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laudate
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How interesting. So if someone decides to pull up another article describing all the deities in your own part of the country, as well as the international connections they have, I guess that would make it alright?  |
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ThiefOfHearts (f)
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The thread is asking people to end an osu problem(if it still wasnt a problem in some places, you wouldnt have threads around with people asking whether they would marry an osu and have majoritry of them say "No") so wetin concern okija or ijebu people with anything?
as for the whole voodoo history, so what? What exactly was everyone else doing before the missionaries and arabs brought Christianity and Islam around? rubbish.
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I-man (m)
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@Laudate  Hey!Cool down down with the angry ramblings.You don't have to respond What was crass about my using the word "odd?" And why the heck, does it offend you so much I did make earlier references to your poor level of comprehension.The remark I refered to as crass was not the one including the "odd" term.It was this remark So if an Igbo woman who has spent most of her life inside (not outside) Alaigbo, says she hasn't seen an 'osu' person before, then she must have either lived a very sheltered life, or must be in some sort of denial, or she might even be 'blithering', to use your own words. Secondly, in what way did I cast aspersions on someone who claims not to know anything about the 'Osu' issue? What derogatory words, or uncouth An aspersion is an unfavorable or damaging remark.To say someone must have "lived a very sheltered life,or is in denial or blithering" is rather unfavourable and damaging,don't you think? All that,simply because the person says she does not know an Osu Finally, so bloody what, if am not Igbo? So it is now a crime on nairaland, for a non-Igbo person to pass a comment on something that happens in Alaigbo? In this context,its crass for a non-Igbo person to describe an Igbo person who says she doesn't know an Osu as either having "lived a very sheltered life ,or in denial,or simply blithering.Silly if an Igbo person said it,even more so if it were a non-Igbo person who never lived in Igboland.It would be the same if I was to cast aspersions,in a thread about a particular cultural practice of a non-Igbo "tribe",on a person from such a tribe who claims not to have witnessed such a practice. |
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babyosisi (f)
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How interesting. So if someone decides to pull up another article describing all the deities in your own part of the country, as well as the international connections they have, I guess that would make it alright? did you miss the one about Yoruba ritualists hunting bodies of dead children? have you heard of head hunters for a dead oba? I answered gbeborun to shut him up with the same news evidence he uses. That should shut up any one who parades any news for the purpose of painting others black.where were you when he made his post? Or you didn't see it? oh we are black already,lol |
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babyosisi (f)
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The thread is asking people to end an osu problem(if it still wasnt a problem in some places, you wouldnt have threads around with people asking whether they would marry an osu and have majoritry of them say "No") so wetin concern okija or ijebu people with anything?
as for the whole voodoo history, so what? What exactly was everyone else doing before the missionaries and arabs brought Christianity and Islam around? rubbish.
lol. like I said earlier,"I merely answered a fool in his folly" stop crying |
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ThiefOfHearts (f)
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Ogboni o, Ikija shrine o, voodoo o
all of those have nothing to do with Osu, infact they can be placed under off topic ramblings
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babyosisi (f)
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@Laudate ;DHey!Cool down down with the angry ramblings.You don't have to respond I did make earlier references to your poor level of comprehension.The remark I refered to as crass was not the one including the "odd" term.It was this remarkAn aspersion is an unfavorable or damaging remark.To say someone must have "lived a very sheltered life,or is in denial or blithering" is rather unfavourable and damaging,don't you think? All that,simply because the person says she does not know an Osu In this context,its crass for a non-Igbo person to describe an Igbo person who says she doesn't know an Osu as either having "lived a very sheltered life ,or in denial,or simply blithering.Silly if an Igbo person said it,even more so if it were a non-Igbo person who never lived in Igboland.It would be the same if I was to cast aspersions,in a thread about a particular cultural practice of a non-Igbo "tribe",on a person from such a tribe who claims not to have witnessed such a practice. Actually,long ago,I saw through that laudate of a girl. She'll do anything to score a cheap point. I have never been deceived. |
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ThiefOfHearts (f)
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who's crying? I'm not the one who's crying about voodoo when the topic is Osu. I re read the thread and gbegborun brought up Okija in response to xytcod's usual garbage. Either way you are all going off topic esp you and your links that have nothing to do with what is being discussed especially when all tribes have traditional religions, unless you want to say your entire family tree was Christian even before the birth/death of Christ. Then again you guys are the same ones who claimed not to have naming ceramonies but "christenings" even before Christianity came to Nigeria. Lmao  |
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babyosisi (f)
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who's crying?
I'm not the one who's crying about voodoo when the topic is Osu. I re read the thread and gbegborun brought up Okija in response to xytcod's usual garbage. Either way you are all going off topic esp you and your links that have nothing to do with what is being discussed especially when all tribes have traditional religions, unless you want to say your entire family tree was Christian even before the birth/death of Christ.
My grandparents were Christians,the ones before them,I knew not. And I detest it when several non Igbos drum this okija nonsense as though we were all privy to this whole set up. Most of us heard of okija the same time you did. but I had heard of Ijebu medicine men since I was tot they even have their own babalawo tunes babalawo mo wa be be tra la la la this girl will kill me today |
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babyosisi (f)
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back to the topic.
The osu thing should be eradicated.
That's if we were in an ideal world.
Prejudice of one form or another will always exist.
It's for us,especially Christians to practice what we preach.
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ThiefOfHearts (f)
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so were my grandparents but I'm not in denial that the ones before them were not Christian and were into traditional "religion" so bringing up voodoo and all that other is pretty pointless
as for babalawo, so? traditionalists are still around, big deal. don't see what the difference between someone going to a babalawo and another going to church to ask "God" to strike their enemies dead. Anyway are you saying they don't exist in IgboLand? If that were true, your men in Onitsha wouldnt make 90% of their movies based on it esp when they claim that the movies are based on real life happenings in Nigeria. abi no be so?
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ThiefOfHearts (f)
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back to the topic.
The osu thing should be eradicated.
That's if we were in an ideal world.
Prejudice of one form or another will always exist.
It's for us,especially Christians to practice what we preach.
It'D be nice if you'D truthfully answer me if I were to ask you whether you'D allow your brothers to marry someone who turns out to have osu roots. |
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babyosisi (f)
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As for the laws that you cited, since its' promulagation no one has been prosecuted under this law. Kindly do some research on this law and its' aftermath.
I am not Igbo, so this practice does not affect me in one way or the other. But saying that I haven't seen it, just because some folks haven't had an encounter with an 'osu', would be like trying to deny that racism exists in parts of the Western world, just because I have not been a direct victim.
Anyone wishing to attack me for making this observation can have the floor. It is your call. Laudate,I was one of the people that loved your post initially until it became clear that your bail of okirika was third class okirika. An unbiased mind would applaud the fact that laws had been entrenched in Igboland that would prosecute any one who discriminated against another or denied them the same space we all share but instead you choose to ask a baseless question similar to my asking you why we still have a police force in Nigeria or why people still put faucets in homes built in Iyana Ipaja when we all know the "water works" doesn't work water! Is there a single person that has denied the existence of this osu caste system? name the person! What all Igbos,at least most have consistently ststed is that the act is grossly reduced from what it used to be in the time of our forefathers. But as usual,you must go on and on like a woman on PMS |
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babyosisi (f)
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It'D be nice if you'D truthfully answer me if I were to ask you whether you'D allow your brothers to marry someone who turns out to have osu roots.
It may suprise you that that topic never came up in my marriage,my siblings or even my parents marriage. That is the point many Igbos on this forum have been shouting themselves hoarse to say.
It is not a topic that consumes our conversation.I dare say that I have never discussed Osu as much as I have on this forum. I don't even sincerely remember any conversations centered around this till now. |
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babyosisi (f)
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If that were true, your men in Onitsha wouldnt make 90% of their movies based on it esp when they claim that the movies are based on real life happenings in Nigeria. abi no be so? Since Igbo women walk around the neighborhood on bare feet,with wrappers and bare shoulders ,and we all have white chalks designing our faces as you see on those same movies,you must be correct |
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Arnold1 (m)
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My grandparents were Christians,the ones before them,I knew not. And I detest it when several non Igbos drum this okija nonsense as though we were all privy to this whole set up.Most of us heard of okija the same time you did. but I had heard of Ijebu medicine men since I was tot they even have their own babalawo tunes babalawo mo wa be be tra la la la Okija has been around for a very long time until it was finally made public, so you are talking nonsense. Atleast yorubas have never been cannibals like you igbo people are. |
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babyosisi (f)
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Okija has been around for a very long time until it was finally made public, so you are talking nonsense.
Atleast yorubas have never been cannibals like you igbo people are.
I am tempted to call you names,I'll leave you to choose them yourself. I wonder why we haven't eaten you yet,ewu Ijebuode |
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Arnold1 (m)
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I am tempted to call you names,I'll leave you to chose them yourself.
I wonder why we haven't eaten you yet,ewu Ijebuode
Any bunch of people that eat humans are despicable. igbos uurrgh, yuck. |
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ThiefOfHearts (f)
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Arnold, please don't start with your bullcrap here. what's with you people anyway? This thread about osu, gerraway with your garbage.
as for people going barefoot, I can say that happens in the village, why not? It happens in most villages and what's wrong with wrappers and bare shoulders, are you saying that doesnt happen in the villages in Nigeria
and no one said that osu is rampant with you but like I said judging from the last thread where people said they would never marry or have anything with an Osu even in this day and age, i'D say the stigma still has it's effects.
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laudate
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Okija has been around for a very long time until it was finally made public, so you are talking nonsense.
Atleast yorubas have never been cannibals like you igbo people are.
Any bunch of people that eat humans are despicable. igbos uurrgh, yuck.
Arnold1, please turn right round. The exit door is behind you. Take it. If you have nothing decent, sensible or logical, to contribute to this debate, please kindly go and find a thread that is more suitable to your juvenile, debauched tastes. |
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babyosisi (f)
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Arnold, please don't start with your bullcrap here. what's with you people anyway? This thread about osu, gerraway with your garbage.
as for people going barefoot, I can say that happens in the village, why not? It happens in most villages and what's wrong with wrappers and bare shoulders, are you saying that doesnt happen in the villages in Nigeria
and no one said that osu is rampant with you but like I said judging from the last thread where people said they would never marry or have anything with an Osu even in this day and age, i'D say the stigma still has it's effects.
with chalks on their face snad kneeling to give food to their husbands? movies are not real life. rituals are in movies because you enjoy seeing them so they'll give you what you desire. They are business men not journalists. Like I said earlier,prejudice will never be phased out of life,I know Igbos that swore their children will not marry other tribes even over their dead bodies,that is prejudice,the osu thing is no different,it is someone claiming to be a higher human than another.That's pure stupidity. Our forefathers came up with things that we had no control over,our people today have made great strides in the direction of correcting this great ill and perhaps someday it will no longer be an issue. I do not know any friends or family members that did not marry their intended because they were found out to be osus,I've heard the same stories you have. soon someone will come on and call me a liar,frankly anyone is free to believe whatever they choose. |
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Arnold1 (m)
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Laudate and thiefofhearts
The person you need to address is babyosisi, who is running her mouth writing jagons like this
but I had heard of Ijebu medicine men since I was tot Grin
they even have their own babalawo tunes Grin
babalawo mo wa be be Cheesy
tra la la la
stop asking me to stop, if she wants to carry on talking trash then she'll hear trash. period.
Atleast she is not denying or refuting it, igbos have a history of eating humans, that's a well known fact.
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ThiefOfHearts (f)
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You are just making things worse, Arnold. I'm Yoruba and most of the crap said by most people on here are offensive but I don't bother saying crap about their own tribe, how would that solve anything? It's called maturity. Besides I'm the one who deals with osisi when she gets in her crazy mood. I work alone!  |
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laudate
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Laudate,I was one of the people that loved your post initially until it became clear that your bail of okirika was third class okirika.
An unbiased mind would applaud the fact that laws had been entrenched in Igboland that would prosecute any one who discriminated against another or denied them the same space we all share but instead you choose to ask a baseless question similar to my asking you why we still have a police force in Nigeria or why people still put faucets in homes built in Iyana Ipaja when we all know the "water works" doesn't work water!
Is there a single person that has denied the existence of this osu caste system?
name the person!
What all Igbos,at least most have consistently ststed is that the act is grossly reduced from what it used to be in the time of our forefathers.
But as usual,you must go on and on like a woman on PMS
Pray tell, what was 'baseless' about the question? The fact that the government promulgated a law that was never enforced? The fact that as old as the law is, no single person has been prosecuted over it? Do you think that mere legislation would put an end to a cultural practice, if that law is not enforced to serve as a deterrent? Do you realise we have so many 'dead-letter' laws in Nigeria? One thing is clear from the trend of all the responses here, though. The whole 'Osu' thingy, seems to be confined to certain districts. It is also location-specific. Depending on what part of Igbo land you reside in, or that you are from, you may not have had a direct encounter with the practice, unless it actually crosses your doorstep. Finally, I will choose to ignore that offensive remark about PMS. But it won't stop me from pointing out that if that law was effective, we wouldn't even be having this conversation. This thread wouldn't even have arisen!. |
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Arnold1 (m)
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I am not making anything worse thiefofhearts. I am not going to sit here and let that idiot talk rubbish about yorubas.
When she stops, I will stop.
Again, igbos are well known for eating human beings. Abi I dey lie ?
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babyosisi (f)
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Laudate and thiefofhearts
The person you need to address is babyosisi, who is running her mouth writing jagons like this
but I had heard of Ijebu medicine men since I was tot Grin
they even have their own babalawo tunes Grin
babalawo mo wa be be Cheesy
tra la la la
stop asking me to stop, if she wants to carry on talking trash then she'll hear trash. period.
You are a fool. Do you think we did not hear the same prejudices you heard of Igbos growing up. I heard that idol worship was the Yoruba mans stock in trade,they behead people like no mans business and eat human flesh. I travelled to Ife sometime ago and even the natives warned us to keep away from certain areas. I have a distant relative that vanished in Yorubaland and have never been seen to date. But unlike you,I grew up to think for myself and know that no group of humans are all together evil or all together good. The same evils prevalent in soceity are everywhere. I am an Igbo woman but there are certain Igbo characters I'll avoid as a plague. I give you the benefit of doubt. You may be part of the ignorant minority that think Nigeria is made up of Yorubas and Igbos. Move around and intermingle,it may do you a world of good. if we don't eat you by then |
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laudate
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I am not making anything worse thiefofhearts. I am not going to sit here and let that idiot talk rubbish about yorubas.
When she stops, I will stop.
Quit talking like a disgruntled element. What makes you think that, by talking rubbish about the Igbo, you have 'evened' the score? You are merely getting more irritating, and showing everyone you have nothing upstairs. |
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Arnold1 (m)
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Say all you want laudate, you are just wasting your time.
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babyosisi (f)
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Pray tell, what was 'baseless' about the question? The fact that the government promulgated a law that was never enforced? The fact that as old as the law is, no single person has been prosecuted over it? Do you think that mere legislation would put an end to a cultural practice, if that law is not enforced to serve as a deterrent? Do you realise we have so many 'dead-letter' laws in Nigeria?
One thing is clear from the trend of all the responses here, though. The whole 'Osu' thingy, seems to be confined to certain districts. It is also location-specific. Depending on what part of Igbo land you reside in, or that you are from, you may not have had a direct encounter with the practice, unless it actually crosses your horizon.
Finally, I will choose to ignore that offensive remark about PMS. But it won't stop me from pointing out that if that law was effective, we wouldn't even be having this conversation. This thread wouldn't even have arisen!.
In the old days,I heard osus could not go to the market places and people burnt down their houses. Is that happening now? If you burn down someone's house you are prosecuted. Do you want people to be arrested and sent to jail for failing to marry someone? You really do amuse me There are threads on people not marrying short men or overweight people,can anyone stop that by a law. It is obvious what your agendum is on these threads. |
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ThiefOfHearts (f)
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Bible speaks against the word "fool" in Matthew, osisi |
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Arnold1 (m)
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What kind of people eats their own kind ? For people that practiced cannibalism sometime in their history, they shouldn't even be talking trash about other tribes. igbos yuck
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ThiefOfHearts (f)
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if we don't eat you by then
Lmao. and not allowing someone to get married is just as bad as not going to the market.  |
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