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cgift (m)
Re: Gulder Ultimate Search 4 (IV)!
« #320 on: August 09, 2007, 08:19 PM »

They could not have insured for more than N10m per candidate. What would that do? They should sue for damages and get something mega.
olu-hak
Re: Gulder Ultimate Search 4 (IV)!
« #321 on: August 10, 2007, 12:17 AM »

What a pity! A lot has been said on this issue, my only advice for NB Plc is to discontinue with the programme and have the family compensated.

Having known that the contestants are not professional swimmers, organizers should not have taken these people to a pool that is detrimental to their degree of professionalism.

May ur soul rest in perfect peace.

Olu-Hak
denex
Re: Gulder Ultimate Search 4 (IV)!
« #322 on: August 10, 2007, 12:30 AM »

I do not support NB doling out hundreds of millions to this guy's mother just because he died they should pay as much as his insurance covers and they should consider whether the guy waived NB Plc from bearing any responsibility.

Things should be done the way they should be done. For God sake 6 miners just got buried underground in the USA, most probably dead. The company responsible will take care of it's basic responsibility as stipulated in it contract.

Which one be N100 million? You want make people begin enter Gulder Ultimate Search with the intention to die?
babyosisi (f)
Re: Gulder Ultimate Search 4 (IV)!
« #323 on: August 10, 2007, 12:33 AM »

Quote from: denex on August 10, 2007, 12:30 AM
I do not support NB doling out hundreds of millions to this guy's mother just because he died they should pay as much as his insurance covers and they should consider whether the guy waived NB Plc from bearing any responsibility.

Things should be done the way they should be done. For God sake 6 miners just got buried underground in the USA, most probably dead. The company responsible will take care of it's basic responsibility as stipulated in it contract.

Which one be N100 million? You want make people begin enter Gulder Ultimate Search with the intention to die?

I've read many of your comments that involve death  of individuals,you almost sound so unmoved by the death of a fellow human being.
Almost as if you have a heart that's been seared by iron,so to speak.
That is scary!!
PTH (m)
Re: Gulder Ultimate Search 4 (IV)!
« #324 on: August 10, 2007, 12:42 AM »

Quote from: ejunkie on August 09, 2007, 06:05 PM
Let evaluate this for a min,

Boy is only son of his parents (lots of value)

Boy is the only emotional support of his mother (loads of value)

Boy just graduated, could ve well gone  on to become anything (literally mega value!!)

i think it's only fair NB diverts 100 million out their much publicised, proudly cited 400 million naira budget to console the bereaved and stop trying to absolve themselves.

The show most likely continue, but then let them pretend to demonstrate a liitle responsibilty.

this is unrealistic. Why should NBplc pay 25% of their annual budget to the boy's family? Did they force him to be a part of the show? Why did he agree to go on a canoe when he knew he clearly could not swim?
The best NB can do is pay for insurance if each of the contestants had life insurance and let them get on with the program later.

Quote from: olu-hak on August 10, 2007, 12:17 AM
What a pity! A lot has been said on this issue, my only advice for NB Plc is to discontinue with the programme and have the family compensated.

Having known that the contestants are not professional swimmers, organizers should not have taken these people to a pool that is detrimental to their degree of professionalism.

May your soul rest in perfect peace.

Olu-Hak

that is not an excuse. They do several reality shows in other countries and no one has died yet. It is not completely NB's fault, when you answer to an ad you should know the risks involved. I'm sure each contestant not only signed a contract before the commencement of the competition but must have been fully briefed about the tasks they would be required to partake in. Anyone who felt unable to complete them had a 100% choice of backing out and letting someone else better equiped take his place.

As usual Nigerians, simply for the lure of fame and easy money will lie, cut corners and put their lives at risk.
denex
Re: Gulder Ultimate Search 4 (IV)!
« #325 on: August 10, 2007, 01:45 AM »

@babyosisi

apart from suicide, I see death as a natural part of life. Everything that has a beginning has an end.

I'm not afraid to die, nor would I want people to bother themselves too much when I die.
I use my life to do as much as I can so that when I die, people will not say "had it been".

It's not like humans are an endangered species that I will now be alarmed when a couple of people die. It's just nature running its course.

However, when something like suicide occurs, I am really bothered because it takes a lot for any living organism to take it's own life. It is unnatural. That is what gets me concerned not all these people that put themselves in harm's way for financial benefit.
uchetobi (f)
Re: Gulder Ultimate Search 4 (IV)!
« #326 on: August 10, 2007, 08:07 AM »

stop the show ke? please after the mourning period the show should  go on ASAP
oyb (m)
Re: Gulder Ultimate Search 4 (IV)!
« #327 on: August 10, 2007, 08:19 AM »

Quote from: denex on August 10, 2007, 12:30 AM
Which one be N100 million? You want make people begin enter Gulder Ultimate Search with the intention to die?

my sentiments exactly.

this is a reality show.in real life, events do not follow any prewritten script.

the young man made his choice. It seems we all want to adopt the victim culture that pervades america."every bad thing that happens to me is someone else(usually a Mr BIG with deep pockets)'s fault.

with all the hints that  'mago mago' involved in his entry into the show, should anyone be suprised.

one of the issues steven covey discusses in the seven habits of highly effective people is the tendency of people to fake abilities/skills they do not have. he pointed out that you can get away with this up to a point, but sooner or later, you will find yourself in a position where you will have no choice but to use your nonexistent abilities, and that's where the problems begin.

its the same sort of deception that causes collapsed buildings in lagos(built by contractors with '20 years of experience').

in this case,the only direct victim of deception was the deception was the fellow himself.

I hope future contenders for reality shows (the new ,raging get rich quick scheme) will consider this.

also, it has been said : it takes five years to become an overnight success.we should stop looking for shortcuts (becoming an overnight success in three weeks)and accept reality TV for what it mostly is, human beings debasing themselves on national tv while the sponsors reap millions in free advertising.
techie (m)
Re: Gulder Ultimate Search 4 (IV)!
« #328 on: August 10, 2007, 08:27 AM »

Hi All

I watched an episode of the last season of Survivor Africa in which one of the contestants broke his arm in one of the challenges ( I forget his name) he could easily have broken his neck or his spine yet no one blamed survivor Africa for his broken arm and no one suggested they should be sued and made to pay millions for his broken arm.

Yes he lost his life and yes we commiserate with his family for his lost life it is a sad thing to happen to anyone anywhere from previous posts it has been indicated that NBL had medics and medical teams on ground that attempted to rescue him and as at this moment we don't know the cause of his death.

Let us not be quick to cast blames on the organisers and be grateful for their providing such an oppurtunity for people to make money. From what I heard they have other programs targeted @ Musicians (Star trek), Dancers (Dance for all), actors (AMBO) etc. So if you know your strenghts and you limitations you could go for the area that would be SAFEST for you to participate in.

Please lets not be too quick to throw the baby out with the bath water.

I look forward to the next GUS who knows I may even contest.

@ Uchetobi & Denex
Thanks for keeping it real
uchetobi (f)
Re: Gulder Ultimate Search 4 (IV)!
« #329 on: August 10, 2007, 08:41 AM »

word
diva_naija
Re: Gulder Ultimate Search 4 (IV)!
« #330 on: August 10, 2007, 08:46 AM »

Quote from: oyb on August 10, 2007, 08:19 AM
my sentiments exactly.

this is a reality show.in real life, events do not follow any prewritten script.

the young man made his choice. It seems we all want to adopt the victim culture that pervades america."every bad thing that happens to me is someone else(usually a Mr BIG with deep pockets)'s fault.

with all the hints that  'mago mago' involved in his entry into the show, should anyone be suprised.

one of the issues steven covey discusses in the seven habits of highly effective people is the tendency of people to fake abilities/skills they do not have. he pointed out that you can get away with this up to a point, but sooner or later, you will find yourself in a position where you will have no choice but to use your nonexistent abilities, and that's where the problems begin.

its the same sort of deception that causes collapsed buildings in lagos(built by contractors with '20 years of experience').

in this case,the only direct victim of deception was the deception was the fellow himself.

I hope future contenders for reality shows (the new ,raging get rich quick scheme) will consider this.

also, it has been said : it takes five years to become an overnight success.we should stop looking for shortcuts (becoming an overnight success in three weeks)and accept reality TV for what it mostly is, human beings debasing themselves on national tv while the sponsors reap millions in free advertising.


U said it all Uchetobi,u said it all.
wills (m)
Re: Gulder Ultimate Search 4 (IV)!
« #331 on: August 10, 2007, 09:18 AM »

Quote from: Dekie on August 09, 2007, 03:52 PM
Wills,
young man,the last time i checked the word was CORPORATE,check your details.
Anyway i read your response to Alos' post.

So u have lived in all the major cities in Nigeria,that's the only point i got from your post.Who said it was a chicken that died anyway!!!!!!! please if u have nothing better to say,don't bother,abi Seun dey pay u salary?


Abeg Nairalanders let us mourn a great man that fell in battle.


@Dekie, you know what, you can pull that big lip of yours over your  head.
Veracious (f)
Re: Gulder Ultimate Search 4 (IV)!
« #332 on: August 10, 2007, 09:42 AM »

Must you guys querell over this issue?
uchetobi (f)
Re: Gulder Ultimate Search 4 (IV)!
« #333 on: August 10, 2007, 09:51 AM »

i wonder o
afam1
Re: Gulder Ultimate Search 4 (IV)!
« #334 on: August 10, 2007, 10:11 AM »



Posted by: babyosisi 
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Quote from: denex on Today at 12:30:00 AM
I do not support NB doling out hundreds of millions to this guy's mother just because he died they should pay as much as his insurance covers and they should consider whether the guy waived NB Plc from bearing any responsibility.

Things should be done the way they should be done. For God sake 6 miners just got buried underground in the USA, most probably dead. The company responsible will take care of it's basic responsibility as stipulated in it contract.

Which one be N100 million? You want make people begin enter Gulder Ultimate Search with the intention to die?


I've read many of your comments that involve death  of individuals,you almost sound so unmoved by the death of a fellow human being.
Almost as if you have a heart that's been seared by iron,so to speak.
That is scary!!


@denex

i think i support baby osisi,
denex,u ve never shown any concern over the death of one of us.
akhilor (f)
Re: Gulder Ultimate Search 4 (IV)!
« #335 on: August 10, 2007, 10:20 AM »

It is no is unfortunate. IT IS PURE MAGOMAGO. A  colleague of mine was invited he passed all the test in jos for first interview and was invited to the lagos auditioning, the guys swims like a fish but yet he was dropped. why because he does not know anyone to give him a note. if not that there is WAYO how did he pass the first screanning because u hv to know how to swim to be called to camp. so as you can all see there is pure wayo. AND IT SHOULD BE SCRAPED BEFORE THEY KILL ALL OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS OH  Angry
Bluestream (m)
Re: Gulder Ultimate Search 4 (IV)!
« #336 on: August 10, 2007, 10:49 AM »

Whilst you all yammer and yatter away on the sensitive issue of death, has it occured to anyone that above and beyond talking about it here; Nairalanders could actually influence the outcome of this event, to ensure that it NEVER happens again?!!

There are 121000 of us. That's a lot of intelligent socially aware people. That's Power people, serious power. and it's web enabled power too!

So asides from yakking about it like I said, is anyone willing to make some noise that will be noticed about this?

I say lets strike the fear of GOD and respect for the Nigerian man and woman into the psyches of the organizers and their kind. It does not matter what his motivations,miscalculations or whatever were, Anthony certainly did not bargain to die!, and since he IS dead, nothing can be done but mourn him, BUT we owe it to him, to ourselves , to ensure that it does not happen again, EVER!
Veracious (f)
Re: Gulder Ultimate Search 4 (IV)!
« #337 on: August 10, 2007, 10:58 AM »

When do we begin Sir? because i second your opinion
uchetobi (f)
Re: Gulder Ultimate Search 4 (IV)!
« #338 on: August 10, 2007, 11:34 AM »

How do we ensure it doesn’t happen again, death is in the hands of God not man
hayprof (m)
Re: Gulder Ultimate Search 4 (IV)!
« #339 on: August 10, 2007, 12:04 PM »

But me thinks, they mite av been notified about anything death. in the contract before they sign it, abi? Cry
Alos
Re: Gulder Ultimate Search 4 (IV)!
« #340 on: August 10, 2007, 04:09 PM »

Wills my dear,

Instead of you to say thank you to Dekie for the correction given to you, OLODO ,  I now realised how you managed to have stayed in all the major cities of Nigeria. Huh Huh Huh

Thanks Techie please help and educate them on the realities of life.
wills (m)
Re: Gulder Ultimate Search 4 (IV)!
« #341 on: August 10, 2007, 04:22 PM »

Quote from: Alos on August 10, 2007, 04:09 PM
Wills my dear,

Instead of you to say thank you to Dekie for the correction given to you, OLODO , I now realised how you managed to have stayed in all the major cities of Nigeria. Huh Huh Huh

Thanks Techie please help and educate them on the realities of life.

Alos, just like Dekie you too can Pull that Big lip of yours over your Head and shut the mess! up
cytech (m)
Re: Gulder Ultimate Search 4 (IV)!
« #342 on: August 10, 2007, 04:29 PM »

well nothing much to say just that like i have always said, we can never tell what can happen because in this world anything can happen. What if any had died travelling to Jos any via any other means,wont it be the same thing we would say "like  it's because of Gulder person die"
 So if there are any lessons to learn lets do so if not lets apply next year because me i believe say i go make am next year, Not because Of N5.m but just for popularity
  
  LETS TAKE HEART AND PRAY that NIGERIAN BEWERIES DOES NOT CANCEL GUS IV
      
   from justice
                
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       ichiustice4real@yahoo.com

                           BENUE STATE
ejunkie (m)
Re: Gulder Ultimate Search 4 (IV)!
« #343 on: August 10, 2007, 05:13 PM »

I see some of us here didn't take a liking to my earlier posts :-)

Sure the contestants got enough (supposed) warning bout how tough it will be, but c'mon we all know ad gimmicks.

If NB advertised with "WARNING! Contestants are liable to DIE!" u honestly think they 'ld get enough applicants to be bragging with?!!! (over 21,000 entries!, 6,000 eligble entries, 130 shortlisted, 40 to trials, 10 selected! )

For those who compared our dear GUS with the other reality shows (survivor), honestly haven't u seen the difference in professionalism, organisation and all! (not that NB didn't try, just not well enough)

When you watch fear factor, you see their 'fail safe' measures. So if even you want to commit suicide you cannot with all your will, do it on their show.


So maybe this is a good thing for GUS, maybe now they (NB) can see the 'risks' (yes, not only contestants need to know the risks) involved. maybe they will sit up and not plan the show so sloppishly, and not cut budgets unjustifiedly, and play politics with candidate selection


Fact still remains the poor boy is dead as a result of NB. Whether or not he was a junkie, a rapist, a business man in the making, a future president, a father, a great inventor, a mentor, a legend we 'll never know. And you cannot put a value on that can we? Neither should it be just swept under the carpet all in a bid to get the show back on the road.

How would you react if it were your friend, brother, colleague, neighbour, benefactor, cousin?
uchetobi (f)
Re: Gulder Ultimate Search 4 (IV)!
« #344 on: August 10, 2007, 05:55 PM »

what of the people that die yearly during the senseless scheme (NYSC) what compensation do they receive? Why is that not made an issue??? Because this is entertainment does it make it different.
Senate
Re: Gulder Ultimate Search 4 (IV)!
« #345 on: August 10, 2007, 05:59 PM »

Welllll, it really is sad the young Man is dead, but i wonder just before they went to Jos where the contestants  made to sign disclaimer notices? Everyone should think about that because if they did then nobody can sue Nigerian Breweries.

iyes (m)
Re: Gulder Ultimate Search 4 (IV)!
« #346 on: August 10, 2007, 07:53 PM »

@ Bluestream (m) & ALL OTHERS BLAMING N.B. FOR G.US,

I say lets strike the fear of GOD and respect for the Nigerian man and woman into the psyches of the organizers and their kind. It does not matter what his motivations,miscalculations or whatever were, Anthony certainly did not bargain to die!, and since he IS dead, nothing can be done but mourn him, BUT we owe it to him, to ourselves , to ensure that it does not happen again, EVER!



WHAT HAPPENED TO THE PRINCIPLE CALLED "CAVEAT EMPTOR"?

IF YOU LIVE IN LAGOS, YOU WILL NOTICE THAT EVERY WEEK, SOMEONE IS KILLED ON THE EXPRESSWAYS (MOST ESPECIALLY, NEAR FOOT BRIDGES) TRYING TO RUN ACCROSS.  ACCORDING TO YOUR THEORY, JULIUS BERGER SHOULD BE SUED FOR CONSTRUCTING THE ROAD SO WIDE IT TAKES THE SPEED OF A PROFESSIONAL/OLYMPIC ATHLETE TO RUN ACROSS SAFELY! - WHEN THE VICTIMS WERE JUST NOT SINCERE TO THEMSELVES, HAVING OVER-ESTIMATED THEIR RUNNING ABILITIES, AND THEREFORE DASHED ACROSS BECAUSE MANY OTHERS DO SO WITH EASE?

COMMON, LET'S NOT INTRODUCE THE CULTURE OF BLAMING OTHERS FOR OUR SHORTCOMINGS OR FAILURES, WHICH IS THE MAJOR PROBLEM OF WESTERN COUNTRIES (ESPECIALLY, USA)

N.B, RIDE ON WITH THE SHOW!





 
 
Oracle (m)
Re: Gulder Ultimate Search 4 (IV)!
« #347 on: August 10, 2007, 10:23 PM »

May his soul rest in peace
babyosisi (f)
Re: Gulder Ultimate Search 4 (IV)!
« #348 on: August 10, 2007, 10:32 PM »

Quote from: Oracle on August 10, 2007, 10:23 PM
May his soul rest in peace

if people like denex will let him Grin
busygirl (f)
Re: Gulder Ultimate Search 4 (IV)!
« #349 on: August 10, 2007, 10:37 PM »

iT's so sad but I think this might not have to do with his inability to swim. . I just have a feel it's not ordinary but more of a spiritual thingy.
PTH (m)
Re: Gulder Ultimate Search 4 (IV)!
« #350 on: August 10, 2007, 11:14 PM »

Quote from: busygirl on August 10, 2007, 10:37 PM
iT's so sad but I think this might not have to do with his inability to swim. . I just have a feel it's not ordinary but more of a spiritual thingy.

them don come again. Everything is spiritual, including non-swimmers who plunge themselves headlong into a raging stream.
9ja4eva (m)
Re: Gulder Ultimate Search 4 (IV)!
« #351 on: August 10, 2007, 11:19 PM »

Quote from: busygirl on August 10, 2007, 10:37 PM
iT's so sad but I think this might not have to do with his inability to swim. . I just have a feel it's not ordinary but more of a spiritual thingy.

We never can tell.
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