I Hate Muslims Even Though I Shouldn't

If Davidlyn understand English language he will know that ‘see’ does not mean enter, on the day of judgment Allah (The al-mighty, the al-wise) will bring paradise and hell to the full view of every created son of Adam while he will save the Muslims from entering hell by admitting them (Muslims) into paradise the non Muslims (like Davidlyn if he refuse to repent) will be condemned to hell.
U said quite correctly that we do not worship the same God. In that sense u are very correct because
1. the God of the Muslims dose not have a son ;(John 3:16) this part of your Bible claim that Jesus is the only begotten son of God but only to be contradicted by another verse of the same bible Psalm 2:7 which states that David is also a begotten son of God
2. The God of the Muslims does not have a beginning like your’s John 1:1 (compare Sura 112:1-4)
3. The God of the Muslim cannot be defeated by Jacob in a wrestling match like what your bible described in genesis of your God Gen 32:28 here your God was defeated by Jacob in a fight. Whereas in Quran’ God is one and irresistible (wahidul kahaar)
4. The God of the Muslims is all seeing so does not need to go to the garden looking for Adam. Gen3:8-9
5. The God of the Muslims does not become tired  after the creation of the heavens and the earth, and doesn’t have any need to rest.Exo31:17 also Gen 2:2….compare (Surah 50 v 38 verily we created heavens and the earth and what exist them in 6 days and no tiredness affect us)

U claim Jesus died on the cross for your sake if that is true why then did he say Eli Eli la ma sa bach-thani (my lord my lord why have thou forsaken me) while he was on that cross; Matt27:46 also Mark15:34. Why was he crying? Wasn’t he prepared to die for u? Did he forget as at that time that he is about to die for your sin which is his main mission?

Davidlyn claim that the Qur’an was copied from the bible because according to him the bible is the only authentic word of God
Then he should answer the following questions
a Who revealed the contradictory genealogy of Jesus in the bible matt 1:1- 16 (between David and Jesus are 28 ancestors) compare Luk3:23-38(between David and Jesus where 42 ancestors)
b who revealed the following contradictions in your ‘word of God’
1. Who incited Davidlyn to count the fighting men of Israel?
•   God did (2 Samuel 24: 1)
•   Satan did (I Chronicles 2 1:1)
2. In that count how many fighting men were found in Israel?
•   Eight hundred thousand (2 Samuel 24:9)
•   One million, one hundred thousand (I Chronicles 21:5)
3. God sent his prophet to threaten Davidlyn with how many years of famine?
•   Seven (2 Samuel 24:13)
Three (I Chronicles 21:12)
4. How old was Ahaziah when he began to rule over Jerusalem?
•   Twenty-two (2 Kings 8:26)
•   Forty-two (2 Chronicles 22:2)
5. When did Davidlyn bring the Ark of the Covenant to Jerusalem? Before defeating the Philistines or after?
•   After (2 Samuel 5 and 6)
•   Before (I Chronicles 13 and 14)
6. Did Joshua and the Israelites capture Jerusalem?
•   Yes (Joshua 10:23, 40)
•   No (Joshua 15:63)
7. Who was the father of Joseph, husband of Mary?
•   Jacob (Matthew 1:16)
•   Hell (Luke 3:23)
In Davidlyn’s claim that the qur’an is a product of plagiarism can he tell us which, among the multiple version of the bible, was used for this purpose ? in the world today we have more than 12 different version of the bible. If he thinks I’m lying then he should verify whether the information below is true or false
(If it is the truth you are really after, then you should not be afraid to look hard at what you believe)
Key:
KJV = King James Version                              NEB = New English Bible       
ATHB =American translation of the HB           NASB =New American standard
NWT = New word translation                          NIV = new international version
RSV = Revised Standard Version         AB     = Amplified Bible
LB   =   Living Bible                                          NJB = New Jerusalem Bible                   
HB =   Holy Bible               GNB = Good News Bible

Contradictions between the various versions of the bible
1.   What was the age of Saul when he began to resign (1 Samuel 13:1)? According to the NEB he was 50 years old. NIV says he was 30 years old AB and NASB say he was 40 years old, while in the KJV, RSV, HB, LB, NWT, NJB and ATHB his age is unknown. The whole verse has been dropped out of the GNB.
2.   For how long did Saul reign(1 Sam 13:1)?according to NEB it was 22 years according to KJV, HB,AB, LB, and NWT, it was only 2 years while according to NIV it was 42years. The NASB says it was for 32years. In the RSB, NJB, AND ATHB it is unknown while the whole verseis dropped out of GNB.
3.   what creature was crying in the sky (Rev8:13)?according to KJV, it was an angel while according to the NEB,RSV,NIV,HB, LB, NWT, NJB,GNB,AB,NASBand ATHB it was an angel (a bird).
4.   What was the age of jehoiachin when he became king(2 Chron 36:9)?according to ATHB,KJV NEB RSV, NASB and LB he was 8years old(which contradict 2king24:8 in this same bibles),while according to the NIV, HB NWT, NGB, AB and the GNB he was 18 years old.
5.   How many years of famine in the land of Davidlyn (2sam 24:13)? According to the KJV, HB LB, NWT, AB, NASB and ATHB it was 7years (which contradict 1 chron21:12, in this same bibles).while according to the NEB, RSV, NIV, NJB and GNB it was 3 years.
6.   What was the age of Ahaziah when he became king(2chron22:2)?according to KJV, NEB,RSV.NGB,AB and ATHB he was 42 years old(which contradicts 2kings8:26 in this same bibles),while according to NIV, HB, NWT, NASB and GNB he was 22 years old.
      
VERSES DROPPED OUT OF VARIOUS VERSION OF THE BIBLE
1.   Mathew 17:21,Mark15:28and Luke17:36 are present only the KJV,HB, AB, and, LB, and have been dropped out of the NEB, RSV, NIV, NWT, NJB,GNB, and the ATHB, NASB  lack Mark15:28 and Luke17:36.
2.   Mathew 21:44 is present in the KJV, NIV, HB, LB, NWT, AB, NASB, and ATHB but has been dropped out of the NEB, RSV, NJB and GNB.
3.   Mathew23:14 and Acts15:34 are present only KJV and AB have been dropped out the NEB, RSV, NIV, HB, LB, NWT, NJB, GNB and ATHB, NASB, lacks Acts15:34.]
4.   Mark 11:26 and Mark 9:44 and 46and present only the KJV, and HB, have been dropped out of the NEB, RSV,NIV, LB, NWT, NJB, GNB, NASB and ATHB.  AB, lacks Mark9:44and 46.
5.   Luke 22:43 and 44 are present in the KJV, NEB, NIV, HB, LB, AB, NASB, NWT, NJB, GNB and ATHB, but have been dropped out of the RSV.

ORTHER VERSES ON WHICH VARIOUS VERSIONS OF THE BIBLE DIFERS INCLUDE;
Luke10:1 and17 1samuel13:5, ezre8:35, mathew12:47, acts8:37, rom16:24 mathew18:11, mark7:16 John5:4, 2timothy3:16, e.t.c.
                In short, which Bible is the holy Bible? No two bibles are identical. If the bible is entirely the word of God, then these contradictions and differences among the bibles could not have been found in them. To consider these differences as insignificant is to imply that God makes mistakes. These and several other mistakes only prove that the bible is not the word of God. The existence of human interference with the bible is clear beyond any doubt (Jer. 8:.
David also claims that the original Qur’an get missing, now we want to let him now that right from the time the qur’an was revealed till now there have been people who put the entire qur’an in memory apart from those that wrote in different materials. So the authenticity of the qur’an is guarantee by two sources of preservation. Today in the world we have more 5,000.00 student of qur’an of less than 7 year who have the entire qur’an in memory, whereas even the Pope doe not have the bible in memory. His own bible has 7 extra book; The Roman Catholic bible has 73 books while the protestant versions all have 66 books. WHICH BIBLE IS THE WORD OF GOD?
In (Jer. 8:. We were told the bible is corrupt .
Don’t be discourage by the length of this article just try and confirm all these facts
Mr online preacher/ righteousness I want answer to all these questions
If u can’t answer them then know that Islam is the only religion Allah will accept; now u will not have any excuse with God since I have told u the truth with evidence. Sura 3:85 ‘He that seek any other religion than lslam it will not be accepted from him and on the day of judgement will be among the losers.’

@ skintom77. You are such a dunce. People like you allow the stereotype to persist that islam is not a religion for those who can at least think.
You had to just copy another post word for word and then post here? No originality, no attempt to even reason for urself?


Stop wasting your time;

1. Correct versions of the quran translate verse 71 to read "go down into", "herded into" and not the "see" that hypocrites like you have smuggled in to cover up your contradictions. I'm show you understand that to "see" and "go down into" do not have the same meanings.

2. There is NO repentance nor salvation in islam, it is an alien concept smuggled from the bible to plaster over the quran.

3. Where did you get that politically correct explanation? Did the quran describe such to u? Read those verses more clearly so you can remove the fog over your evil eyes.

@skintom77,   what is it really that you and ustaz are trying to convey?

Hey davidylan,

There's no need to defend yourself in this one - afterall, 'allah' has ordained that infidels should be treated harshly, and their necks should be struck off their heads. You shouldn't hate those who obey 'allah'; rather, you should love them, be nice to them, "submit" your neck to 'allah's will, and "submit" your wife/wives as booties to those who fight in 'allah's cause. Surely, 'allah' has explained everything in his religion and made it easy in the way of peace.

Islam means "submission", remember? So, why are you and I protesting against 'allah's will instead of "submitting"? It's about time that we "revert" to allah's will so that he can fulfill his irrevocable decree upon us by hording his beloved to Hell. Don't you want the mercy that allah gives to his slaves - the mercy that makes sure all his slaves are taken to hell (where the likes of another slave of his - oyb - says that the fire will cool down first for us)?

Oya, time to "revert" O! You don't want to keep protesting against the "submission" O! As for me and my house, we shall keep submitting the very truth of Sura 19:71 for all to see!

Nothing insha Allah. Bombing, Bombing all the way, until there are no more places to bomb.

Salaam Brother

Davidlyn why was your Lord and personal saviour crying on the cross? answer all the question raised about your Bible, but instead u went just blah blah.

@ustaz,


Would you stop snivelling like a lazy-about and face up to why Allah wants to take you to HELL Fire (Sura 19:71)? That Jesus cried out as in Matt. 27:46 doesn't mean He was sobbing or weeping; unless you want to convince us that Muhammad was being sent to illiterate folks like you (afterall, one of yours has called him an illiterate prophet).

      domt mind them, they all have anger management problem, i am yet to meet a "real moslem"

@ Daviddylan

You should not talk like this no matter how anyone may have hurt you. Hatred is not an attribute of christ. Rather pray that God shouldempower you to stand against the spirits called Kabiru and Khariga both live in the desert of arabia.

Salam to my Patient brothers and sisters in ISLAM.
It is only a fool that will read the QUR'AN contextually and the feel he had the message. @davidylan the QUR'AN is not like your abrogated book which you ppl called holy.
For My Muslim Brothers. we always pray to him to guide us to the right path,the path of those whom HE has favored. PPL like @davidylan are mong those who have EYES but cant see and will never see the truth( no sight), have EARS but will never hear. because ALLAH has made them not to have sight and also deaf.

that's very true . . . funny how the bible is the "abrogated book" even though the quran DEPENDS on the bible to fill in gaping holes in its claims on jewish prophets . . . and once contained "abrogated" satanic verses. 

Can the average muslim use his brain? Well lets allow him to copy a quote from the "abrogated" bible. Allah seems to be ok with borrowing from the bible when it suits him. Cant say i blame him . . .

I am so sick of empty and dogmatic finger-pointing.

Look at this typical xenophobic, narrowminded, generalistic, presumptuous quote:


Some-one is talking about brains and yet a good surmise of his own dogma is -


Still talking about brains???????????????

^^^ O, and i forgot that in the esteemed opinion of Mr. Davidlylan, that "son" that was killed was God himself.

The same great professor Davidylan imagines that the death on the cross saves him of sins, in utter disregard of Christ's own words - "Whatsoeevr a man soweth, the same shall he reap". . .

Go on, David, knock yourself out.

No serious minded intellectual would ever make the sweeping stereotyping statements that you do, and frankly, they betray a definitely inferior world view, and i dare, say, a definitely inferior personal character and system of ethics.

That needed to be said.

^^^ David -

Let me make one thing clear: i deliberately choose harsh words for you because of the ridiculously harsh words you use with others.

I am more saddened by your presumptiveness because you have never shown any depth of understanding of scripture yourself, certainly not beyond the average Mountain-of-Fire crusader. It seems to me that you have never taken a queit moment to reflect on existence itself, outside of the limited prizim of religion.

I happen to have read the Bible no less than four times from cover to cover, and i am still reading it over and over again. My reading of the bible was founded on a deep thirst for spiritual truth, which i have independently sought since the age of 12. I only state this since you bothered to ask.

It is in this same regard, that i have found it edifying to read far and wide, including the Quoran, a copy of which rests in my bedroom library, along with diverse spiritual works spanning Europe and particularly the Orient.

The first thing you would have recognised, if you had a moment of true introspection and extropection, is that humanity is diverse, and made in diverse cultural and historical patterns.

Without getting exhaustive, for now i will only remind you of the words in Acts 10: 34 - 35,  ". . . God is no respecter of persons. . . but in every nation, he that feareth HIM and worketh righteousness is acceptable to HIM". . .

Given your antecedents, i am certain that the above would either be lost on you, or, not being lost, you would seek to read it through the narrow tunnel of your dogma.

David, to be honest, the very title of this thread alone, proves my point about your mentality. How can any follower of Christ declare that he "hates" another group of people? Did this Christ not urge you to love even your enemies, preaching the "gospel" to them????????????

Again, this convinces me, like i said earlier, that you are a christian only in dogma, and definitely not in ethics.

We will come later, to the shaky foundations of even the very dogma that you espouse.

^^^ Well, you did not dissappoint, me with the zero quality of your post.

I am happy to take away a few things from this discussion.


Great, so you admit your education is limited to one book only. I will cherish this admission (although it has always been obvious).


Great again: so your christianity is devoid of ethics. I will also cherish this admission.

I will take the pains to school you in the essentials of -

   1. A broad cosmogony

   2. Interpersonal respect

   3. History

   4. Ethics.

   5. Existential Insight and interpretation of Scripture.

Although i am fearful it will lead nowhere, considering the vast limitations of your world-view, clearly conditioned only on background, and not on personal meditation and insight. . .

But, my dear son, i will try. . .

The bible does not need existentialism, cosmogony and all other irrelevant piffle . . . John 3:15-18 is about as simple as it gets. If in doubt pls read John 3.

If you still dont understand it and need to grab books on hinduism to "reflect" on "existence" then pls find your own religion.