What Seek Ye?(the Grail Message-vol 1)

that should be a misinterpretation

the intellect is designed to comprehend earthly matters while the intuition helps us comprehend spiritual matters

the intellect operates in the frontal brain while the intuition operates in the hind brain

the ideal is for the intuition to receive and pass on to the intellect(since the core of man is spirit), rather man has disregarded the intuition and relies completely on the intellect for everything and that is why it has become almost impossible to understand some spiritual matters

                                                                 *these are my opinions*

THE INTELLECT IS PHYSICAL AND IS BOUND TO THE EARTH, THE INTUITION IS SPIRITUAL AND PART OF MAN(SPIRIT).

THE INTUITION IS ALWAYS ACURATAE (THAT LITTLE VOICE that TELLS You NOT TO TRAVEL THIS MORNING)

THE INTELLECT IS LIMITED(GIVES You ALL THE REASON You should TRAVEL)

AT THE END OF THE DAY, You TRAVEL AND HAVE AN ACCIDENT!!!!!!!!!


                                                       *JUST MY INTERPRETATION OF IT*

GRAP A COPY OF THE MESSAGE AND UNDERSTAND BETTER OK



AM NOT A GRAIL MESSENGER, AM NOT WORTHY TO BE CALLED that. I THINK THATS A WRONG CHOICE OF TERM. ITS PREFERABLY ADHERENTS OF THE GRAIL MESSAGE OR CROSSBEARERS OK

@otuwe,

You really didn't have to shout - that's a put off rather than enlightenment. My question was simple enough, and if I didn't want to discuss, I would have campaigned as you did that this thread should be CLOSED instead of asking the opposite:

Anyhow, the reason why I was asking was not to seek your opinion or advice. That's why I was asking the adherents of the Grail message (apologies earlier for assuming the term "Grail messengers" - a kind friend cautioned it means something entirely different: http://www.witchvox.com/va/dt_va.html?a=usca&c=words&id=11653 )

The contexts in which the various terms have been used have not really made any sense to me, and that was what informed my questions. Let me offer a few:

1. Earlier, onyex has offered a few inputs that did not make out clearly what she was trying to offer readers.

2. Others who tried to offer explanations seemed not to be distinct as well; for everyone was just talking about this or that part of the brain - as if man was a mass of pus in a body.

3. There are other contexts in which people who are seekers into spirituality use the terms:

    (a) One source connects the intuition with emotion and sees it as:
    "the most subtle result of secondary emotion, and a power that frontal lobe patients lack"
               http://www.brainconnection.com/topics/?main=fa/emotional-brain6

    (b) the above is not so different from another source that connects the intuition to emotion in a
    religious sense: "Allow your body, emotions, a.k.a intuition to speak to you. Surrender to
    God, the Creator, Source, Existence, Love and transform the moment for the glory of Creation"
    (emphasis mine) http://www.onemancan.ca/articles/intuition

You can see that the way intuition is used in (b) above is that, whie connecting it to the emotion, it is not the same as the Creator, Source, Existence, etc. However, that is quite another thing from yet another source:

     (c) "That quality in an animal which directs its action and tells it where to go to find food and
      shelter, we call instinct. It is, really, Omniscience in the animal. The same quality, more highly
      developed, makes its appearance in man; and is what we call intuition.

      Intuition is God in man, revealing to him the Realities of Being; and just as instinct guides the
      animal, so would intuition guide man, if he would allow it to operate through him."
       (The Science of Mind, by Ernest Shurtleff Holmes, p. 212-213)

What brought about this enquiry is because this kind of spirituality tends make itself appear 'Christian' - as in the case of Ernest Shurtleff who quotes so many verses from the Bible for his argument while at the same time not really discussing Christianity. In just about the same way, I hear adherents of the Grail Message who use similar Christian terms (crossbearer, etc); and a few that I've met personally would not clearly state who they really are.

Anyway, since this discussion is not getting anywhere with all the ideas and opinions floating around, I'll just let you guys carry on.

Enjoy.

its really nice meeting a fello crossbearer here again.
Onyex is still a seeker,i guess thats why she's eager to let people know the good things happening to her now
Otuwe is a crossbearer also wonder why she's calling on seun to close this thread,i guess she's not proud to be a crossbearer, i guess

@otuwe,  thanks for your calm response. Apologies where I misread you. Blessings. 

it will be my utmost pleasure in meeting you, well i'm always on GRAILLAND every sundays, i don't know about otuwe and onyex, well feel free to call me whenever you're on GRAILLAND on this number 08055458324.
Looking forward to meeting you.

@ricadelide,


Precisely what I was going to ask. I didn't want to be forward by preempting the discussion in calling attention to the seeming contradiction.

Lol @ricadelide,

I would hope so as well. The few I happen to have met left me a bit confused as to what they're about; and like stimulus hinted, they're not very generous with information as to who exactly they are.

I asked one of my friend's sister if the Grail Message was a syncretism of many other religions. Although she didn't oblige a clear answer, I'D not forget the look she gave me.

Anyways, I'm looking forward to the discussion - as I hope that those who have expressed themselves as crossbearers will help progress the thread.

Cheers.

*How are you doing anyway? I trust you're doing good?

@ricadelide,pilgrim: The HOLY GRAIL and its teachings are not for low class people like you both, you will never undersdtand it no matter what your are told here in the forum, unless you do away with all your mental speculations and graps the Truth, if not the Grail Message will remain a Book with seven seals to you.

And may I remain you that it is not for the less Intelligent.

The back brain is also physical and spiritual as well.The back-brain is the seat of the spirit,it is through it the spirit make itself known in the gross material world.
The back-brain also know as the cerebellum is connected to what is known as the solar plexus,and it's through this solar plexus the spirit make itself known in pictoral forms which is the being transferred to the back brain only in pictures.Then the frontal brain which is in charge of controlling the physical body, the arms, the legs, the eyes, etc then now translate the pictures it can see from the back-brain into physical deeds.
But the bridge that will allow the normal process to happen has been cut short due to negligence on the human part.
Due to the over-cultivation of the human intellect(i.e focusing only on material things) it's has now over-developed more than the back-brain, and anything that happens spiritually must have a physical manifestation, and that results to the great differences in their sizes.
But still yet the spirit still make impression but the intellect can't undertstand it.
And that is no matter the help being sent from above, majority of human species will never understand the messages.and thats the root of all evil.
Except we human spirits start to learn anew,i.e turning our gaze away from the earthly matters and start to look above.Any spiritual things will still rermain like the book with seven seals.
And thst's simply what the GRAIL MESSAGE is all about, it's directed at the human spirits who is willing to drop all that he's learn and accept a new way of thinking.

"With my Message I now open the Book of Creation for you! The Message clearly shows you the Language of God in Creation, which you must learn to understand so that you can make it completely your own." words of ABD-RU-SHIN author of the GRAIL MESSAGE

@otuwe,


Already disregarded hinduism's post.



However, @enitan2002, I don't think that your interpretations have made issues any clearer. Let's simply go back and start off by asking about the parts and functions of the brain - and then from there link them to what you're trying t explain. For now, I would say that back-brain/hindbrain is not the seat of the spirit.

Please check out the parts and functions of the brain and let's discuss further.

Cheers.

@enitan2002,


I've always been open to hear what you have to say - and that's why I have been calling for clarification. The one simple request I offered was that we reason together and agree on what we all know are the functions of the brain. If there's something we all are missing, then the 'crossbearers' are responsible to clarifying such issues to us, rather than assuming that enquirers are not ready to accept truth.


For the most part, what we have been reading from the contributions of 'crossbearers' appear distorted. That is why we have been appealing that we all reason together and clearly understand what you call "truth".

Cheers.

The one thing we should understand is simply this: the GRAIL MESSAGE - as have thus far been presented - does not teach "truth" as concerning the parts and functons of the brain.

Cheers enitan2002. 

@enitan2002,

We're here to discuss. I believe that if someone has a message worth hearing publicly, that message should be open to discussion so that we all don't go away saying different things. The different interpretations among the 'crossbearers' are simple manifestations of this one fact - that they are all saying different things and no one is gaining anything at all.

That is why I offered us to come to terms with what the whole basic issue has been about. That should not be grounds to sign people off and close the door of discussion - it should rather encourage informed inputs.

we crossbearers have been saying same thing, its just that people in pseudo-knowledge thinking, thinks we're sayin different things all together.Truth can never be discuused in order to reach an agreement.
IT is and will never be what people are expecting it to be. ok