What Is The Significance Of The Yoruba Tribal Marks

Your question has been answered several times in other posts in the thread. I really don't know how you would have missed that if you read what has been posted. Laudate added a link several pages back describing a traditional Igbo naming ceremony in fairly great detail. It was written by someone you would ethnically approve of, but it seems you didn't bother to read it. I'll post it again (along with another detailed reference that tells you 'how it unfolds and the key players involved') if you can move this discussion over to the correct thread.


I don't know why the naming ceremony thing is a topic of discussion either, although if your parents had gone as far as to block off a street or two in a major Nigerian city, some people here would have forced you to change ethnicities.


I'D like to, but almost everyone else seems to be into this naming ceremony thing. 

TOH--Good night 

I feel you on that spoilt, come to think of it, if not this thread it's just going to another one so seun can lock this thread all he wants, this drama is just going to continue in another thread. Just look at the way naming ceremony and osu just appeared on this thread from nowhere just because thiefofheart and here little gang could not stand the fact that some few on here want to learn about some facial mutilation practiced by the Yoruba.


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where is Ogidiboy sef

Oh dear. . . . .I haven't laughed this much in ages! You really must learn how to stop throwing tantrums, Donzman. Grow up! When I said you flunked your English exams a while back, you kept mute. Now I see the reason why. You were obviously subjected to a lot of verbal abuse as a child, that is why it is so easy for you to hurl insults at anyone who doesn't share your point of view. Shame!! Seek therapy for your condition Donzman, and stop being angry at the world. 

Secondly, learn how to conduct research. You have been whining & scrounging for references. At the risk of repeating myself (gosh, some folks just don't get it!), go back a few pages, and read through all the links that were supplied in my previous posts & open up the books that were also cited. Can you do that on your own, or do you need help?? 

Finally, you have been told over & over, that naming a child in Yoruba land, is not synonymous with a lavish road party or a big ceremony. Usually, only families with deep pockets, or spendthrifts do that in Lagos, not all over the South-West. Yet you keep insisting that naming a child in Yoruba land, is equivalent to throwing a big ceremony and blocking traffic. Oh mi gosh!! This is just so funny!! Must things be repeated more than once, for you to get the point being made? Anyway, let me leave you to wallow in your pit of ignorance and self-delusion. You have always been good at that.

On a last note: Sign up for a few tutorials in contemporary Nigerian culture. It will help you to stop viewing other ethnic groups, through a myopic lens! 

Notice how the foolish OP hasnt been back since. Ironic isnt it?

It doesnt even matter because Iman/4Play had already exposed their true intentions from the beginning.  
e mi ko ni won ton je

Infact it is as easy as ABC, if you have ATTENDED this naming ceremony, come out and say so, also do not forget to tell us how it went.

Hehehehe. . . .like I told someone else earlier, it is time to siddon look. Donzman the nit-wit, keeps insisting "I'm telling you naming ceremonies do not exist in Igboland, " like a comical parrot.

_*edit* Meanwhile another scholar Ibewuike, Victoria Oluomachukwu of the Department of Theology, Uppsala University 2006, who wrote African women and Religious change: A study of the Western Igbo of Nigeria : with a special focus on Asaba town insists that a cultural naming ceremony exists among the Igbo, even though the actual custom may differ among different villages.

Get a summer job, Donz.

I do have one, just not working today because I need to take care of some school business!!

@Laudate

Funny enough my grandma is from Asaba and is definitely older and more experienced than that man, she tells me they do not have naming ceremonies, people name their kids when and how they wish. Between my grey-haired ma and that man, I believe her!

By the way, aren't you one of those claiming Asabas weren't Igbos, shows how hypocritical people are on Nairaland.

asaba's arent igbos? 

Gee. . . . . I haven't had this much fun in years!   Please kindly reproduce the said post where I stated in black & white, that Asaba people were not Igbo. Period. Don't come here to fling unsubstantiated allegations around, Dunce-man!!

@ThiefofHearts, Tonim & TerraCotta,

www.diva-portal.org/diva/getDocument?urn_nbn_se_uu_diva-6200-2__fulltext.pdf -

Please read this article, and pay particular attention to pages 100- 104.

Oh, here is another one as well.

www.kwenu.com/publications/maduabum/igbo_names.htm - 22k

Pay particular attention to the 2nd paragraph, and tell me what you think.

Jealous and bitter are not the right words,there is absolutely nothing about a Yoruba man or woman  for a proud Igbo woman to be jealous of.
I may be hungry and yearning for some fried meat and ofe mmanu from time to time, that does not make me jealous and full of contempt.
Mind yourself o

Too much bitter leaf in your diet, osisi 

you haven't eaten garri until you've taste anambra bitterleaf soup.
I tell you,you will throw away your ewedu and it's accompanying amala

BTW,why are you taking this naming ceremony thing personal.
Does it really matter who does naming ceremony and who doesn't ?

Davidylan happens to be a good example of a neutral person on this issue and has stated his views based on what he observed from his maternal side of the family ( Igbo).

If this argument was say about me reading a book on a universal Yoruba culture where men at age  20 are required to eat a bowl of alligator pepper  as a sign of attaining manhood (I just made this up,so let people should drink their own acid) and I have about 10 Yorubas from various states and cities in Yorubaland tell me they have never heard such a thing and that neither them, their uncles nor their dads,even those in their seventies or anyone they know did such a thing even though they've lived in Yorubaland all their lives but then I insist it happens because in my Igbo culture,that is how to know a boy who has become a man and more over there is a book by a Yorubaman to proove it.(this is just for example o,nobody should quote me o )

I would come off that argument concluding that perhaps this author wrote about a practice in an obscure part of Yorubaland and that would be the reason nobody seems to have heard it and so does not pass for Yoruba culture or at best the individual just made it up to write a book.

This would be my last contribution on this  naming ceremony topic,it became silly after the first rebuttal for me  to even continue.

Osisi, you KNOW very well the argument pretty much started because you and a few others got on Non Igbo backs about the whole "culture" of osu/umeh in Igboland telling us that as non Igbos that we have no right to speak about it because "we don't understand", so for you guys to come on this one and do the exact thing is sheer hypocrisy. Then the fact that we just mentioned that facial marks arent just exclusive to Yorubas anyway and you and Donz's excuse was "well it isnt as prominent as yours", how the hell does that make any difference? Why must you turn everything into a "we are better than you" competition. whether or not it's "not as prominent" doenst change the fact that it's a marking on a person's face usually without their consent so there is no "better".

Now as for the naming, what I'm saying is just because some people havent heard of certain things in their culture doesnt mean they arent true. Plenty of new things I learn everyday about the Yorubas or even Nigerians in general either from my dad, my boyfriend  ,  reasearch books or articles. I'm NOT going to deny them because either I or my dad has never experienced them.  Same way I wouldnt ask you to deny The bible because you werent there when Moses or Jesus were around. It doesnt make any sense and I guess someone can make up stuff just to write a book, but when you have MORE than one source about that certain thing, then what is wrong with accepting it as is? You make it seem like only one article was written about this.
Terra, laudate and co have mentioned more than 7 sources so far osisi, I would understand your objection had it been that these were written by Yorubas or some other tribe but they werent. Take the ichie thing, it was mentioned that ichie marks were mentioned in "Things Fall Apart", would you say that Achebe was lying "just for the sake of writing", because you supposedly havent seen someone with them?