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Seun (m)
Re: The Prophet Muhammad Cartoons
« #96 on: February 13, 2006, 07:00 AM »

You have to understand that all religions are peaceful and at the same time all religions can be used to incite violence.  It all depends on how you interprete the religion and what the radical Islamists are doing is that they are interpreting the Quran in a very radical and intolerant manner.  That's the problem. 

Christianity itself as been abused in a similar manner in the past.
charlisco (m)
Re: The Prophet Muhammad Cartoons
« #97 on: February 13, 2006, 09:03 AM »

seun i agree with u, but also in the past the islamic religion had aslo abuse likewise the christian too. we are talking about the present, how should we look things now
Seun (m)
Re: The Prophet Muhammad Cartoons
« #98 on: February 13, 2006, 09:10 AM »

The muslims have to be learn how to conduct themselves with an attitude of tolerance.  This will only happen if their children are educated in a more liberal setting.  Children brought up to dogmatically believe in a particular religion and the people who are leaders in the congregation are bound to become intolerant adults who can be easily manipulated by their leaders to do just about anything. 

We need to give the young Arabs the opportunity to learn how to think for themselves.
vichel (m)
Re: The Prophet Muhammad Cartoons
« #99 on: February 13, 2006, 09:47 AM »

I agree, and the key word here is Tolerance
madam (f)
Re: The Prophet Muhammad Cartoons
« #100 on: February 13, 2006, 04:28 PM »

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Religion is causing a lot of trouble in the world so that why i particularly do not see any reason why people should inflame it just for the comfort of free speech

I support u,  I am a christian but i do not see why anybody should make fun of another's religion especially jokes directed to the muslims,  they do not like it and have never been quiet about it,  the person publishing all these jokes is sitting some where peacefully and other people are being killed,  i still can't understand the sense in it,  Free speech my  * t  *
seeni4ever (m)
Re: The Prophet Muhammad Cartoons
« #101 on: February 13, 2006, 04:38 PM »

those who are protesting are the ones that are stupid. someone draw a cartoon in denmark, u are killing yourself in pakistan. do know the time when they accused the u.s soldiers of flushing away qurans in guantanama bay prison in cuba, over 200 people died in iran over the protest. now can you tell me who is stupid, those wo are killing themselves over there or the us soldiers. this world is weird and if you believe in peace,let peace reign.
madam (f)
Re: The Prophet Muhammad Cartoons
« #102 on: February 13, 2006, 05:04 PM »

I agree with u,  but people should please try and stop making fun of these muslims,  thats my opinion
seeni4ever (m)
Re: The Prophet Muhammad Cartoons
« #103 on: February 13, 2006, 05:21 PM »

i have seen many cartoons about other religion. the recent one i saw is on comedy central about jesus and mary and this is a television, but who cares and another one in front of rolling stone magazine with kanye west dressing like jesus and this is a life portrait not cartoon.


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vichel (m)
Re: The Prophet Muhammad Cartoons
« #104 on: February 14, 2006, 08:53 AM »

Well take a very good look at these pictures, but u don't see any Christain fro Nairaland swearing and rioting because a supposed image of Jesus is holding a gun and a glass of beer. If the same thing had be done with islam, A castertrophic war would have erupted. Tolerance again is the key, this life would not be perfect exist without a little humor.
@ the pictures
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whitesoftx (m)
Re: The Prophet Muhammad Cartoons
« #105 on: February 14, 2006, 09:13 AM »

Agree with you guys really! its all about tolerance but would you forget about the Godly injuctions?

@Seun
You don't have to take this issue too personal or too serious? I don't really support killing each other, makes no sense but don't forget you have dos and don't yourself, what happened if someone do your donts? you will loose control? No you don't have to and thats where tolerance works but you guys forgot something, you don't have to take civilization into religion, you remember what happened to Paul in the Bible when he said 'Lets forget about the old past ways of worship and lay down new ones according to civilisation. he was *******. Now come back to the isssue at hand, IT IS STRICTLY PROHIBITED to play with Godly Injusctions, the islamic injuctions does not support thus act, SIMPLE. you remeber 'Thou shall not call the name of your lord in Vain' that's part of it. you don't have to critized them, what you need is to school them about tolerance. Together Everybody Acheive More, no hatred to any religion or individual. lets keep learning in all aspect, learning never ends.

Keep it up folks! Love Y'all.
thelma2 (f)
Re: The Prophet Muhammad Cartoons
« #106 on: February 14, 2006, 02:44 PM »

i don't know why some people should behave like robots in the name of religion. you can almost get them to do anything you want with the snap of a finger. go, they go, come they come. if they had just overlooked it, more than 100 billion people would not have heard about it. but they choose to get aprehensive over nothing. When you forbid something, it makes it all juicier and people would want to see what all the noise is all about. that's why Eve ate the forbidden fruit.
Jakumo (m)
Re: The Prophet Muhammad Cartoons
« #107 on: February 15, 2006, 02:20 PM »

The current global Cartoon Capers demonstrate so clearly that the herding instinct can be as powerfull in humans as it is in sheep, cattle and lemmings.
Seun (m)
Re: The Prophet Muhammad Cartoons
« #108 on: February 15, 2006, 03:47 PM »

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You don't have to take this issue too personal or too serious?
When and where did I take this issue personally or too seriously?

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you don't have to critized them, what you need is to school them about tolerance.
Isn't that exactly whhat I wrote in the two posts on this page.  You people just like attacking the admin without cause.
GL (f)
Re: The Prophet Muhammad Cartoons
« #109 on: February 16, 2006, 02:58 AM »

When would these Westerners learn that some things are just sacred?

I condemn the cartoons because the Danes knew muslims would react this way, so it's like they did it purposely to provoke them. However, the cartoons are 6 months old but some muslims decided they wanted the violence and took the cartoons round the Islamic world.

I strongly condemn the violence. I think rational muslims need to do something about it if they care about the way the world perceives Islam. They need to realize that some muslims are sending out bad signals. Since I can't read the Koran, the muslims are all I would base my conclusions on Islam on. The same for billions of people elsewhere. Most of the terrorists we see are muslims. The whole world is usually careful not to step on their toes, probably for fear of their resorting to violence.

Take a look at Nigeria, anyone is free to live in the South but if I go to Zamfara and other northern states they expect me to be bound by their religion. If muslims want the world to stop associating them with terrorism, they need to ACT what they're saying. see the reaction the reference to Muhammed caused during the Miss World that was supposed to hold in Nigeria.

I heard of a film in the US that portrayed Jesus as an homosexual and another that portrayed Him as having sexual relations with Mary Magdalene. That, IMO, is the ultimate insult, as the Bible spoke vehemently against homosexuality and the Church has been fighting it for years. Portraying Jesus as an homosexual is downright nasty. Yet, there wasn't all this violence.
GL (f)
Re: The Prophet Muhammad Cartoons
« #110 on: February 16, 2006, 03:06 AM »

Most of the time when there's violence like this it is usually the leaders or elites that ignite and fuel it for their personal gain.

Many muslims, particularly among Arabs, see the West as an enemy, but the children of most Islamic rulers school in the US and UK. i read an article some time ago that said many children of rulers in the Arab world are more comfortable in Jeans than in their native wears. Meanwhile these leaders are busy telling the masses that they should fight the West.

I've heard of scholarships they give to people to study Islamic studies in Egypt and Saudi Arabia. How many of the elite muslims send their children there? Their children are all in US and UK. I guess those are the only scholarships in Nigeria that get to the poor.

I believe that many muslim leaders are not faithful to their religion (as a peaceful, loving religion) the masses are and believe they must be subject to their leaders and so the leaders are using the masses.
GL (f)
Re: The Prophet Muhammad Cartoons
« #111 on: February 16, 2006, 03:10 AM »

RENT-A-RIOT ABCS
by Amir Taheri
New York Post
February 9, 2006

February 9, 2006 -- 'A BLESSING from God": So have Iran's leaders, starting with President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, described the controversy over the Danish cartoons of the Prophet Muhammed.

A closer look at the row, however, shows that the whole rigmarole was launched by Sunni-Salafi groups in Europe and Asia, with Ahmadinejad and his Syrian vassal, President Bashar al-Assad, belatedly playing catch-up. God had nothing to do with it.

To see how the whole thing was manufactured to serve precise political ends, consider the chronology of events:

The cartoons were published last September and, for more than three months, caused no ripples outside small groups of Salafi militants in Denmark.

In December, a group of Danish Muslim militants filled their suitcases with photocopies of the cartoons and embarked on a tour of Muslim capitals.

They failed to get to Tehran: The Iranians, being Shi'ites, saw them as Sunni activists bent on mischief. But they managed to go to Cairo, Damascus and Beirut and, were allowed to send emissaries to Saudi Arabia.

The Danish Muslim group also did something dishonest — it added a number of far more derogatory cartoons of the Prophet to the 12 published by the Jyllands-Posten newspaper, and misled its interlocutors in Muslim capitals into believing that all had appeared in the Danish press.

In Cairo, the Muslim Brotherhood told the Danish group that this was not the time to kick a fuss over the cartoons. The brotherhood was busy plotting its election strategy and pretending to be a "moderate" political party. The last thing it wanted was to be branded as a rabid anti-West force. The brotherhood leaders suggested that the matter be put on ice until January.

The Danish militants also received a negative reply from Hamas, the Palestinian radical movement. Hamas was busy trying to win a general election and needed to reassure at least part of the Palestinian middle classes. The Hamas advice was: Wait until after we have won.

The emissaries found a more sympathetic audience in Qatar — where the satellite-TV channel Al Jazeera (owned by the emir) specializes in inciting Muslims against the West and democracy in general. The channel's chief Islamist televangelist, Yussuf al-Qaradawi (an Egyptian preacher who is also a friend of Ken Livingstone, the mayor of London), was all too keen to issue a "fatwa" to light the fuse. He then mobilized his network of Muslim Brotherhood militants in Europe to attack the cartoons and claim, falsely, that images were not allowed in Islam and that the Danish paper had violated "an absolute principle of The Only True Faith."

Thus the call for Jihad received its supposed "theological" green light. (Ironically, the section of the brotherhood headed by al-Qaradawi is financed by the European Union as a non-governmental organization.)

As the first rent-a-mob crowds appeared on global TV screens, Ahmadinejad realized that here was a cow worth milking.

For Denmark is set to assume the rotating presidency of the You.N. Security Council — at the very time that the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) is expected to refer Iran to the Security Council and demand sanctions. What better, for Tehran's purposes, than to portray Denmark as "an enemy of Islam" and mobilize Muslim sympathy against the Security Council?

To regain the initiative from the Sunni-Salafi groups, Ahmadinejad quickly ordered a severing of commercial ties with Denmark, thus portraying the Islamic Republic as the Muslim world's leader in the anti-Danish campaign.

Syria was next to jump on the bandwagon, again for mercenary reasons. The United Nations wants Syrian President Bashar al-Assad and five of his relatives and aides, including his younger brother, for questioning in the murder of Lebanon's former premier, Rafiq al-Hariri. (Assad has tried to negotiate immunity for himself and his brother in exchange for handing over the others — but the You.N. wouldn't play.) As with Iran's nuclear program, the Syrian dossier will reach the Security Council under Danish presidency. To portray Denmark as "an enemy of the Prophet" would not be such a bad thing when the council, as expected, points the finger at Assad and his regime as responsible for a series of political murders, including that of Hariri.

The Danish-cartoons cow will also be milked in another way: Tehran and Damascus have launched a diplomatic campaign to put the issue of "protecting religions against blasphemy" on the Security Council agenda. If that were to happen, issues such as Iran's quest for the atomic bomb and Syria's murder machine in Lebanon might be pushed aside, at least as far as world public opinion is concerned.

People watching TV news may think that the whole Muslim world is ablaze with righteous rage translated into "spontaneous demonstrations." The truth is that the overwhelming majority of Muslims, even if offended by cartoons which they have not seen, have stayed away from the street shows put on by the radicals and the Iranian and Syrian security services.

The destruction of Danish and Norwegian embassies and consulates happened in only two places: Damascus and Beirut. Anyone who knows Syria would know that there are no spontaneous demonstrations in that dictatorship. (Even then, the Syrian secret police failed to attract more than 1,000 rent-a-mob militants.) And the Syrian government refused the Norwegian Embassy's request for additional police protection. It was clear that the Syrians wanted the embassies sacked.

The rent-a-mob attacks in Beirut were more cynical. The Syrian Ba'ath — which has been murdering, imprisoning or deporting Sunni-Salafi militants for years — was suddenly transformed from a radical secular and Socialist party into "the Vanguard of the Faith." The mob that committed the atrocities in Beirut was bused from Syria and consisted of Muslim Brotherhood militants who are never allowed to demonstate on their own account.

The Muslim crowds that have demonstrated over the cartoons seldom exceeded a few hundred; the Muslim segment of humanity is estimated at 1.2 billion. And only three of Denmark's embassies in 57 Muslim countries have been attacked.

The Danish Muslim gang who lied by adding cartoons that had never been published has done more damage to the Prophet and to Islam than the 12 controversial cartoonists of Jyllands-Posten.

The fight between Denmark and its detractors is not between the West and Islam. It is between democracy and a global fascist movement masquerading as religion.

Iranian author Amir Taheri is a member of Benador Associates.
GL (f)
Re: The Prophet Muhammad Cartoons
« #112 on: February 16, 2006, 03:15 AM »

I got this from Opinion Journal Online. Wise words, particularly the last paragraph or two.

Moral Atomic Bomb
In the midst of a planetary intifada, let us stand by the moderate Muslims.

BY BERNARD-HENRI LEVY
Thursday, February 9, 2006 12:01 a.m. EST

One can find these cartoons mediocre.
One can perceive in them, as I do, a certain similarity with the anti-Semitic and racist caricatures of the 1930s or '50s.
One can--and it would still be true--decide that depicting the prophet in this way, particularly with such dumb and obnoxious features, wasn't the brightest idea in the present context and amounted to tossing a lit match onto a powder keg.
Still, it is one thing to publish ludicrous cartoons in a newspaper that no one has heard of outside Denmark, but it is quite another to see these cartoons travel around the globe four months later, igniting a form of planetary intifada with enormous demonstrations, embassies and consulates set on fire, a priest shot dead in Turkey, four protesters killed in Mazar-i-Sharif in Afghanistan, not to mention the turning of Westerners living on Islamic soil into targets, mortal enemies threatened with death--expiatory victims offered to the white-hot, crazed and radicalized crowd.

 
So what made this demented scene, this planetary upheaval, possible? However you might look at the problem, it is hard not to see that insidious forces have brought these drawings to the attention of the Muslim masses. And it is hard not to link this provocation, the deliberate circulation of these cartoons, the quasi-home-delivery of a Danish paper that no one could have guessed had so many readers in the Muslim world, it is hard not to link this self-inflicted blasphemy, this calculated offense (calculated, mind you, by the organizers of the distribution of the cartoons), it is hard not to link this blasphemy to a new planetary configuration, itself determined by three recent and major events.
The diversionary tactic of a Syria which we never saw so concerned over religious matters, but which now turns out to be capable of anything--including infiltrating agents into Lebanon and sponsoring demonstrations in Damascus, where it is well known that nothing of the sort can happen without the explicit assent of the government--in order to reclaim its role as a great regional agitator and make everyone forget the involvement of its secret services in the murder of Rafik Hariri.
The hardening of Iran's Islamic Republic, ready to make all kinds of theological concessions (including a grand historic alliance of Shiites and Sunnis, which experts have been telling us for decades would be against nature) with the goal of heading up in the Muslim and Arab world the grand anti-Christian, anti-Semitic and antidemocratic crusade.
And then this tragedy in the Palestinian territories of the victory of an ideology whose themes (the call, based on the denial of the Holocaust, for the pure and simple destruction of Israel and the Jews) had up to now been in power only in openly dictatorial, sometimes even crypto-fascist, states. This ideology has triumphed for the first time in a long while through democratic decision and the sacred path of the ballot. Would we be witnessing, without this electoral sacrament of Hamas, Hebron crowds so sure of their right to hold any Westerner in the West Bank accountable for the offense? Would we be witnessing all these Fatah militants--were it not for the will to defy Hamas on the very terrain where it won--actually trying to outbid everyone else in the grotesque denunciation of the "French position," as manifested by the reprinting of the cartoons in an obscure Parisian newspaper?
These three events are linked as a triangle. There is between these three poles a veritable triangle of death, which is in the process of locking into place thanks to the cartoons affair-- and which, if it is successfully welded together, will produce not just symbolic heat, but, with an Iranian bomb, a fissile heat unlike anything we saw in the good old axis of evil.

 
And, faced with this triangulation in progress, faced with this formidable hate-and-death machine, faced with this "moral atomic bomb," we have no other solution than to counter with another triangle--a triangle of life and reason, which more than ever must unite the United States, Europe and Israel in a rejection of any clash of civilizations of the kind desired by the extremists of the Arab-Muslim world and by them alone.
The heart of this second triangle? First, the affirmation of principles. The affirmation of the press's right to the expression of idiocies of its choosing--rather than the acts of repentance that too many leaders have resorted to, and which merely encourages in the Arab street the false and counterproductive illusion that a democratic state may exert power over its press.
And second, in the same breath, the reaffirmation of our support for those enlightened moderate Muslims who know that the honor of Islam is far more insulted, and trampled under foot, when Iraqi terrorists bomb a mosque in Baghdad, when Pakistani jihadists decapitate Daniel Pearl in the name of God and film their crime, or when an Algerian fundamentalist emir disembowels, while reciting the Quran, an Algerian woman whose only crime was to have dared show her beautiful face. Moderate Muslims are alone these days, and in their solitude they more than ever need to be acknowledged and hailed.

Mr. Lévy is the author of "American Vertigo," published recently by Random House, and of "Who Killed Daniel Pearl?" (Melville House, 2003). This piece was translated from the original French by Hélène Brenkman.
Akolawole (m)
Re: The Prophet Muhammad Cartoons
« #113 on: February 16, 2006, 10:30 PM »

@ Seun

Why did you post this in Politics?

I beg send it to where it belong, which is Religion.

I am a Christian, i live all my life with "muslims", i can at least recite two passages of Quran. I like Nigerian Southern muslims. 
segun06
Re: The Prophet Muhammad Cartoons
« #114 on: February 17, 2006, 05:39 AM »

I think religion is rubbish.  I think we all should get to live life based on our values and not based on the values of some x old pastor or imam.  History has been known to change over time, who's to say that the Bible/Quran or whichever holy book u follow, has not been altered by common men.  How come none of these holy books never mentioned the others planets?  On what day did God create the other planets?  Just be good to your fellow men and you should be able to get into paradise (if there is one).
zarah (f)
Re: The Prophet Muhammad Cartoons
« #115 on: February 17, 2006, 10:46 AM »

if you ask me, the world is free that is why we have freedom of speech, press, expression and watever, well terrorism in itself is a freedom of expression and if you express your right of freedom by vulgar cartoons why should i not express mine by killing you. i see that almost all the views here are by christians, its no wonder and in as much as you would want to think you are being fair, the hatred for muslims in your tones are obvious.
Well christians think religion and modernisation are inseperable, and am sorry to say they have no respect for their god, so why should they respect any others? i hear expressions like jesus fucking christ, not even if jesus was here, jesus has no father so therefore he is a bastard and so on and so forth, well muslims respect their religion and their god alot, this things are unacceptable.
i have never critisized jesus because i believe in him as one of the prophets of allah, so you have no right to play with my religion if even i don't.
yes sharia is a way of life agreable to the muslims why shouldnt they live it, you can live your life of fornication, alcoholism and prostitution but i don't have to encourage it, afterall am not forcing myne on you, i live in lagos and hardly will you see a car without one jesus sticker or the other , in my office they pray to jesus in our general meetings, and they throw jesus in my face and breath it down my neck all the time but yet it is me who is the terrorist because i don't worship and dance and sing like they do.
nobody in the north will try to opress you with religion because muslims worship discreetly, they don't sing and dance and disturb. the only day you may feel its presence is for an hour on friday, or on eid days and that is  the only congregation you see. and yet muslims are forcing sharia on you. simply because they say if you want to drink, fornicate or whatever do it without witnesses if you must. na wa sha. as if christianity allows that.
but truth is if you don't learn to respect what you worship, and start to respect others and stop critisizing others, well its in the QUR"AAN that its a religious war that will end the world, so lets just end it.
alheri (f)
Re: The Prophet Muhammad Cartoons
« #116 on: February 17, 2006, 11:25 AM »

@zarah. Whats getting you all worked up? No one stopped muslims from contributing to this thread so why are you making the fact that christians are contributing a big deal? Afterall, No christian here has supported what those cartoons imply. They are just commenting on the reactions and if you think its OK to react(expression as you put it ) to those cartoons by killing people, good for you. Youre talking as if it was the church that sent the journalist to print those cartoons or something. If youve got pent up emotions about people in your office, why not go deal with it with your colleagues? If your colleagues pray in the name of Jesus in your office, why not tell them you also want to pray in the name of Allah? There is hardly any office or public place you don't have a kind of mosque here in Nigeria where muslim say there daily prayers but you don't find christians go complaining about that, so whats your stress? The muslims in my own office have created a spot for themselves where they go to pray and all christians in my office have respected that spot and none of us even ventures near there. Why should the sticker I put on my car offend you? Is it not my car? Saying you leave in Lagos, I wander how come youve never noticed all the NASFAT stickers muslims put on their cars. Why should christians complain about that?
I am a northern christian and have leaved all my life in the north and only just moved down to lagos in 2004, so don't come here talking about discretion in muslim worship in the north cause that is a bogus claim as far as we both know.
On the sharia issue. I can never grudge a muslim for practising sharia cause that should be his/her way of life. But it is been forced on non-muslims whether you want to admit it or not. And as per your comments on fornication, prostitution, alchoholism and the rest, don't even go there cause that wont be plesant for anyone. Christianity does not encourage any of those things and muslims are not free from those vices either, sharia or not.
I never knew it was a religious war that would end the world. So is that the whole aim of all the retaliation? To end the world?
nferyn (m)
Re: The Prophet Muhammad Cartoons
« #117 on: February 17, 2006, 11:27 AM »

Quote from: zarah on February 17, 2006, 10:46 AM
if you ask me, the world is free that is why we have freedom of speech, press, expression and watever, well terrorism in itself is a freedom of expression and if you express your right of freedom by vulgar cartoons why should i not express mine by killing you. i see that almost all the views here are by christians, its no wonder and in as much as you would want to think you are being fair, the hatred for muslims in your tones are obvious.
The right of your fist ends where my face begins. Calling terrorism a freedom of expression is perverse. Freedom of speech is an essential right, even though people may be offended by it. Only through freedom of expression and ideas does society improve. Putting that on the same level as killing people is morally despicable.

Quote from: zarah on February 17, 2006, 10:46 AM
Well christians think religion and modernisation are inseperable, and am sorry to say they have no respect for their god, so why should they respect any others? i hear expressions like jesus fucking christ, not even if jesus was here, jesus has no father so therefore he is a bastard and so on and so forth, well muslims respect their religion and their god alot, this things are unacceptable.
On what grounds do you claim that any religion deserves respect? Respect is something that is people get by showing that they are exceptional in their actions. Respect must be earned. Religion does not deserve respect, people deserve (or don't deserve) respect.

Quote from: zarah on February 17, 2006, 10:46 AM
i have never critisized jesus because i believe in him as one of the prophets of allah, so you have no right to play with my religion if even i don't.
Methodical criticism is the way to further our knowledge of the Cosmos. Every idea, thought or person should be open to criticism.
The words of the famous French mathematician Henri Poincaré are very applicable here:
Thinking must never submit itself, neither to a dogma, nor to a party, nor to a passion, nor to an interest, nor to a preconceived idea, nor to whatever it may be, if not to facts themselves, because, for it, to submit would be to cease to be

Quote from: zarah on February 17, 2006, 10:46 AM
yes sharia is a way of life agreable to the muslims why shouldnt they live it, you can live your life of fornication, alcoholism and prostitution but i don't have to encourage it, afterall am not forcing myne on you, i live in lagos and hardly will you see a car without one jesus sticker or the other , in my office they pray to jesus in our general meetings, and they throw jesus in my face and breath it down my neck all the time but yet it is me who is the terrorist because i don't worship and dance and sing like they do.
How do you think it feels to be a Christian in e.g. Syria? Very similar to what you're experiencing. The proselitic nature of religion, be it Islam or Christianity, is annoying to say the least. I do agree that people that claim that Islam is uniquely capable of encouraging terrorism are dishonest, Christianity and Judaism are just as bad. I am still to see the first Buddhist or Shinto terrorist.

Quote from: zarah on February 17, 2006, 10:46 AM
nobody in the north will try to opress you with religion because muslims worship discreetly, they don't sing and dance and disturb. the only day you may feel its presence is for an hour on friday, or on eid days and that is  the only congregation you see. and yet muslims are forcing sharia on you. simply because they say if you want to drink, fornicate or whatever do it without witnesses if you must. na wa sha. as if christianity allows that.
Turning religious commandments into law is wrong. If you are born in a Muslim household, you are considered Muslim according to Sharia and you are subject to it, even though you are personally an atheist. Where's the justice in that? I should even be put to death because I'm not even a Dhimmi? Where's the justice in that?

Quote from: zarah on February 17, 2006, 10:46 AM
but truth is if you don't learn to respect what you worship, and start to respect others and stop critisizing others, well its in the QUR"AAN that its a religious war that will end the world, so lets just end it.
Unfortunately religions cause a lot of violence in the world. I will quote Stephen Weinberg again:
With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.
abeleon (m)
Re: The Prophet Muhammad Cartoons
« #118 on: February 17, 2006, 07:07 PM »

wow, deep! i find all these profoundly deep!
Idekeson (m)
Re: The Prophet Muhammad Cartoons
« #119 on: February 17, 2006, 07:17 PM »

Brothers and sisters in peace. Never show weakness in the face of threat of violence or you shall be forever subjugated. This is the new world order since 9/11. That was the response in Abia state a few years back when religious zealots in the north reared their ugly heads. Always advocate peace and love but never abandon your values for fear of violence.
luridguy (m)
Re: The Prophet Muhammad Cartoons
« #120 on: February 17, 2006, 08:59 PM »

if every religon reacted the way muslims react to things said about their God then the world will be full of religious violence in every corner thou the cartoons are some what insultive but killing people will not solve anything and if the islamic body cannot come together and put and end to this divisoin it will go to far
sapereaude
Re: The Prophet Muhammad Cartoons
« #121 on: February 19, 2006, 09:17 PM »

i'm glad we, the humanity, have reached this level of moronity. from jesus asking that everyone who doesn't believe in himself and his god should be brought in front of him and slayed, to the lunatics pat  robertson and fartwell, to the crazy ayatollahs who's main hobbies is to issue fatwas (sugestion to robertson,  patwas, !) prove that lunacy, ignorance, and delusions are running the show.next scenario, iran gets nuclear bomb, israel (usa) bomb them to smitterines, the rest of muslim world gets nuts (even more, ??) and start blowing themselves up (great incentive, virgins, probably 9 years old the way sharia provides; by the way, what a woman suicidal moron will get, 72 virgin boys, hm, kinky!), the christian lunatics (for the privilege to sing hymns for eternity to a full of, sh, sorry, vanity god) will blow themselves up, finally a clean earth. please blow all of you up, please,please, !
luridguy (m)
Re: The Prophet Muhammad Cartoons
« #122 on: February 20, 2006, 12:04 AM »

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luridguy (m)
Re: The Prophet Muhammad Cartoons
« #123 on: February 20, 2006, 12:07 AM »

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Quote from: sapereaude on February 19, 2006, 09:17 PM
i'm glad we, the humanity, have reached this level of moronity. from jesus asking that everyone who doesn't believe in himself and his god should be brought in front of him and slayed, to the lunatics pat robertson and fartwell, to the crazy ayatollahs who's main hobbies is to issue fatwas (sugestion to robertson, patwas, !) prove that lunacy, ignorance, and delusions are running the show.next scenario, iran gets nuclear bomb, israel (usa) bomb them to smitterines, the rest of muslim world gets nuts (even more, ??) and start blowing themselves up (great incentive, virgins, probably 9 years old the way sharia provides; by the way, what a woman suicidal moron will get, 72 virgin boys, hm, kinky!), the christian lunatics (for the privilege to sing hymns for eternity to a full of, sh, sorry, vanity god) will blow themselves up, finally a clean earth. please blow all of you up, please,please, !

wetin he dey talk sef Huh
nikinash (f)
Re: The Prophet Muhammad Cartoons
« #124 on: February 20, 2006, 11:24 AM »

it is very wrong to kill people in the name of any religious persuasion. it is horrid. i condemn very strongly the reaction of the northern muslims to the mohammed cartoons. in the first place the arab nations were the ones who drew the attention of the world to the cartoons because the paper that published it was an hitherto unknown entity but since all the hulabaloo, everyone who can read or browse the web has become aware of it. i also cannot help but wonder why every little thing gets the muslim world so worked up, can't they just allow their "god" to fight for himself, execpt they are saying he has no power. there is no gainsaying the fact that islam tends towards terrorism by all this display of unwarranted violence. and one thing that makes me wonder is in those predominantly islamic nations who gets killed during ll the riots? isn't it the arabs themselves?
Olu Abuja (m)
Re: The Prophet Muhammad Cartoons
« #125 on: February 20, 2006, 05:11 PM »

Well, 58 Christians just got killed in maiduguri on Saturday because of the cartoon story Sad

Read it here: http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-7143.0.html
nikinash (f)
Re: The Prophet Muhammad Cartoons
« #126 on: February 20, 2006, 05:17 PM »

which just makes it worse. i mean what did the christians in maiduguri have to with the cartoons? its just sickening.
collynzo (m)
Re: The Prophet Muhammad Cartoons
« #127 on: February 20, 2006, 07:49 PM »

 Why are they fighting for muhammad or did he ever tell them he is angry about the cartoon thing? Muslims like making something out of nothing.They kill for any little thing.God will forgive these blood tasty religious fanatics
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