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tnaidaR (f)
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K0be, you still flaunting your peanut here, huh?
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k0be
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even if i no be king you be queen? i don't accept it and that's fine since that's my own opinion.
what reasons did she give other than "it's what society wants to hear." is society representative of every guy? you're making it seem as if it's okay to lie on the grounds of stigma.
the difference between myself and her is, she can understand why they would lie and I can't, because the reason is stupid, that's why westerners are more advanced than we are in that category. if you continue lying about your sexpisodes, you value your worth in your pussy, then the guy will value you on your pussy, simple.
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PTBNaija (f)
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Westerners are more advanced because they don't obsess about virginity. It's talked about openly, and we get sex education in school. In my schools we learned in at least 4 different grades. So it's no big dealcan't say the same about Nigeria.
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k0be
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exactly! and since you're looking for a progressive society you should serve as a living example. if you don't, then why complain that you live in a male-dominated society? can't wipe away stupid expectations if you don't act against them.
i do understand what you're saying about their reasons ptb.
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PTBNaija (f)
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Well k0beit's a two way street. You can't expect one group to do all the workmales and females both have to work.
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ThiefOfHearts (f)
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yes because being compare to "tear rubber" and "tokunbo" and all those nasty words in various threads is what these girls want to hear.
even you sef you joined them. don't make me yell at you o.
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k0be
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yes, I agree, the double standard is limiting. as soon as the ladies begin the work by refusing to conform, the men will follow. trust is the strength of a healthy relationship
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ThiefOfHearts (f)
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o yes, I agree, the double standard is limiting. as soon as the ladies begin the work by refusing to conform, the men will follow. trust is the strength of a healthy relationship
of course. notice how in the second comment on the first page, the dude that dumped his girl didnt say anything about how hurt that the girl lied, instead he just called her all sorts of disgusting names because she isnt one. It's not usual to say that some Nigerian guys are like that.
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k0be
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thief  you better start yelling o, your voice will give way at the end of the day. okay look, they won't stop looking for tear rubber pristine babe if you don't lower their expectations. ----------------------------------------------- Before I stop, let me say this: lying about your virginity will hurt a relationship more than the virginity itself. what kind of relationship do you expect if you start with dishonesty and lies? sure african society for the most part don't condone extra-marital affairs, but what's done is done. right or wrong is irrelevant at this point. building a lie on another lie is an excellent recipe for disaster. the truth will come out sooner or later, most likely on the night of the wedding when you don't bleed after penetration. if the truth comes out sometime down the road, his trust in you will be betrayed, and you'll be affected more by it then than you are now. our actions have their points and consequences, at some point we have to face the consequences, it's called manning-up and being responsible. otherwise the guilt, fear, shame, embarassment, panicking won't let our minds rest. living a lie and living in fear is not pleasant. Always be honest when needed. It's a risk but you'll be free of the burden for the rest of your life.
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k0be
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o of course.
notice how in the second comment on the first page, the dude that dumped his girl didnt say anything about how hurt that the girl lied, instead he just called her all sorts of disgusting names because she isnt one. It's not usual to say that some Nigerian guys are like that.
I feel like a privates for defending the guy, but his emotions made him hurl those stupid names. he didn't say it, but he was hurt that she lied, and he was more disappointed she wasn't a virgin. don't you agree the girl should have been honest with him to begin with, all that wouldn't have happened. 
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ThiefOfHearts (f)
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again nothing he said hinted that it was because she lied that he dumped her. He just said that it meant that she was a slut and that was that which means he pretty much see non virgins as being mere sluts so who would want to confess that from the beginning esp if the girl is really feeling the dude.
Again, it's a shame that some feel the need to lie but to say you don't at least see why they do is ridiculous. By understanding the reason doesnt mean you agree with it.
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ThiefOfHearts (f)
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most likely on the night of the wedding when you don't bleed after penetration I thought you were smarter than this kobe. Not every girl bleeds. Sometimes the hymen tears from bike riding, horsebacking riding, extensive activities, etc. Unfortunately alot of so called educated monkeys arent aware of this.
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k0be
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that was the only sugar-coatable example i could have used. i was actually going to say when he finds out you're loose and his privates slides in easily. now that would have been harsh.
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ThiefOfHearts (f)
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looks like someone isnt aware of the power of the hausa alum. Lmao.
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PTBNaija (f)
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I thought you were smarter than this kobe. Not every girl bleeds. Sometimes the hymen tears from bike riding, horsebacking riding, extensive activities, etc.
Unfortunately alot of so called educated monkeys arent aware of this.
Cosigned.
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k0be
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again nothing he said hinted that it was because she lied that he dumped her. He just said that it meant that she was a slut and that was that which means he pretty much see non virgins as being mere sluts so who would want to confess that from the beginning esp if the girl is really feeling the dude.
Again, it's a shame that some feel the need to lie but to say you don't at least see why they do is ridiculous. By understanding the reason doesnt mean you agree with it.
well the guy is stupid! that much I know. I see why they feel the need to lie yes, it's because they can't break the chain of living in fear in this male-dominated society. and operations for virginity reinstatement are absolutely stupid! lol, give me a break. . if you're one you're one, if you aren't you aren't.
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k0be
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hausa alum? isn't is so sad that girls would go through these extremes to appear pure to a guy? if you take an action live with the consequence, if you can't live with the consequence refrain from the action. but once the action is taken, stick by it like a responsible man woman. I would actually call girls who use alums, surgical hymens, etc Sluts. not ones who're honest.
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tnaidaR (f)
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I see why they feel the need to lie yes, it's because they can't break the chain of living in fear in this male-dominated society.
lol. . you such a kid. What kind of girls d'u meet? Change base!
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k0be
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why are you being an attention-desperate she-goat radiant? if you can't contribute to a thread go watch TV or something, if you can't read that's not my problem.
kind of girls i meet are the same girls that live in the world you and I occupy, hellooo . . . same ones who offer responses like toh's and ptb's. girls that would stop at nothing to lie to save face.
back @ topic and thief "I have said to you to speak the truth is a painful thing. To be forced to tell lies is much worse." - oscar wilde “The truth may hurt for a little while but a lie hurts forever.” For a guy like me who can't tell a lie, not even when I hear one, would you advice a woman to take advantage of that weakness and lie to me.
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PTBNaija (f)
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k0beyou are sooooooo ridiculous. TOH and I bring up valid points, you just can't handle them.
Anywaysyou should just not date then, since you seem to have some kind of vendetta against females.
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Jackal (m)
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tnaidaR,
Leave K0be alone. He is just stuck in his ways. He has agreed with PTB but he still doesnt understand why a girl should LIE even though they got excuses to. Letz not overflog this issue . . . . . . We keep going in circles. I have identified the various CATS on page 1 and how some lasses are living in self-denial. In all honesty, i don't give a toss about it . . . . .But women should be honest about it and stop LYING.
@ K0be,
By the powers conferred on me, i hereby command u to TAPE IT SHUT. Were u hurt by a fake VIRGIN or why are u having erections on this issue this much. You are taking it too serious like a Federal Government contract . . . .Take a chill pill, bro. don't worry . . . . . .No chic will take u for a ride again. U can ask for a virginity test before letting a babe move to ur crib. Cheer up, son.
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k0be
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vendetta against females, like what? telling you it's stupid to lie about being a virgin? vendetta alright. are you short on sensible comments already? i have been asking you to provide the reasons and facts that you kept shouting earlier and you curled up like a shelled snail.
jackal, never been hurt by a virgin, real or fake. virginity isn't the focus on my mind when it comes to dating. the reason i keep discussing this topic is, girls faking their agendas are as bad as guys forcing it on them.
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PTBNaija (f)
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Then why don't you make a thread about the guys forcing it on them then. Why are your topics always biased against females?
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Jackal (m)
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I concur, son. Its the society we live in which is so male-dominated. When a guy does anything, it is so NORMAL but when a girl does the same its a TABOO. The demand for Virgins has made these babes automatic liars . . . . Gals use all sorts of method to convince their fellas that they are INTACT. In Egypt, women are having their twats sewn back(just before the wedding night) with a vial of tomato juice stuck in it so when their oblivious husbands break the hymen, the juices rupture and they are made to believe their bride is a VIRGIN. It has gone to that extent and Doctors are making a fortune in em Islamic places where WOMEN could face SHARIA for promiscuity. Women would stop lying when Guys stop demandin for VIRGINS.
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k0be
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is that what's eating your heart out n you call it vendetta. how did the guy force it on them if i may ask? did he hold her in a choke hold? threaten to knife her if she says she isn't?
i bet you're not a virgin ptb, you'd lie about it to a man you like if you think that's what he wants to hear.
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debosky (m)
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well k0be I think we're all clear on your persuasions in this matter
PTB and TOH simply gave the other side of the story to make it balanced - the sometimes educated monkeys who make this virginity thing the subject of whether they hook up or not.
Its clear that you detest lying and will not accept any leg for the lying to stand on such as the men/society's expectations, but nevertheless, you cannot deny the strong effect acceptance and approval of society has on our behavior as human beings.
It is neither justified nor acceptable, but it is understandable, due to the warped thinking of both men and women, and a general hypocrisy when it comes to such as issue as this in Nigerian society/circles in general.
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k0be
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Did I not mention the threads here on Nairaland? And how they represent the thoughts of real Nigerians? So what more do you need? Do you expect me to pull up statistical figures of how many girls lie about their virginity? How many guys prefer virgins? How many guys dump girls because they are not virgins? Lets be realistic at least. the guys say they prefer virgins, they didn't ask you to lie if you aren't a virgin. continue bringing up lame excuses.
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k0be
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debosky,  thank you. that's what I have been waiting to hear. it's due to the skewed thinking of men and women. not men alone as ptb made it seem. shouting it's "because it's what men want to hear."
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tnaidaR (f)
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No real chic will lie about that. What fear do I have of a man? lol
Some men run away from virgins while some like virgins. The freaking hell u guys want? I have no clue why a girl would lie about that. I mean, it's my freaking life. I do the shit I want and I owe no being any explanation. Again, no real girl would lie about that. Only pretenders would do so and they ain't real!
Take me as I am or fcuk off! It's that simple.
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PTBNaija (f)
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is that what's eating your heart out n you call it vendetta. how did the guy force it on them if i may ask? did he hold her in a choke hold? threaten to knife her if she says she isn't?
i bet you're not a virgin ptb, you'd lie about it to a man you like if you think that's what he wants to hear.
Hahawhat does my virginity have to do with anything on this thread? Is it on trial now?  Besides, whether I am or am not, I would/have never lied about it. Anywaysback to the topicand staying on topic.
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k0be
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No real chic will lie about that. What fear do I have of a man? lol
Some men run away from virgins while some like virgins. The freaking hell u guys want? I have no clue why a girl would lie about that. I mean, it's my freaking life. I do the shit I want and I owe no being any explanation. Again, no real girl would lie about that. Only pretenders would do so and they ain't real!
Take me as I am or fcuk off! It's that simple.
aww,  you actually took the liberty of replying, I never thought I'd see this day. the ones that have been lying are fake chics that fear men? radiant, it's girls like you i'd like to meet. i like your idgf attitude.
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