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Kuns
Re: Are Catholics Really Christians?
« #224 on: January 25, 2008, 08:35 PM »



Even Jesus was not called a christians.

Matthew 2: 23 "23: And he came and dwelt in a city called Nazareth: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophets, He shall be called a Nazarene."

It is the disciples of Paul the liar that were called Christians.

Acts 11: 26 "And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch."

Actually you will not find the word christian in the old testament. And it is used only three times in the new testament by Paul the liar.

karlie4nia (m)
Re: Are Catholics Really Christians?
« #225 on: January 28, 2008, 05:54 PM »

QUESTION: ARE CATHOLICS REALLY CHRISTIANS?

ANSWER: IF THIS WAS ACTUALLY ANOTHER  HONEST QUESTION OUT OF IGNORANCE, THEN SURE WITHOUT GOING INTO ANY FUNDAMENTALS, THEY CERTAINLY FROM TIME IMMEMORIAL ARE CHRISTIANS. THEY BELIEVE IN CHRIST AS THE ONLY WAY TO GOD THE FATHER AND ETERNAL LIFE. PLEASE LETS ENDEAVOR TO MAKE A LITTLE RESEARCH BEFORE STARTING SUCH TOPIC. I FIND THEM RATHER UNBECOMING. EVER HEARD OF THE APOSTLES CREED(PRAYER OF SALVATION)
Carlosein (m)
Re: Are Catholics Really Christians?
« #226 on: January 28, 2008, 06:54 PM »

Quote from: @tomX on January 24, 2008, 03:09 PM
Mexico. . . hmmm.
Back here in Nigeria we have pentecostal pastors who burn church members with petrol, who sleep with their female members at random, who perpetuate all kinds of fraud, who consult occultic shrine to get charms to boost their church memberships etc.
Once upon a time it was a rave for protestant pastors in Nigeria to preach messages like:
"I used to be second in command to the devil before I got born again". I must have heard close to a hundred different pastors preach that message. How many second in commands did the devil have to pick from Nigeria, especialy since they keep stabbing him in the back (abi na Nigeria evil pass?).
No offense to pentecostals or fellow Nigerians.

 Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
Gamine (f)
Re: Are Catholics Really Christians?
« #227 on: January 28, 2008, 07:08 PM »

If Catholics follow Christ they will be Christians

But since they choose to follow, Mary, Saints and the Pope

they are now Popetians, e.t.c not Christians! Smiley
karlie4nia (m)
Re: Are Catholics Really Christians?
« #228 on: January 28, 2008, 08:00 PM »

@ GAMINE

ABEG, TRY DEY A LITTLE MORE OBJECTIVE IN YOUR ARGUMENT. WHAT D HECK DO YOU KNOW ABOUT US(CATHOLICS)  SCRIBBLING ALL THAT.
Gamine (f)
Re: Are Catholics Really Christians?
« #229 on: January 28, 2008, 08:38 PM »

Mr MAn

i was Catholic

And i am being objective!!!

If you follow Christ, you are Christian!
imhotep
Re: Are Catholics Really Christians?
« #230 on: January 28, 2008, 08:45 PM »

Quote from: Gamine on January 28, 2008, 07:08 PM
If Catholics follow Christ they will be Christians

But since they choose to follow, Mary, Saints and the Pope

they are now Popetians, e.t.c not Christians! Smiley





If the Pope follows Christ, then Catholics must be christians. Not so?
Gamine (f)
Re: Are Catholics Really Christians?
« #231 on: January 28, 2008, 08:56 PM »

Christian as you would know is not about follow follow

There is only One we look unto

And thats God, Christ

Because my Dad is Christian(follows Christ)
And i follow him dose not qualify me for redemption

Christianity is a PERSONAL Race

if d pope is following Christ and they are following pope
Na inside pit, them go end.
Blind no fit lead Blind Smiley
imhotep
Re: Are Catholics Really Christians?
« #232 on: January 28, 2008, 09:07 PM »

Quote from: Gamine on January 28, 2008, 08:56 PM
Christian as you would know is not about follow follow

There is only One we look unto

And thats God, Christ

Because my Dad is Christian(follows Christ)
And i follow him dose not qualify me for redemption

Christianity is a PERSONAL Race

if d pope is following Christ and they are following pope
Na inside pit, them go end.
Blind no fit lead Blind Smiley

What do u think Jesus meant when he said:

"I do not ask for these only, but also for those who will believe in me through their word, that they may all be one, just as you, Father, are in me, and I in you, that they also may be in us, so that the world may believe that you have sent me" John 17:20-21

Do you think the divisions in the Church are in line with Jesus' prayer?

Division in the Church makes Christianity look like cajolery,
Gamine (f)
Re: Are Catholics Really Christians?
« #233 on: January 28, 2008, 09:18 PM »

Divisions?

What do you term a Division?

Any religion/sect/any name you could call it

that dosnt preach Jesus As Christ/Savior, the Spiritual Birth and as the only way to the Father is

not even christian to begin with.

It is false!

imhotep
Re: Are Catholics Really Christians?
« #234 on: January 28, 2008, 09:24 PM »

What we have are groups of christians going for each others throat.

The message of christ is smothered in the heat of argument and bickering.

We have many churches, but little virtue to show for it.

Non-christians will see us as unserious and will be reluctant to convert.

Christ knows the meaning and value of unity. That why he asked His Father for it
karlie4nia (m)
Re: Are Catholics Really Christians?
« #235 on: January 29, 2008, 10:35 AM »

BIA MRS GIRL@ GAMINE

YOU WERE  CATHOLIC, I NOW SEE WHY YOUR VIEW ARE JAUNDICED. IT DOSENT MATTER THOUGH THAT You WERE ONCE CATHOLIC AS I SEE YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE ANY  FACT TO BACK UP YOUR ARGUMENT AND ITS OF NO ESSENCE RESPONDING TO YOUR BLIND ARGUMENT. I WONDER WHAT KIND OF CATHOLIC You WERE ANYWAY! LETS NOT UNDERMINE THE IMPORTANCE OF A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF RESEARCH BEFORE SCRIBBLING NOTHING OR BETTER STILL WE KEEP QUIET TILL WE COME UP WITH ENOUGH FACTS FOR OUR ARGUMENT.
Ganjaseed
Re: Are Catholics Really Christians?
« #236 on: January 29, 2008, 03:19 PM »

What a silly argument !!!

Catholics are not Christians, they do not look like Christ nor behave like him.
Reflect your mind back to how Catholicism started, the blood they shed trying to hide the truth of free salvation from the whole world, Is that how Jesus behaved himself when he brought the truth and sacrifice himself and seal it with his blood ?

Any message or practise contrary to what Jesus stands for and taught is Anti Christ. The RCC fits this contrary description of an anti Christ.
texazzpete (m)
Re: Are Catholics Really Christians?
« #237 on: January 29, 2008, 04:33 PM »

@Ganjaseed, Gamine
Kindly explain how the teachings of the Roman catholic Church are contrary to Christ's teachings.

gamine, please do well to show how catholics follow the pope and not jesus.

Funny how most people that claim they left the catholic church for pentecostal churches know little about the church they claim to leave from.

The cardinal issue is how people will beleive anything their pastors tell 'em. In my 100L in uni one deeper life came out accusing catholics of worshipping Nimrod.
in my 16 years (at that time) of being a catholic i had never heard of anyone called Nimrod. yet this guy walked away unconvinced.
Go figure

Quote from: princezza on January 24, 2008, 02:52 AM
Yes christianity evolved from catholics but HECK NO they are not alike read our bible and read theres take a close look do some research there are so many differnces espically between mexicans I noe because I am a mexican christain and all my friends are catholics mexicans their parents get drunk party like there iz no 2morro and do so many thigns that are bible is against Imean come on no offense to catholics really or mexicans.

You really have to be the most stupid person i've come across in 2008.
Afterall, if we all believe that all mexicans are greaseball illegal immigrants, drug smugglers and louts (based on portayal on TV) where does that leave you?
you, stranger, are an idiot.
karlie4nia (m)
Re: Are Catholics Really Christians?
« #238 on: January 29, 2008, 04:38 PM »

OK, GANJA SEED@

another ignoramus in the house. abi, make una go find as una go improve una relationship with God almighty, Jesus Christ and the Holy spirit and with your fellow neighbors than to come here with una blind yarns about who be xtian and who no be. i wonder what good your doing yourself or somebody out there.abegi

karlie4nia (m)
Re: Are Catholics Really Christians?
« #239 on: January 29, 2008, 04:50 PM »

@texazzpete

I GAT YOUR BACK BROTHER. I REALLY CANT IMAGINE HOW CERTAIN PEOPLE REASON
Gamine (f)
Re: Are Catholics Really Christians?
« #240 on: January 29, 2008, 05:30 PM »

Texazzpete

Grin Grin Grin Grin

Just Follow Jesus ok

i think Everyone will be ok
chikibaybi (f)
Re: Are Catholics Really Christians?
« #241 on: January 31, 2008, 09:56 PM »

If you guys are not catholics and don't understand what it is to be one, please just ask reasonable questions or just shut up. Don't condemn what you don't know about lest you commit sin out of ignorance caused by your silliness.
raffite
Re: Are Catholics Really Christians?
« #242 on: March 28, 2008, 05:11 PM »

Quote
,  Although, I'm not a Christian (and I will never be one; I was born a Great One and I'll die a Great One -- insha God),

That disqualifies you to contribute here!
prosper234 (m)
Re: Are Catholics Really Christians?
« #243 on: March 30, 2008, 03:46 PM »

Yes Catholics Are Christians
please all christians should void themselves of every critics i repeat all christians should void themselves of all critics againts pastor, churches etc, becareful so your future will not experience a heavy burden by you speaking against spirited and hardworking pastors, reverends and churches beware

Pastor Prosper
~Lady~ (f)
Re: Are Catholics Really Christians?
« #244 on: April 01, 2008, 05:45 AM »

Ok so I came to this topic really late and I tried really hard to avoid it, but reading through, I just have a few things I observed and would like to comment on.

I really want to comment on the issue of "MARY MOTHER OF GOD"

The stance of the Protestants is that never was she called "MOTHER OF GOD" this is infact true.
But let's also keep in mind that never did Jesus call himself GOD. before u crucify me please finish reading
He was always the SON OF MAN. But he did say that he and the father are one. So from that we take it that he is also GOD.
It is in this same manner that Catholics say that Mary is the Mother of God. Elisabeth called her "MOTHER OF MY LORD" the "LORD" she's referring to is JESUS. If Jesus is LORD, and by faith he is God, that would make Mary the Mother of God. I understand the syllogism thing that someone points on earlier, but if u would disqualify the words spoken of Mary, then you must disqualify the words spoken of Jesus/by Jesus.
 
Um those who think they know about persecution of Christians should really do their research on it and come back and tell me which christians were persecuted. Last I checked the Catholics were persecuted by other christians or am I wrong?
   
 
 
 
 
~Lady~ (f)
Re: Are Catholics Really Christians?
« #245 on: April 01, 2008, 06:36 AM »

Quote
Mother Theresa of Calacuta made headlines because of her Christian CHARITY among the Hindus than a Catholic Nun

Um Mother Theresa of Calcuta was a CATHOLIC NUN. Her missionary of charity is made up of catholic nuns.
ow11 (m)
Re: Are Catholics Really Christians?
« #246 on: April 01, 2008, 12:55 PM »

Catholics aren't christiansonly members of profit driven churches are!! Lips sealed
Pastor AIO
Re: Are Catholics Really Christians?
« #247 on: April 02, 2008, 05:09 AM »

Please I would like to make a little contribution to the 'debate'.  I am writing this peacefully, je je-ly, and respectfully to all parties.  I have found that argument and strife will always exists amongst doctrinal religionist for a very simple reason.  No two human beings can think the same thing about the same topic/doctrine.  To the extent that we are all individuals then our concepts and beliefs will reflect this individuality. 
Hence as soon as christianity gets reduced to a doctrinal matter it becomes a cat and dog fight.  What a lot of new age pentecostalists do not realise is that many of the points that they accept as being christian were argued over by the Catholic and Orthodox churches of the first millenium to the present day. The very divinity of Jesus christ was argued over for many decades before it was decided that yes indeed he was divine, and not only divine but one and the same as God, the father. Every time the church agreed on one doctrine it would then hound those that didn't believe it as heretics.  Many times over the course of it's history various christians kept finding themselves being safe one minute and then excluded as heretics the next only to be reinstated as orthodox yet again.  Being Christian is not an intellectual exercise, but rather it is living life with power and authority through grace.

I would highly recommend that everyone spends some time studying the history of the Church.  Especially the first 500 years from the time of Paul to the time that Rome fell to the barbarians. 
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