God and Allah: Are they the same?

No problem if thats how you want it.





A God that died for christians' sins???
Hey, be careful, don't bring the issue of loving father here or else I will give you some verse where men, women, children, cattle, oxen were killed mercillesly






Maybe you supply us. You know that this is school and we learn everyday. so do us proud by supplying the answer.

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@babs787,


Continue to play the mischief. It is when people begin to talk in the same tone about Islam, Muhammad and his allah that you begin to cry your tit-for-tat.


Your worries have been soundly put to rest, so it's nothing new if you want to plagiarize and repost it again in this thread. On the other hand, every day and every week, we read of how Muslims are mercilessly killing people in the name of Islam. In some instances, many children are been brainwashed to be murderers for the cause of Islam. Women also are taking arms and training for warfare to promote Islam. And how many more cases of rampage, pillage, slaughter do we still read about in the news of what Muslims are planning and doing to innocent souls?
 

So, all of a sudden "the best history" is no longer existing in the Qur'an, and you have to circle round the question with that excuse? 'Best history' in the Qur'an indeed.

The attributes of Jehovah,the Lord God almighty are totally in contrast with those of Allah.
They cannot be the same person,period.

http://www.briomag.com/briomagazine/briobeyond/a0005733.html

God = Allah? This is interesting. Lingusitically, symbolically and spiritually, we've been unable to agree. We've howeever reached an accord on these three isues: to disagree, to disparage and to leave this site full of anger. God exists I believe but i disbelieve that people who kill others (xtians and muslims alike), forment hate, insult each other at the slightest mention of their God, try to shove their beliefs down the throats of non believers, cannot practice their faiths peacefuully side by side etc. are true representatives of a good and just God. Shame on all of you for insulting the very God you all claim to worship. Therefore, I denounce the God/Allah/??? you all worship and stick to my God who is just, peaceful, almighty, full of love and I resort to the natural laws: deep in our hearts i am sure we all know what is wrong and right, devoid of all your creeds, rituals that add no value and create fodder for your cannons of schism and destruction.

Praise to be God, Down with Religion!

And this is not a joke.

@pilgrim






I am used to your tongue-lashing, so no surprise at all. Are you trying to deny my post up? Babs has never been doing that but you and your folks have been crying that babs has been deriding your faith whenever issues pertaining to christianity is being mentioned. Did your God not die for your sins?







Really? Can I have where it has been laid to rest please.




Sister, arguing with you at times can be a waste of time but I will still try to be answering you when time permits. Those killing are not muslims, they may be bearing muslim names, pray like we do, fast etc but anybody that kills is not part of us and will never be part of us. It is even funny how you exonerated those that have killed in the name of chritianity while spreading the message but quick at taking active role in those that killed because they bear muslim names.

 



You may supply the answers if you care.








Nobody is zooming off. Answers have been provided in one of the threads but I will still repost them for you to read and do ask question on your nightmare.


It is a feature of literary style in Arabic that a person may refer to himself by the pronoun nahnu (we) for respect or glorification. He may also use the word ana (I), indicating one person, or the third person huwa (he). All three styles are used in the Qur’an, where Allaah addresses the Arabs in their own tongue. (Fataawa al-Lajnah al-Daa’imah, 4/143).


 “Allah, may He be glorified and exalted, sometimes refers to Himself in the singular, by name or by use of a pronoun, and sometimes by use of the plural, as in the phrase (interpretation of the meaning): ‘Verily, We have given you a manifest victory” [al-Fath 48:1], and other similar phrases. But Allaah never refers to Himself by use of the dual, because the plural refers to the respect that He deserves, and may refer to His names and attributes, whereas the dual refers to a specific number (and nothing else), and He is far above that.” (Al-‘Aqeedah al-Tadmuriyyah by Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah, p. 75).


These words, innaa (“Verily We”) and nahnu (“We”), and other forms of the plural, may be used by one person speaking on behalf of a group, or they may be used by one person for purposes of respect or glorification, as is done by some monarchs when they issue statements or decrees in which they say “We have decided…” etc. [This is known in English as “The Royal We” – Translator]. In such cases, only one person is speaking but the plural is used for respect. The One Who is more deserving of respect than any other is Allaah, may He be glorified and exalted, so when He says in the Qur’an innaa (“Verily We”) and nahnu (“We”), it is for respect and glorification, not to indicate plurality of numbers.

 Every time Allaah uses the plural to refer to Himself, it is based on the respect and honour that He deserves, and on the great number of His names and attributes, and on the great number of His troops and angels.” (Reference: Al-‘Aqeedah al-Tadmuriyyah by Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah, p. 109). And Allaah knows best







You are always welcome. It is not necessary that you must go easy with him,do it anyway you want with him.


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this is inherently false, for the God of the bible is not just a concept, HE IS and HE IS a rewarder of those who serve Him.

umary, i would have ignored this but there's too much of misrepresentation of facts in your post to ignore.

1. You say God is merely the english word for allah? Yes that is the propaganda the muslims have sold to you all for ages. If we accept that English as a language existed before the 12th century and that islam did not take root until the 12th century then it stands to reason that allah could not have been the arabic for God as he was but a mere idol before the advent of islam, at a time the expression "God" had long been in use.

2. Please study the crusades first before parroting the old lies that it is an example of christian violence. The crusades where the christian response to muslim agression and conquer of christian lands! But for the crusades, spain would be no diferent from Pakistan today.