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toshmann (m)
Re: 'All Nigerians Are Corrupt', Says Oprah Winfrey
« #512 on: August 02, 2007, 09:37 PM »

Quote from: shango on August 02, 2007, 05:37 AM
At least Oprah did not do any fraud to make here millions. Noone can say the same for any Nigerian multimillionaire.

uncontrolled capitalism is the biggest fraud in the history of mankind. any system that can produce a millionaire as rich as oprah in a country where people of the same citizenship are living in squalor (as we saw in new orleans) is a fraud.
babyosisi (f)
Re: 'All Nigerians Are Corrupt', Says Oprah Winfrey
« #513 on: August 03, 2007, 12:02 AM »

Quote from: toshmann on August 02, 2007, 09:37 PM
uncontrolled capitalism is the biggest fraud in the history of mankind. any system that can produce a millionaire as rich as oprah in a country where people of the same citizenship are living in squalor (as we saw in new orleans) is a fraud.

no no no toshman no!
a labourer is worthy of his or her sweat.
The woman worked hard,made her millions and there ain't nothing wrong with it.
I prefer capitalism anyday to that socialised European system where the hard workers are fleeced to the bone to support the lazy,efulefu ones.
He who does not work,should not eat.
That is what the Bible says and I agree.

no one should sit around waiting for income support and welfare money  when they are able bodied.
shango (m)
Re: 'All Nigerians Are Corrupt', Says Oprah Winfrey
« #514 on: August 03, 2007, 12:20 AM »

Quote
no no no toshman no!
a labourer is worthy of his or her sweat.
The woman worked hard,made her millions and there ain't nothing wrong with it.
I prefer capitalism anyday to that socialised European system where the hard workers are fleeced to the bone to support the lazy,efulefu ones.
He who does not work,should not eat.
That is what the Bible says and I agree.

no one should sit around waiting for income support and welfare money  when they are able bodied.

shows how much you know. The USA is more socialised than Naija right now. It has socialised education, fire department, military, Healthcare (though not universal), works, transport, the list is almost endless. Naija is on the brink of unfettered capitalism. Companies set up shop, hire who they want and destroy our enviroment without regard to the regular citizens. They bribe our politicians and disregard the few laws we have because we do not enforce them. ALl African nations are like heaven for any multinational corporation to operate in. Now that you know this how is unfettered capitalism helping our citizens? Are you enjoying the fruits of your labor? Is the average American living with a myriad of socialized services less of than the average Nigerian who lives in a society where capitalism has gone wild?

Many people like to think that USA is capitalism gone wild. If capitalism went wild in Nigeria most of the population would become peasants overnight. The last time capitalism went truly wild in this country the USA there was a GREAT DEPRESSION that a socialist president called FDR had to fix by mobilizing the US government to provide numerous social services to propel the US economy forward (called the New Deal)

Capitalism run wild is part of the reason Nigeria has the most sought after export on the planet yet is a so called 3rd world Nation. Ghanians without oil are better of in Ghana than your average Nigerian in Nigeria. Aint that some sh*t
babyosisi (f)
Re: 'All Nigerians Are Corrupt', Says Oprah Winfrey
« #515 on: August 03, 2007, 12:22 AM »

I was comparing USA and Europe,did you read me say Nigeria?
I have no basis whatsoever to compare Nigeria with the USA.
None at all
gbade. x (m)
Re: 'All Nigerians Are Corrupt', Says Oprah Winfrey
« #516 on: August 03, 2007, 03:00 AM »

"omo na mental case,
start to dey craze,
na who dey form for dis place,
kolomental!
" Cheesy
Abeem (m)
Re: 'All Nigerians Are Corrupt', Says Oprah Winfrey
« #517 on: August 03, 2007, 03:57 AM »

It is very saddening that this "Ms know-all" can utter this sweeping statement.  I think we should register our displeasure to her for making this generalization through letters of protest. 
luv9ja (m)
Re: 'All Nigerians Are Corrupt', Says Oprah Winfrey
« #518 on: August 03, 2007, 04:12 AM »

hi everyone,
i have taken my time to read through the whole treads and was surprised to notice quite lot of things.
1stly,i was really pissed at Oprah when i read the issue on punch newpaper "as a comment" from a guy in 9ja and then didn't investigate it.I instantly switch from SABC3 eachtime they air Oprah (4pm) and repeat it after 10pm news here in SA since i read the stuff last week.
I became furious with Oprah,whom i use to love and adore in a way until in recent times she has being becoming bit "lousy" about somethings she does In SA.i must say,her contribution to SA is great but i get fussy over this cos she told the world last yr (when Forest Whitaker affirmed himself being of Nigerian origin),that she's of "northern Liberia" origin.I hardly could take it since then why Oprah will take money and dump in SA and sing SA's glory everytime when Liberia really needs that break and help in rebuilding their nation.
I believe Mandela has something to do with that anyway cos he sell SA anyhow and i believe Oprah has being told to do that.I would have prefer Oprah helping Liberia really,SA does not really deserve all that she gives it cos they are okay and rich here, even though they are dame corrupt,i bet you yrs back when i got here,i use to think "Nigeria has the only corrupt ppl on the Continent" as said but dame , SA is dame corrupt,talk of home affairs,POLICE and Jackie Selebi(the SA police chief),SA ministers are going to be the richest ppl in SA soon,getting drivers licence etc, i later discovered,the worst 9ja basshers are 9ja ppl themselves, SA keeps this under wraps like hell and ppl don't know.
i have never heard of this anywhere.here they call 9ja names because they are right, they call us drug peddlers and though the Israeli Mafias here and 9ja maffias controll that and mind you as said b4, Jackie Selebi is the big culprit cos they are being protected.They are 9ja guys and sorry to say, majority are "from the eastern side of my country" but well na "9ja" we all be cos Yorubas,Edos etc are well know to lie to women and use dem anyhow 2u.i am winning on y neighbour from Imo to stop his 419 stuffs here,my flatmate will always refuse to eat the guys food cos "na 419".
SO what am i saying now? Oprah didn't say that statement because i have researches at least based on the net and what has being said by ppl here.I do not in anyway like the way Oprah made sure 9jas name was well dealt with their but well i know where its coming from cos , she visits here well and its a common thing to hear SA top dogs say ,Sa ppl are not the criminals(gun totting criminals,rapists etc) but Nigerians,Zimbabweans and mozambiqueans etc
Sa lives in that denial cos i was mugged last year at gun point by 2 dudes in parktown joburg (funny enough 7pm and ppl no just help us,they were passing and looking,such a terrible society),those dudes were speaking Zulu language.so aw come zim dudes ,9jas and Mozambican cos now the reputation for d biggest criminal in SA goes to a Mozambican (dat escaped from Pretoria maximum jail by rubbing hiself with petroleum jelly and squeezed through the jail rods).
we need to change the way we see our country really and the fact is that am not corrupt and majority of 9ja ppl are not, our leaders are and its greed,sometimes past ,we say Ibori and him boys grooving in Sandton here in Joburg.
i believe as we climb "slowly" into correcting the ills of 9ja,we will get out of it,at least we are dealling with some corrupt ppl now, here Government will cover it up and ppl will not talk.the police chief told the world that ,Anglotti the Israeli drug lord that was just a "coffee friend",they play and drink coffee together and so he wont resign.He wasn't killed,so pls lets just rebuild our society and surely and surprisingly my black SA friends are the worst critics here but the whites and maybe coloureds will tell u a number of 9jas dey know in joburg,capetown,Durban etc that are doing great for SA.
For all this i wish we stop bashing ourselves cos i can tell you that out leaders, IBB,Obj etc didn't drop from heaven,they came from Ota,Minna etc and so when we get there(Aso rock etc) ,we may do thesame.Obj was a great critic of abacha abi, what did  he do towards the end of his tenure?
pls pls and pls we need a change and the mobbing of Oprah is not wort it,to be very objective ,she  didn't say such(if you research), even though am no more watching her shows. i believe,she needs to take her money to where they are in "dire need of it".she now publicises her "good deeds" in Africa and i believe its becoming a "business stunt",to keep getting ppl emotionally attached to the OPRAH  brand.last summer near Mpumalanga(SA),several ppl that leaves in sharks were dying of cold and all,black dudes who won contracts were buy the "BEE cars" (BMW), BEE means black economic empowerment,while they were doing that with their money, we saw white women gather ther hard earned doe together and bought alot of blankets and building materials to  help those ppl and feed them constantly.I think we bl;acks need to do something to out "thought process".its a shame.I must tell you SA which happen to be a big name in Africa is slipping into that same thing that killed  Ghana,9ja etc after the post independence successes.you can watch Etv news every night and see the first 15 minutes of crime and i tell myself, we in 9ja are "too holy",absolute wickedness is rife here and corruption is rising fast,tribalism btw Zulus and Khozas,materialism.greed of the BEE usual suspects etc we must make sure this doesn't happen (though its happen fast now),we almost killed obj for wanting 3rd term even Mbeki condemned it then but today he's publicly declaring 3rd term aspiration.Africa needs help and fast i must say.cos now 9ja,Congo DRC etc is putting their houses in order and SA mustn't be allowed to slip back again and if you think it cant happen, check our neighbour, uncle bob (Robert Mugabe, Zimbabwe).
As for Oprah,she should pls try work on her plans and reviews and help the ones she can "without allowing her left hand to know what the right hand is doing", it will be better appreciated because, she's just a hard working celebrity, who built an empire over the years,if she doesn't know, in 10 yrs time(2017) another Oprah would have risen and may she not regret not helping and identifying with "Africa" not SA and Mandela(she's sued to dis glamour thing),she needs to do it fast, we've seen what a the SO called white trash had done, Madonna went to Malawi(why not SA),Jolie gave birth just besides us here in Namibia etc, and guys dat have gone to Dafur etc,
lastly,I will like to still praise Oprah anyway for the one she had done in SA,though she said "its a promise to Mandela",i will like to ask how much our leaders had done for us? i will like to ask our "rich African tycoons" aw much they put into the society ?may be we should ask, Dangotes,Otedolas,Dantatas,iwuanyawus,Ibrus,Otudekos etc plenty plenty of them,in 9ja nd ask the SA's BEE dudes ;Sexwales,Ramaposas,Makozomas,Motsepes.Baloyis etc in SA, at least we could see what a fellow African from common Sudan is doing in the person of Mo Ibrahim, pls lets school ourselves and stop throwing stones, Oprah no be d wahala, she Will fade one day,bad press dey give us sef as terrible and insinsere it its at times, Blackmen generally needs a mind radicalization! May God help us!!!
toshmann (m)
Re: 'All Nigerians Are Corrupt', Says Oprah Winfrey
« #519 on: August 03, 2007, 07:30 AM »

Quote from: babyosisi on August 03, 2007, 12:02 AM
no no no toshman no!
a labourer is worthy of his or her sweat.
The woman worked hard,made her millions and there ain't nothing wrong with it.
I prefer capitalism anyday to that socialised European system where the hard workers are fleeced to the bone to support the lazy,efulefu ones.
He who does not work,should not eat.
That is what the Bible says and I agree.

so only the rich are hardworking?
i know many people who work hard in the states and yet they are living in penury. see me, here is the UK i work hard everyday, yet i can barely get by. but some peeps just sit down and all the money comes to them.

 i make no excuses for those who do scam and soil nigeria's name, but i want to remind everyone that the greates scam being done today is the scam where G8 nations are controlling the global economy while claiming to aid poor nations. that remains my biggest headache today
jayvin01
Re: 'All Nigerians Are Corrupt', Says Oprah Winfrey
« #520 on: August 03, 2007, 10:55 AM »

whatever! na she get her mouth Angry   if i was there when she said that!, that's a  Shocked front page for me """"Jayvin01""" wozzed Oprah Winfrey a very big and dirty slap,  Grin Grin


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mostingo
Re: 'All Nigerians Are Corrupt', Says Oprah Winfrey
« #521 on: August 03, 2007, 11:38 AM »

it's a shame on Oprah. She should know that black Americans are the worst set of human beings.
wolfy
Badagry baraks. made by fashola
« #522 on: August 03, 2007, 01:12 PM »

why shoudl fashola  the govnor of lagos start to kidnapping people from the street and then taken them to badagry for rituals,  plz talk more about this and lets hear more about your opinin,


they are supose to carry agbero, and toughts not a jentle men or ladies, lol


WOlfy
seuniyanda
Re: 'All Nigerians Are Corrupt', Says Oprah Winfrey
« #523 on: August 03, 2007, 07:02 PM »

Oprah Winfrey should know Huh, that all those who were doped were those people Kiss Kiss looking for cheap money or want to fulfill their fantancy, so it is not nigerians' fault that there were doped.
akins4 (m)
Re: 'All Nigerians Are Corrupt', Says Oprah Winfrey
« #524 on: August 03, 2007, 07:17 PM »

OPRAH IS A REAL STUPID WOMAN. DESPITE THE FACT THAT NIGERIANS LOVE THAT WOMAN, SHE STILL SAY RUBBISH ABOUT NIGERIANS.
PLEASE WE PEOPLE OF NAIRALAND EITHER FROM USA, LONDON, MALAYSIA, HONG KONG, OR ANY WHERE IN THE WORLD. NIGERIA IS OUR FATHERLAND; PLEASE  WE SHOULDNT APPROVE ANYBODY  FROM SAYING ANY BAD COMMENT ABOUT OUR DEAR COUNTRY.
ON A NORMAL GROUND, AMERICA IS MORE WORSE THAN NIGERIA. WHY ARE WE ALLOWING ALL THIS STUPID FOREIGNERS SAY SOMETHING LIKE THIS TO US?



PLS I CANT EXPECT THIS FROM THIS WOMAN COS OF D WAY I LOVE HER. NOW SHE BETRATED THE LOVE I HAD FOR HER.
BASTARD OPRAH.


AND GOD WILL PUNISH ANYBODY THAT SAY ANY BLASTFAME AGAINST MY DEAR NIGERIA!!!!!!!!!
BABEELOVE (f)
Re: 'All Nigerians Are Corrupt', Says Oprah Winfrey
« #525 on: August 03, 2007, 09:35 PM »

It looks like Oprah got all your messages.  I am watching Oprah right now and what is she talking about?  Letters from Nigeria and con artists!!!!  More on Nigeria and Oprah!  She actually used the word "mugu"!!!!!  This is too funny!!!
babyosisi (f)
Re: 'All Nigerians Are Corrupt', Says Oprah Winfrey
« #526 on: August 03, 2007, 09:43 PM »

it's a re-run.
very funny indeed
BABEELOVE (f)
Re: 'All Nigerians Are Corrupt', Says Oprah Winfrey
« #527 on: August 03, 2007, 09:56 PM »

No where in the show did she say what Our dear "Punch" Newspaper quoted.  So where did "Punch" get its version??? It is disgraceful that most Nigerians will fall for anything!  I mean anything!  And they call others "mugus"Huh?  I can't stop laughing!  Who is the real "mugu" now???
somze (m)
Re: 'All Nigerians Are Corrupt', Says Oprah Winfrey
« #528 on: August 03, 2007, 10:05 PM »

Tell it to Denex and the rest of his unintelligent crew.

I've been tryin, a lot of peeps have but its no use.

Some new folks just see the topic and make this their first post - trashing oprah and stuff.

Its a loosing battle, let them wallow in the ignorance.

They are beyond help.

naijaway (m)
Re: 'All Nigerians Are Corrupt', Says Oprah Winfrey
« #529 on: August 04, 2007, 05:52 AM »

oprah is nobody like dat for naija to fuzz about her. She is thinking that is only advanced fee fraud that is our speciality, someone should ban her from ever stepping foot in Naija just to make a fuzz knowing that she can't do the same. And she also forgot that naijas also have money cyber wars like breaking into her account without leaving the village. She better be careful how she generalizes everything cuz the eagles can find her.
Jakumo (m)
Re: 'All Nigerians Are Corrupt', Says Oprah Winfrey
« #530 on: August 04, 2007, 06:11 AM »

Ooooh, all this hate and indignation. These primal emotions are so refreshing.   Too bad they can never amount to more than HOT AIR that will no more affect Oprah Winfrey's income than would a butterfly flapping its wings in Tibet.

How about channeling all this rage into something dramatic ?    I propose that any woman in Nigeria found to bear even a passing resemblance to Oprah Winfrey should be banished to go and live the rest of her life in America as punishment for that cruel mistake of nature.
Ochidoma
Re: 'All Nigerians Are Corrupt', Says Oprah Winfrey
« #531 on: August 04, 2007, 09:43 AM »

This article sef get k-leg. It included a quote but did not properly include the time and place of the statement.

Our journalists can use some lessons in proper quotation. They should be more careful lest they cause riot. I am skeptical until further notice.
westsidema (f)
Re: 'All Nigerians Are Corrupt', Says Oprah Winfrey
« #532 on: August 04, 2007, 09:51 AM »

lol @ akin4. u talk real shit but i guess thats what she thinks and says. any1 could be corrupt. im could be corrupt too, lol
toshmann (m)
Re: 'All Nigerians Are Corrupt', Says Oprah Winfrey
« #533 on: August 04, 2007, 10:30 AM »

@westsidema
referring to your location, you should have just told us you are on planet earth? Grin
Configur (m)
Re: 'All Nigerians Are Corrupt', Says Oprah Winfrey
« #534 on: August 04, 2007, 11:32 AM »

e fit be say oprah drink sepe before she talk wetin she talk Grin.but anyway,i tink its all bullshit.in philosophy its called a fallacy of generalization.she should be well grounded in facts before makin any mother fu****g statements.we demand an apology for such an unbriddled statement.but all ma naija dudes,notin do us.
denex
Re: 'All Nigerians Are Corrupt', Says Oprah Winfrey
« #535 on: August 04, 2007, 01:04 PM »

It is your father and your mother that belong to an unintelligent crew. Bloody nincompoop!

So you and your "I've been try" english shows more intelligence?


Did I not make it clear in here that even if Oprah Winfrey did not say all Nigerians, she still insulted us all and is trying to malign Nigeria by making comments like the one where she said she was not talking about all Nigerians is still horrific. 

Quote:

I said imagine Richard Quest on CNN doing a report that women have a lower IQ than men. He even goes on to say some women are just absolute chicken-heads.

Then he ends the CNN Special Report saying:

"I know we're going to get a letter from a woman saying that not all women are daft. But don't bother sending that letter, we already know that."

"We're just talking about this particular level of idiocy that is going on." 

"We're not talking about the entire Womenfolk or everybody that is a woman".




what do you think would have happened?

Do you think women would say "O some of us can be daft at times"

Do you think that will wait till he says all women are daft?


If they heard that Richard Quest later said on a different program that "all women, no matter their level of education, are idiots" do you think they would doubt that? Knowing full well the precedence he set for himself?
sanyaokido (m)
Re: 'All Nigerians Are Corrupt', Says Oprah Winfrey
« #536 on: August 04, 2007, 01:21 PM »

later when i got carried away wit oprah's show i realised i'm being obsessed by an actress
not surprised they act all these shows for their own pockets
4get the humanitarian aspect of it
its pretence and hypocrisy
they even act tears when they are not really moved by a story
so who is corrupt?
beware of thier likes
naija na correct place
mess OPRAH AND THE DEVIL IN HER
somze (m)
Re: 'All Nigerians Are Corrupt', Says Oprah Winfrey
« #537 on: August 04, 2007, 01:26 PM »

Denex
Your drawn up logic is flawed, but if you want to go there, the question is simple?

Are Nigerians corrupt or not? The answer is yes, a great deal of them are in fact corrupt. So we as Nigerians have to engage in a war against corruption.

More examples, and this may ruffle a few feathers . . .

Are Muslims extremists? Yes, a great deal of them are. They must therefore engage in a war against extremism and terrorism.

Are Christians hypocrites? Yes, a great deal of them are. We must therefore live according to what we preach.

Not all Nigerians are corrupt, Not all Muslims are extremist, Not all Christians are hypocrites. These good ones must save their reputation esp to the international media by uprooting the misled folks. Instead of attacking the media or oprah when the truth is so vividly exposed.
login (f)
Re: 'All Nigerians Are Corrupt', Says Oprah Winfrey
« #538 on: August 04, 2007, 04:59 PM »

I happen to agree that the majority of Nigerians are just out to scam and they do it ruthlessly without regard for anything, they are immoral and do so  with evil intent. Too bad for the few who are true. Sad sad sooooooooo sad.
grafikdon
Re: 'All Nigerians Are Corrupt', Says Oprah Winfrey
« #539 on: August 04, 2007, 05:12 PM »

Quote from: login on August 04, 2007, 04:59 PM
I happen to agree that the majority of Nigerians are just out to scam and they do it ruthlessly without regard for anything, they are immoral and do so  with evil intent. Too bad for the few who are true. Sad sad sooooooooo sad.

What a warped logic. Have you actually  met 'majority' of Nigerians or are you one of those superficial people who 'study' 'world history' through CNN?
9ja4eva (m)
Re: 'All Nigerians Are Corrupt', Says Oprah Winfrey
« #540 on: August 04, 2007, 05:24 PM »

Quote from: login on August 04, 2007, 04:59 PM
I happen to agree that the majority of Nigerians are just out to scam and they do it ruthlessly without regard for anything, they are immoral and do so with evil intent. Too bad for the few who are true. Sad sad sooooooooo sad.

Another careless writer.
hollirigth (m)
Re: 'All Nigerians Are Corrupt', Says Oprah Winfrey
« #541 on: August 04, 2007, 06:43 PM »

I watched Oprah's show yesterday talking to some of Nigerian internet scam victims. I waited patiently to hear her final, low and behold, Oprah made a special appeal as follows "I would not want anyone to write me that there are many wonderful people in Nigeria, I know that already and I don't need to be reminded, " Many other professionals she invited also admitted that scammers are everywhere not just Nigeria. They then warned people to avoid sending money to people they do not know or haven't met in person.
denex
Re: 'All Nigerians Are Corrupt', Says Oprah Winfrey
« #542 on: August 04, 2007, 06:57 PM »

@somze & login

so if I say your parents and some of your siblings are utterly corrupt, but not the whole of your family though, would I be right?

That is in fact the effect of the statistics you quoting. That more than half your family is what is ruining this country and are the scum of the earth.

If my above statements are as correct as they are in line with your logic, then I suggest you start waging your war in your own households.
somze (m)
Re: 'All Nigerians Are Corrupt', Says Oprah Winfrey
« #543 on: August 04, 2007, 07:09 PM »

If there exist corruption, hypocrisy or terrorism in my own household then it is my duty to wage a war on it, not go on a campaign against whoever exposed such.

The truth is simple and plain - Oprah said nothing. Her show is a warning signal and should be welcomed. With or without Oprah, if we continue this way a day will surely come when we wont be able to business with the outside world.

What do you even know about the situation of things. Do you know why we cant successfully implement E-commerce. Do you know that a host of sites would reject a card as soon as the IP shows its from Nigeria? Did these people need Oprah to tell them jack.

Wake up man! clean corruption from your household if it exist there. If we all do same, no one will make us out into a program on their shows.

Peace!
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