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@babs787,
Quote from: babs787 on Today at 06:08:22 PM
Can you please serve me the other meanings?
Muslim translators in their commentaries point to the meaning of Jihad as including armed/military warfare; not just as retaliation - but just so that Islam may be established through those armed warfare. Besides, the commentators actually believe that this idea of Jihad is binding upon ALL Muslims; so that even those Muslims who are opposed to such an idea are considered hypocrites.
Okay, we shall read on for verification
My persuasions above are taken from the footnote on The Noble Qur'an, Sura 2:190 --
"Jihad is holy fighting in Allah's Cause with full force of numbers and weaponry.
It is given the utmost importance in Islam and is one of its pillars.
By Jihad Islam is established, Allah's Word is made superior (which means only Allah
has the right to be worshiped), and Islam is propagated.
By abandoning Jihad Islam is
destroyed and Muslims fall into an inferior position;
their honor is lost, their lands are stolen, their rule and authority vanish.
Jihad is an obligatory duty in Islam on every Muslim. He who tries to escape from this duty,
or does not fulfill this duty, dies as a hypocrite."
Thanks brother. I have seen it too. Jihad there did not include only taking up arms for defence but also any good deeds in the cause of Allah. Now go to the second paragraph and without being biased, it is clearly understood that Jihad mentioned there is for self defence when a muslim land is usurped, muslim is allowed to fight the opperessed.
Now for better understanding, I will provide you some verses on the meaning of jihad
Jihad by preaching word of AllahQuran 25 v 52: So obey not the disbelievers but strive against them (by preaching) with utmost endeavors with it (the Quran)
Quran 22 v 78: And strive hard in Allah's cause as you ought to strive (with sincerity and with all you efforts that his name should be superior). He has chosen you (to convey his message of Islamic monotheism to mankind by inviting them to His religion of Islam) and Has not laid upon you a religion of any hardship.
The above verse is saying that Jihad is performed through preaching ALLAH's word.
Quran 8 v 72: Verily, those who believed and emigrated and strove and fought with their property and their lives in the cause of Allah as well as those who gave ( them) assylum and help, these are (all) allies to one another and as to those who believe but did not emigrate (to you o Muhammed) you owe no duty of protection to them until they emigrate but if they seek your help in religion, it is your duty to help them except against a people with whom you have a treaty of mutual alliance and Allah is the All seer of what you do.
I can go on but will stop there.
Quote from: babs787 on Today at 06:08:22 PM
You make me laugh with this your non-hostility. Did Muhammed kill christians during his time and in all honesty, can you tell me why muslims fought during his time and when you are through with that, other issues will come in from your bible.
Can I answer your question with these, so that we can focus on what is at stake here: why do Muslims today often refer to the West as "Christian" with such hate? And what did Muhammad actually mean in his several pronouncements against the Jews? Why does Islam seek to kill a Muslim convert to Christianity or any other religion according to its teachings?
why do Muslims today often refer to the West as "Christian" with such hate
Can you back it up with verses from the Quran/Hadith
And what did Muhammad actually mean in his several pronouncements against the Jews?
Brother, have you found out the reason behind hatred against Islam by the Jews?
Why does Islam seek to kill a Muslim convert to Christianity or any other religion according to its teachings?
Let me have the verses please
Quote from: babs787 on Today at 06:08:22 PM
Let us have the verses please and the reason behind the verses. When you finish serving me, I will take you to some verses in the bible where Jesus ordered the killing of everything that breathes including kids and animals and we will look into why some violent acts in the bible.
I hope you'll be gentlemanly about this and not have to copy and paste repeatedly the same verses which have already been addressed in another thread:
http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-53042.96.html#msg1196207I will surely respond to the link you supplied.