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slazzy (m)
Re: Companies That Demand 2.1's Are Limiting Themselves
« #32 on: June 28, 2007, 03:56 PM »

All i'm gonna say for now is that 2.1 or first class is good because it gives you an edge over others. If you're sent to the university then you should work hard to do your parents (sponsor) proud by coming out with nice grades. The truth is if for instance a first class graduate and a third class graduate apply for the same job the first class graduate obviously has more chances of getting d job. My advice to everyone is this, whether you graduated with a first, 2.1 or third class, try and equip yourself with certifications, maybe masters degree and all that to make yourself marketable in the labour market. Try and add something to your first, 2.1, 2.2 or third class. Some people who graduated with 2.2 are doing better than the so-called first class graduates, some people without university education are making alot more money than the professors.
sukieboy (m)
Re: Companies That Demand 2.1's Are Limiting Themselves
« #33 on: June 28, 2007, 04:11 PM »

My dear Brodas and sis,
The problem actually is our system. The Nigerian system celebrates certificates and not hardwork and creativity.
1st class and 2 1 get the plum jobs and waste away in Banks and Oil companies. Wealth gets into their heads and suddenly the once very vibrant guys become dummies and fashion mistakes.

In developed economies they go into research and factory lines to bring out good products.
Generally graduates in Nigeria don't aspire for their own development, Poverty  drives them to quick CASH.
so what happens?
Technicians and craftmen all over the world become supervising engineers in Nigeria and our Bridges and road?
So, to me , grades doesn't matter. TEST THE DUDES MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Olufidu (m)
Re: Companies That Demand 2.1's Are Limiting Themselves
« #34 on: June 29, 2007, 09:00 PM »

Great tread!

hmmm!

academic intelligence = 1st calss & 2.1
academic "averagees" = 2.2 & 3
academic disaster = pass & drop out
financial intelligence = synergy(Accounting, HR, Maketing, Sale & admin)
financial intelligence = financial freedom
since, academic intelligence, academic "averagees" and academic disaster <>financial intelligence
therefore, 1st class & 2.1, 2.2 & 3 and pass & drop out < > financial freedom
but academic *.* + financial intelligence = financial freedom
Conclusion:
Add "financial intelligence" to WHATEVER grade you have and you get FINANCIAL FREEDOM.           Q.E.D.  Cool Cool Cool
Dasuma (m)
Re: Companies That Demand 2.1's Are Limiting Themselves
« #35 on: July 05, 2007, 11:49 PM »

BROS'S & SIS'S, I THINK WE SHOULD ALL CHANNEL OUR THOUGHTS & ENERGIES TO SOMETHING MORE MEANINGFUL. I MEAN START THINKING OF MAKING IT ON your OWN, IS NOT EASY BUT IS VERY POSSIBLE. I GRADUATED WITH A 4.38 CGPA AND BELIEVE ME, NEVER DREAMED OF WORKING FOR ANY1. CURRENTLY, I AM MY MD/CEO, GIVE MY ORDERS, GIVE MY BREAKS, APPROVE MY PROJECTS AND AM CONTENDED B/C I BELIEVE DAT I AM TOO INTELLIGENT TO WORK FOR OTHERS RATHER 4 MYSELF. D PROBLEM WIT MOST OF US IS DAT WE ARE EAGER 2 MAKE IT IN LYF IN D SHORTEST POSSIBLE TYM FORGETING DAT EASY COME, EASY GO & LESS VALUE. AS 4 D COY'S, I DON'T BLAME THEM.
BIKINI (f)
Re: Companies That Demand 2.1's Are Limiting Themselves
« #36 on: July 08, 2007, 03:52 PM »

this 2.1 /2.2 brouhaha is jus too much . can we just allow it rest?
if some one goes to school and gets a certain grade that is a manifestation of that pesons ability at that particular time he /she was tested.
     true they say exams are't the true test of ones knowlegde but it is still the yard stick & we just have to accept it.
oneof my pals made d 3.45 kind fo 2.2, bitter as she was, she did not start brooding .she currently works in a highly reputable firm where she had to beat two 2.1 graduaates and a first class grad

   do u know wat she did ? she sat up ., made up for the lost time and startd give " upper -cuts "   intelligence wise .   she expanded her research scope and while i was 2 home eating and growing lazy, . cos i thot i was now time to relax, she got her self a plum job and challenged me to get ma butts up.
    the point am trying to make here is that instead of dissing any grade we all shuld try and work on our self . find out your weak points , work on them .
   and develope your strengths .
   the result can carry u thru the door but u still have to have something upstairs to present.
   4 me i don' t like categorising any 1so i wont' agree dat"coys that demand 2.1 are limiting them selves"  .
stop dissing 2.1 grad, some ( me number one ) worked , toiled ,  and burnt d midnightoil 4 my  result . i don't diss first classers cos that wuld be some sort of inverted snobbery don't u think?



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Nairalanders ! iust love this family so much!
davidylan (m)
Re: Companies That Demand 2.1's Are Limiting Themselves
« #37 on: July 08, 2007, 04:06 PM »

@ bikini, thank you o jare. We need more sensible people like you to talk some sense into this guys here who enjoy exposing their inferiority complex.
Pain
Re: Companies That Demand 2.1's Are Limiting Themselves
« #38 on: July 09, 2007, 03:04 AM »

If You Feel Limited or Boxed In By Lower Grades, The Best Thing To Do Is To Upgrade Yourself. Its Not Too Late.

But If You Go Brooding It Will Be Too Late Soon. You Can Add Value To Yourself By A Postgraduate Degree or Additional Certifications.

The World Has Set A Standard.

If You Cant Conform To It, Then You Have To Set Your Own Standard. The Option Is To End Up As An Entrepreneur.

But The Truth Is This:

There Is No Easy Way Way Out. The Only Gateway Is The Gateway Of HARDWORK.

Even Militants And Kidnappers Have To Work Hard And Take Risks To Be Successful "EvilPreneurs"
davidylan (m)
Re: Companies That Demand 2.1's Are Limiting Themselves
« #39 on: July 09, 2007, 03:09 AM »

Quote from: Pain on July 09, 2007, 03:04 AM
There Is No Easy Way Way Out. The Only Gateway Is The Gateway Of HARDWORK.

Even Militants And Kidnappers Have To Work Hard And Take Risks To Be Successful "EvilPreneurs"

thank you o jare. People dont realise that not everyone can be a militant or armed robber. You need a first class in criminology!  Grin
Pain
Re: Companies That Demand 2.1's Are Limiting Themselves
« #40 on: July 09, 2007, 03:16 AM »

Even Coup Plotters.

Major Saliba Mukoro of the  April 22, 1990 coup "Orkar Coup" Had A Masters Degree In Criminology & A PhD. In Criminal Justice!!

HARDWORKING COMBATANT!!!
Icon4s (f)
Re: Companies That Demand 2.1's Are Limiting Themselves
« #41 on: August 28, 2007, 05:57 PM »

[b]This thread should serve as an eye opener for those that are still in school.[/b] Shocked
sukieboy (m)
Re: Companies That Demand 2.1's Are Limiting Themselves
« #42 on: December 31, 2007, 01:19 PM »

Well
Quote from: BIKINI on July 08, 2007, 03:52 PM
this 2.1 /2.2 brouhaha is jus too much . can we just allow it rest?
 if some one goes to school and gets a certain grade that is a manifestation of that pesons ability at that particular time he /she was tested.
 true they say exams are't the true test of ones knowlegde but it is still the yard stick & we just have to accept it.
 oneof my pals made d 3.45 kind fo 2.2, bitter as she was, she did not start brooding .she currently works in a highly reputable firm where she had to beat two 2.1 graduaates and a first class grad

 do u know what she did ? she sat up ., made up for the lost time and startd give " upper -cuts " intelligence wise . she expanded her research scope and while i was 2 home eating and growing lazy, . because i thot i was now time to relax, she got her self a plum job and challenged me to get ma butts up.
 the point am trying to make here is that instead of dissing any grade we all shuld try and work on our self . find out your weak points , work on them .
 and develope your strengths .
 the result can carry u through the door but u still have to have something upstairs to present.
 4 me i don' t like categorising any 1so i wont' agree that"coys that demand 2.1 are limiting them selves" .
stop dissing 2.1 grad, some ( me number one ) worked , toiled , and burnt d midnightoil 4 my result . i don't diss first classers because that wuld be some sort of inverted snobbery don't u think?



one love

Nairalanders ! iust love this family so much!


Haahahahahahaha

I can see why the guys below your so called standards are brooding. I think this thread has really shown m,e why Africa is where its is. We only think of what we can eat and sleep.
Look my dear brothers and sisters, the issue of grades has been so magniied here in Nigeria that we have completely lost the real essence of education.
I made 2.1 bu have never seen it as hardwork or an achievement as some folks have made it look like here on this thread.

I have had the opportunity of interacting with young Europeans and Asians, they talk technology, creativity, production and growth. Not I graduated with this or dat.

I have never heard of a 1st class grad author, I only hear of 1st class authors meaning the working is more important than the grade.

hardwork?
 memorizing loads of handout?
It kills the creative potentials of the person involved.

I used to do that and thast why I hte my days in school. Even My Profs then, I now discover that they were very lazy pple who refused to open their minds to development.
sharp man (m)
Re: Companies That Demand 2.1's Are Limiting Themselves
« #43 on: December 31, 2007, 04:10 PM »

I have been trying to ignore this thread but i think its time i contribute.

Now before i start, i will like to let you know where i am coming from.

I currently have 2 degrees, the first happens to be a 3rd class and the second a 1st class.

I got into the university believing i was a good student that did not need too much effort to excell in my studies so what did i do; i missed lectures, stayed off campus, did not study for exams until about a week or 2 to the exams, made friends with lay abouts, the list is endless. What was the result? 2 extra years and and a 3rd class degree.

I felt so bad because i knew i was sharp but i had to prove it. I registered for a professional exam that also offered a BSc with their package. I read like a mad man. I never missed one lecture, started preparing for the exams months before the date of exams, read my study texts back to back, practised all available past questions, moved with the people i identified as being top fliers, etc. The result? I never failed any paper. I was a top scorer (average exam scores of of about 73), to crown it all up, i was awarded a First class in the BSc degree.

My point is that everyone that left school with any grade deserved it, be it a 1st, 2.1, 2.2, or 3rd. (of course there can be very few exceptions)

If you believe you could have done better then you need to prove it.

Employers have a right to decide their entry criteria and they have good reasons for it. If you no like am go start your own company.

Lets learn to take responsibility for our own mistakes.
oldie (m)
Re: Companies That Demand 2.1's Are Limiting Themselves
« #44 on: January 01, 2008, 12:14 PM »

Quote from: sharp man on December 31, 2007, 04:10 PM
Lets learn to take responsibility for our own mistakes.

Well said!
We blame everybody except ourselves for our failures.
There is no shortcut for hardwork
AjanleKoko
Re: Companies That Demand 2.1's Are Limiting Themselves
« #45 on: March 24, 2009, 11:13 AM »

I think everybody is right in their own way, even the companies asking for 2.1 are also right to ask for 2.1.
What a lot of people don't get is that the companies are just trying to apply a sieve, the same way the universities require 5 credits in various disciplines, or a particular JAMB score (or maybe if you're part of this current generation a post-UME score!).
They actually cannot hire anybody, and they don't want to administer IQ tests to determine who's intelligent and who is not. So the benchmark is the class of degree.
One thing is, these companies are in the minority, really. Oil companies, a few banks, and consulting firms. But even if you no get 2.1, they also take 2.2 candidates with a masters degree. So, if those are the places you really wanna work, go do a masters degree. Abi?
I like that poster who said you don't hear of 1st class graduate authors, but first class authors. To support that, from my own work experience, I find that 1st class or 2.1s in the work environment in Nigeria behave like they are members of one elite cult. That eventually produces negatives like zero team spirit and effectiveness which comes from collaboration. They also act like they need to 'beat everybody else' in the work environment, eventually creating an unhealthy work culture.
Happily, I don't work in a '2.1 only' environment, since I made a 2.2 at Bsc level. So I don't need to worry about all these things. Also, I know what I want to do with my life, and class of degree doesn't come into play at all. It's up to you at the end of the day.
Peace.
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