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babyosisi (f)
Re: Why Does Ibos Finds It Difficult To Marry From Yoruba Or Hausa?
« #128 on: August 20, 2007, 07:07 PM »

we are simply the best Grin
ekene dili Chukwu
kulaShaker (f)
Re: Why Does Ibos Finds It Difficult To Marry From Yoruba Or Hausa?
« #129 on: August 21, 2007, 11:36 AM »

yeah positive thinking is all well and good my dear , so try to save some for the rest of us folks , thinking you are simply the best can be a tad arrogant and bordering on narcissitic behaviour, a trait not so attractive when you think about it.  Wink

By the way the best at what? Tongue
laudate
Re: Why Does Ibos Finds It Difficult To Marry From Yoruba Or Hausa?
« #130 on: August 21, 2007, 01:18 PM »

Quote from: kulaShaker on August 20, 2007, 04:48 PM
answer to this question or thread is , because many Igbo people are quite tribalistic and generally prejudiced. its an opinion based on my personal experiences and observations gathered from Igbo friends and acquaintances

Stop looking for trouble. That remark about 'many Igbo people being tribalistic' is totally out of place, and quite uncalled for. Did you conduct a demographic survey among Nd'Igbo to find out how tribalistic they were, before you jumped to this conclusion? It is such sweeping generalisations spewed out without any proof, that spawns discord. Careful!  Sad
londoner
Re: Why Does Ibos Finds It Difficult To Marry From Yoruba Or Hausa?
« #131 on: August 21, 2007, 01:25 PM »

Most tribes in Nigeria (or anywhere else) are tribalistic when you think about it. It may help if people just ignore the trouble makers.

As far as the original question, I know people who have one Igbo and one Hausa parent or one Yoruba and one Igbo. It does happen, in fact you are more likely to see that than Hausa and Ijaw or Ibibio.

babyosisi (f)
Re: Why Does Ibos Finds It Difficult To Marry From Yoruba Or Hausa?
« #132 on: August 21, 2007, 04:25 PM »

londoner,you made a good observation.
Igbos intermarry with other tribes a whole lot.
We have hausa and Tiv grandmothers in my village married to Igbo men
I know an Igbo lady married to a Yoruba man and none of her siblings are married to Igbo and her parents are both Igbos and this is not uncommon.

The most intermarriage I think is between Igbos and Rivers state tribes or Igbos and Cross river and Akwa Ibom perhaps due to proximity.
So kulashaker don't hurt yourself over my statement biko.


we are  between simply the best at everything Grin
laudate
Re: Why Does Ibos Finds It Difficult To Marry From Yoruba Or Hausa?
« #133 on: August 21, 2007, 04:33 PM »

Quote from: babyosisi on August 21, 2007, 04:25 PM
londoner,you made a good observation.
Igbos intermarry with other tribes a whole lot.
We have hausa and Tiv grandmothers in my village married to Igbo men
I know an Igbo lady married to a Yoruba man and none of her siblings are married to Igbo and her parents are both Igbos and this is not uncommon.

The most intermarriage I think is between Igbos and Rivers state tribes or Igbos and Cross river and Akwa Ibom perhaps due to proximity.

Hmmn. . . . . .another generalisationUndecided

So one Igbo lady marries a Yoruba man, and you think that translates into 'Igbos intermarry with other tribes a whole lot?' Sheesh!! Shocked
I-man (m)
Re: Why Does Ibos Finds It Difficult To Marry From Yoruba Or Hausa?
« #134 on: August 21, 2007, 04:35 PM »

Quote from: laudate on August 21, 2007, 01:18 PM
Stop looking for trouble. That remark about 'many Igbo people being tribalistic' is totally out of place, and quite uncalled for. Did you conduct a demographic survey among Nd'Igbo to find out how tribalistic they were, before you jumped to this conclusion? It is such sweeping generalisations spewed out without any proof, that spawns discord. Careful!  Sad

Trying too hard to redeem your reputation  Grin We are not fooled.  Grin
laudate
Re: Why Does Ibos Finds It Difficult To Marry From Yoruba Or Hausa?
« #135 on: August 21, 2007, 04:40 PM »

Quote from: I-man on August 21, 2007, 04:35 PM
Trying too hard to redeem your reputation Grin We are not fooled. Grin

Nothing went wrong with my reputation in the first place. So there is absolutely nothing to redeem. Tongue

You on the other hand, have such a damaged reputation, which stinks to the high heavens. That's probably why you keep changing your identity at every whim, I-man a.k.a 4-play. Last time, you messed up so badly, that the only way to draw a curtain on your atrocities was to adopt a new identity! Or have you forgotten? Sad
babyosisi (f)
Re: Why Does Ibos Finds It Difficult To Marry From Yoruba Or Hausa?
« #136 on: August 21, 2007, 04:53 PM »

Quote from: laudate on August 21, 2007, 04:33 PM
Hmmn. . . . . .another generalisationUndecided

So one Igbo lady marries a Yoruba man, and you think that translates into 'Igbos intermarry with other tribes a whole lot?' Sheesh!! Shocked

did you read the rest of the post?
In nigeria we called it busy body,but your condition does have a diagnosis ADHD
Don't let your mouth function ahead of your brain!!
YOUNGDICE$ (m)
Re: Why Does Ibos Finds It Difficult To Marry From Yoruba Or Hausa?
« #137 on: August 21, 2007, 04:59 PM »

because THEY ARE NATURAL HEART BREAKERS. Tongue
londoner
Re: Why Does Ibos Finds It Difficult To Marry From Yoruba Or Hausa?
« #138 on: August 21, 2007, 05:12 PM »

Quote from: YOUNGDICE$ on August 21, 2007, 04:59 PM
because THEY ARE NATURAL HEART BREAKERS. Tongue

Oh so this is the root of your "anti- Igboness", lol, it makes perfect sense.

don't worry, time is a very good healer, lol

I would say, that of the three main tribes, the Igbo's socialise and live with other groups the most, its common for Igbos to travel around and live outside of Igbo land and adapt to different places and communities. many times this results in inter tribal marriages.

laudate
Re: Why Does Ibos Finds It Difficult To Marry From Yoruba Or Hausa?
« #139 on: August 21, 2007, 05:17 PM »

Quote from: babyosisi on August 21, 2007, 04:53 PM
did you read the rest of the post?
In nigeria we called it busy body,but your condition does have a diagnosis ADHD
Don't let your mouth function ahead of your brain!!

Oh yes, I read it. . . .and my earlier opinion has not changed. It is still long on generalisations and very short on facts! So, Hausa and Tiv grandmothers exist in your village. . . .em, how many are they compared with the total population, that would lead you to conclude that 'Igbos intermarry with other tribes a whole lot,'ehn?? By the way, you need to take it easy. . . .stop trying to diagnose a non-existent condition, for someone who is in a healthy frame of mind. Those that are well, do not need a physician.

Did you conduct a survey from Nnewi to Abagana in Anambra, through Ngor Okpala, Mbaise, and Oguta etc. in Imo, down to Izzi, Ezza and other parts of Ebonyi or Udi, Achi, Oji River, Nkanu area etc. in Enugu State as well as  several other towns and villages in Alaigbo, to find out if this state of affairs was replicated through out the length and breadth of Alaigbo, before you jumped to the conclusion that. . . .'Igbos intermarry with other tribes a whole lot,'?? Huh

Or did you just base your 'subjective analysis' on the fact that cases of inter-marriages have occurred among some Igbo and a few neighbouring tribes, such as some of those contracted by the Efik/Ibibio with the Bende, Ngwa or Item of Abia, before you concluded that. . . .'Igbos intermarry with other tribes a whole lot,'?? Are neighbouring ethnic groups that share borders with the eastern flank of Alaigbo, the true representatives of ALL other ethnic groups or tribes, in Nigeria? Undecided

Last time I checked, over a hundred ethnic groups existed in Nigeria. I would like to know which proportion of them you surveyed, before you came to your very interesting conclusion. I would also like to know how you gathered your data on inter-ethnic couples and the frequency of marriages that have been contracted among Nd'Igbo and people from other ethnic groups nationwide, before you came up with this view.

Just curious.  Tongue
babyosisi (f)
Re: Why Does Ibos Finds It Difficult To Marry From Yoruba Or Hausa?
« #140 on: August 21, 2007, 06:53 PM »


Stop trying to sound intelligent 'because you ain't!! and it shows vividly.
talking round and round in circles without making a single point is pure stupidity.

If it pains you that much that Igbos do a lot of intertribal marriage,go jump into The Charles River   Grin

I bet if I or anyone had claimed that Igbos don't intermarry that much you would have been beating your chesticles to attempt to proove the individual wrong.
do more google searches,your authors on Igbo naming ceremonies and Igbo kingdoms of Eze may have published one on intertribal marriages too. Grin

A  typical case of a woman in Ozubulu that claims to know when it rains in Kafanchan by simply holding up her kunu and pointing it northwards Grin
laudate
Re: Why Does Ibos Finds It Difficult To Marry From Yoruba Or Hausa?
« #141 on: August 22, 2007, 11:35 AM »

Quote from: babyosisi on August 21, 2007, 06:53 PM
Stop trying to sound intelligent 'because you ain't!! and it shows vividly.
talking round and round in circles without making a single point is pure stupidity.

If it pains you that much that Igbos do a lot of intertribal marriage,go jump into The Charles River   Grin

I bet if I or anyone had claimed that Igbos don't intermarry that much you would have been beating your chesticles to attempt to proove the individual wrong.
do more google searches,your authors on Igbo naming ceremonies and Igbo kingdoms of Eze may have published one on intertribal marriages too. Grin

A  typical case of a woman in Ozubulu that claims to know when it rains in Kafanchan by simply holding up her kunu and pointing it northwards Grin

Why are you getting all hot and bothered under the collar?? And who is conducting a comparison on aptitude and intelligence here? Is it you? Na wa o! As for jumping into  The Charles River, because of "inter-tribal marriages among the Igbo", to use your own words. . . .Madam, I'll leave that to you, since you are so badly upset about it. I ain't Igbo, so why should I take panadol for your own headache? Cheesy

The points I raised in my last post, were plain enough for any one to decode or understand. So why were you talking about going round in circles? Do you need a tutor? Grin

You claimed in your previous post that 'Igbos intermarry with other tribes a whole lot,'" do you remember? Good. I asked you if you had conducted a survey  into this issue, among Nd'Igbo in all other parts of Alaigbo. Instead of saying a plain 'yes' or 'no', like any reasonable adult would, you resorted to spewing banal insults and tried to cover it up with a smiley or a grinning icon. Anyway, that has always been your style, so am not suprised.

As for the analogy about kunu and a woman in Ozubulu. . . .ah, I'll leave you to interprete it for those who cannot make sense of it, because quite frankly, it has no bearing on the topic being discussed.  Wink

. . . . . .and for the last time, your assertion that Igbos do a lot of inter-tribal marriage, is. . . . . .um, rather too far-fetched. The Efik, Ibibio, Annang do not represent all other tribes in Nigeria, Madam. I guess it is too hard for you to understand that, while inter-ethnic marriages occur among border communities, (e.g. some of those that take place between Abia people and their close neighbours like the Efik, Ibibio et al,), such patterns do not hold true for all other members of those same ethnic groups, (or other tribes) who are far removed from border towns. Go figure! Wink

One last question: how many Igbo folks are married to Hausa, Kanuri, Fulani, Bachama, or even Yoruba etc. people? What is the proportion of Igbo-to-Igbo marriages, when compared with those of Igbo-to-Other Ethnic Groups? Please look at these factors objectively, before you conclude that 'Igbos intermarry with other tribes a whole lot,. . . .um?? Huh
darfur (m)
Re: Why Does Ibos Finds It Difficult To Marry From Yoruba Or Hausa?
« #142 on: August 22, 2007, 12:24 PM »

there seems to be something between babyosisi and laudate Undecided . very minor issues become subjects of heated debates . . . . . . Undecided hmmmn.

grafikdon (m)
Re: Why Does Ibos Finds It Difficult To Marry From Yoruba Or Hausa?
« #143 on: August 22, 2007, 12:39 PM »

@darfur,  don't mind the fake fights between Babyosisiniquia and Ilaudatia, they are actually good buddies. . .  Cheesy
moondust (m)
Re: Why Does Ibos Finds It Difficult To Marry From Yoruba Or Hausa?
« #144 on: August 22, 2007, 12:54 PM »

all this debate never even start to answer the question at all. . . Babayosisi and Laudate I sense reverse attraction between u both. U guys should exchange numbers and get it on please
BASETSANA (f)
Re: Why Does Ibos Finds It Difficult To Marry From Yoruba Or Hausa?
« #145 on: August 22, 2007, 01:22 PM »

lgbo men in South Africa are now marrying  South Africans so l think Mr Poster you being outdated!
kulaShaker (f)
Re: Why Does Ibos Finds It Difficult To Marry From Yoruba Or Hausa?
« #146 on: August 22, 2007, 07:05 PM »

lmao the most tribalist folks in Nairaland playing UN peace makers lmao . too damn funny.

if you care to read and digest you will see no harm from my end. i don't play in that camp of stonethrowers and tribal madness. take these two words , personal observation, experience , now digest them well well and use that intelligent brain i am sure you have . My opinion is still and always will remain my own, my experience will still and always will remain my own.


madam osisi biko best at what ?  Tongue don't think i don't see you generalising on this forum calling other tribes this that and the other. but its all good. lol like i said tone down on it . i am one for a 1 Nigeria and a united Nigeria, always. God bless you in advance lol
babyosisi (f)
Re: Why Does Ibos Finds It Difficult To Marry From Yoruba Or Hausa?
« #147 on: August 22, 2007, 07:50 PM »

I read long and interesting posts from the likes of blackmamba,TayoD, and Pilgrim
Those are some  smart folks
If you Ms Laudate can't make your points in a few short sentences
I skip over them. Grin


now back to the topic

Igbos do not find it difficult to marry other tribes.
There are indeed countless Igbos with spouses from other areas (rephrasing may help laudatenisha)
Several Rivers state indigenes have Igbo mothers and grandmothers.
Just a quick look at Naija politicians any person with some intelligence will notice all the Igbo wives of non Igbo men.

Igbos are the most travelled within Nigeria and it's not uncommon for them to take on wives from the locality they're in.
Most of my family grew up  in northern Nigeria and I have uncles and first cousins with wives from Kaduna Jos and Maiduguri area.
I have great uncles with Calabar wives.
I grew up with playmates with Calabar,'bendel" and Yoruba mothers.
In secondary school I had (still have)friends with Igbo moms and their dads are Yoruba,Edo and Kalabari and vice versa.
We even have such intertribal marriages amongst parents of some nairaland users where one is Igbo
So I have all the evidence I need.

Igbos are the best,I don't care who it's paining Tongue


kulashaker,now do you really believe me when I say any tribe is better than another
don't you people have a sense of humor?
sheesh

kulaShaker (f)
Re: Why Does Ibos Finds It Difficult To Marry From Yoruba Or Hausa?
« #148 on: August 22, 2007, 08:00 PM »


Quote from: babyosisi on August 22, 2007, 07:50 PM
I read long and interesting posts from the likes of blackmamba,TayoD, and Pilgrim
Those are some smart folks
If you Ms Laudate can't make your points in a few short sentences
I skip over them. Grin


now back to the topic


kulashaker,now do you really believe me when I say any tribe is better than another
don't you people have a sense of humor?
sheesh



sorry did i miss the punch line? lol . take a joke?
oh oh i see , i get it now ''D'oh! '' the joke was Igbos are simply the best right? now i geddit!  Cheesy aww sorry Osisi i am a bit slow on the uptake tonight Tongue
babyosisi (f)
Re: Why Does Ibos Finds It Difficult To Marry From Yoruba Or Hausa?
« #149 on: August 22, 2007, 08:11 PM »

 Huh Huh Huh
kulaShaker (f)
Re: Why Does Ibos Finds It Difficult To Marry From Yoruba Or Hausa?
« #150 on: August 22, 2007, 08:12 PM »

lol , i knew i was the one with the sense of humour Wink
laudate
Re: Why Does Ibos Finds It Difficult To Marry From Yoruba Or Hausa?
« #151 on: August 23, 2007, 10:58 AM »

Quote from: babyosisi on August 22, 2007, 07:50 PM
I read long and interesting posts from the likes of blackmamba,TayoD, and Pilgrim
Those are some smart folks
If you Ms Laudate can't make your points in a few short sentences
I skip over them. Grin


now back to the topic

Igbos do not find it difficult to marry other tribes.
There are indeed countless Igbos with spouses from other areas (rephrasing may help laudatenisha)
Several Rivers state indigenes have Igbo mothers and grandmothers.
Just a quick look at Naija politicians any person with some intelligence will notice all the Igbo wives of non Igbo men.

Igbos are the most travelled within Nigeria and it's not uncommon for them to take on wives from the locality they're in.
Most of my family grew up in northern Nigeria and I have uncles and first cousins with wives from Kaduna Jos and Maiduguri area.
I have great uncles with Calabar wives.
I grew up with playmates with Calabar,'bendel" and Yoruba mothers.
In secondary school I had (still have)friends with Igbo moms and their dads are Yoruba,Edo and Kalabari and vice versa.
We even have such intertribal marriages amongst parents of some nairaland users where one is Igbo
So I have all the evidence I need.

You will never cease to amuse me, Babyosisiniqua! So now, because your uncles & cousins chose to have wives from the North, and your playmates had Calabar, Bendel, Rivers mothers, it proves that all other Igbos have followed suit, or those isolated cases now serve as an empirical standard for judging marital behaviour patterns among Nd'Igbo in your own view, because according to you"Igbos do not find it difficult to marry other tribes," or "'Igbos intermarry with other tribes a whole lot??" Huh Chei! Am sure other tribes like Edo, Rivers, Tiv etc. would probably make the same assertion. Ah, your reasoning is umridiculous, to put it mildly.

If you had said: "Some Igbo inter-marry with other tribes". . . .ehen, it would have made more sense. But nah. . . .you had to exaggerate, and stretch the phrase a lot further than it should have gone, despite the fact that there is little evidence to support such a statement. Grin Anyway, I guess your playmates, cousins, village grandmas and uncles represent the entire Nd'Igbo. Who am I to argue with you???! Tongue

Yes, Igbos migrate a great deal. But when it comes to marriage, migration has had little influence on their marital choices or patterns. They keep close to their roots, (ain't nothing wrong with that!) and like Donzman once said they prefer to marry within their own ethnic group, for reasons of "cultural familiarity. " Hehehehe. . . . . . Grin

So Babyosisiniqua, marriage is still very much a matter of individual preferences and endogenous cultural practice, regardless of how much migration an ethnic group does. The Fulani nomads are very well known and they migrate far and wide, within Nigeria. However, I doubt strongly if they ever take wives from those areas, where they migrate to, or if they give out their sons or daughters in marriage to the host communities, where their cattle graze. Another group that can be found in most parts of Nigeria are the Hausas. Most communities have one or two, either selling suya, or earning a living as tinkers, maiguards or carrying out some other occupation. How many of them have taken wives from the communities in which they live? Few.

Am using all these examples, to show you that your generalisation that Igbo people do a lot of intertribal marriage, is too far-fetched. Wink Using your uncles, playmates, few village grandmothers as examples of Igbo inter-tribal marriage may hold true for just your own community, but it is not a true reflection of what goes on in every other community, in Alaigbo. Neither is it a pattern with a larger proportion of Nd'Igbo. So kindly stop generalising, and using migration as an excuse.  Sad

Like I said before, last time I checked marriage in Nigeria was still a matter of individual choice, prevailing cultural norms and societal patterns.

Em. . . .you may choose to skip this too, since you cannot read long posts because you find them difficult to understand. Grin
nitmare
i am here to sanitise nairaland
« #152 on: August 23, 2007, 11:05 AM »

seun don't bother tracking me i have being sent to clean up
laudate
Re: Why Does Ibos Finds It Difficult To Marry From Yoruba Or Hausa?
« #153 on: August 23, 2007, 11:06 AM »

Quote from: babyosisi on August 22, 2007, 07:50 PM
We even have such intertribal marriages amongst parents of some nairaland users where one is Igbo
So I have all the evidence I need.

Oh I forgot to tell you, there have also been some posts on nairaland, where some folks complained that the parents of their Igbo boyfriends/girlfriends were not happy about them getting married to the girl/guy. That's another piece of evidence you missed. Go figure! Grin
bullet05
Re: Why Does Ibos Finds It Difficult To Marry From Yoruba Or Hausa?
« #154 on: August 23, 2007, 12:39 PM »

This an amazing topic and senseless argument, this is a case of tribe indifferences.no mentally safe people or tribe would love to marry outside their tribe.But as a result of development and exposure people from all tribes are intermarring now and will continue to be.Because igbo tribe is the supposed best tribe doesnot change anything at all.Igbo people intermarry with yoruba and hausa, and other tribes.

am Igbo,
But what will never seize to amaze me is the rate at which Ibo girls swim in the sex market, its disgusting, please Igbo men lets caution our girls .its too much, and in thuggery,stealing and cultism, our people are the best.

And to the poster of this topic,
.mind the topics u post, no more gender or ethnic sensitive posts,
.A true Igbo man will never iron his dirty clothes in public, All tribes in this country have their good and bad sides,
kulaShaker (f)
Re: Why Does Ibos Finds It Difficult To Marry From Yoruba Or Hausa?
« #155 on: August 23, 2007, 12:57 PM »

lol got to love the arrogance


Quote from: bullet05 on August 23, 2007, 12:39 PM
This an amazing topic and senseless argument, this is a case of tribe indifferences.no mentally safe people or tribe would love to marry outside their tribe.But as a result of development and exposure people from all tribes are intermarring now and will continue to be.Because igbo tribe is the supposed best tribe doesnot change anything at all.Igbo people intermarry with yoruba and hausa, and other tribes.


no mentally safe people would love to marry out of their tribe?  Undecided Undecided Undecided Undecided Undecided Undecided Undecided Huh Huh Huh Huh

Quote from: bullet05 on August 23, 2007, 12:39 PM

am Igbo,
But what will never seize to amaze me is the rate at which Ibo girls swim in the sex market, its disgusting, please Igbo men lets caution our girls .its too much, and in thuggery,stealing and cultism, our people are the best.


this arrogance is what astounds me, your comment though heart felt seems to have the underlining notion that your girls are prized far more than any other Nigerian girl or woman.  when will people being to think for the good of the whole country instead of their own little safe boxes of ''tribes''? if you cared so much and you had such great empathy for women in general you would say '' lets all try to do something about Nigerian girls sold into the sex industry or slavery'' and this quote young man? 
Quote
our people are the best.
  amazing display of arrogance the very element distroying the fabric of the Nigerian society. Embarrassed Embarrassed Embarrassed Embarrassed SHAME ON YOU.

Quote from: bullet05 on August 23, 2007, 12:39 PM
And to the poster of this topic,
.mind the topics u post, no more gender or ethnic sensitive posts,
.A true Igbo man will never iron his dirty clothes in public, All tribes in this country have their good and bad sides,


HAHAHAHA truly hilarious, you want the author to watch his or her posts, and you go on to talk of sensitivity? did you read your post before you clicked  on the icon ''reply''?

you go on to talk of a true Igbo man not airing his dirty linen blah blah, you just showed us your with skid marks and all!

Really why can't we all just be Nigerians? i really am ashamed that people of my generation think like you and others here, really i see no hope , none at all  Cry
stillwater (f)
Re: Why Does Ibos Finds It Difficult To Marry From Yoruba Or Hausa?
« #156 on: November 21, 2007, 06:57 PM »

There's a prayer I always pray-- whoever wants to start a war or divide Nigeria, war would start in his/her house and end in his/her house, Amen. Angry Angry Angry Angry What a stupid post!!!
younghoodi (m)
Re: Why Does Ibos Finds It Difficult To Marry From Yoruba Or Hausa?
« #157 on: November 21, 2007, 08:55 PM »

because they are natural heart breakers. Tongue
ifyalways (f)
Re: Why Does Ibos Finds It Difficult To Marry From Yoruba Or Hausa?
« #158 on: November 23, 2007, 12:59 AM »

ABA 4 life Is nothing but errrrrrrrrrrr
what a post  Embarrassed
i wonder what he expects to be the conclusion or where it would lead to  Undecided
janykute
Re: Why Does Ibos Finds It Difficult To Marry From Yoruba Or Hausa?
« #159 on: December 26, 2007, 02:33 AM »

HAVEN"T HEARD FROM "ABA 4 LIFE" FOR A WHILE NOW SINCE HE POSTED THIS CONTROVERSIAL TOPIC,HOPE HE IS STILL OUTSIDE.
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