Companies not giving IT Projects to Nigerians

Hey guys, Has someone ever thought about this? 

Why is it that big companies gives out their company projects like web development, software development etc. [to foreigners?]  Nigerians, especially, do that alot.  Why do they give it out to people out there to accomplish this task for them?  Why not Nigerians? 

Does this means we don't have experts among Nigerians.

Actually, some big companies give out their projects to Nigerian web design firms who know how to market themselves well.  MTN Nigeria's website (MTNOnline.com) is maintained by a company called Tavia Technologies.

Our professional web developers simply need to learn how to market themselves better and produce results more consistently.  I am quite certain that we'll get there some day.  Outsourcing is a global trend, and we're not the only country where people in "IT" are complaining that their jobs are being taken abroad!

i agree with Seun.. if nigerians can really market thier self very well. Well for those site IAH mentioned they where developed by DNET SYSTEMS. They use the advantage of designing for one Company for other companies.. E.G DNET SYSTEMS design website for all Newspapers media.. let say 100% dnet did 95% of it.. but check those site out we have broken lines and all that.. Well they know better.

That  was why Kazey said Check Nigerian Product and compare that of Abroad.. See the thing is these  Over there they all got thier hands on nice product to get them self updated in new tools.. but nigerians howm many tools do we have..  Check www.christembassyonline.org  that was perfectly done by whity..And let me put this clear u see why i lyke whity cos..they work in hand together with team. u can imagine a Nigerians.. Learning Flash, Macromedia Studio, and all the Web Design tools in this world u can think of and that same nigerian will get him self involve in software development and going far to an extent of  Geting himself Networking Skills.. i'm not suprise though i belong to this category.

But Whity since they are team up, let say they are five in numbers. one out of them might be very good in flash only, the second might be good in PHP/MYSQL only so on so on lyke that.. and when they are done with the job, that will be thy "BOMB"

So thats is just it. but guys 4get we got talent  in Information technologies, if not 4 those Scammers given us bad names...

Thanks guys

Am more interested in Spatial Technology or GIS (Geographic Information System).. this is the application of IT in the Mapping industry. MTN spent almost $1million on the acquistion of mapping data to be used in their RF planning and Transmission Planning, well that is no news anymore, but the fact is..the mapping was produced by a foreign company (South Africa). Vmobile is towing the same line. Glo is practically giving all its mapping contracts (worth over =N=50million) to Alcatel..when will these companies ever have faith in Nigerian Specialists?? when??

......... "This has been the problem Nigerian IT professionals are passing through.

They have not given them the chance to apply the knowledge in them"..........

You guyz are well done.

Interesting topic.

I cannot agree more with Seun. The fact is that a lot of companies have given web projects to Nigerians but unfortunately majority of these jobs were messed up by the Nigerians as a result of unreliable web hosting, prolonged delay on the actual job time frame, poor design, very limited or no support available etc.

In some cases, people just collect the money and disappear.

Another reason is that most of these companies will give these jobs to friends or relatives rather than focus on the ability of the handler to perform.

I have heard over and over again business owners that will tell me that my prices are high, that they saw cheaper prices on Guardian adverts or quotations from web hosting companies. I simply tell them to make use of the cheaper ones he saw if cost is their only concern.

mmm intresting as in really intresting, ill surly check it out 

  white lady is marketing .. i bet my ass that site is a Flash Template men.. don't say nigerian can do same but when you see a nigerian website men.. you will everly know.. No doubt we have great Web-designers in nigeria and the people here in this forum are not left out.. but lets face the fact.. i don see Flash Template tier so, And let me tell you i have customized a Flash template to the core, no today, not yesterday.  probably it might not be template but i doubt it.. you know When you dey chop beans and person close your eyes, and them say make you open your mouth dem con put beans for your mouth... no bi go tell you say that  stuff wey u dey eat nah beans... but he try sha if no bi template.

@ whity lady.. are u there when his busy designing ??

@ Smartsoft
Sometimes i am there when he designs cos i want to learn one or two things from him.

The answer is simple. Exposure and ability. And cost. Nigeria has no scarcity of good minds, but we sure do have a massive scarcity of experienced minds. One of the first questions I was asked as a programmer in this country was how many lines of code I used on average. The answer? Quite a number. But the fact was that my code was buggy and patchy, with the patches being patched. There seems to be a distinct lack of professionalism in Nigeria. I used to work in an ISP in Naija, and the uptime was waaay below 85% (I know, I wrote a code to measure it).

I think we are simply used to mediocre solutions.

Isn't is funny how we say Nigerians are inexperienced, yet we won't offer them projects that let them acquire the experience.  It's a catch 22.

I'm a full-fledged web pro, and work alone.  For those who want to be taken seriously in the world of web app development, here are tools you must learn:

Linux
Apache
MySQL
PHP
HTML, Javascript, CSS, DHTML, XML, AJAX
SEO (very important)
DNS
Adobe Photoshop
A+ Certification

There are other routes such as Flash, ASP, ColdFusion, Java, etc.  But most people these days stick with the open source community, and the migration is only going to increase.

One more thing, you're wasting your time if you think using wysiwyg  programs is the way to go.  Learn HTML, period.  I use nothing but notepad.

When I first started, I worked day and night without pay, to create a complete website (http://www.oasisoflove.com).  Nobody would offer me a job until I had a major project to showcase my experience.  Once I had my site done, I started job hunting.  My current employer hired me because according to him, all the other applicants had nothing tangible to show him that they've done.  Today I have dozens of major websites under my belt.

I hope this advice helps.

Interesting!

But its not all bad except u want it to sound bad. My firm designed 12 websites last yr. 10 are foreign websites.

talking about marketing ,  well am good in my programming but maybe bad in my marketing so can any of u start up a thread on how to market urself giving concrete instances adn maybe from your personal experience,  so we novice cld learn am still in school u know and would like to prepare for the chalange,  thanks

I don't agree that Nigerians don't do a good web development job. I think the problem is Infrastructure, I know of many good nigerian developers. For exaample I provide the hosting service for http://www.futminna.org and I'm really proud of what these Naija guys are doing. They've developed a full portal for the school.We just need to encourage our guys. Most Nigeiran exp programmers didn't know anything about cpts when they left the shores of our great country.

I strongly support lifting of codes, is the best way to learn, just rememeber to give honor to whom honor is due. It makes no sense to reinvent the wheel