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The One (m)
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Seun, did you just say we are inferior people. If so, I beg to remove myself from your classification.
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JustGood (m)
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This is a real shame. All we can do here is to try and bring the man down  It's so sad that we do not celebrate the achievement of any Nigerian. The only thing we ever look out for in each other is negativity. Okay, so the guy lied to make his life better. He has since settled down and is making a positive contribution to the society in which he lives. Why can't we respect the contribution he may be making to that society? How many of you those westerners you guys eulogise don't have their dodgy and shady pasts? Abeg make una go siddon and stop this pull-down mentality whereby you are always looking to pull down any Nigerian who seems to be doing well. Any wonder Nigeria is the way it is? |
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follyg
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we don't have to argue over issues like this, its a multidimensional issue.
one we can not really say what the man went through here in nigeria before seeking assylum, except we hear from him personally.we have to realise that a lot of things happen that are not publicise so lets give him benefit of doubt. Two our government has not made the country condusive to stay, so we all have our rights to seek greener pasture instead of constituting a nuisance.Even the oyinbo man self,how straight forward are they, its through they invaded our privacy through colonisation which is not out of our free will, do they think they will milk us dry and leave us just like that, impossible.
They do worse things than this themselves, even if our brother entered illegally,he is now doing something legal.maybe he his changing his ways, afterall change is the most constant thing.
peace to u all
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vigasimple (m)
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I think we should read
1. Seun
2.Justgood
3.Follyg
These 3 people has made what I consideer to be the most appopriate contribution
If you also permit me to say that we have grown to negativity in Nigeria that even things that we can see to rejoice we start to look for the negative side and impact of it.
If you want to discuss illegality, fraud and all things associated with that I must agree with MILITIA on this they are emanate from English Language and came from our colonial masters.
Did you know that only what that has not been declared illegal is simply still benefiting the ruling class.
There are too many basket mouth here on this site who cannot start to be constructive.
AS far as I know there are more than religious or political persecution in Nigeria. The facts that Nigerians endure does not mean in this modern age that it is right and that it does not amount to persecution.
In any event what to somebody as persecution and the law may simply mean to some other people that it is okay.
It is hard to achieve anything in the West and whoever do so among us not only should we rejoice with him and celebrate positiveness and our's we come if on the other hand we put our brothers down, we ourselves cannot go up.
May God bless our brother, myself and family, all good people on this site, have mercies on people and our Great Country NIGERIA.
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davidylan (m)
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Why are we accusing the man of fraud? Do you think his political opponents would not have investigated him? I wonder why inferior people are always sad when one of them achieves some measure of success. By inferior I mean Africans, Women, etc. Instead of rejoicing with the few successful ones, they try to drag them down.Inferior people? On what basis? Sorry the man has done nothing to make me feel inferior neither do i celebrate "success" achieved on the back of fraud and illegality. This is a real shame. All we can do here is to try and bring the man down It's so sad that we do not celebrate the achievement of any Nigerian. The only thing we ever look out for in each other is negativity.Okay, so the guy lied to make his life better. He has since settled down and is making a positive contribution to the society in which he lives. Why can't we respect the contribution he may be making to that society? How many of you those westerners you guys eulogise don't have their dodgy and shady pasts?Abeg make una go siddon and stop this pull-down mentality whereby you are always looking to pull down any Nigerian who seems to be doing well. Any wonder Nigeria is the way it is?Classical irony! The reason Nigeria is the way it is today is not difficult to decipher. We believe in the end justifies the means, we celebrate "success" even when it is achieved by questionable means. That is why politics in Nigeria today is a do or die affair, that is why fraud, corruption, mediocrity, inefficiency are national principles in Nigeria today. Because so long as the average big man has made money we all want to "celebrate the achievement of that Nigerian". The fact that he LIED on his asylum papers is enough to disqualify him as far as i am concerned. Foreign countries are where they are today because they do not condone fraud simply because we must all celebrate achievement. If being a mayor of a city is call for celebration then thousands of people will be celebrating round the world every day! |
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McKren (m)
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Davidylan The fact that he LIED on his asylum papers is enough to disqualify him as far as i am concerned. Foreign countries are where they are today because they do not condone fraud simply because we must all celebrate achievement. If being a mayor of a city is call for celebration then thousands of people will be celebrating round the world every day! On a more serious note, you can not prove that Rotimi Adebari lied. He might have been in Northern Nigeria during one of the past religous clashes and chose to flee for freedom. don't ask why he did not flee to southern Nigeria because assylum rules does not include priority, order or scale of preference in the cities someone fleeing for his life must run to. You can only flee to where you find safe at that point in time. If Rotimi thinks Ireland is the only safe place for him, you have no right to question that thought. |
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initiator (m)
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@ davidylan ur sense of justice on this issue is apparently warped. If u were a judge you would have sentenced him on the basis of newspaper reports. None of us knows this man xcept what we've read so to call him fraud is a little too exuberant. And for ur information (in case u've forgotten) 2000 was a violent time in nigeria with sharia raging the whole country and riots in kaduna over religion.
I however agree with you that its high time we stop blaming the west for our woes.
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tlops (m)
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well what has his being an asylum seeker got to do with the new post.if the people of Ireland see no reason why an asylum seeker should be considered even elected for such a position, what is our own. the usual bad belle that is keeping us stagnant. atleast he has distinguished himself for him to have been elected for such position. as for the critics "make una too go try am" anyway congrats brother!!!  |
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Big B1 (m)
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Posted by Seun: I wonder why inferior people are always sad when one of them achieves some measure of success. By inferior I mean Africans, Women, etc. Instead of rejoicing with the few successful ones, they try to drag them down. @Seun This statement is despicable and absolutely unacceptable; I will like to see you apologize to all Africans and women in general before it's too late.
I will try my best not to display any reaction to this scornful and contemptuous statement of yours till I see your posted apology.
This statement is unwarranted, unnecessary and totally out of context.
You should find an appropriate word to better express your thought.
I will check back later! |
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Big B1 (m)
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Posted by Degoat: First, this is a great news and I wish this man well. Hopefully he wouldn't loot the treasury and embarrass us.
It doesn't matter what brought him to Ireland. The most important thing is this man to live up to expectation and make us proud. I think he has just opened a magic door for other immigrants from Nigeria. @Degoat: Excellent post. Thanks for the wisdom. |
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davidylan (m)
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@ davidylan your sense of justice on this issue is apparently warped. If u were a judge you would have sentenced him on the basis of newspaper reports. None of us knows this man xcept what we've read so to call him fraud is a little too exuberant. And for your information (in case u've forgotten) 2000 was a violent time in nigeria with sharia raging the whole country and riots in kaduna over religion.
I however agree with you that its high time we stop blaming the west for our woes.
this is a general response to all even though i only reference this post. I think it is interesting to point out that Adebari's initial asylum application WAS REJECTED! Fortunately he took the wise decision to sire another offspring in the country to trigger a loophole that automatically confers Irish citizenship on parents of children born in Ireland. However in light of the flagrant abuse of this proviso, it has since been discontinued! On that hinges my argument, Adebari may have gotten away with fraud BUT his actions and that of others have forever CLOSED the door on other innocent and genuine cases for Nigerians wishing to immigrate to other countries. Is it any coincidence that Nigerians now have the highest rate of visa refusals? We are merely paying for the sins of those ahead of us who have chosen to abuse the opportunities given to them! It doesnt matter if they have become mayors today, the fact remains that due to their actions foreign immigration officials now take our applications with less than a pinch of salt! |
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I-man (m)
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Adebari traveled to Ireland with his wife and two boys in 2000 and claimed asylum on the basis of religious persecution, citing bloody clashes between Christians and Muslims in his homeland. His application was rejected because of insufficient evidence he had personally suffered persecution, but he gained residency because his third child, another boy, was born in Ireland.
Asylum-seekers flocked to Ireland in part to gain European Union citizenship on the basis of having a child born in the country. Ireland in 2004 stopped granting citizenship to foreign parents of an Irish-born child, a law that had been unique in Europe.http://www.townhall.com/News/NewsArticle.aspx?contentGUID=6bc36aab-84d9-483e-a4bc-2c2ea03793fe
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Digiman (m)
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The guy just played the system, its common knowledge that if your Uk visa runs out Ireland is your best bet, its much easier to legalise your stay. Loads of Nigerians have settled there and yes some have made a mess of the place hence the reason why they have changed the imigration laws. http://www.africamigration.com/archive_01/j_komolafe_searching.htm |
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Dis Guy
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The religious crisis is not even the problem, most likely mr. Adebari's REAL problem was economic in nature. It is unlikely that he was based in the north. Excusing the problem of pockets of religious crisis here and there, Abuja is less than 5 hrs drive away from most northern states. What about the southern states?
I was a student in Nigeria in 2000 and i can't remember anytime anyone was persecuted for his religious beliefs!  pockets of religious crisis? you wont be saying that if you are based in the north! why is this topic under tribalism/racism, dockywo xytcod una dey here? |
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