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BABEELOVE (f)
Re: If You Adopt Foreign Citizenship You Are No Longer Nigerian!
« #32 on: August 16, 2007, 12:03 AM »

hmmmmmmmmmmm! Sad
Iyke-D (m)
Re: If You Adopt Foreign Citizenship You Are No Longer Nigerian!
« #33 on: August 16, 2007, 12:04 AM »

If they chose they can reverse the dual citizenship laws of Nigeria, it won't change the
fact that the place is a shit hole!

Its my country of origin still, I love it, and there is nothing any of you clowns will say or
do to change that fact. Whether I use the blue or green passports, I will still find a way
to get into the country - it makes no difference really.

And to those who have fallen in love with the word "Nigger" courtesy of music and videos,
and now think only African Americans are referred to as Niggers, wake up jackasses. Let
me break the sad news to you - ALL BLACK PEOPLE are considered NIGGERS!!!
lovemajek (f)
Re: If You Adopt Foreign Citizenship You Are No Longer Nigerian!
« #34 on: August 16, 2007, 12:05 AM »

wait till 2012.
doyin13 (m)
Re: If You Adopt Foreign Citizenship You Are No Longer Nigerian!
« #35 on: August 16, 2007, 12:10 AM »

Quote from: Iyke-D on August 16, 2007, 12:04 AM
- ALL BLACK PEOPLE are considered NIGGERS!!!

and niggerettes  Grin

no forget babeelove and co.
Paw-Paw (m)
Re: If You Adopt Foreign Citizenship You Are No Longer Nigerian!
« #36 on: August 16, 2007, 12:12 AM »

Quote from: doyin13 on August 15, 2007, 11:58 PM
Ol bob

ell 77 you get time o

You sound like u actually care

unbelievable

We know you don't care, as a matter of fact why don't you try joining a UK forum. You should be used to the word nigga now. Go and join them abeg and carry go when they call you nigga.
BABEELOVE (f)
Re: If You Adopt Foreign Citizenship You Are No Longer Nigerian!
« #37 on: August 16, 2007, 12:13 AM »

Quote from: doyin13 on August 16, 2007, 12:10 AM
and niggerettes Grin

no forget babeelove and co.

I will deal with you later Wink Your own na special case!
doyin13 (m)
Re: If You Adopt Foreign Citizenship You Are No Longer Nigerian!
« #38 on: August 16, 2007, 12:13 AM »

Quote from: Paw-Paw on August 16, 2007, 12:12 AM
We know you don't care, as a matter of fact why don't you try joining a UK forum. You should be used to the word nigga now. Go and join them abeg and carry go when they call you nigga.

Nigger PLEASE

 Grin Grin Grin
ell77 (f)
Re: If You Adopt Foreign Citizenship You Are No Longer Nigerian!
« #39 on: August 16, 2007, 12:14 AM »

@doyin and lovemajek - I know, it just upsets me, people tar every diasporan with the same brush and I want to know what would possess them. I hope its not jealousy? All I know is that the people who speak the worst about Nigeria in my presence are those who live there. I suppose if you secretly want to leave your country, but can't, it is painful for others who have managed to do so to turn around and tell you how rubbish the place u currently stay is. So I understand the bitterness, but before someone goes and posts something like that I thought they should think about the impact they have on diasporans who actually are just as, if not more patriotic than them. They may single handedly be responsible for the lack of progress Nigeria may make if the diasporans feel they can't return or invest without returning. I jsut don't know, it saddens me, it shouldn't but it does. It's like going home and your brother saying 'get out of our fathers house, your sister insulted the new carpet and u don't live here either so you are no longer part of this family'. Is that not painful?
BABEELOVE (f)
Re: If You Adopt Foreign Citizenship You Are No Longer Nigerian!
« #40 on: August 16, 2007, 12:15 AM »

Amazing!
doyin13 (m)
Re: If You Adopt Foreign Citizenship You Are No Longer Nigerian!
« #41 on: August 16, 2007, 12:17 AM »

Quote from: ell77 on August 16, 2007, 12:14 AM
@doyin and lovemajek - I know, it just upsets me, people tar every diasporan with the same brush and I want to know what would possess them. I hope its not jealousy? All I know is that the people who speak the worst about Nigeria in my presence are those who live there. I suppose if you secretly want to leave your country, but can't, it is painful for others who have managed to do so to turn around and tell you how rubbish the place u currently stay is. So I understand the bitterness, but before someone goes and posts something like that I thought they should think about the impact they have on diasporans who actually are just as, if not more patriotic than them. They may single handedly be responsible for the lack of progress Nigeria may make if the diasporans feel they can't return or invest without returning. I jsut don't know, it saddens me, it shouldn't but it does. It's like going home and your brother saying 'get out of our fathers house, your sister insulted the new carpet and u don't live here either so you are no longer part of this family'. Is that not painful?

So eloquently put
PTH (m)
Re: If You Adopt Foreign Citizenship You Are No Longer Nigerian!
« #42 on: August 16, 2007, 12:20 AM »

Quote from: ell77 on August 16, 2007, 12:14 AM
I hope its not jealousy? All I know is that the people who speak the worst about Nigeria in my presence are those who live there. I suppose if you secretly want to leave your country, but can't, it is painful for others who have managed to do so to turn around and tell you how rubbish the place u currently stay is. So I understand the bitterness,

you hit the nail on the head. It is not a mere coincidence that the most vocal members of the "i love Nigeria" brigade live in Nigeria or Cambodia.
BABEELOVE (f)
Re: If You Adopt Foreign Citizenship You Are No Longer Nigerian!
« #43 on: August 16, 2007, 12:23 AM »

Gosh---------Una get power oh!!!! Cry  See wastage of energy and human resources!
aloib (f)
Re: If You Adopt Foreign Citizenship You Are No Longer Nigerian!
« #44 on: August 16, 2007, 12:24 AM »

ell i would love u forever
simply_me (f)
Re: If You Adopt Foreign Citizenship You Are No Longer Nigerian!
« #45 on: August 16, 2007, 12:24 AM »

@Aloib

u r a goat.
lovemajek (f)
Re: If You Adopt Foreign Citizenship You Are No Longer Nigerian!
« #46 on: August 16, 2007, 12:27 AM »

Quote from: ell77 on August 16, 2007, 12:14 AM
@doyin and lovemajek - I know, it just upsets me, people tar every diasporan with the same brush and I want to know what would possess them. I hope its not jealousy? All I know is that the people who speak the worst about Nigeria in my presence are those who live there. I suppose if you secretly want to leave your country, but can't, it is painful for others who have managed to do so to turn around and tell you how rubbish the place u currently stay is. So I understand the bitterness, but before someone goes and posts something like that I thought they should think about the impact they have on diasporans who actually are just as, if not more patriotic than them. They may single handedly be responsible for the lack of progress Nigeria may make if the diasporans feel they can't return or invest without returning. I jsut don't know, it saddens me, it shouldn't but it does. It's like going home and your brother saying 'get out of our fathers house, your sister insulted the new carpet and u don't live here either so you are no longer part of this family'. Is that not painful?


No jealousy, but saying the truth about what you don't know you're missing stay out of your motherland.
aloib (f)
Re: If You Adopt Foreign Citizenship You Are No Longer Nigerian!
« #47 on: August 16, 2007, 12:29 AM »

Quote from: simply_me on August 16, 2007, 12:24 AM
@Aloib

you're a goat.
it takes one to knw one,
I-man (m)
Re: If You Adopt Foreign Citizenship You Are No Longer Nigerian!
« #48 on: August 16, 2007, 12:30 AM »

Quote from: aloib on August 16, 2007, 12:29 AM
it takes one to knw one,

Don't mind Ferlie  Grin
ell77 (f)
Re: If You Adopt Foreign Citizenship You Are No Longer Nigerian!
« #49 on: August 16, 2007, 12:31 AM »

@aloib - ah thank you! atleast one Nigerian loves me as much as I love them. lol. You put a smile on my face sister. I am not sure why simply_me is calling you a goat though, hope he/she can explain him/herself.

@PTH, BABEELOVE and doyin - cool

@his_grace - why are you giving people like that free advertising? I don't even joke with that N word. Can I ask you a favour - please try not to use it ok?

aloib (f)
Re: If You Adopt Foreign Citizenship You Are No Longer Nigerian!
« #50 on: August 16, 2007, 12:33 AM »

iman hahaha lol ferlie
ell77 (f)
Re: If You Adopt Foreign Citizenship You Are No Longer Nigerian!
« #51 on: August 16, 2007, 12:34 AM »

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No jealousy, but saying the truth about what you don't know you're missing stay out of your motherland.

@lovemajek - sorry my brain has passed its functioning hours, I can't decipher what you were saying. I think my own posts are starting to lose punctuation and grammar on top of that. I'm going to sleep now, but were you telling me to stay out of Nigeria?
k0be
Re: If You Adopt Foreign Citizenship You Are No Longer Nigerian!
« #52 on: August 16, 2007, 12:45 AM »

Shango

Does a mouse cease from being a mouse any longer since it chose to vacate its hole in search of food on a chop-enriched planation?
Roscodaddy (m)
Re: If You Adopt Foreign Citizenship You Are No Longer Nigerian!
« #53 on: August 16, 2007, 12:47 AM »

Compiling names of all those insulting Nigeria and will soon send to Yardua Grin
BABEELOVE (f)
Re: If You Adopt Foreign Citizenship You Are No Longer Nigerian!
« #54 on: August 16, 2007, 12:58 AM »

These third world countries need to be thought a lesson!  Very rude.  Infact let us send the terrific 2 to give them the Saddam treatment!  Terrorists!  Paw Paw will be the next one to be fished out from a hole after hiding for several months without any toilet!  If fact --Paw Paw--you are on your way to GITMO!!!! 

You no dey fear!!!

Simply is already in Cambodia, so no need to worry--no airport for thia!

shango and his__disgrace are only fit to join charles Taylor as minor third world ranked bandits!!! Grin Or hand them to the Liberians to cut off their body bit by bit and send the videos to You-tube!  Ah-Ah!! What a cheek!!!!

shango (m)
Re: If You Adopt Foreign Citizenship You Are No Longer Nigerian!
« #55 on: August 16, 2007, 01:08 AM »

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Does a mouse cease from being a mouse any longer since it chose to vacate its hole in search of food on a chop-enriched planation?

See I do not mind questions or well thought out responses to things I post. But to think the response from people who disagree is to hurl insults, it is a testament to their limited mental faculties and inadeqacies at arguing or counterarguing. Wow, see all the sheep come out of the barn and all they can "bah" is insults. Way to show your intelligence there.

There is a different between being a Nigerian Citizen and being of Nigerian Descent. I specifically gave the example of the Italian who comes to America and by adopting American citizenship renounces his Italian citizenship. That his country may or may not have dual citizenship laws DOES NOT NEGATE THE FACT THAT HE IS NO LONGER AN ITALIAN CITIZEN. You start having children in the USA, you start restablishing your family and roots and paying taxes to another country, you work for US corporations, travel and purchase US products, HOW ARE YOU A CONTRIBUTING CITIZEN TO YOUR MOTHERLAND ANYMORE? You are still of Nigerian/Yoruba/Igbo/Hausa/whatever descent but you are no longer a citizen.

I am not talking about culture or ethnicity or norms here. Little Italy for example is probably as Italian as most Italian towns in Italy. BUT THEY ARE NO LONGER ITALIAN CITIZENS. Lookup what it means to be a citizen. It is more that having a FUCKING PASSPORT.

I could get Lebanese or Somlaian passports, does that make me a citizen?

ANd you know what is funny, me that is making this argument, I am a permanent resident in the United States. So there goes all your insults which assume that I am a Nigerian looking down on those in Diaspora. I AM AN AFRICAN IN DIASPORA. Does that fact still change the truth of what I have said? The problem with us Naijans is we can never look at ourselves or our actions critically. We just put blame on everyone else.

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Does a mouse cease from being a mouse any longer since it chose to vacate its hole in search of food on a chop-enriched planation?

maybe with what I have said you can see why your question is irrelevant to the points i have raised. A mouse doesnt have citizenship and being a Nigerian Citizen is very different from being of Nigerian Descent. One connotes a status or state THAT ANYONE CAN ACQUIRE the other denotes ethnicity and "race"/descent. There are people of European descent that have Nigerian citizenship. It makes them Nigerian citizens. They are not of NIGERIAN DESCENT.

See the difference?

My point is simply if you no longer contribute anything to your former motherland you should not criticize it. Either you put up in solving Nigerians problems or you shut up. Coming to other so called 1st world or wealthier countries will never, WILL NEVER improve your motherland, it just does not work that way. If it did Mexico would be a better place than India, and Mexicans send back more money back to Mexico while working in the USA than any Nigerian ever can, partly due to geography.

I mean can we think critically and act like we can deduce logically and argue like we are not animals without hurling insults while not addressing any of the points raised. I mean damn.
lovemajek (f)
Re: If You Adopt Foreign Citizenship You Are No Longer Nigerian!
« #56 on: August 16, 2007, 03:06 AM »

Who are the animals?.
iice (f)
Re: If You Adopt Foreign Citizenship You Are No Longer Nigerian!
« #57 on: August 16, 2007, 05:44 AM »

Quote from: I-man on August 16, 2007, 12:30 AM
Don't mind Ferlie Grin

Wasn't wondering when someone will catch that Grin

and bye bye thread. . .
deor03 (m)
Re: If You Adopt Foreign Citizenship You Are No Longer Nigerian!
« #58 on: August 16, 2007, 07:33 AM »

i agree with shango,   I don't  think it's  necessary to hang on to  NIGERAIN   citizenship  when  you do  not  see anything good coming out of the country. If  you  are  an american/british  national   just  stay with that.  We are  ok with you  being of  nigerian descent NOT  hanging to the two.

I am sure most of the DUAL , guys  are  just playing the game of if this  one  does  not  work,  this one will. No doubt Nigeria is working and it will definatetly  take us some time to get to our comfort zone. Most of us contributing to the growth one way or the other are  NOT  complaing as  those people that  pay  lip service to the NIGERIAN project.

The middle class is getting bigger by the day in NIJA and as such a couple of us are beginning travel wide for vacation, courses, training  etc   to  those  COUNTRIES that foreign NIJA's see as their  lifetime GOAL.( Most of this pro-dual  guys have life time dreams  of  getting a foreign  PALI). We see how black american/british /french are  treated  NOT to talk of you with an OGUNMODEDE/IRABOR/ODEMWINGWE  name. You have  no place  there    and  also  the gap  is widening  for you in NIGERIA.

so  i guess for the PRO-DUAL, they or their next generation will have identity  problem  as they  will belong NO  where

sorry
BABEELOVE (f)
Re: If You Adopt Foreign Citizenship You Are No Longer Nigerian!
« #59 on: August 16, 2007, 08:24 AM »

Oh God!!!  Nairaland has woken up---time to go to bed!!!!  Night shift shit packers are more fun. Angry

Zooooooooooms Off!
aisha2 (f)
Re: If You Adopt Foreign Citizenship You Are No Longer Nigerian!
« #60 on: August 16, 2007, 09:08 AM »

Na wa oh, people no get problem at all
nuzo (m)
Re: If You Adopt Foreign Citizenship You Are No Longer Nigerian!
« #61 on: August 16, 2007, 12:18 PM »

@babeelove
These third world countries need to be thought a lesson!
Leave the 3rd world countries alone since you don't care about them. because you are just not making any sense.

@Shango
Good one.

@topic
It would not be fair to relieve people with dual citizenship of their Nigerian citizenship.
What i will suggest is that those in diaspora who badmouth Nigeria as a whole, instead of the wrong policies by the leaders should better concentrate more on the affairs of their almighty US and UK.

I don't see anything wrong if a Nigerian has a UK or US citizenship, but it becomes so senseless talking down on the same NAIJA; yet when you are told not to worry about Naija and concentrate on your good adopted country, you go crazy.

I

Iyke-D (m)
Re: If You Adopt Foreign Citizenship You Are No Longer Nigerian!
« #62 on: August 16, 2007, 12:25 PM »

I didn't know those in the Diaspora (especially dual citizens) was the major problem facing Nigeria until now.
Talk about diagnosing the wrong illness. . .

ell77 (f)
Re: If You Adopt Foreign Citizenship You Are No Longer Nigerian!
« #63 on: August 16, 2007, 12:57 PM »

quote from Shango
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Its one thing to work and live in another country but once you take up citizenship there you should not even be considered a Nigerian anymore.

This was my issue. I don't know how things work in America but in Britain. British born Italians call themselves Italian, same with Ghanaians, Scottish and Nigerian (I guess its different there). I personally did not hurl insults to you. But can you explain why I can't be considered Nigerian. In fact, how many people even pay taxes in Nigeria, I am sure a lot do, but you will still class those who do not pay, yet live in Nigeria as Nigerian so why can't I? Atleast I don't take anything from the government of Nigeria. How many Nigerians by foreign DVD players, ipods, generators etc are they not Nigerian? I go to a Nigerian supermarket here to buy food who imports from overseas (funding your farmers). I buy Nigerian DVDs - funding Nollywood. If I pay taxes here, it is because I am forced to and this is to receive healthcare etc, basically I am paying for a service, if I did not have a work permit I will still pay for his service through private health insurance. I don't think living in a different country means you can't associate  with your country of origin.

I get what your saying about empty criticism with no offer of solutions - that's not right, the only way for Nigeria to progress is if people are able to raise solutions and act on them. But can you please look at what you post because you are using some of your bad experiences with I am sure are a lot less than 50 people in diaspora to make generalised comments effecting the millions that are abroad. We are not all like that and everyone's situation is different. Here in the UK it is hard for a Nigerian to get a work permit as they the business has to prove that they can't get employees from the host country. Applying for a job when u need a work permit is a deterrant to the business owners so perhaps that is why they go for passports also. On top of that there is the healthcare you can receive and your family. For instance if I get a work permit and I have a child it does not entitle my child to any assitancel. I can give birth in the street for all they care - I am not a citizen!

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