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justkunmi (m)
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haba, she talk say no be rape. . . and una dey try force rape ontop am u want her to start feelin guilty for what happened how many years ago. . too late, too bad there was no Nairaland when she was 11. 
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D-reloaded (f)
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haba, she talk say no be rape. . .
When a girl tells a guy to stop and he continues then it's rape. The fact that she's in denial about that doesnt change the fact that it is what it is. I'm just hopeing that when she has kids she doesnt have them believe that saying "sorry" after such a thing is fine. I'm afraid of the mentality of some of you people. seriously.
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spoilt (f)
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haba, she talk say no be rape. . . and una dey try force rape ontop am u want her to start feelin guilty for what happened how many years ago. . too late, too bad there was no Nairaland when she was 11.  not trying to make her guilty. Just to be careful when he's around her future kids with his sweetness. Just so they don't have to recount this kind of tale to her and tell her its not rape too.  over here he would have been on the national registered sex offenders list one time! 
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I-man (m)
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not trying to make her guilty. Just to be careful when he's around her future kids with his sweetness. Just so they don't have to recount this kind of tale to her and tell her its not rape too.  over here he would have been on the national registered sex offenders list one time! 
If the victim doesn't consider her experience as one of rape,then there is barely a leg to stand on in claiming rape. From the facts,it doesn't sound like rape to me.
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spoilt (f)
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i believe she said she was 11. are you kidding me mister! until you turn 18 you are off limits to pervs. You wait till some horny toad has sex with your ten or eleven year old and she squeaks and insists that it was consensual . Till then, just spare me!
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deor03 (m)
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Go to Oprah!!!!! Go to Oprah!!!!!Go to Oprah!!!!!Go to Oprah!!!!!
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toyinrayo (f)
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Go to Oprah!!!!! Go to Oprah!!!!!Go to Oprah!!!!!Go to Oprah!!!!!
Oprah will proper say it's because he's a scammer 
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spoilt (f)
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@ debosky so she just french kissed you and let you get away lightly. please complete the story! 
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debosky (m)
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well It was in the boys quarters behind the houseI can't remember what happened after (at 8/9 I probably didn't know what an erection was sef) oh woe is me 
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I-man (m)
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i believe she said she was 11. are you kidding me mister! until you turn 18 you are off limits to pervs. You wait till some horny toad has sex with your ten or eleven year old and she squeaks and insists that it was consensual . Till then, just spare me! And the person she had sex with was a granny?  The boy she had sex with was bloody 15!! If every young kid around that age range who had sex where put into the sex offender's register,half the population will end up on there. The lady in question is writing this,not as an 11 year old,but as a grown up(I believe she is 21 from her profile)It will be the height of condescension to say that at her age,she can't tell the difference between consensual sex and rape when she was the very person at the centre of the said act.
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spoilt (f)
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and do you not know that it is possible for a 15 year old boy to rape a girl? Juvenile halls are full of them so its not like he walks away scott free. so what if he's 15?  A lot of underaged girls insist they were willing participants. A child knows no better. A girl that young should not be messed with. End of discussion!!!
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ikamefa (f)
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well It was in the boys quarters behind the house. . .I can't remember what happened after (at 8/9 I probably didn't know what an erection was sef) oh woe is me   "  "
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I-man (m)
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and do you not know that it is possible for a 15 year old boy to rape a girl?
In the first place,the facts don't support rape.I raised her partner's age to put things into perspective. How do the facts support rape?That is the simple question.You have gone from,"she was only 11" to "many 15 year old have been charged for rape"(actually,few kids,compared to the proportion who are sexually active,are hurled in for rape) Once again,you have gone down the route of addressing the lady as an "underaged girl".Unless you are referring to her mental capacity,she is actually 21 now and is speaking from her present perspective.You seem to think that her opinion of her actions are irrelevant compared to yours.
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D-reloaded (f)
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4Play, shut up please
What did you read and what did we read?
Look up the definition of rape and tell me how it's any different from "I tried to stop him and get up but he pushed me back down"
If it were consensual why did she want to get away from him in the first place? Quit being retarded.
I'm not calling it rape because of the age difference although a 15 yr old going after an 11 yr old is pretty gross in my opinion but by how she described the situation. Like i said before just because she doesnt think it was rape doesnt mean that it wasnt. Him saying sorry doesnt change that fact.
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spoilt (f)
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Like i said before just because she doesnt think it was rape doesnt mean that it wasnt.
that's the point lots of guys cannot understand. They equate consent to mean its ok. so if a 3 year old asks you for sex and participates willingly then its fine?  a number of under age girls participate in sexual activity.afterall they are just discovering sex and what it is about. add to that hormones. often times they are willing to start and go so far. They never really expect to get penetrative sex. They don't know the mechanics of sex .it suprises them. this "willing participant" didnt even understand why he rolled on a rubber.  . Thats the height of ignorance. This whole incident is past we know but i was just curious as to the stand she took about the whole thing. the guy still hovers about her. she will have kids some day. If he or anyone else for that matter does the exact same thing to her kid will she report to the authorities because she thinks its wrong? Probably not!  . she will probably say MY KID WAS A WILLING PARTICIPANT.
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D-reloaded (f)
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No offence to her but I almsot thought she was still 11 and it happened last week.
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goodguy (m)
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From the lady's story, she didn't sound like she was raped. I understand the viewpoint of you two ladies, but I feel she didn't describe the situation there aptly enough. She said she tried to beak off, he pulled her back, then what? Did she really try to break off? As in, force herself out? Did she scream out to the others for help? Afterall, there were other people in the house too. I think her "breaking off" there was as a result of the pain she felt after the guy inserted his__ (read that line again), and not because it was against her will. From what she described there, she herself was already in the mood, as she was willingly playing along until the painful cherry-popping moment came, which made her want to "break off". Now if you base your arguments on the age of the girl, then that is another case entirely. But the whole act narrated by the lady definitely isn't rape, as far as the dictionary and I are concerned.
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D-reloaded (f)
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goodyguy, when a girl doesnt struggle anymore because she knows the other guy has overpowered her, doesnt make it consensual. Read the story of Gabrielle Union's rape. When she realized that she couldnt get away from his grip, she prayed and hoped the bastard would just finish up and leave her the hell alone. I guess that means she wasnt raped because she wasnt screaming. I can't believe i have to explain this to people who are obviously over 18. I'm disappointed. Then again the general mentality of Africans is that we are asking for it anyway. I guess that's why Rape isnt taken seriously in Nigeria. 
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I-man (m)
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4Play, shut up please What did you read and what did we read?
Look up the definition of rape and tell me how it's any different from "I tried to stop him and get up but he pushed me back down"
Oh,please,shut up.Her story won't pass the reasonable doubt test in any country,never mind Nigeria where I presume the incident happened . Stop being hysterical. If it were consensual why did she want to get away from him in the first place? Quit being retarded.
Her lack of consent had to be in continuum.First,she consented to sexual contact,then she dissented,after which she consented,albeit after the fact.Her brief dissent is sandwiched in between her continued acquiescence. To establish rape,you can't have the "victim" saying yes and no and yes.To hold otherwise will be utterly ridiculous,many people change their mind during sex and then change it again. I'm not calling it rape because of the age difference although a 15 yr old going after an 11 yr old is pretty gross in my opinion but by how she described the situation. Like i said before just because she doesnt think it was rape doesnt mean that it wasnt. Him saying sorry doesnt change that fact.
All that is besides the point.Rape is a legal concept.The argument started because of Spoilt's fatuous assertion that the 15 year old will end up on the sex offender's register if in America-utter nonsense.A majority of under aged kids are sexually active and how many of them end up on the sex offender's list? Its important that the 15 year old was also aware that the 11 year old didn't want to have sex in order to establish rape.Otherwise there wouldn't be any mental element(mens rea) to his act. Quite frankly,this case won't make it pass any jury with half-a-brain.
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D-reloaded (f)
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All that is besides the point.Rape is a legal concept.The argument started because of Spoilt's fatuous assertion that the 15 year old will end up on the sex offender's register if in America-utter nonsense.A majority of under aged kids are sexually active and how many of them end up on the sex offender's list?
What the hell concerns me with the age argument you and spoilt had? I said my reason for calling it rape has nothing to do with the age difference in my opinion. and where did you get "yes, no yes" from? silence means yes now? Like I said before my friend, quit being retarded. It's not a good look on you. 
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I-man (m)
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that's the point lots of guys cannot understand. They equate consent to mean its ok. so if a 3 year old asks you for sex and participates willingly then its fine?  Your own worse pass  If a 3 year old and a 6 or 7 year old had sexual contact(which actually does happen),what happens? Apart from Planet Spoilt,where else do you know where 2 underaged kids are hurled before the law for sexual contact which other. If one of the partners was above age,we had this discussion before in regard to Akon,like I noted then,it will obviously be totally irrelevant if the underaged kid consented. Except of course,the 2 partners here are underaged goodyguy, when a girl doesnt struggle anymore because she knows the other guy has overpowered her, doesnt make it consensual. Read the story of Gabrielle Union's rape. When she realized that she couldnt get away from his grip, she prayed and hoped the bastard would just finish up and leave her the hell alone. I guess that means she wasnt raped because she wasnt screaming.
Quick Googling of Gabrielle Union's rape revealed the Mother of all irrelevance. Actress Gabrielle Union survived a brutal rape when she was 19 when a summer job turned into a nightmare. The Bring It On star, now 29, was trying to earn extra cash by working a late shift in a shoe store in Pleasanton, California, when a gun-wielding maniac attacked her and a friend, forced them to strip in a backroom and then had sex with her. Union admits she got through the terrible ordeal by spiritually leaving her body. She says, "As he was raping me, I felt as though I was floating over myself, thinking, 'This isn't happening, ' and 'I'm perfect, I'm a good person, I'm a good student.'" Union explains in the new issue of fashion magazine Teen Vogue that she reached for the thug's gun at one point - after he'd raped her - but was too shaken up by the experience to kill her attacker. She adds, "I popped the clip back in and fired. I missed him, and he started to hit me. He was almost twice my size, but it was a pretty fair fight for a while because I knew it was either him or me. I kept trying to shoot him, but the trigger was jammed. It felt like a war. Finally, he grabbed for the gun at the same second he punched me in the face, and I let go. But, instead of killing me, he asked me how to get out, and he left." How relevant is the above to the story in this thread?
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D-reloaded (f)
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4Play you are purposely being a jackass and after this response, I'll be ignoring any other bullshit you choose to write
I used Gabrielle's situation as an example of the fact that just because a girl doesnt scream "No No No" throughout the whole thing DOESN'T mean that it automatically became a consented act.
She spoke about the ordeal in my university in 2003, she mentioned how when he first got her, she yelled and tried to push him away, he was way bigger than her so he had her pinned down, eventually she gave up the struggle and just prayed that the event would end as soon as possible after the bastard was done, he was trying to get up to which she tried to snatch the gun he had placed down beside her but it didnt work because the gun was jammed.
Is that ok for you? Now phuck off.
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I-man (m)
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What the hell concerns me with the age argument you and spoilt had? I said my reason for calling it rape has nothing to do with the age difference in my opinion.
Your "reasoned" opinion does not constitute the legal definition of rape.Age doesn't matter in rape?  A bit like saying numbers don't matter in Mathematics. Rape is not what you think it is,rape is what the statutes book define as rape(in the present case,Nigeria's criminal code) There are a lot of things I or you might like to criminalise,but wanting a certain behavior to be criminal doesn't make it criminal.That will be veering from hysteria to delusion.
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I-man (m)
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4Play you are purposely being a jackass and after this response, I'll be ignoring any other bullshit you choose to write
I used Gabrielle's situation as an example of the fact that just because a girl doesnt scream "No No No" throughout the whole thing DOESN'T mean that it automatically became a consented act.
Is that ok for you? Now phuck off.
Firing a gun at someone is the most explicit way of saying no  In reality,if the incident took place in Nigeria,the girl has to clearly indicate no for their to be rape. Stop being delusional,goodguy was spot on in so far this incident happened in Nigeria. That is why it is so hard to secure a conviction.I think about 6% of incidents lead to conviction in the UK(never mind Nigeria).The story we had on this thread won't even be taken seriously any police officer.If you were the judge,and you convicted for rape,you would be hurled for mental examination  You can f*ck off too. 
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Omonunu2u (f)
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Hi Guys, my was OK. but my last was the best. i cried after he stoped i did not want to let go. 
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D-reloaded (f)
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should have kept him in there, Rofl 
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I-man (m)
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Hi Guys, my was OK. but my last was the best. i cried after he stoped i did not want to let go.  should have kept him in there, Rofl  Wouldn't that technically be sexual assault?  If he stopped and you tried to keep him in there,you will be acting against his will.Flip the gender and it sounds worse. You are effectively advocating sexual assault.Sounds ridiculous? Not as much as the shouts of rape only a while ago
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debosky (m)
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Wouldn't that technically be sexual assault?  If he stopped and you tried to keep him in there,you will be acting against his will.Flip the gender and it sounds worse. You are effectively advocating sexual assault.Sounds ridiculous? Not as much as the shouts of rape only a while ago  omonunu is a rapist! 
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D-reloaded (f)
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It's amazing how far people would go for my attention. It's only flattering 40% of the time. This isnt one of those times.
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debosky (m)
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ok ok, enough of this oya D-reloaded tell us of your first sexual experience *or report to my bedroom so i can give you one to tell about* 
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spoilt (f)
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Your own worse pass  If a 3 year old and a 6 or 7 year old had sexual contact(which actually does happen),what happens? Apart from Planet Spoilt,where else do you know where 2 underaged kids are hurled before the law for sexual contact which other. If one of the partners was above age,we had this discussion before in regard to Akon,like I noted then,it will obviously be totally irrelevant if the underaged kid consented. Except of course,the 2 partners here are underaged Quick Googling of Gabrielle Union's rape revealed the Mother of all irrelevance. How relevant is the above to the story in this thread? is your argument that because they are both underaged he didnt rape her?  then you must not have heard of the teenage boys a while back who raped a young girl in a school bathroom. they were underaged too but they got dealt with. there are laws even for underaged 'criminals'. they might not go to prison but there's always juvenile hall. And yeah keep going on and on about all the underaged kids having sex, and nothing being done about it. They apparently have parents like you who hinge on the daft 'consent theory' and do nothing! add to that that their parents never even know they are having sex!  . i'm sure the original poster did not go and chirp to her mum that she had sex with a fifteen year old and she asked for it. Heaven for fall for that compound. I don't know which mother or father (except you of course!) that would not do something. The law makes having sex with an underaged girl a crime not because underaged girls don't have sexual feelings (we all know they feel the stirrings) but because the pregnancies, stds and trauma that MAY come with it is beyond what they can deal with at such a tender age.
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