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pie1ect (m)
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What Football Team Plays The Most Exciting, Entertaining Football In The World?
@EVERYONE
Do you boys seem to realise that Patrick Vieira was 29 years Old? How much were you g.uys expecting him to be sold for?
I have to say I was quite releived when he left the Club. He seemed like he was beginning to lose his enthusiasm and I think Wenger took the best decision for everyone involved.
@Akolawole
Which one be E & E. Will that be Escape and evasion or summin' else?
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slimgene (m)
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I must say majority of the comments i have seen here are either biased or short-sighted. The most exciting and entertaining team in the last decade is Manchester United. The records speak for itself. This is the only team that has been able to achieve the treble status since the first division league became the PREMIERSHIP in 1992. The DOMINANCE has been unequalled till date. Man Utd was a team that wraps up premiership title as early as january/february and leaves other teams to pick up the scraps.
As for the Best Manager, i think Sir Alex Ferguson is the BEST. He has been able to develop local players like Beckham,Scholes,Neville Brothers and host of others into LEGENDS. He just clinched his 19th trophy in 19 years as a Man Utd manager and the hunger to achieve more is still his priority! I also consider him the BEST when it comes to getting results when all chips seems to be down. Who would forget the Old Trafford Buffet in October 2004 against ARSENAL and CHELSEA'S downfall in November 2005? All odds were against SAF but he was still able to perform his mojo.
Some people say Wenger is better in developing players than Fergie but Wenger allows selfish interests to override his judgement all the time. Majority of Arsenal fans don't even know Wenger used kanu to develop his fellow countryman(Henry) into a superstar. He would keep Kanu on the bench for 85-88 minutes before bringing him in to change matches while Henry was on the pitch playing. He was gradually building Henry and when Henry was fully-developed he dumped Kanu like a piece of trash.
Mourinho as we all knw has been working with finished products so it is difficult to judge him based on player developments. Some school of thoughts believe he is the best motivator of players but who wouldn't. Chelsea has abundance of quality players in their kitty. The amount of million pounds that warms the Chelsea bench every week will make a banker GREEN with envy. Mourinho has the right machinery working for him so he's got no choice but to be GOOD.
Sam Allardyce needs more years to contend with the above managers. He is in no category as them yet so i cannot even compare.
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Akolawole (m)
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@Akolawole
Which one be E & E. Will that be Escape and evasion or summin' else?
Entertainment and Encitement. @EVERYONE
Do you boys seem to realise that Patrick Vieira was 29 years Old? How much were you g.uys expecting him to be sold for?
I have to say I was quite releived when he left the Club. He seemed like he was beginning to lose his enthusiasm and I think Wenger took the best decision for everyone involved.
Ha! Pie1ect, Tell me any of your boys that is better than aged Viera ? It's like telling Jose to get rid of Makalele at 31, who i think is the best defensive midfielder in the world. @Everyone To all gunners, Wenger is faultless, which i don't like. |
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Akolawole (m)
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Mourinho as we all knw has been working with finished products so it is difficult to judge him based on player developments.
Go and ask Barcelona's Deco, Chelsea's Carvalio, Lyon's Tiago and South Africa's Macarthy. |
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slary (m)
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To my mind Arsenal is the most entertaining football team in the world, no doubt about that
or is any body disputing that? 
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Vieira (m)
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@Namesake(V)
Please be truthful about this for God sake.
Selling Viera for as cheap as £13m even with with only £5m down payment. Haba!
How much did you expect him to fetch? Remember that at Arsenal once you reach 30 the policy is to only offer a year's contract from then on. To be honest I had enough of the yearly Vieira Saga and for the first time that year I did not buy an Arsenal shirt with his name, I bought Bergkamp instead. |
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Akolawole (m)
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@Vichel
An average team in England will buy Viera for £20m with full fees paid.
Which "yeye" policy, no wonder Edu left unsong.
The recent vicories had blindfolded all gunners again
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bolaoni (m)
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No matter what anybody think, this thread will always be biased. We all have a club we support and to us, they will always be the best. Will I be biased? Well me think Manchester United. if we are to consider the past ten years.  Which club has been able to win so much laurels as Sir Alex and his boys during this period in time? I remember the days of Eric "The King" Cantona! The Best Gaffer?it all depends on what you are looking at. All the coaches have their strenghts and they all have their weaknesses. One thing I can't condone is putting Allardyce in the league of the other 3 coaches, That is absolute INSULT  He should be in the same league as the likes of Curbishley, Pearce and whoever. |
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babwilms (m)
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@bolaoni.Through talk. But you are talking about achievement. You can talk about achievements in terms of choosing your best manager. But you cannot talk about achievement in terms of deciding what team played the most exciting football regardless of winning.
So i think you have to diffrientiate excitingand entertaining football from winning trophies in your analysis.
You can play exciting football and not win. Such is football. Like someone referred to earlier, if you want to see the most exciting and entertaining football without winning any trophies, it was the brazillian team of the early eighties. But we are looking at clubs in the last decade and Eric Cantona at man united days does not fit into last decade.
About Sam Allerdyce shouldn't be mentioned in the same league as the other three, i think not. Where was Bolton FC three years ago compare to where they are now( they were fighting not to be relegated). Now they have become a team that plays in Europe and finish in top eight. He did it with little money at his disposal unlike others with the exception of Arsene Wenger. I'm quite sure Jose mourinho cannot do what allerdyce did that and Alex Ferguson could try given the time. Now Bolton FC is well know all over the place.
My pick is Arsenal, Barcelona, Madrid and Arsene Wenger, then Alex Ferguson, Sam Allerdyce, Mourinho
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slimgene (m)
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@ Bolaoni
This is the most outrageous comment i have read here. How can u put luckless Wenger before Fergie? Wenger is good but he aint the best.
Besides,arsenal aint the most exciting in the last 10 years because they only did dominate for a season(03/04). If u want to be frank with ur opinion,u must look at the teams that dominated for more than 2 seasons. The likes of Real Madrid,Ajax and Man Utd were the only dominant force in those years and they play exciting football more than the gunners did in a season.
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Akolawole (m)
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My pick is Arsenal, Barcelona, Madrid and Arsene Wenger, then Alex Ferguson, Sam Allerdyce, Mourinho
So Jose is the last in your list. Please go back to Porto days and compare the wages with today's Arsenal Check his other clubs as well. I'm quite sure Jose mourinho cannot do what allerdyce did that and Alex Ferguson could try given the time. He has done it before. |
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bolaoni (m)
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@ Bolaoni
This is the most outrageous comment i have read here. How can u put luckless Wenger before Fergie? Wenger is good but he aint the best.
Y me? where did I mention this?  @bolaoni. But we are looking at clubs in the last decade and Eric Cantona at man united days does not fit into last decade.
Oga, when did you start watching football?  Please don't be embarrased by this question Your above statement shows that you started may be in this new millenium  Saying Eric Cantona does not belong to this decade is something ridiculous  Which decade did he belong to then? Maradona's or Pele's? Please let us know what fact you have on him. |
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babwilms (m)
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@bolaoni. Aba, oga, i've been watching football ever since murtala muhammed was assasinated? I'm sure you know what it means. Eric Cantona finished is career in year 2007 season in may or so. Which means his contribution to the above question can be ignored beacuse he was not their for the remaining nine years till date (1996-2006) like the question was meant to be between. So i'm sure you know what i meant.
And off course he does not belong in the era of pele even my grandmother knows that, but he was their during maradona era because the boy played is first internation match in 1987 and retired in 1997
I'm sure you get my drift now. He only contributed a year into the above question which can be ignored hence i said he does not fit in to the era i mentioned. Hope we cleared on that
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slimgene (m)
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@ Babywilms
I think Wenger is luckless because he has not been able to retain all the premiership titles he has won. Ferguson has done it. Mourinho will do it in a matter of weeks.
It beats me to see Wenger hasn't been able and can never do it. Unbeaten run does not make arsenal exciting. It only shows the weakness of the English Premiership. This will never happen in Spanish la liga and happened last in serie A in the golden days of Gullit,Rijkaard and Van Basten. Sometimes u gunners allow patriotism to becloud ur senses and talk lotta crap. Wenger is a good manager but he is not exceptional.
Manchester United's dominance in the 90's was accompanied by exciting and entertainment. Beckham,Giggs,Yorke and Andy Cole were the reason why so many people joined the ever-increasing army of fans that supports the team.
The same thing can be said about Real Madrid because they consistently won titles after titles with elegance and grace. They were exciting and entertaining. How can u compare Arsenal to teams like Valencia, AC Milan in the last decade. Arsenal cannot even be in my 1st 10 of the most entertaining teams in the last decade so Babywilms should bury his head in shame and join Eyimba FC-they were able to defend their CAF title(laughs)
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babwilms (m)
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@slimgene. Nice analysis and a very good back to your given answer. Well i'm sure many Arsenal fans will disagree with you about Arsenal not been compared with teams like Valencia and co.
Any Arsenal fans out their
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c0dec (m)
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@kola
Jose is not on Capello's level. it'll take him at least 7 league titles to match up to capello. Jose is just a lucky newbie in the world of coaching.
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sage (m)
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You guys should stop watching English league. Thatz a very week league.
You guys need to watch other leagues esp spain and italy b/for you can give a full analysis, imagine comparing only 4 English managers and teams and asking the most exciting team in the world, jeez
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babwilms (m)
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@sage. We are talking about every team in Europe not in the premiership only but the managers are premiership based coaches
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Skintite (f)
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slimgene, what r u talkin about? if arsenal is not excitin, then u don't know anythin about entertainment n excitement! talkin about dominance, what cud be more dominatin than ths  top 2 for all the years as hs reign as manager, 9years a few trophies, unbeaten run  what cud be more excitin than to watch one team 4 a season n no one can beat them?? what cud b more entertainin than being 1st or second more than 5 consecutive years?? u r definately biased evryone is. if ure a fan of a club, they're 4ever the best even southampton fans wil tel u ths season is just bad 4 them but they're the best!!! I answered ths issue earlier by saying excitement n entertainment all comes down to the passes, skills, talents, uncertainty, speed, moves, goals n all that as far as these r concerned, arsenal r the most E n E! Peace,  |
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Jackal (m)
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@ skintite,
Apparently,u are myopic.
Whatz so exciting about a team that has been playing 2nd fiddle to Man Utd and Chelsea for 10 times in 14 years of the premiership.
U keep talking about the unbeaten run and even Wenger admitted it was based purely on luck as there were too many forced draws and Arsenal eventually lost out to their greatest rival,Man Utd- it shows lack of character.
Gunners get too hysterical and maybe thatz why UEFA title keeps evading the team.
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Akolawole (m)
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@akolawole. I never knew Jose mourinho coached any other teams except Porto and Chelsea, but i do know he has been assistant before. So could you please give me the name of the clubs he coached before except for the one stated above.
He has worked in a minor way in Victoria Setubal, Barca, Amadora BUT major ones in Benfica(resigned after 9 matches because of contract row), Uniao de Leiria, Porto then Chelsea. |
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Skintite (f)
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@jackal Arsenal! 2nd fiddle for 14yrs of the premiership? to Manchester United n chelsea? :- go check ur records darlyn! u aint in the EPL |
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Jackal (m)
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Arsenal has only won the title thrice in the 14 years of premiership. Man Utd has won it 8 times and chelsea is winning the 2nd time in the next few weeks.
The records are there to see. Arsenal has finished 9 times below Man Utd and twice against chelsea in those 14 years. So who plays a second fiddle here?
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babwilms (m)
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@jackal i think you need to get our facts right before saying Arsenal played second fiddle to chelsea and man utd. Here are some stacts for you to read:
Arsène Wenger
1996 - present
3 league, 4 FA Cup:
• The Premiership and FA Cup Double in 1998
• The Premiership and FA Cup Double in 2002
• The FA Cup in 2003
• The Premiership (unbeaten) in 2004
• The FA Cup in 2005 also came second in the European cup winners cup in 1999 i think against Galatasary
Plus the the quarter final elimination of Arsenal in the champions league in the past tenyears (3 times)
Chelsea: Here are some trophies chelsea won in the last decade that i have never heard about some of the cups before, why because they are not as good as the gunners.
• 1997- FA Cup Winners
• 1997- Makita/Umbro Trophy Winners
• 1998- European Super Cup Winners
• 1998- European Cup Winners Cup Winners
• 1998- League Cup Winners
• 2000- FA Cup Winners
2005- Premiership
I'm sure you are swallowing your words by reading this trophies won, You insulted all Arsenal fans by saying we played second fiddle to chelsea.
About Arsenal playing second fiddle to MAN UTD you are right to some extent but what club hasn't won any major trophies in liek three years now, did not make much impact in the champios league for three years now?
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babwilms (m)
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Don't mean no harm. It looks like some of us cannot read very well. The question states between (1996 to 2006) which means 10 years not 14 years. Also some of us are going off the topic, we are not talking about trophies won, we are talking about ENTERTAINING FOOTBALL and BEST MANAGERS among the ones listed above. with good analysis to back up your points
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bolaoni (m)
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My guy, you have not actually answered my own question.
Which decade did you say Cantona belong to? Please let me know when he retired for him not to be part of this decade?
Were you watching the Premiership in the 90s or you started supporting Arsenal by the turn of the millenium?
Please let us all know!
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Akolawole (m)
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@BolaOni
Leave the poor man alone jare, there is plenty to contribute in this forum.
@ Everyone
We have derail completely form the post. Why now?
In Domestic competitions in England, Arsenal is better but in Europe, Chelsea had won one cup. Simple.
Lets go back to the thread jare
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ocho (f)
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I'm not that much of a soccer fan but i watch some(because i have an arsenal fanatic for a cousin) and by far i'D say Arsenal are the most entertaining team. I am not taking sides with my cousin here,I've actually watched them play against other teams and they are quite imperessive,I love watching Hunry(Henry)which ever it is he goes by. By the way, is he still with aresnal?i know I might be very much behind.  I can't believe i am even posting on a sooccer thread. |
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babwilms (m)
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@bolaoni. I have given you your reply. Its on 45th post, well analysed. Infact i should be the one asking you the same question because it seems you just started watching football in the early 90s, thats what made u think the boy (cantona) was not their during maradona era. It's just like saying Ronaldo and Ronaldinho cannot be categorise as been in the same era. Home we clear on that issue now, if not u can holla back. Peace
Anyway lets all go back to the thread and lets stop divating.
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ajadudu
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@slimgene
"must say majority of the comments i have seen here are either biased or short-sighted"
Well said o, but don't u think ure very biased as well?
Let me guess, ure a Manchester United fan?
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