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flower (f)
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excusable or inexcusable it's still a mistake  |
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wormedup (m)
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@ flower.
can you make such a mistake ?? i mean, is this kind of mistake applicable to you ?
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flower (f)
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There are horrible mistakes being made all the time. One of the former Miss Amerca's made a turn into which put her in direct eye contact with the sun. She closed her eyes for a second to put on her sunglasses and she struck a pedestrian and killed them. That was a mistake.
Also, I have made mistakes, terrible mistakes in the past, present, and most likely in the future as well. I can't pretend that I'm perfect because I'm not, no one is. Some of these things I knew were wrong but was so wrapped up in the moment I discared those feelings. Now that I'm older I can honestly look back and say, "Yes, that was a mistake or those were mistakes."
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Fluffy (f)
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okay unless it was dark and u thought u were making love to someone else  |
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Seun (m)
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Inexcusable mistakes and excusable mistakes are not the same. The case of the woman who was driving and hit a child because something entered her eyes is an excusable one. The case of someone who drinks and drives knowing the risks of drinking and driving is not an excusable mistake. If you are a woman, and you know that you can easily fall into temptation and have sex when you are drunk, then why should you get drunk in the first place? That is not excusable.
Everything we do in this world that hurts us can be termed a "mistake". Every serial criminal in prison made "mistakes". Saddam Hussein, Hitler, Osama Bin Laden, Idi AMin Dada and Sanni Abacha all made terrible "mistakes". Will you now say because of that that they should not be punished? No. Because all mistakes are not the same. Saying something is a "mistake" just because the consequences have come back to bite you is bullshit. All mistakes are not the same.
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flower (f)
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All mistakes may not be the same but they are all deemed to be mistakes, whether it comes back or no, whether it's punishable or no, whether it's excusable or no.
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2cantango (f)
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@Seun, I totally agree with you!
I think some people may give certain experiences in their lives the label of 'mistake' just to act as a salve to their conscience
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mobola (f)
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it very possible but so  |
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flower (f)
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Now I think this has gotten confusing. Are you asking to differentiate between excusable and non excusable mistakes? A mistake is a mistake is a mistake whether conscious driven, experience driven, or plain 'ole enlightenment. Can someone make a mistake? Yes. Can someone have sex and deem it a mistake? Yes. Who are we to say otherwise? Has this turned into an 'excusable non excusable thread I think so.  |
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wormedup (m)
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@ flower.
maybe u didn't get my question though it was a direct one. let me ask again.
can YOU make love to someone by mistake ??
the emphasis is on "YOU".
then again, u popped something up.
How do u consciously make a mistake ? u mean the person knew it was wrong and just went ahead to do it ? i'd say there was an intention behind it and it wasn't looking like a mistake to the person.
it's like "Stealing" by mistake, how possible is that ?
the englishmen grew wise and called it kleptomania which not really an excuse because, a kleptomaniac knows it's wrong but cannot resist doing it.
so whassup sis ?
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flower (f)
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Can I? Who knows, anything is possible. It could be the the scenairo Seun posted, finding this man in my bed thinking it to be my husband and oops, it's not. I would like to say no, never could I ever, but your original question was could a man or woman. I can speak for myself, but I cannot for others so I'm leaving the opportunity open to say that with the hundreds of millions of people on this earth, I'm sure it's been done and it may very well have been a mistake. And as bad as I felt about it at the time, I did steal something accidentally. I had my hands full and placed one item in my pocket. By the time I got to the counter I paid for everything forgetting that one item. I got home, took off my coat, emptied my pokets of keys and change and there sat the item, stolen, by acciedent.  |
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desiree (f)
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Making love by mistake is when you trip on your shoe laces and fall straight on a waiting girl who has no clothes on. Okay, that never really happens because making love/having sex is a conscious thing, you need your total engaded mind to do it. Making love and later regretting it is a totally different thing
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tmontana (m)
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My candid opinion on this matter is that it is truly possible to make love by mistake. Like Flower said earlier, one who is undergoing some emotional troubles is more vulnerable to this. However, let me be quick to add that emotional stress is a relative state for different people. Some people tend to be weak when they are down emotionally while others are stronger and a bit uptight. So yes it is very possible.
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Thagodfada (m)
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"Regardless of ones emotional state, except been drunk or raped, when it comes to sleeping with someone, there are no mistakes about it" by KIMBA
This is similar to what i said earlier and i think you are absolutely right. People go try to turn this thing upside down and inside out.
A mistake is NOT dependent on willpower! Just because you can't say no does not mean it is a mistake. It just means you don't have the power to control your emotions regardless of what emotional state you are in.
If a gun goes off accidentally, that is a mistake. But if you pull the trigger in anger that is something else but not a mistake.
We are human beings not animals.
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segedoo (m)
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let's not be ridiculuous here folks.
you make love because you want to and not by mistake!
love-making is a process guys - remember?
how can you go through' every step of a process that ends in orgasm atleast for a party and then claim it was a mistake?
abegii - self-deception is the beginning of self-destruction
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wormedup (m)
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@FLOWER. U r still not saying that u can make love to someone by mistake. i mean, if U don't know if u can, who on earth's going to know ? nobody here's admitting that they have made love or can make love by mistake so, where precisely can i find one of them ? i'm interested in knowing a female of that nature. And as bad as I felt about it at the time, I did steal something accidentally. I had my hands full and placed one item in my pocket. By the time I got to the counter I paid for everything forgetting that one item. I got home, took off my coat, emptied my pokets of keys and change and there sat the item, stolen, by acciedent. u seriously think the police will buy that if they had caught up with you ? ok, let assume it was a mistake, how come u remember picking it up and putting it in your pocket ? no offence sis, i'm just being hypothetical. i believe, saying something is possible, u have to be able to prove that it actually is possible and not just base on assumptions. My candid opinion on this matter is that it is truly possible to make love by mistake. Like Flower said earlier, one who is undergoing some emotional troubles is more vulnerable to this. However, let me be quick to add that emotional stress is a relative state for different people. Some people tend to be weak when they are down emotionally while others are stronger and a bit uptight. So yes it is very possible.
tell me this has happened to you and let see how we can move forward ok . |
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flower (f)
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wormedup, I did answer the question, read it again. About the item, things like that happen. Whether the police believe me or you believe me, it was a mistake, an accident. After pulling it from my pocket I remember that I'd put it there when holding other groceries. It's as simple as that.
i believe, saying something is possible, u have to be able to prove that it actually is possible and not just base on assumptions.
Isn't this whole thread an assumption that sex cannot mistakenly happen? |
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wormedup (m)
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Can I? Who knows, anything is possible. It could be the the scenairo Seun posted, finding this man in my bed thinking it to be my husband and oops, it's not. I would like to say no, never could I ever, but your original question was could a man or woman. I can speak for myself, but I cannot for others so I'm leaving the opportunity open to say that with the hundreds of millions of people on this earth, I'm sure it's been done and it may very well have been a mistake. that was what u said, i see no straight answer. even if we were assuming, why would u want to convince people when u can't prove what u believe ? |
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flower (f)
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Who knows, anything is possible. Words to key in on.  Also, I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything. I'm simply stating that we cannot know everyone's situation or circumstances to say whether it's a mistake or not. I'm saying: Don't rule out the possibility. |
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wormedup (m)
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@ flower. that's not an answer. all you have to say is either a "yes" or "no" and not expect me to deduce an answer from it. Be bold and straight  . and what make's it a possibility ? if u think it's a possibility then it must have happened to u or someone u know. u can't just go around believing that John is a girl because it's possible for a guy named John to be a girl. ask question and get answers. u r just not there yet sis. |
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Seun (m)
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And as bad as I felt about it at the time, I did steal something accidentally. I had my hands full and placed one item in my pocket. By the time I got to the counter I paid for everything forgetting that one item. I got home, took off my coat, emptied my pokets of keys and change and there sat the item, stolen, by acciedent. You did not steal by mistake. You took that item home by mistake. Stealing is something you do consciously. |
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flower (f)
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wormedup-
how can I possibly say yes or no to what happens in the future? That's being presumptuous.
Seun-
Stealing is to take without owners consent. I'm pretty sure I didn't have his consent so he'd consider the item stolen.
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IAH (f)
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It's very very possible. Let's say the two of you were just kissing/touching and you didn't know when the whole heat turned into sex.  |
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blablabla (m)
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people!!!!!! sex without alcohol or drugs or force can not be a mistake, the romeo abi juliet must have been hoping to chop a forbidding fruit in the darkest corners of his/her mind only for the something to show on a platter of gold, spare me please. but if there are sisters out there who do this thing by mistake, please, please and please let us brothers know where to, I did not say anything o! |
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blablabla (m)
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IAH
It's very very possible. Let's say the two of you were just kissing/touching and you didn't know when the whole heat turned into sex.
Please tell me when you are touching and kissing someone in a confined and secure place what are you really thinking about then? making a mistake?
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Seun (m)
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Stealing is to take without owners consent. I'm pretty sure I didn't have his consent so he'd consider the item stolen. It is unhealthy to muddle up the difference between taking an item thinking it is yours and taking it knowing it belongs to someone else and then saying "I'm so sorry, it was a mistake" when caught. It's important that you understand this. You cannot steal something (or murder someone) unintentionally. What your intention is when taking an action is a primary determinant of guilt. That's why even the law recognizes the difference between murder and manslaughter. Stealing is to murder what 'taking by mistake' is to manslaughter. Why are you appearing not to recognize the difference?  |
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wormedup (m)
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how can I possibly say yes or no to what happens in the future? That's being presumptuous.
but back then when u where a kid in primary school u said u'd love to go to the universty and u probably did. u get home and say "Tommorow morning i'll go to a provision store and get some beverages" and u do just that. is that not the future we're talking about ? why can't u just say "i'll make love to someone by mistake in 3 days" and do it ? |
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Seun (m)
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When a teenage girl sees her first period, she tells herself "I'm going to get disvirgined by mistake very soon. yay!"
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2cantango (f)
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@Seun: you're a funny man |
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kasaliyaro (m)
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Diminished Capacity
A contention of diminished capacity means that although the accused was not insane, but due to emotional distress, physical condition or other factors he/she could not fully comprehend the nature of the criminal act he/she is accused of committing -thus removing the element of premeditation i.e. the act was not intentional.
Temporary Insanity -in a criminal prosecution
A defense by the accused that he/she was briefly insane at the time the crime was committed and therefore was incapable of knowing the nature of his/her alleged criminal act. Temporary insanity is claimed as a defense whether or not the accused is mentally stable at the time of trial. One difficulty with a temporary insanity defense is the problem of proof, since any examination by psychiatrists had to be after the fact, so the only evidence must be the conduct of the accused immediately before or after the crime. It is similar to the defenses of "diminished capacity" to understand one's own actions, the so-called "Twinkie defense," the "abuse excuse," "heat of passion" and other claims of mental disturbance which raise the issue of criminal intent based on modern psychiatry and/or sociology. However, mental derangement at the time of an abrupt crime, such as a sudden attack or crime of passion, can be a valid defense or at least show lack of premeditation.
Mistake
A mistake is an unintentional error or fault resulting from defective judgment, deficient knowledge, or carelessness.
What we are examining is the fact that "Can one make love by mistake or not?" This is a totally different issue from "is the act under any circumstance excusable or not?"
Ques: Can it happen by mistake?
Ans: Yes.
Ques: Is it excusable?
Ans: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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cheekee (f)
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it is very possible!!one can make love just by getting carried away and like rhodalyn said s/he gets carried all the way it's possible we all make mistakes once in a while |
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