United States Of Africa (what Ur View)

what's the objective?
or else it's pointless

what have those "clamoring" for a US of Africa done to their own little domains? Most lead nations with NO economy and are merely seeking to reap where they have not sown. Nigeria has enough problems as it is "sharing" oil money, there is no point adding Niger, Chad, Sudan to the equation!

@ denex,

the comparison with the EU is pointless. You can't compare a nation like Germany or France with Sudan or Rwanda.
We have enough problems with the Niger Delta, i don't think we are prepared to inherit Darfur.

_{between still going to respond to ur folly on the Isreal thread. . . too busy to humor u with a reply now.}

I totally agree with denex. But now is not the right time just as he has said.

It is good though that the issue have arisen. ROME WASN'T BUILT IN A DAY.

@ daviddylan

I know Nigerians are naturally proud people but you are taking it to the extreme. Why don't you think of what we can gain as well? There is diamond in Serrialone (permit my spelling) remember? There is gold in Ghana and so on. So why are you scared?

The same diamonds that plunged Sieraleone and Liberia into 10yr civil wars? The same gold that has ensured that 40% of Ghana's economy is dependent on foreign aid?

Have we made money out of our own resources? We have 3 refineries and yet still depend wholly on imported fuel, 80% of our population lives in relative poverty, rebels are in control of our oil wells and we are the second most corrupt nation on earth.

No sir, we are in no position to teach others how to make money out of their own resources until we teach ourselves first.

@ daviddylan

I see your point actually, but to an extent we have tried to make proper use of ours before now. Why not see it this way, South africa is good in management (that's their stronghold), we have ours to and so do other countries. Don't you think that our corruption can be cancelled out by south Africa's proper way of managerial skills for instance and so on. Complementing each other is what am driving at. What do you think?

no Koko-A, what we would see in essence is uncontrolled migration of desperately poor Sudanese, Chadians, Malians, Zimbabweans, Nigeriens e.t.c. into "rich" countries like Nigeria and southAfrica. In essence we will end up completely overwhelmed.

If our oil money cannot guarantee an acceptable standard of living for 150million Nigerians, neither will it be enough for the entire Africa.

We have only over 100 ethnic groups in Nigeria and we can hardly keep the peace, adding more from Rwanda, Angola and Burundi is a recipe for disaster.

What massive migration? Unless we no longer have a border patrol.

Nuclear attacks from Burundi or Niger? Because we are developing and leaving them behind?  Is there a law that states that all countries are not allowed to develop until others are doing so at the same pace? Why have those same countries not started attacking the US and Europe afterall they have already left us behind?

@davidlyn

I agree with all your points though. So you think united state of Africa is just a mirage or should be done when the time is right? I still feel it is necessary but in like 25 year time sha.

Like GNature said, a US of Africa is too large and too complex to work even in 100 years time.
Nigeria alone has more than 100 different cultures and languages and we are still fighting with religious riots, ethnic clashes, we still have issues with zoning. Merging us with other countries will only exacerbate the existiing problems.

Europe did not merge in 1940, they waited until they were economically strong enough to do so. Even now membership of the EU is not automatic but is conditioned on certain political reforms and on meeting some economic criteria.

@ david

Am glad that you agreed is feasible in years to come. We will get there.

@Gnature

I don't agree with you concerning the size. See, the system of government will not be the normal presidential system. They leaders at that time will work out a proper style of governance for the great UNITED AFRICAN STATES.

So what do you guys think of the present moves to harmonize the west african currencies?

at this rate not in your lifetime. 


How does this take into account the wide disparity in economies of the west african states? For instance
$1  = Ghanain Cedi 9,267.3

@kokoA

What kind of system of government is going to make the 100's (actually 1000's)  of cultures live under a uniform african-wide government ?

We are yet to remedy the Nigerian experiment with about 100 tribes

In central africa, you have hundreds of thousands of people that died as a result of ethnic cleansing

Look at the situation in Darfur, Sudan.

And the next thing on your mind is for all these individual states to team up and form a single country ? If anything, many african countries should split further into smaller countries like Ethiopia and Eritrea did. When these smaller "entities" get their stuff together, perhaps, we can entertain the thought of a single african state.

A child must learn how to crawl before he learns how to walk.

AFRICAN DREAM

I dream of you and me
Living our lives free
I dream a day the streets are clean
No drugs,  No guns
It's a world that I dream


I dream of our kids
Back to living the extended family
Rising, living to win
I dream our herbs heal every sick
No more grief, no disease
Thats' the life that I see

I dream of my brothers
Long lost in the Diaspora
America, Europe and the Caribbean
I miss you African soldiers
I keep waiting, searching for you
'because in my dream we're together.

I dream of elevation
Time for the African  Union
One mother nation
I dream us back in our rightful position
We're all a part, we all should strive
Bring this dream alive.