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I-man (m)
Nigerian Refugee Elected Mayor In Ireland
« on: June 29, 2007, 01:59 AM »

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/6251094.stm

A Nigerian man who arrived in Ireland as an asylum seeker seven years ago has become the country's first black mayor.
Rotimi Adebari has been elected as first citizen of Portlaoise in County Laois.
The 43-year-old fled from Nigeria in 2000 because of religious persecution. After a few weeks, he and his family settled in the County Laois town.
In 2004, he was elected in the local elections as an independent councillor and on Thursday he became mayor.


The move was the result of a voting pact between Fine Gael, Sinn Fein and independent councillors.
The father-of-four has completed a masters degree in intercultural studies at Dublin City University and now works for Laois County Council, co-ordinating an integration project for local immigrants.
Mr Adebari said it was a great honour to become Portlaoise's first citizen, but that praise should be given to the people who elected him three years ago.

"Ireland is really changing. The immigrant community in the town has been growing, especially since the accession countries joined the European Union on enlargement in 2004," he said.
However, he added: "That is not to say that I did not have my own share of the prejudice that would be out there against maybe Nigerians, or immigrants or asylum seekers."

"But I don't let the attitude of a very small minority over-shadow the fact that the people are wonderful."
I-man (m)
Re: Nigerian Refugee Elected Mayor In Ireland
« #1 on: June 29, 2007, 02:00 AM »

I wonder what kind of religious persecution he was fleeing from.I don't think he is from Northern Nigeria
Dis Guy
Re: Nigerian Refugee Elected Mayor In Ireland
« #2 on: June 29, 2007, 02:05 AM »

he might be a resident of northern nigeria  Undecided
davidylan (m)
Re: Nigerian Refugee Elected Mayor In Ireland
« #3 on: June 29, 2007, 02:05 AM »

Quote from: I-man on June 29, 2007, 01:59 AM
The 43-year-old fled from Nigeria in 2000 because of religious persecution. After a few weeks, he and his family settled in the County Laois town.
In 2004, he was elected in the local elections as an independent councillor and on Thursday he became mayor.


 Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Religious persecution in the yr of our Lord 2000? Was i not in the same country?
davidylan (m)
Re: Nigerian Refugee Elected Mayor In Ireland
« #4 on: June 29, 2007, 02:06 AM »

kai Mr. Adebari you are a liar sir!
I-man (m)
Re: Nigerian Refugee Elected Mayor In Ireland
« #5 on: June 29, 2007, 02:13 AM »

Quote from: this Guy on June 29, 2007, 02:05 AM
he might be a resident of northern nigeria  Undecided

He could have just relocated to the South.He didn't have to fly all the way to Ireland  Grin

debosky (m)
Re: Nigerian Refugee Elected Mayor In Ireland
« #6 on: June 29, 2007, 02:18 AM »

maybe he's a scientologist or a buddihst  Grin Grin

or a patron of the Okija shrine  Cheesy
n-guage (m)
Re: Nigerian Refugee Elected Mayor In Ireland
« #7 on: June 29, 2007, 02:28 AM »

DAMN. Africans doing everything to be citizens,
McKren (m)
Re: Nigerian Refugee Elected Mayor In Ireland
« #8 on: June 29, 2007, 02:57 AM »

For me what to look at is not the sincerity of Rotimi, I think we need time to reflect on who we are.
Would it have been possible to tell such lie in an assylum claim if we had a more secular Nigeria?Huh?

We have seeen people murdered in cold blood on Religous grounds over cartoons in Denmark, we have even seen religous unrests because of politics of middle east. Why will a Nation with such reputation not have its National able to claim assylum on Religous grounds???

We have allowed two borrowed Religions to divide us because we seem to want to practice these religions more than the originators.

May be we should ask ourselves, are aspects of our constitution which uphold secularity implemented enough?Huh?
davidylan (m)
Re: Nigerian Refugee Elected Mayor In Ireland
« #9 on: June 29, 2007, 03:03 AM »

McKren. . .

Please lets not play PC here. Islam is the REAL and ONLY problem especially in northern Nigeria. The religious crisis has NOTHING to do with christianity at all. Unless of course you want to produce evidence of riots and killings in the name of Jesus.

The religious crisis is not even the problem, most likely mr. Adebari's REAL problem was economic in nature. It is unlikely that he was based in the north. Excusing the problem of pockets of religious crisis here and there, Abuja is less than 5 hrs drive away from most northern states. What about the southern states?
I was a student in Nigeria in 2000 and i can't remember anytime anyone was persecuted for his religious beliefs!
degoat
Re: Nigerian Refugee Elected Mayor In Ireland
« #10 on: June 29, 2007, 03:08 AM »

First, this is a great news and I wish this man well. Hopefully he wouldn't loot the treasury and embarrass us.
It doesn't matter what brought him to Ireland. The most important thing is this man to live up to expectation and make us proud. I think he has just opened a magic door for other immigrants from Nigeria.
davidylan (m)
Re: Nigerian Refugee Elected Mayor In Ireland
« #11 on: June 29, 2007, 03:10 AM »

@ degoat,

the job of a mayor does not include the portfolio of an immigration officer. No doors are open for you o.
degoat
Re: Nigerian Refugee Elected Mayor In Ireland
« #12 on: June 29, 2007, 03:18 AM »

Open door in terms of working hard to attain your dream, I mean it isn't all about 419.
MILITIA (f)
Re: Nigerian Refugee Elected Mayor In Ireland
« #13 on: June 29, 2007, 03:21 AM »

@Topic

Congratulations oh jare!  Mr. Adebari.  Since for some reasons, you could not make it in Nigeria, you are welcome to try anywhere in the world that would give you a chance.  I praise your hard work, for I know it was not easy.  White men came with "bible" and all kinds of "goodies" to help themselves develop their countries, by looting everything in Africa and other countries around the world.  

While we are still bowing our heads and praying with closed eyes, they are still "stealing" as much as they want.  We carry the bible for head pass them kpa kpa!  So please even if it is "female circumcision of our grandmothers in the villages in Nigeria" you can use as excuse----please fire on!   I no blame you at all! Grin Some of you Nairalanders are the kinds that will accept money to call Immigration officers on your own brothers and sisters in foreign countries! Grin  Na wah for una oh!  I no mind if we fight for Nigeria amongst ourselves. But if you dey outside, make some of una take small shame unite abeg!  HABA! Shocked  Shooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
kitaun (m)
Re: Nigerian Refugee Elected Mayor In Ireland
« #14 on: June 29, 2007, 03:26 AM »

@Rotimi Adebari

u try jare Cool

from religious persecution to Mayor Cheesy

something u prolly could not have achieved here in motherlan' Shocked

but, try tell them the truth sometime later say your stoway runs na from Oluwole u take arrange am Tongue
McKren (m)
Re: Nigerian Refugee Elected Mayor In Ireland
« #15 on: June 29, 2007, 03:26 AM »

Davidylan

You know the initiators of religous unrest in Nigeria, those who granted Rotimi assylum don't know that. What they know is that Nigeria is always subseptible to religous unrest. You and I will argue that his sojourn abroad is economic not religous threat but the BBC has stated why he was granted assylum which is religous unrest.

It does not matter what you think, the truth is that it is a shame to our country that a Nigerian can be granted assylum in another country on religous grounds. Trust me Rotimi will not gain assylum on Religous grounds if he was Ghanaian or South African.

There is no need pointing fingers in any directions, Nigerians need to understand that both Islam and Christanity were borrowed and it is a shame that it threatens our peace.
Unfortunately the provisions of the constitution on Religion is not implemented in the right way, that is what I advocate for not which Religion between Islam or Christanity is more peaceful or superior.
MILITIA (f)
Re: Nigerian Refugee Elected Mayor In Ireland
« #16 on: June 29, 2007, 03:29 AM »

Quote from: degoat on June 29, 2007, 03:08 AM
First, this is a great news and I wish this man well. Hopefully he wouldn't loot the treasury and embarrass us.
It doesn't matter what brought him to Ireland. The most important thing is this man to live up to expectation and make us proud. I think he has just opened a magic door for other immigrants from Nigeria.

God bless you my brother! Grin
degoat
Re: Nigerian Refugee Elected Mayor In Ireland
« #17 on: June 29, 2007, 03:42 AM »

 Ireland gets its first black mayor
DUBLIN, Ireland - Ireland elected its first black mayor Thursday, the latest sign of how rapid immigration is changing this once all-white nation.
Rotimi Adebari, a Nigerian who arrived in Ireland seven years ago as an asylum-seeker, was elected unopposed to lead the council of Portlaoise, a bustling commuter town west of Dublin.

Adebari, 43, who has been an independent politician on Portlaoise Town Council since 2004, was backed by both the right-wing Fine Gael party and left-wing Sinn Fein.

Adebari, who planned a post-election party Friday at the new parish hall in Portlaoise, called it "a great honor to become the No. 1 citizen of the town."

Little more than a decade ago, a black person in Ireland risked being gawked at, so rare was the sight of visitors from different racial backgrounds. But Ireland has absorbed more than 30,000 asylum seekers — particularly from Africa's most populous nation, Nigeria — since the mid-1990s, a wave attracted by Ireland's booming economy and its relatively lax immigration rules.

These days, West African entrepreneurs run stretches of shops in urban Dublin and other Irish towns and cities, and social activists like Adebari are encouraging the newcomers to integrate into their communities.

"I got involved in the community and I volunteered. It gave me the opportunity to meet people firsthand and they got to know me," Adebari said. "We all have to make an effort to reach out to one another."

Adebari traveled to Ireland with his wife and two boys in 2000 and claimed asylum on the basis of religious persecution, citing bloody clashes between Christians and Muslims in his homeland. His application was rejected because of insufficient evidence he had personally suffered persecution, but he gained residency because his third child, another boy, was born in Ireland.

Asylum-seekers flocked to Ireland in part to gain European Union citizenship on the basis of having a child born in the country. Ireland in 2004 stopped granting citizenship to foreign parents of an Irish-born child, a law that had been unique in Europe.

Adebari said he had trouble finding work at first — in part because of an Irish law that bars people from working while they are seeking asylum.

So he volunteered at a local tennis club, helped found a lobbying group for unemployed people in Portlaoise and ran for office, winning a council seat on his first try in 2004.

Since then he's finished a master's degree in intercultural studies at Dublin City University, founded a consultancy advising authorities and immigrant groups on how to work together, and hosts a weekly radio show on his local station, Midlands FM.

"I want to encourage immigrants to be a force in their communities, to engage with their communities," he said. "People will get to know you. Their perception of you will change just like that. That's what happened to me."

degoat
Re: Nigerian Refugee Elected Mayor In Ireland
« #18 on: June 29, 2007, 03:44 AM »

Rotimi Adebari

Respecting Difference

Rotimi hosts a local community radio programme, called titled “Respecting Difference” on Midlands 103. The programme draws on the presenter’s experience and his election into Portlaoise Town Council to serve as an inspiration to the socially disadvantaged in the community, by engaging in discussions that motivate and offer a lift to people currently experiencing social exclusion.

Originally from Nigeria, Rotimi Adebari has lived in Portlaoise for the last 5 years. He is an elected member of Portlaoise Town Council, and has a Masters degree in Intercultural studies at Dublin City University.

He works with Dublin City University on the European Intercultural Workplace Project (EIW). He delivers training in intercultural awareness and anti-racism issues and works in association with local, regional and national groups to achieve an integrated society where everyone has a sense of belonging.

He is an elected member of the National Executive Committee of INOU – Irish National Organisation of the Unemployed, and is a director on the board of Portlaoise Community Action Project (PCAP).

Rotimi is also a founding member of Suil – An organisation that provides support for the unemployed in Laois, and a member of Laois Ethnic Minority Support Group.
davidylan (m)
Re: Nigerian Refugee Elected Mayor In Ireland
« #19 on: June 29, 2007, 03:49 AM »

Rotimi Adebari

Celebrating Illegality
MILITIA (f)
Re: Nigerian Refugee Elected Mayor In Ireland
« #20 on: June 29, 2007, 03:53 AM »

English Language in Nigeria!  Celebrating colonialism! Huh  We have a lot to celebrate as Nigerians oh! Grin
mikeansy
Re: Nigerian Refugee Elected Mayor In Ireland
« #21 on: June 29, 2007, 03:54 AM »

Quote from: davidylan on June 29, 2007, 03:49 AM
Rotimi Adebari

Celebrating Illegality


guy wetin be your problem

you dey live for naija

if it be say adebari sef dey into more legal doings than u sef  Tongue Tongue Tongue Tongue
davidylan (m)
Re: Nigerian Refugee Elected Mayor In Ireland
« #22 on: June 29, 2007, 03:56 AM »

Quote from: mikeansy on June 29, 2007, 03:54 AM
guy wetin be your problem

you dey live for naija

if it be say adebari sef dey into more legal doings than u sef  Tongue Tongue Tongue Tongue

you sef dey plan your own refugee application?  Grin Grin

Quote from: MILITIA on June 29, 2007, 03:53 AM
English Language in Nigeria! Celebrating colonialism! Huh We have a lot to celebrate as Nigerians oh! Grin

wetin concern colonialism and fraud?
MILITIA (f)
Re: Nigerian Refugee Elected Mayor In Ireland
« #23 on: June 29, 2007, 04:00 AM »

How many of us were born abroad? It will not surprise me if the ones making noise here are still "illegal aliens and Yoo-F-O"s" till now running through windows from anything that looks like or spells immigration"!  How soon we forget! Sad
MILITIA (f)
Re: Nigerian Refugee Elected Mayor In Ireland
« #24 on: June 29, 2007, 04:04 AM »

Quote from: davidylan on June 29, 2007, 03:56 AM
wetin concern colonialism and fraud?

You might not get it.  Some things are just "ways of life and by circumstances" so we have no control of them since they have become ways of our lives!  Understand?  Just making an analogy bro! Cool How do you know Mr. Adebari is a "fraud"?  With all those sporadic religious confrontations in Nigeria, is it impossible? 

When the whole world watched in horror as Abuja almost melted because a reporter referred to Prophet Muhammad in one of the Miss Universe pageants some years back.  The pageant was immediately relocated to England for safety. Have you ever lost a family member or loved one in one of those clashes?  Then you will understand it is real.  A family friend of mine was burned alive in his home in that kind of mess.  Now what will his wife and children do?  Does Nigeria have a welfare system for Women, Infants and Children? How soon we forget!
davidylan (m)
Re: Nigerian Refugee Elected Mayor In Ireland
« #25 on: June 29, 2007, 04:15 AM »

Quote from: MILITIA on June 29, 2007, 04:00 AM
How many of us were born abroad? It will not surprise me if the ones making noise here are still "illegal aliens and Yoo-F-O"s" till now running through windows from anything that looks like or spells immigration"! How soon we forget! Sad

We are not forgetting anything. How easy it is for us to rationalise illegality, fraud and violation of the law when it suits us on flawed moral grounds.
Let us ask ourselves the question, why did Ireland stop granting citizenship to illegal aliens who happen to have children there? Simple! Because many of us took advantage of their generosity, using it as a stepping stone to obtaining EU citizenship and running off to other countries.

Most of us are immigrants to foreign countries, it is not wrong. However the end should not justify the means, there are legal avenues to immigrate, as long as we don't break the law those opportunities will never go away.
We all cry today about the hardship we go through at the hands of foreign embassies in Lagos, forgetting that we are merely paying for the sins of those ahead of us who chose to abuse the system.

But for Adebari's quick thinking to have his third child in Ireland, he would have been deported long ago. Now he is the first black mayor of his town but his deciet has effectively shut the door in the faces of the many others who one day hope to cross over to where the grass is greenest.
davidylan (m)
Re: Nigerian Refugee Elected Mayor In Ireland
« #26 on: June 29, 2007, 04:21 AM »

Quote from: MILITIA on June 29, 2007, 04:04 AM
When the whole world watched in horror as Abuja almost melted because a reporter referred to Prophet Muhammad in one of the Miss Universe pageants some years back.  The pageant was immediately relocated to England for safety. Have you ever lost a family member or loved one in one of those clashes?  Then you will understand it is real.  A family friend of mine was burned alive in his home in that kind of mess.  Now what will his wife and children do?  Does Nigeria have a welfare system for Women, Infants and Children? How soon we forget!

This is not relevant unless Mr Adebari can convincingly prove that he and his family live in the northern part of Nigeria. As at 2000 i was a student in Nigeria and i find it hard to remember any case of religious crisis that would have prompted a whole family to file for refugee status in faraway Ireland.
It is clear that this is a case of a man who saw a loophole in the Irish immigration policy and chose to abuse it! Today he is reaping where he did not sow and no thanks to him, many young and genuine applicants now have the door shut in their faces.

My uncle worked in Kaduna from 1989 - 2000! He survived several attempts on his life and yet today he is happily settled in Lagos with his family despite several legall opportunities to relocate abroad. Yes Nigeria has no welfare system for women and children but is that the responsibility of the Irish government?
MILITIA (f)
Re: Nigerian Refugee Elected Mayor In Ireland
« #27 on: June 29, 2007, 04:23 AM »

Quote from: davidylan on June 29, 2007, 04:15 AM
We are not forgetting anything. How easy it is for us to rationalise illegality, fraud and violation of the law when it suits us on flawed moral grounds.
Let us ask ourselves the question, why did Ireland stop granting citizenship to illegal aliens who happen to have children there? Simple! Because many of us took advantage of their generosity, using it as a stepping stone to obtaining EU citizenship and running off to other countries.

True!  I guess it is pay back time!  Oyinbo came to Africa illegally and by force too with guns to our heads when we did not comply or sign treaties.  What is wrong in returning the favor.  Mr Adebari did not break any laws but use the loopholes in the system to improve the lives of his family members.  What is immoral about that?  He did not kill anyone to get what he needed to survive abi? Cheesy
davidylan (m)
Re: Nigerian Refugee Elected Mayor In Ireland
« #28 on: June 29, 2007, 04:31 AM »

Quote from: MILITIA on June 29, 2007, 04:23 AM
True!  I guess it is pay back time!  Oyinbo came to Africa illegally and by force too with guns to our heads when we did not comply or sign treaties.  What is wrong in returning the favor.  Mr Adebari did not break any laws but use the loopholes in the system to improve the lives of his family members.  What is immoral about that?  He did not kill anyone to get what he needed to survive abi? Cheesy

Awww the race card again! When are we going to get over blaming colonialism for all our problems? Malaysia was colonised, India was colonised, Japan survived 2 atomic bombs and all we can do is cry about colonialism?
In the last 47 years was it the oyinbos that forced guns to our heads to loot the treasury and condemn our children to perpetual penury? Should the those who had nothing to do with slavery pay for the sins of their forefathers simply because they have white skin? Why are we not all emigrating to saudi arabia? didnt the arabs colonise africa at some point?

Mr Adebari broke the law and had his asylum application rejected. Fortunately for him he happened to be in a country where the law is respected and he was granted citizenship on the basis of his third child having been born in Ireland.
It is not immoral to do anything to survive, it is immoral when your actions become an impediment for others coming behind you.
I-man (m)
Re: Nigerian Refugee Elected Mayor In Ireland
« #29 on: June 29, 2007, 04:42 AM »

Quote
True!  I guess it is pay back time!  Oyinbo came to Africa illegally and by force too with guns to our heads when we did not comply or sign treaties.  What is wrong in returning the favor.

Ireland itself was a colony of the English from the 17th century to the 20th century.He can't use that colonialism excuse with the Irish 
davidylan (m)
Re: Nigerian Refugee Elected Mayor In Ireland
« #30 on: June 29, 2007, 04:50 AM »

Nigerians and their ability to rationalise fraud on the basis of flawed morality. No wonder 47 years on all we can do is blame the white man for our problems, the same time it has taken the asian tigers to become the one of the world's largest economies.
Biko someone should let me know when next the almajiris in Kano go on rampage, i want to complete the last part of my asylum application.
Seun (m)
Re: Nigerian Refugee Elected Mayor In Ireland
« #31 on: June 29, 2007, 07:48 AM »

Why are we accusing the man of fraud?  Do you think his political opponents would not have investigated him? Huh

I wonder why inferior people are always sad when one of them achieves some measure of success.  By inferior I mean Africans, Women, etc.  Instead of rejoicing with the few successful ones, they try to drag them down.
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