Alcohol

If achohol fries your liver why do it?

Moderate is not good. There's such a term as "long run"

Didn't Jesus make wine? Doesn't Paul advise 'take a little wine'?

If Christians shouldn't drink alcohol so as not to damage/pollute their bodies, there's a lot of other stuff they should give up as well. Fatty food makes you obese and unhealthy, sugary food does the same, plus rots your teeth and can lead to diabetes etc etc,

moderate alcohol actually has a lot of health benefits.

Common people, where did you read that the story with paul and Jesus were cases of alcholic drinks.
I'm not saying they were not, but where did you get you information?

When you read "Christian" communion there let me remind you that it doesn't refer to information from all churches. The world generalises using the catholic church for such matters. And please no offensiveness intended to any catholic person.

Wine can be either alchoholic or non-alchoholic.

In most texts of the Bible where the word wine appears, it is represented often as alchoholic or intoxicating. That this is the case is especially why Eph. 5:18 contrasts its result to that of the Spirit-filled life.

However, that verse should not be taken to mean that the whole Bible condemns the drinking of wine. Not at all. We already note that the apostle Paul recommended it in moderation to Timothy - "for thy stomach's sake and thine often infirmities" (1 Tim. 5:23). And certainly, we can't study the life of Timothy and come away with the idea that he wasn't Spirit-filled either!

I don't drink alchoholic wine - and that's my choice. But I would rather not make my own personal choice the rule of thumb for any other believer. Each one should be fully persuaded in his or her own heart as to what lifestyle best suits them:

         the Spirit-filled life

                 or

         the bottle-filled life.

God bless all.

I don't think taking such constitutes 'sinning' (unless you tif am! ).

Anyhow, there are also sweets with alchohol in them (even so, I don't take them - there again, my choice) - and helping one's self to a few treats does not constitute 'sinning'.

The question for me is much more than "moderation" and "excess" (although they're very important as well). It's all a matter of what lifestyle appertains to my wholistic life - a Spirit-FILLED life, or a bottled-FILLED life.

I know of a friend who takes 'em in "moderation". She kids about taking them in 'moderation' in the a.m., 'moderation' in the p.m., 'moderation' the next day. . . etc. At the end of the week, she's had some 13 bottles of straight Vodka - all measured out in "moderation" as she sips 'em!

Would I hold her as a 'sinning' angel? Nope. She has a clear head when needs be (e.g., you can't cheat her of a nickle! ).

Okay, seriously now. I wouldn't say someone who enjoys wine in moderation is a sinner. I'D rather share with them that I love them all the same in Christ, whether they enjoy wine or not. My personal choice is NOT the rule - each one should be fully persuaded in their own hearts.

Lol, pilgrim

anything in excess is bad

too muc sweets, too much alchohol n so on

So whut i still stand on is Moderation for yourself, whut is moderate to me may not be moderate to another person
so its relative.

Just don't take in excess,
it kills u,
Dont get drunk and have a leave of your senses please.

lol

yeah

Wow-my first message!!!!
I am a born-again guy. I ran away from God for almost 7 years. Now I am found.
Alcohol; I dun think A Christian should not drink alcohol or beer or wine, ( to me they are the same). All powerful! No one can take action to them. I thought just taking or drinking alcohol is OK--I was wrong. If you drink it whether moderately or socially or any-style, you would be in trouble sooner or later. Your Christian life will, not would, not surely be straight forward!

In Proverb, we are not allowed even to look at it, (verse escapes me),

Dun get me wrong dude