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babyosisi (f)
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we are simply the best  ekene dili Chukwu
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kulaShaker (f)
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yeah positive thinking is all well and good my dear , so try to save some for the rest of us folks , thinking you are simply the best can be a tad arrogant and bordering on narcissitic behaviour, a trait not so attractive when you think about it.  By the way the best at what? 
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laudate
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answer to this question or thread is , because many Igbo people are quite tribalistic and generally prejudiced. its an opinion based on my personal experiences and observations gathered from Igbo friends and acquaintances
Stop looking for trouble. That remark about 'many Igbo people being tribalistic' is totally out of place, and quite uncalled for. Did you conduct a demographic survey among Nd'Igbo to find out how tribalistic they were, before you jumped to this conclusion? It is such sweeping generalisations spewed out without any proof, that spawns discord. Careful! 
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londoner
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Most tribes in Nigeria (or anywhere else) are tribalistic when you think about it. It may help if people just ignore the trouble makers.
As far as the original question, I know people who have one Igbo and one Hausa parent or one Yoruba and one Igbo. It does happen, in fact you are more likely to see that than Hausa and Ijaw or Ibibio.
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babyosisi (f)
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londoner,you made a good observation. Igbos intermarry with other tribes a whole lot. We have hausa and Tiv grandmothers in my village married to Igbo men I know an Igbo lady married to a Yoruba man and none of her siblings are married to Igbo and her parents are both Igbos and this is not uncommon. The most intermarriage I think is between Igbos and Rivers state tribes or Igbos and Cross river and Akwa Ibom perhaps due to proximity. So kulashaker don't hurt yourself over my statement biko. we are between simply the best at everything 
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laudate
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londoner,you made a good observation. Igbos intermarry with other tribes a whole lot. We have hausa and Tiv grandmothers in my village married to Igbo men I know an Igbo lady married to a Yoruba man and none of her siblings are married to Igbo and her parents are both Igbos and this is not uncommon.
The most intermarriage I think is between Igbos and Rivers state tribes or Igbos and Cross river and Akwa Ibom perhaps due to proximity.
Hmmn. . . . . . another generalisation!  So one Igbo lady marries a Yoruba man, and you think that translates into 'Igbos intermarry with other tribes a whole lot?' Sheesh!! 
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I-man (m)
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Stop looking for trouble. That remark about 'many Igbo people being tribalistic' is totally out of place, and quite uncalled for. Did you conduct a demographic survey among Nd'Igbo to find out how tribalistic they were, before you jumped to this conclusion? It is such sweeping generalisations spewed out without any proof, that spawns discord. Careful!  Trying too hard to redeem your reputation  We are not fooled. 
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laudate
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Trying too hard to redeem your reputation  We are not fooled.  Nothing went wrong with my reputation in the first place. So there is absolutely nothing to redeem. You on the other hand, have such a damaged reputation, which stinks to the high heavens. That's probably why you keep changing your identity at every whim, I-man a.k.a 4-play. Last time, you messed up so badly, that the only way to draw a curtain on your atrocities was to adopt a new identity! Or have you forgotten? 
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babyosisi (f)
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Hmmn. . . . . . another generalisation!  So one Igbo lady marries a Yoruba man, and you think that translates into 'Igbos intermarry with other tribes a whole lot?' Sheesh!!  did you read the rest of the post? In nigeria we called it busy body,but your condition does have a diagnosis ADHD Don't let your mouth function ahead of your brain!!
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YOUNGDICE$ (m)
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because THEY ARE NATURAL HEART BREAKERS. 
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londoner
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because THEY ARE NATURAL HEART BREAKERS.  Oh so this is the root of your "anti- Igboness", lol, it makes perfect sense. don't worry, time is a very good healer, lol I would say, that of the three main tribes, the Igbo's socialise and live with other groups the most, its common for Igbos to travel around and live outside of Igbo land and adapt to different places and communities. many times this results in inter tribal marriages.
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laudate
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did you read the rest of the post? In nigeria we called it busy body,but your condition does have a diagnosis ADHD Don't let your mouth function ahead of your brain!!
Oh yes, I read it. . . .and my earlier opinion has not changed. It is still long on generalisations and very short on facts! So, Hausa and Tiv grandmothers exist in your village. . . .em, how many are they compared with the total population, that would lead you to conclude that 'Igbos intermarry with other tribes a whole lot,'ehn?? By the way, you need to take it easy. . . .stop trying to diagnose a non-existent condition, for someone who is in a healthy frame of mind. Those that are well, do not need a physician. Did you conduct a survey from Nnewi to Abagana in Anambra, through Ngor Okpala, Mbaise, and Oguta etc. in Imo, down to Izzi, Ezza and other parts of Ebonyi or Udi, Achi, Oji River, Nkanu area etc. in Enugu State as well as several other towns and villages in Alaigbo, to find out if this state of affairs was replicated through out the length and breadth of Alaigbo, before you jumped to the conclusion that. . . . 'Igbos intermarry with other tribes a whole lot,'??  Or did you just base your 'subjective analysis' on the fact that cases of inter-marriages have occurred among some Igbo and a few neighbouring tribes, such as some of those contracted by the Efik/Ibibio with the Bende, Ngwa or Item of Abia, before you concluded that. . . .'Igbos intermarry with other tribes a whole lot,'?? Are neighbouring ethnic groups that share borders with the eastern flank of Alaigbo, the true representatives of ALL other ethnic groups or tribes, in Nigeria? Last time I checked, over a hundred ethnic groups existed in Nigeria. I would like to know which proportion of them you surveyed, before you came to your very interesting conclusion. I would also like to know how you gathered your data on inter-ethnic couples and the frequency of marriages that have been contracted among Nd'Igbo and people from other ethnic groups nationwide, before you came up with this view. Just curious. 
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babyosisi (f)
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Stop trying to sound intelligent 'because you ain't!! and it shows vividly. talking round and round in circles without making a single point is pure stupidity. If it pains you that much that Igbos do a lot of intertribal marriage,go jump into The Charles River  I bet if I or anyone had claimed that Igbos don't intermarry that much you would have been beating your chesticles to attempt to proove the individual wrong. do more google searches,your authors on Igbo naming ceremonies and Igbo kingdoms of Eze may have published one on intertribal marriages too. A typical case of a woman in Ozubulu that claims to know when it rains in Kafanchan by simply holding up her kunu and pointing it northwards 
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laudate
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Stop trying to sound intelligent 'because you ain't!! and it shows vividly. talking round and round in circles without making a single point is pure stupidity. If it pains you that much that Igbos do a lot of intertribal marriage,go jump into The Charles River  I bet if I or anyone had claimed that Igbos don't intermarry that much you would have been beating your chesticles to attempt to proove the individual wrong. do more google searches,your authors on Igbo naming ceremonies and Igbo kingdoms of Eze may have published one on intertribal marriages too. A typical case of a woman in Ozubulu that claims to know when it rains in Kafanchan by simply holding up her kunu and pointing it northwards  Why are you getting all hot and bothered under the collar?? And who is conducting a comparison on aptitude and intelligence here? Is it you? Na wa o! As for jumping into The Charles River, because of "inter-tribal marriages among the Igbo", to use your own words. . . .Madam, I'll leave that to you, since you are so badly upset about it. I ain't Igbo, so why should I take panadol for your own headache?  The points I raised in my last post, were plain enough for any one to decode or understand. So why were you talking about going round in circles? Do you need a tutor?  You claimed in your previous post that 'Igbos intermarry with other tribes a whole lot,'" do you remember? Good. I asked you if you had conducted a survey into this issue, among Nd'Igbo in all other parts of Alaigbo. Instead of saying a plain ' yes' or 'no', like any reasonable adult would, you resorted to spewing banal insults and tried to cover it up with a smiley or a grinning icon. Anyway, that has always been your style, so am not suprised. As for the analogy about kunu and a woman in Ozubulu. . . .ah, I'll leave you to interprete it for those who cannot make sense of it, because quite frankly, it has no bearing on the topic being discussed.  . . . . . .and for the last time, your assertion that Igbos do a lot of inter-tribal marriage, is. . . . . .um, rather too far-fetched. The Efik, Ibibio, Annang do not represent all other tribes in Nigeria, Madam. I guess it is too hard for you to understand that, while inter-ethnic marriages occur among border communities, (e.g. some of those that take place between Abia people and their close neighbours like the Efik, Ibibio et al,), such patterns do not hold true for all other members of those same ethnic groups, (or other tribes) who are far removed from border towns. Go figure! One last question: how many Igbo folks are married to Hausa, Kanuri, Fulani, Bachama, or even Yoruba etc. people? What is the proportion of Igbo-to-Igbo marriages, when compared with those of Igbo-to-Other Ethnic Groups? Please look at these factors objectively, before you conclude that 'Igbos intermarry with other tribes a whole lot,. . . .um?? 
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darfur (m)
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there seems to be something between babyosisi and laudate  . very minor issues become subjects of heated debates . . . . . .  hmmmn.
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grafikdon (m)
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@darfur, don't mind the fake fights between Babyosisiniquia and Ilaudatia, they are actually good buddies. . . 
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moondust (m)
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all this debate never even start to answer the question at all. . . Babayosisi and Laudate I sense reverse attraction between u both. U guys should exchange numbers and get it on please
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BASETSANA (f)
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lgbo men in South Africa are now marrying South Africans so l think Mr Poster you being outdated!
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kulaShaker (f)
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lmao the most tribalist folks in Nairaland playing UN peace makers lmao . too damn funny. if you care to read and digest you will see no harm from my end. i don't play in that camp of stonethrowers and tribal madness. take these two words , personal observation, experience , now digest them well well and use that intelligent brain i am sure you have . My opinion is still and always will remain my own, my experience will still and always will remain my own. madam osisi biko best at what ?  don't think i don't see you generalising on this forum calling other tribes this that and the other. but its all good. lol like i said tone down on it . i am one for a 1 Nigeria and a united Nigeria, always. God bless you in advance lol
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babyosisi (f)
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I read long and interesting posts from the likes of blackmamba,TayoD, and Pilgrim Those are some smart folks If you Ms Laudate can't make your points in a few short sentences I skip over them. now back to the topicIgbos do not find it difficult to marry other tribes. There are indeed countless Igbos with spouses from other areas (rephrasing may help laudatenisha) Several Rivers state indigenes have Igbo mothers and grandmothers. Just a quick look at Naija politicians any person with some intelligence will notice all the Igbo wives of non Igbo men. Igbos are the most travelled within Nigeria and it's not uncommon for them to take on wives from the locality they're in. Most of my family grew up in northern Nigeria and I have uncles and first cousins with wives from Kaduna Jos and Maiduguri area. I have great uncles with Calabar wives. I grew up with playmates with Calabar,'bendel" and Yoruba mothers. In secondary school I had (still have)friends with Igbo moms and their dads are Yoruba,Edo and Kalabari and vice versa. We even have such intertribal marriages amongst parents of some nairaland users where one is Igbo So I have all the evidence I need. Igbos are the best,I don't care who it's paining  kulashaker,now do you really believe me when I say any tribe is better than another don't you people have a sense of humor? sheesh
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kulaShaker (f)
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I read long and interesting posts from the likes of blackmamba,TayoD, and Pilgrim Those are some smart folks If you Ms Laudate can't make your points in a few short sentences I skip over them. now back to the topickulashaker,now do you really believe me when I say any tribe is better than another don't you people have a sense of humor? sheesh sorry did i miss the punch line? lol . take a joke? oh oh i see , i get it now ''D'oh! '' the joke was Igbos are simply the best right? now i geddit!  aww sorry Osisi i am a bit slow on the uptake tonight 
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kulaShaker (f)
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lol , i knew i was the one with the sense of humour 
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laudate
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I read long and interesting posts from the likes of blackmamba,TayoD, and Pilgrim Those are some smart folks If you Ms Laudate can't make your points in a few short sentences I skip over them. now back to the topicIgbos do not find it difficult to marry other tribes. There are indeed countless Igbos with spouses from other areas (rephrasing may help laudatenisha) Several Rivers state indigenes have Igbo mothers and grandmothers. Just a quick look at Naija politicians any person with some intelligence will notice all the Igbo wives of non Igbo men. Igbos are the most travelled within Nigeria and it's not uncommon for them to take on wives from the locality they're in. Most of my family grew up in northern Nigeria and I have uncles and first cousins with wives from Kaduna Jos and Maiduguri area. I have great uncles with Calabar wives. I grew up with playmates with Calabar,'bendel" and Yoruba mothers. In secondary school I had (still have)friends with Igbo moms and their dads are Yoruba,Edo and Kalabari and vice versa. We even have such intertribal marriages amongst parents of some nairaland users where one is Igbo So I have all the evidence I need. You will never cease to amuse me, Babyosisiniqua! So now, because your uncles & cousins chose to have wives from the North, and your playmates had Calabar, Bendel, Rivers mothers, it proves that all other Igbos have followed suit, or those isolated cases now serve as an empirical standard for judging marital behaviour patterns among Nd'Igbo in your own view, because according to you "Igbos do not find it difficult to marry other tribes," or "'Igbos intermarry with other tribes a whole lot??"  Chei! Am sure other tribes like Edo, Rivers, Tiv etc. would probably make the same assertion. Ah, your reasoning is umridiculous, to put it mildly. If you had said: "Some Igbo inter-marry with other tribes". . . .ehen, it would have made more sense. But nah. . . .you had to exaggerate, and stretch the phrase a lot further than it should have gone, despite the fact that there is little evidence to support such a statement.  Anyway, I guess your playmates, cousins, village grandmas and uncles represent the entire Nd'Igbo. Who am I to argue with you???!  Yes, Igbos migrate a great deal. But when it comes to marriage, migration has had little influence on their marital choices or patterns. They keep close to their roots, (ain't nothing wrong with that!) and like Donzman once said they prefer to marry within their own ethnic group, for reasons of "cultural familiarity. " Hehehehe. . . . . .  So Babyosisiniqua, marriage is still very much a matter of individual preferences and endogenous cultural practice, regardless of how much migration an ethnic group does. The Fulani nomads are very well known and they migrate far and wide, within Nigeria. However, I doubt strongly if they ever take wives from those areas, where they migrate to, or if they give out their sons or daughters in marriage to the host communities, where their cattle graze. Another group that can be found in most parts of Nigeria are the Hausas. Most communities have one or two, either selling suya, or earning a living as tinkers, maiguards or carrying out some other occupation. How many of them have taken wives from the communities in which they live? Few. Am using all these examples, to show you that your generalisation that Igbo people do a lot of intertribal marriage, is too far-fetched.  Using your uncles, playmates, few village grandmothers as examples of Igbo inter-tribal marriage may hold true for just your own community, but it is not a true reflection of what goes on in every other community, in Alaigbo. Neither is it a pattern with a larger proportion of Nd'Igbo. So kindly stop generalising, and using migration as an excuse.  Like I said before, last time I checked marriage in Nigeria was still a matter of individual choice, prevailing cultural norms and societal patterns. Em. . . .you may choose to skip this too, since you cannot read long posts because you find them difficult to understand. 
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nitmare
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seun don't bother tracking me i have being sent to clean up
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laudate
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We even have such intertribal marriages amongst parents of some nairaland users where one is Igbo So I have all the evidence I need.
Oh I forgot to tell you, there have also been some posts on nairaland, where some folks complained that the parents of their Igbo boyfriends/girlfriends were not happy about them getting married to the girl/guy. That's another piece of evidence you missed. Go figure! 
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bullet05
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This an amazing topic and senseless argument, this is a case of tribe indifferences.no mentally safe people or tribe would love to marry outside their tribe.But as a result of development and exposure people from all tribes are intermarring now and will continue to be.Because igbo tribe is the supposed best tribe doesnot change anything at all.Igbo people intermarry with yoruba and hausa, and other tribes.
am Igbo, But what will never seize to amaze me is the rate at which Ibo girls swim in the sex market, its disgusting, please Igbo men lets caution our girls .its too much, and in thuggery,stealing and cultism, our people are the best.
And to the poster of this topic, .mind the topics u post, no more gender or ethnic sensitive posts, .A true Igbo man will never iron his dirty clothes in public, All tribes in this country have their good and bad sides,
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kulaShaker (f)
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lol got to love the arrogance This an amazing topic and senseless argument, this is a case of tribe indifferences.no mentally safe people or tribe would love to marry outside their tribe.But as a result of development and exposure people from all tribes are intermarring now and will continue to be.Because igbo tribe is the supposed best tribe doesnot change anything at all.Igbo people intermarry with yoruba and hausa, and other tribes.
no mentally safe people would love to marry out of their tribe?  am Igbo, But what will never seize to amaze me is the rate at which Ibo girls swim in the sex market, its disgusting, please Igbo men lets caution our girls .its too much, and in thuggery,stealing and cultism, our people are the best.
this arrogance is what astounds me, your comment though heart felt seems to have the underlining notion that your girls are prized far more than any other Nigerian girl or woman. when will people being to think for the good of the whole country instead of their own little safe boxes of ''tribes''? if you cared so much and you had such great empathy for women in general you would say '' lets all try to do something about Nigerian girls sold into the sex industry or slavery'' and this quote young man? our people are the best. amazing display of arrogance the very element distroying the fabric of the Nigerian society.  SHAME ON YOU. And to the poster of this topic, .mind the topics u post, no more gender or ethnic sensitive posts, .A true Igbo man will never iron his dirty clothes in public, All tribes in this country have their good and bad sides,
HAHAHAHA truly hilarious, you want the author to watch his or her posts, and you go on to talk of sensitivity? did you read your post before you clicked on the icon ''reply''? you go on to talk of a true Igbo man not airing his dirty linen blah blah, you just showed us your with skid marks and all! Really why can't we all just be Nigerians? i really am ashamed that people of my generation think like you and others here, really i see no hope , none at all 
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younghoodi (m)
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because they are natural heart breakers. 
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ifyalways (f)
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ABA 4 life Is nothing but errrrrrrrrrrr what a post  i wonder what he expects to be the conclusion or where it would lead to 
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janykute
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HAVEN"T HEARD FROM "ABA 4 LIFE" FOR A WHILE NOW SINCE HE POSTED THIS CONTROVERSIAL TOPIC,HOPE HE IS STILL OUTSIDE.
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