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software (m)
Help On Subnetwork
« on: July 24, 2007, 07:40 PM »

Hi Guys, i need some help on this.  thanks





The major network IP number is 8.0.0.0/23:
1.   How many host bits are there before subnetting? _____
2.   How many host bits are there after subnetting? _____
3.   How many host bits were borrowed to subnet? _____
4.   How many usable hosts per subnet are there? _____
5.   What is the subnet mask written in dotted decimal? _______._____._____._____
6.   What is the subnet IP number of subnet 800? _____._____._____._____
7.   What is the broadcast IP number of subnet 800? _____._____._____._____
8.   What are the usable host IP numbers of subnet 800?
   _____._____._____._____  through  _____._____._____._____


The major network IP number is 191.48.0.0/25:
9.   How many host bits are there before subnetting? _____
10.   How many host bits are there after subnetting? _____
11.   How many host bits were borrowed to subnet? _____
12.   How many usable subnets are there? _____
13.   What is the subnet mask written in dotted decimal? _______._____._____._____
14.   What is the subnet IP number of subnet 500? _____._____._____._____
15.   What is the broadcast IP number of subnet 500? _____._____._____._____
16.   What are the usable host IP numbers of subnet 500?
_____._____._____._____  through  _____._____.______.______
nbeet2000 (m)
Re: Help On Subnetwork
« #1 on: July 24, 2007, 07:51 PM »

What sort of help you need??
software (m)
Re: Help On Subnetwork
« #2 on: July 24, 2007, 08:04 PM »



The major network IP number is 8.0.0.0/23:
1.   How many host bits are there before subnetting? _____
2.   How many host bits are there after subnetting? _____
3.   How many host bits were borrowed to subnet? _____
4.   How many usable hosts per subnet are there? _____
5.   What is the subnet mask written in dotted decimal? _______._____._____._____
6.   What is the subnet IP number of subnet 800? _____._____._____._____
7.   What is the broadcast IP number of subnet 800? _____._____._____._____
8.   What are the usable host IP numbers of subnet 800?
   _____._____._____._____  through  _____._____._____._____


The major network IP number is 191.48.0.0/25:
9.   How many host bits are there before subnetting? _____
10.   How many host bits are there after subnetting? _____
11.   How many host bits were borrowed to subnet? _____
12.   How many usable subnets are there? _____
13.   What is the subnet mask written in dotted decimal? _______._____._____._____
14.   What is the subnet IP number of subnet 500? _____._____._____._____
15.   What is the broadcast IP number of subnet 500? _____._____._____._____
16.   What are the usable host IP numbers of subnet 500?
_____._____._____._____  through  _____._____.______.______
Maleeq (m)
Re: Help On Subnetwork
« #3 on: July 24, 2007, 09:36 PM »

@software

Are you trying to get your assignment done for you?
software (m)
Re: Help On Subnetwork
« #4 on: July 24, 2007, 10:25 PM »

Quote from: Maleeq on July 24, 2007, 09:36 PM
@software

Are you trying to get your assignment done for you?

Nope, its not an assignment,  Just preparing for an Exam and this is an aspect of it i dont understand,  Its just a past question, 

Am actually studying about it. Just that i need them answered for me so i could learn faster,
Maleeq (m)
Re: Help On Subnetwork
« #5 on: July 25, 2007, 03:28 PM »

Okay, since you boldly placed the CCNA title on your signature, I shall skip some basics and get down to the real deal.


Network ID =    8.0.0.0
Mask=               /23 = 255.255.254.0

Note:
1. 24bits.     
Explanation:
class A addresses use a default mask of 255.0.0.0, which leaves 22bits for subnetting since you
must leave 2bits for host addressing.

2. we are subnetting using the /23  mask, thus we have
         11111111.11111111.11111110.00000000
   (Count the bits that are off) = 9bits

N.B: x = number of off bits = 9
       y = number of on bits  = 23 - 8(from the default class A mask)
                                           = 15

3. Compare with the default mask;
         /8 = 11111111.00000000.00000000.00000000
         /23= 11111111.11111111.11111110.00000000
   Borrowed bits = 15bits

4. Usable host per subnet:
         2^x - 2
         2^9 - 2
            = 510

5. /23 = 255.255.254.0 in dotted decimal

6. Network ID for Subnet 800:
      To get the network multiplier factor, we have
            256 - 254 = 2
      Thus, we av our networks as;
#         Network                  Range                     Broadcast
1       8.0.2.0         8.0.2.1 - 8.0.3.254           8.0.3.255
2          8.0.4.0          8.0.4.1 - 8.0.5.254            8.0.5.255
3            8.0.6.0         8.0.6.1 - 8.0.7.254         8.0.7.255
.
.
.
.
32766      8.255.252.0         8.255.252.1 - 8.255.253.254         8.255.253.255



Extrapolating  to # 800,
   800 in binary = 11 0010 0000
   We now pick the /23 in binary for comparison
   /23 = 11111111.11111111.11111110.00000000
   write out, from right to left, the 800 in binary starting from under the 1st '1' in the /23 mask
   i.e
   11111111.11111111.11111110.00000000
   XXXXXXXX.XXXXX110.0100000X.XXXXXXXX
   
   Perform a binary to decimal conversion: (treat the x as a '0')
   XXXXX110 = 6
   0100000X = 64
   
   thus, the network ID for subnet 800 is
         8.6.64.0

7. The broadcast address for subnet 800 is thus:
      8.6.65.255 (Follow the logic at the start of the solution to question 6)

8. Usable address for hosts;
         8.6.64.1 - 8.6.65.254         


The same applies for the other network in the second question. Just follow the same procedures. I will leave that one out for you to practice on.

Good luck in your career advancement drive.
software (m)
Re: Help On Subnetwork
« #6 on: July 25, 2007, 07:44 PM »

thanks so much Maleek

I really must thank your for the great support,  It was well understood. I have been able to solve the second part myself, 

God bless ,  Thank you NL
Maleeq (m)
Re: Help On Subnetwork
« #7 on: July 26, 2007, 06:05 AM »

@software

No wahala. Take care
software (m)
Re: Help On Subnetwork
« #8 on: July 26, 2007, 07:19 AM »

Quote from: Maleeq on July 26, 2007, 06:05 AM
@software

No wahala. Take care

thanks bro
software (m)
Re: Help On Subnetwork
« #9 on: July 29, 2007, 08:34 PM »

hi Maleeq

The Second part of the questions u assisted me with the other day,  My results came out, and i failed the second part of it. But i got the first part right, 

Pls i would like you to kindly still throw more light on it for me,  It would greatly be apprciated, 
Thanks



The major network IP number is 191.48.0.0/25:
9.   How many host bits are there before subnetting? _____16bits
10.   How many host bits are there after subnetting? _____
11.   How many host bits were borrowed to subnet? _____
12.   How many usable subnets are there? _____
13.   What is the subnet mask written in dotted decimal? _______._____._____._____
14.   What is the subnet IP number of subnet 500? _____._____._____._____
15.   What is the broadcast IP number of subnet 500? _____._____._____._____
16.   What are the usable host IP numbers of subnet 500?
_____._____._____._____  through  _____._____.______.______
software (m)
Re: Help On Subnetwork
« #10 on: July 29, 2007, 08:46 PM »

Attached to this post, is a MSWord Doc, Please kindly hell me go through, 

Anyhelp would be greatly appreciated,  I need explanations also. THanks  

Thanks in advance

Final_Exam.doc
* Final_Exam.doc (72 KB - downloaded )
Maleeq (m)
Re: Help On Subnetwork
« #11 on: July 31, 2007, 01:13 PM »

Here the solution to the second one. I'll get the final exam's solution to you later.


Network ID =    191.48.0.0/25 8.0.0.0
Mask=               /25 = 255.255.255.128

Note:
1. 16bits.     
Explanation:
class B addresses use a default mask of 255.255.0.0 (/16), which leaves 14bits for subnetting since you
must leave 2bits for host addressing.

2. we are subnetting using the /25  mask, thus we have
         11111111.11111111.11111111.10000000
   (Count the bits that are off) = 7bits

N.B: x = number of off bits = 7
       y = number of on bits  = 25 - 16(from the default class A mask)
                                           = 9

3. Compare with the default mask;
         /16 = 11111111.11111111.00000000.00000000
         /25 = 11111111.11111111.11111111.10000000
   Borrowed bits = 9bits

4. Usable host per subnet:
         2^x - 2
         2^7 - 2
            = 126

5. /25 = 255.255.255.128 in dotted decimal
#   ID   Range   Broadcast
510   191.48.255.0   191.48.255.1 - 191.48.255.126   191.48.255.127

6. Network ID for Subnet 800:
      To get the network multiplier factor, we have
            256 - 128 = 128
      Thus, we av our networks as;
#         Network                  Range                     Broadcast
1       191.48.0.128         191.48.0.129 - 191.48.0.254           191.48.0.255
2          191.48.1.128          191.48.1.129 - 191.48.1.254            191.48.1.255
3            191.48.2.0         191.48.2.1 - 191.48.2.126         191.48.2.127
.
.
.
.
510         191.48.255.0         191.48.255.1 - 191.48.255.126         191.48.255.127



Extrapolating  to # 500,
   500 in binary = 1 1111 0100
   We now pick the /25 in binary for comparison
   /25 = 11111111.11111111.11111111.10000000
   write out, from right to left, the 500 in binary starting from under the 1st '1' in the /25 mask
   i.e
   11111111.11111111.11111111.10000000
   XXXXXXXX.XXXXXXXX.11111010.0XXXXXXX
   
   Perform a binary to decimal conversion: (treat the x as a '0')
   11111010 = 250
   0XXXXXXX = 0
   
   thus, the network ID for subnet 500 is
         191.48.250.0

7. The broadcast address for subnet 800 is thus:
      191.48.250.127 (Follow the logic at the start of the solution to question 6)

8. Usable address for hosts;
         191.48.250.1 - 191.48.250.126         
soldier4gd
Re: Help On Subnetwork
« #12 on: December 11, 2007, 05:23 PM »

Maleeq:

What advice did you give the user called "software" in reference to the attachment he posted on July 29, 2007 (Help On Subnetwork)? I have a similar problem in which I am trying to understand.  The attachment was concerning VLSM.
Maleeq (m)
Re: Help On Subnetwork
« #13 on: December 11, 2007, 11:38 PM »

@soldier4gd

Men, its been a long time. I cant remember the exact solution I offered him (software). I shall attempt is once more for you.

Here we go:

1- I couldn't make out how to use, thats if the solution requires we use the table with values provided in them. So, I'll just take it as though the table was not provided.

2- We have a total of  120 + 50 + 25 + 2 + 2 = 197Hosts that we must accommodate in our addressing scheme. . .thus a minimum of 8bits for subnetting. Base address = /24. Starting with the network segment that has the most host(Houston, 120Hosts):

Network Address: 220.108.38.0
For 120Hosts, we need 7bits for subnetting:
   2^7 - 2 = 126 possible hosts
  7Bits = 1000 0000
Thus for Houston:
Address: 220.108.38.0/25
This runs from 220.108.38.1 - 220.138.38.127

The next available block would be 220.138.38.128 block

For 50Hosts(Waco segment), we need at least 6 bits
   2^6 - 2  = 62 possible hosts
   6Bits = 1100 0000
Thus for Waco:
Address: 220.108.38.128/26
This runs from 220.108.38.129 - 220.108.38.191

Next block would be 220.138.38.192

For the 25Host(Corpus Cristi Segment), we nee at least 5bits
   2^5 -2  = 30 possible hosts
  5Bits  = 1110 0000
Thus for Corpus Cristi
Address: 220.108.38.192/27
This runs from 220.108.38.193 - 220.108.38.223

Next block would be 220.108.38.224

For the WAN links, we need only 2 address. Thus,2bits mask is required
   2^2 - 2 = 2 possible hosts
  2Bits     = 1111 1100
WAN #1:
Address: 220.108.38.224/30
This spans 220.108.38.225 - 220.108.38.227

WAN #2:
Address: 220.108.38.228/30


Thats all!

There's some standard chart used that simplifies VLSM/CIDR, but I dont a copy of the chart right now. This is the best I can offer right now. If you need any more clarification, dont hesitate to ask me.

Cheers
soldier4gd
Re: Help On Subnetwork
« #14 on: December 15, 2007, 02:33 PM »

Did you mean to put 220.138.38.128 or is it suppose to be 220.108.38.128? Also, are the ranges considered to the but subnet ranges?
soldier4gd
Re: Help On Subnetwork
« #15 on: December 15, 2007, 02:34 PM »

Did you mean to put 220.138.38.128 or is it suppose to be 220.108.38.128? Also, are the ranges considered to be subnet ranges?
Maleeq (m)
Re: Help On Subnetwork
« #16 on: December 15, 2007, 10:44 PM »

C'mon, you should know that 220.138.38.x was a typographical error. The network address we were assigned is 220.108.38.0

And yes, they are subnet ranges.
gabby74
Re: Help On Subnetwork
« #17 on: April 20, 2009, 01:57 AM »

The major network IP number is 12.0.0.0/23:
1.   How many host bits are there before subnetting? _____
2.   How many host bits are there after subnetting? _____
3.   How many host bits were borrowed to subnet? _____
4.   How many usable hosts per subnet are there? _____
5.   How many usable subnets are there? _____
6.   What is the subnet mask written in dotted decimal? _______._____._____._____
7.   What is the subnet mask written in hex-decimal?
8.   What is the subnet IP number of subnet 731? _____._____._____._____
9.   What is the broadcast IP number of subnet 731? _____._____._____._____
10.   What are the usable host IP numbers of subnet 731?
Maleeq (m)
Re: Help On Subnetwork
« #18 on: April 21, 2009, 10:43 AM »

@gabby74

This problem you have stated here is actually about the same as the initial poster's problem. Both addresses are in the CLASS A scheme, thus no much difference.
Follow the explanation here closely and you will see the solution easily.

Attempt it, and paste your solution here for correction wherever necessary. Believe me, you'd learn faster that way.
gabby74
Re: Help On Subnetwork
« #19 on: April 21, 2009, 11:35 AM »

ok maleek i will do that because i really want to learn
gabby74
Re: Help On Subnetwork
« #20 on: April 22, 2009, 02:03 AM »

Ok, Maleek, I have tried my best so do help me out. this is something new to me to your help would be very much appreciated.
The major network IP number is 12.0.0.0/23:
1.   How many host bits are there before subnetting? __24___
2.   How many host bits are there after subnetting? __15___
3.   How many host bits were borrowed to subnet? __15___
4.   How many usable hosts per subnet are there? ___510__
5.   How many usable subnets are there? ____
6.   What is the subnet mask written in dotted decimal? __255____._255____.__254___.___0__
7.   What is the subnet mask written in hex-decimal?
8.   What is the subnet IP number of subnet 731? _____._____._____._____
9.   What is the broadcast IP number of subnet 731? _____._____._____._____
10.   What are the usable host IP numbers of subnet 731?
   _____._____._____._____  through  _____._____._____._____
Don’t forget to define starting subnet indices (you may assume Subnet


  • The major network IP number is 188.49.0.0/25:
    11.   How many host bits are there before subnetting? __14___
    12.   How many host bits are there after subnetting? _7____
    13.   How many host bits were borrowed to subnet? __9___
    14.   How many usable hosts per subnet are there? ___126__
    15.   How many usable subnets are there? _____
    16.   What is the subnet mask written in dotted decimal? _______._____._____._____
    17.   What is the subnet mask written in hex-decimal?
    18.   What is the subnet IP number of subnet 241? _____._____._____._____
    19.   What is the broadcast IP number of subnet 241? _____._____._____._____
    20.   What are the usable host IP numbers of subnet 241?
    _____._____._____._____  through  _____._____.______.______
  • Maleeq (m)
    Re: Help On Subnetwork
    « #21 on: April 23, 2009, 11:03 AM »

    Note (Key):
    0 = OFF Bit
    1 = ON Bit

    x = Number of OFF bits
    y = Number of ON bits


    Alright, the given IP is 12.0.0.0/23
    From inspection, the following can be deduced:

    Network ID =    12.0.0.0
    Mask=               /23 = 255.255.254.0    (/23 = 11111111.11111111.11111110.00000000  Convert the bytes into decimals and you'll get 255.255.254.0)


    1. 24bits.
    Explanation:
    Class A addresses use a default mask of 255.0.0.0 . Count the number of bits in the 3bytes (x.0.0.0) we have 24bits (1byte = 8bits)



    2. We are subnetting using the /23  mask, thus writing /23 out in binary we get:
             11111111.11111111.11111110.00000000
       (Count the bits that are off) = 9bits
       Thus, we have 9bits left after subnetting.

    N.B: x = number of OFF bits = 9
           y = number of ON bits  = 23 - 8(from the default class A mask)
                                               = 15

    3. To get the number of borrowed bits, we compare with the default mask;
             /8 = 11111111.00000000.00000000.00000000
             /23= 11111111.11111111.11111110.00000000
    Now, do a bit wise comparison between the 2-rows. Count the number of bits that are not in pairs (i.e 0/0 or 1/1)
    This is equivalent to ( 23 - 8 ) = 15.    The 8 is from the default CLASS A mask
       Borrowed bits = 15bits

    4. Usable host per subnet:
    Note that in subnetting, we MUST leave atleast 2bits for host addressing. Why? You should know that the first IP is the default gateway and the last IP is the broadcast for any subnet (Ideal situation). So, the formula to get the number of useable IP is 2^x -2.
             2^x - 2
             2^9 - 2
                = 510       (How did I get the value of x as 9? Look at the solution to question 2 above)

    5. How many usable subnets are there?
    To get this, we use the formula 2^x :
          2^x
          2^9 = 512 usable subnets
          
    6. What is the subnet mask written in dotted decimal?
       To get this, take the mask /23 and write out '1' 23 times, grouping with dots in every bytes i.e
       /23 = 11111111.11111111.11111110.00000000
       Now convert each byte to from binary to decimal
       /23 = 255.255.254.0 in dotted decimal
       

    7.   What is the subnet mask written in hex-decimal?
       Similarly as #6 above, I expect u have a knowledge of hexadecimal numbers (0-9, A-F). If not, then do a research on BINARY numbers
       /23 = 11111111.11111111.11111110.00000000
          =  FF.FF.FE.00

    8. Network ID for Subnet 731:
          To get the network multiplier factor, we take the last byte in the mask (/23 = 11111111.11111111.11111110.00000000 = 255.255.254.0) that is not all OFF bits. This happens to be 254 and then subtract this value from the maximum decimal value of a byte (256) ie.
                256 - 254 = 2
          Thus, we have our networks as, starting from the base address;
    #         Network                  Range                     Broadcast
    1       12.0.2.0         12.0.2.1 - 12.0.3.254           12.0.3.255
    2       12.0.4.0         12.0.4.1 - 12.0.5.254           12.0.5.255
    3       12.0.6.0         12.0.6.1 - 12.0.7.254           12.0.7.255
    .
    .
    .
    .
    32766      12.255.252.0         12.255.252.1 - 12.255.253.254         12.255.253.255



    Extrapolating  to # 731,
       731 in binary = 10 1101 1011
       We now pick the /23 in binary form for comparison:
       /23 = 11111111.11111111.11111110.00000000
       write out, from right to left, the 731 in binary starting under the 1st (rightmost) ON bit ('1') in the /23 mask
       i.e
       11111111.11111111.11111110.00000000
       XXXXXXXX.XXXXX101.1011011X.XXXXXXXX
       
       Perform a binary to decimal conversion: (treat the x as a '0')
       XXXXX101 = 5
       0100000X = 182
       
       thus, the network ID for subnet 731 is
             12.5.182.0

    9. The broadcast address for subnet 731 is thus:
          12.5.183.255 (Follow the logic at the start of the solution to question Cool

    10. Usable address for hosts;
             12.5.183.1 - 12.5.183.254


    If you have any questions about any step, feel free to ask for further clarification. I left the solution to the second one for you to attempt in full.

    Cheers
    gabby74
    Re: Help On Subnetwork
    « #22 on: April 23, 2009, 01:20 PM »

     ok

    VLSM Addressing.doc
    * VLSM Addressing.doc (76 KB - downloaded )
    opensource (m)
    Re: Help On Subnetwork
    « #23 on: April 23, 2009, 05:28 PM »

    @ Maleeq are u a teacher ,  i really envy your patience and tolerance
    Maleeq (m)
    Re: Help On Subnetwork
    « #24 on: April 23, 2009, 06:10 PM »

    @opensource

     Grin
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    Re: Help On Subnetwork
    « #25 on: April 24, 2009, 11:16 PM »

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