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honeyzz (f)
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well i thinks that the real solution to this prolem would be nigerians livin in the uk takin the time out ot explain that life aint that easy.it really isnt.in the uk there is absolutely nobody to run to for any help.i think am really spoilt here collecting my salary,living at home for free,even eating breakfast and sometimes dinner for free a when am even broke my dad chips in.i think most of them in the in the uk do not have that luxury,if u are livin at homw sef u go chip in for rent sometimes abi u wan kill ur papa.its really HARD For them.i remember a friend telling me all she had to pay for and i really felt sorry for her.Its really hard i know but i think theres a good side to this,it makes u grow up and makes u more responsible in the long run.in naija i know 30 year old guys who are earning well and would still want to live at home rent free.all in all people in naija should learn to be sensitive to those living in the uk and those in the uk should understand that not all those in naija are beggars.
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Siena (m)
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@ Honeyzz: Well summed up, you're an absolute star!  And, welcome aboard!  |
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luka
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Well I guess the soluion to the problem lies innate in us as Nigerians, irrespectve of the fact of where we live.
Nigerians always expect something in return for a service rendered (to be truthhful myself inclusive) whether that service is what they are paid for or not.
You enter an eatery for your lunch when leaving the doorman expects a tip if you don't give you are stingy.
You buy fuel regularly from a filling station and you can't for once leave a change of 20 naira you are stingy.
The worst of all is in your office where the cleaners, security guards or those that provide ancillary service expect something every friday for weekend, if you don't give you are stingy.
Now to the one that concerns me you go the extra mile to satisfy a customer than December comes or any other opportunity comes you expect something from them. If they don't give they are stingy.
No one owes anybody anything and we shouldn't look up to anybody for anything(apart from students that have sponsors). The only people that owe anybody anything is your employer.
Everbody decides how to spend his/her income. Those in Uk can't because of pleasing a secondary school friend spend more on communication when they have pressing needs.
I for one will never be angry if you don't give me fish to eat, I only will if you don't teach me how to catch fish.
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Elgaxton (m)
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, LOL I'm not in the groove of asking people for cash Jare, just that The mentality of oour bros and sis gets me scared and, I'm a big boy on my own so I don't go about asking people for cash but about there own welfare By the way chocolate groove was a long time ago, some four years ago so this thread aint about that! |
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Elgaxton (m)
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all in all people in naija should learn to be sensitive to those living in the uk and those in the uk should understand that not all those in naija are beggars.
all those in naija are not beggarsWell said honey, Y person go carry half a million or there about travel come dey complain, them for just stay naija enjoy business! |
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Panache (m)
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I don't know where people get this idea from but life is not easy anywhere. On a funny note (true story), a custom lady was mad at me the last time I passed through MMA, we had a heated debate on tip and I was shocked when she look me from head to toe and shoute "Oga, no be Europe you dey live now!".
How do you survive with 50 cousins calling you asking from their share. I thought my sister a big life lesson last month. I sponspored her to the UK for 3 month just to see how people hustle to survive. She left after a month and promised to take her naija bank job serious. Life is not always greener on the other side.
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Elgaxton (m)
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I don't know where people get this idea from but life is not easy anywhere. On a funny note (true stry), a custom lady was mad at me the last time I passed through MMA, we had a heated debate on tip and I was shocked when she look me from head to toe and shoute "Oga, no be Europe you dey live now!".
How do you survive with 50 cousins calling you asking from their share. I though my sister a big life lesson just like month. I sponspored her to the UK for 3 month just to see how people hustle to survive. She left after a month and promised to take her naija bank job serious. Life is not always greener on the other side.[b][/b][i][/i]
Some people will still read this ur post and carry their big head to UK!!! to go and hustle Oh how that word pisses me off |
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blue-sky (f)
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yes nigerians in the UK are stingy
If this annoys u so much, don't call them no more. I'm sure they have forgotten all bout u anyways.
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FemiD (m)
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Intersting thread.
I really will like to agree a bit with the notion of the poster (based on popular sentiments alone) but the truth is that I really haven't asked anybody (except my uncle) for anything and I really won't be able to judge anyone as stingy or not. At the time I asked my uncle (very close uncle), the idea was that he should get me a laptop probably one that he is not using anymore for my project. He replied and confirmed he was in a position to get me a new one as it wasn't really expensive getting it from there but that was the best I heard from him. The rest were stories: it's either he is having a problem shipping it, or he has some other things he will be shipping in and I should expect it soon or his friend should be coming home soon,
Anyway, I have since learnt my lessons - it's been almost a decade now and I can tell you the laptop has cease to be an issue to me. As a matter of fact I think I can even afford to buy for people (don't mind me on this one, just bragging). More importantly, I did my project then without my own personal computer and it was still one of the best. Since then, whenever i feel the urge to ask for a thing, what comes to my mind is that if I can get by my project without my uncle's laptop, I can get by without begging anybody irrespective of where you abode (uk, usa or even mars).
As for friends, when my friends step out of the country they are out for good. I don't need their calls, what for? Let them be o jare. Except for emails, I don't even ask them for their phone numbers, I only have their numbers when they deem it fit. & Why will I beg from my friend who we were probably brought into this world about the same time - does he have two heads? I am sure the reasons why some uk people have been running their mouth without caution is not unconnected with the opprobrious manner some native nigerians present themselves. I give my friends a challenge anytime they come around so much so that some wish they can stay back.
Let them keep getting stingy, na them sabi
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nurexg (m)
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Abeg, Who said Nigeria people are beggars, hmmmmmmmmmmmmm if i here that again from some one i go make sure i trace him family and deport them go LONDON.  infact most of those guys here Talking about nija this and that, are not true son and daugther of nija.  to you tell Nigeria is rich, and for those guys in london NIGERIANS ARE NOT BEGGERS I am a true son of Nigeria even though i am currently not living there but, i make sure i call my friends over there. there is no big deal in calling your friend over there at Nigeria, or do you want to tell that it is only in london that every thing is time. Mind you i have a friend at london (central london) i ways call him but, funny enougth he call but not always, he alway complaine is and that. so to my Good People at nija if you want to travell abroad plz don't try LONDON okay unless officially. other wise you will join there league so try somewere else.  |
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kitaun (m)
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@Honeyzz very well said!!! there should be a line, a divide at that determining who and who you are responsible to, and also that people on the two different sides need to be understanding and show some compassion;  The receiver should be patient; whilst the giver should learn to communicate what their challenges are to their people and not necessarily see them as leeches  |
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Elgaxton (m)
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yes nigerians in the UK are stingy
If this annoys u so much, don't call them no more. I'm sure they have forgotten all bout u anyways.
All this people wey go London go park shit, allow me hear word, Hustler like u!! |
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Jackal (m)
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@Elgaxton,
We are trying to have a decent discussion here and not INSULTS.
What business of it is yours if someone packs shiiiiit?
C'mon, look beyond your nose and contribute something constructive.
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omoge (f)
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i think they do. it's just persistent you know. my classmate (married) and in Graduate school was just gisting me the headache she is facing from both side. last month she said she sent some money to both her mother and hubby's mother. she had saved that money to do her hair, thinking it will be enough for 3months hairdos. right now she is trying to cut off her hair no money for it, couple with she is a student. just last week her brother came back from another african country, where he has soujourned for more than four years and now asking for money to go back to school. he is over 30years old. her sister is looking for a shop and asking for money 90k, the other sister is in college and asking for money(didn't say exactly but that sister, am about to leave for school), she just sent in money to take care of the family rent. on the hubby side, same story. brother is getting married and want money. the other one ask for money just to upgrade his store and pay for his children school fees. another extended family is asking for money to learn a trade. asked for 50k for the trade. the mother is sick and need care. the sister need help and asking that he call them. now she is soooo tired she was telling me and i just felt pity for her. So you see?? now her own friends in Nigeria are asking too so is her hubby's lol. na wah oooo.  make una stop am ooo . make una no use depression kill una siblings and friends now. who go give bread then eh? |
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tboy1 (m)
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@jackal
the dude "Elgaxton" started the whole thread, so he's kind of still pissed off
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cyl (f)
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I think the reason nigerians in the UK appear stingy is that they pay tax heavily.Not saying those in the US and Europe do not,only that in the UK,to evade tax payment is tantamount to a jail term while elsewhere,its not as heavy and its evadable(if u know what i mean).
No need judging them,just call them if u can and if not,pray for them and face your own life, someday,you'll all come together with interesting stories to share with each other.
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soulpatrol (f)
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@elgaxton, naa bros you still dey vex ahhhh. you seem to be looking at it through black and white. sometimes you don't know people's situations. its not just about going abroad and hustling, being abroad teaches you valuable life lessons, what to do when you find yourself in certain situations. i came here in my early 20s and because of the things i've seen, experiences i've gone through, i've had to grow up so fast and think like a 50 year old. its not easy at all. we care about our people back home, but the situations we face are just too crippling. and the reason we push ourselves to work to the bones is because we know where we're going and what we want to achieve. why do you think there are so many successful nigerians in hollywood etc? na by hard work and perseverance.
so don't be too hard on them, please.
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Zandra1 (f)
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The post about the dog that works to help the owner make ends meet was just too funny to be ignored. I laughed so much I thought I would never stop laughing. I imagine how sad the dog will be waiting for his 8 or 12 or even 16 hour shift to end so he could sit or go home and sleep so as to get ready for the next day. Oh my! . Hahahahahahaha. Lord help me cause I can't stop laughing whenever I remember the story. Poor ol' dog. |
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Elgaxton (m)
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@Jackal!
don't mind my primitive outburst,
She was just too sarcastic.
@Omoge
That's all u've said about this topic, If u beg people money, well I am not in that League, I've explained my reason for this
thread but u no go hear!
@soul Patrol
Thanks!
My point is simply the mentality behind their not giving and that is "Money is hard over here"
Fine we all know european countries are kind of expensive but any man who wants to succeed should have the right
mentality towards making money and not the Lack Mentality!!
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babyosisi (f)
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i think they do. it's just persistent you know. my classmate (married) and in Graduate school was just gisting me the headache she is facing from both side. last month she said she sent some money to both her mother and hubby's mother. she had saved that money to do her hair, thinking it will be enough for 3months hairdos. right now she is trying to cut off her hair no money for it, couple with she is a student. just last week her brother came back from another african country, where he has soujourned for more than four years and now asking for money to go back to school. he is over 30years old. her sister is looking for a shop and asking for money 90k, the other sister is in college and asking for money(didn't say exactly but that sister, am about to leave for school), she just sent in money to take care of the family rent. on the hubby side, same story. brother is getting married and want money. the other one ask for money just to upgrade his store and pay for his children school fees. another extended family is asking for money to learn a trade. asked for 50k for the trade. the mother is sick and need care. the sister need help and asking that he call them. now she is soooo tired she was telling me and i just felt pity for her. So you see?? now her own friends in Nigeria are asking too so is her hubby's lol. na wah oooo. make una stop am ooo . make una no use depression kill una siblings and friends now. who go give bread then eh? Tell your friend to screen her calls well well before answering "hello". If you know the number of Nigerians abroad dropping dead suddenly you'll understand what I mean. I simply will not answer,the pressure from loved ones can be overbearing. If a man finds a wife and expects me to pay for the wedding,he must be dreaming,the most I can give is a wedding gift not sponsoring a wedding,what nonsense! Like someone said earlier,Those of us here ought to make it clear to our relatives at home that we are also struggling like they are. We don't do our hair weekly,have 3 cellphones and shop at designer stores only. I have no problem saying "NO" except to my parents who incidentally never ask for anything. |
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babyosisi (f)
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yes nigerians in the UK are stingy
If this annoys u so much, don't call them no more. I'm sure they have forgotten all bout u anyways.
until they start looking for someone to send over their transcript or someone to snoop on their intended wife |
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Elgaxton (m)
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until they start looking for someone to send over their transcript or someone to snoop on their intended wife
Thank You o!! |
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Elgaxton (m)
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I have no problem saying "NO" except to my parents who incidentally never ask for anything.
Shikina!!!(hausa) Simple smart Reply!! God bless u jare! |
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soulpatrol (f)
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@elgaxton, i see youbacktracking again o. one minute you dey sympathise, another minute you self dey join to attack. which one you dey now, bros |
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Elgaxton (m)
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@elgaxton, i see youbacktracking again o. one minute you dey sympathise, another minute you self dey join to attack. which one you dey now, bros How? I simply agree with Babyosi on her ground to say no to whoever, no be by force! |
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FemiD (m)
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@uk peeps
It will appear that most of you grew up with people who are famished, beggarly and maybe you were once doing the same but now levels have changed and you can no longer cope with their subaltern position. I wonder if you go tell every tom, privates and harry your number, i wonder how just one person will claim to receive 20 calls a day from different people, all with the intention of begging if the person was never like them (birds of a feather, , ).
Beyond my wonder, i have this to say that to some of us, travelling to uk is not really success but it will appear that all the people you seem to know sees you as a success just because you travelled to the uk. What happens to the saying that real success always have a successor, why don't you just help someone and I really mean someone and let the world around you feel your impact.
Stingy to your friends, your siblings, your parents and even yourself and you say it is not easy over here and that's why it aint really getting easy!!!
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omoge (f)
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soul, the guy just dey do one kin yes that dog posting that worked for his master sure was hilarious. but true, dog got to work and only for someone in nig to ask the lady for money, you see yes oo Osisi, it was sooo shocking and well, all i could do was listen to her and share mine because i know we all in same shoe though hers kind of worst. she told me that 2years ago, the inlaw had a girlfriend who gave birth for him and he called to inform them in UK that his girlfriend don born and asked for money by saying 'baby go chop' lol. Her hubby was trying to put money together and she was so mad that he had to drop the idea. that was 2years ago. now he is getting married and asking for money from his sibling in UK. abegi o. Note: my friend allowed me to share her story. i told her i will pass along advice. so am going to post the url to her, thanks for your idea you just have to sit with your friends over coffee or a meal and hear funny thing |
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omoge (f)
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i am very sure people abroad help a great deal (i have to use myself to measure others that they help). the point is the DEMAND is just tooooooooo much. If you do for this person, they will hear and pester you. the thing here is not the asking but the asking don pass power and our friend dey complain say his friend no return his call, friend wey don run for cover |
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Elgaxton (m)
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i am very sure people abroad help a great deal (i have to use myself to measure others that they help). the point is the DEMAND is just tooooooooo much. If you do for this person, they will hear and pester you. the thing here is not the asking but the asking don pass power and our friend dey complain say his friend no return his call, friend wey don run for cover I no know wetin u dey talk o Omoge, I said i no disturb person o! You no dey hear that one @ all. Although monkey must answer him name now! |
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