@ poster,
having a 15-yr plan does not mean you plan on staying for 15 years. It simply means some plans take that long to implement.

My brother this is the dumbest thread I have seen on Nairaland, how 15year plan translates into 15year tenure only Babasin would know!!!!!!

@McKren

how 15year plan translates into 15year tenure only Babasin would know!!!!!!

simple, yaradua needs 15years to fix niger delta!

new govt coming would not continue with yaradua's policy. They need their own identity.

so it is better, naija allow him 15yrs and niger delta will be forever fixed.

remember: 3rd term started because OBJ wanted 3rd term to complete his reform, which yaradua has already started reversing!

You are such a funny guy
not sure how to react to this anymore. your argument in itself makes sense but looking at the ideal world and the wider picture, it is not wrong for a Government to have a 15year roadmap to development if it can only stay 8years as Government is continues.

But the question is, is Nigeria part of this ideal world?

May be you have a point, but obviously not the message potrayed by the headline.

@ Tundewoods i realy support ur responses, good talk

@ cynthia75 pls be more objective and give more matured responses. cant imagine u saying u support militants for any reason.
is it easy to rule a country like this the corruption is so deep and the people are rotten. it will surprise u that the true problem of the nigerdelta is thier people in government and the so called militants who fend for them selves in wicked manners and you think they are fighting on ur behalf.
with the knowledge i have if the money released to the greedy governors, local govt chairmen, chiefs and village heads actually get to the grassroot am sure the mouths blabbing would have been sealed
do u know that militants connive to kidnap just to make money for their personal pockets and not for the community? they are the same robbers on the highway, they are also the oil pipeline vandals.
time tells if a wound will heal so give the guy time to prove himself . at least OBJ wanted to spend another 3rd trem but was thrown out so when its time and the guy does not perform, he will equally be thrown out.

seun pls start screening poster's topic. this one is too ambiguous.

When i read in the Newspaper few days after Yar'adua was sworn-in that his nick name was "Baba go slow" i thought that was a little too harse but i now i think i may be wrong. Ever since Presidet Yar'adua came into government it is as if the Nigeria state has been pause with a remote control. Noting seems to be happening.

Or am i expecting to much,

What has a 15 year plan got to do with tenure?

People keep saying President Yar'Adua is reversing OBJ's policies. What I really can't understand is whether a president should pursue faulty policies all in the name of continuity.

Do we see the President reversing the privatization and deregulation of the telecommunications industry?

Do we see the President de-Consolidating the banks?

Do we see the President de-Commissioning all the Independent Power Projects?

Do we see the President breaking ties to our main allies, Russia and China?

Or has the President unbanned the importation of Poultry Products.

The reforms that are viable and beneficial will continue. Those that are not will be thrown out the window. Even when President Yar'Adua leaves, the incoming Government will imbibe what he did right and cast away all he did wrong. That's how it works.

Do you expect Clinton to become president of the USA and then declare a war on Iran and Turkey just to show a sense of continuity on George Bush's reforms? Of course she would scrutinize immigrants and maintain high security consciousness in the USA but she won't continue the reforms of declaring wars.

By the way, let's stop giving Presidents the automatic benefit of 2 tenures. Knowing they have only four years to prove themselves makes them work harder to perform wonders. Only those exceptionally gifted should be able to have 2 tenures and we have never had any exceptionally gifted President.



@joycexz

you're right! Those people on KAAKAKI can use their mouth to develope an entire galaxy!



@cynthia75

we really need to start exporting only refined petroleum products rather than crude oil.

The process however starts with removing subsidy from the pricing of petroleum products within Nigeria, then privatizing the existing refineries, then sign trade agreements and open the borders to our neighbours and remove restrictions from export of petroleum products to our neighbours.

But I think we should stay in OPEC but open our eyes and know what we're doing there. We will soon become the most powerful country in OPEC so we need such a body we can use to pursue our own interests.

What we should withdraw from is the the Association of Countries accepting to be British Commonwealth.

How can Nigeria become a great nation when it claims to be the Ordinary Property of Britain which itself is subservient to the USA? E go hard us if we no leave that functionless cartel.

Or can anybody please tell me the aims and objectives of the countries which make up the Ordinary Property of Britain? What do they do? What do they plan to achieve? Total and absolute allegiance to the crown? And then what?

Anyways, I beg to differ with you on the issue of paying out money to the unemployed. When people are employed, they are supposed to put aside a fraction of their salaries in case they lose their jobs so they can get unemployment benefits. In Nigeria, workers don't pay that amount as part of their taxes. Instead they pay dues to their unions. So the unions should start realising that their main function is not to strike but to cater for the welfare of their members.

As for the old people who are now wisely remitting for their pension, they will reap the benefits when the time comes.

As for militants, there must be no dialogue with them. They have been rampaging, kidnapping and murdering for centuries now. Go and check your history, as at the year 1888, Nana Olomu of Itsekiri was fighting Ijaw Pirates on the shores and also stopping their raids on the European factories. This was far before Crude oil was discovered, this was when the Europeans were trading legitimately in Oil Palm.

So the Ijaw Militancy thing has nothing to do with resource control or degradation of the environment. There is just a section of the Ijaw warrior community that for more than 300 years, have occupationally been Sea Pirates and Foreign Factory raiders. They do not realise that the world has changed. The only sign of civilization they associate themselves with is Modern Weaponry.

This section of the Ijaw community and these ancient cultures were dying out till recently. They require democracy and peaceful governance to be able to engage effectively in their catastrophe. It is time to end this rubbish.

Majority of Ijaw people have embraced peace for a long time now, but these terrorists will continue to terrorise them and destroy their source of income so that they too will have no choice than join in.

I even hear that some boys from other regions of the country have become initiated into this business through campus confraternities.

We must stamp this terrorist culture out now and we must use sweeping brutal force. NO DIALOGUE!

Again, the first vampire that should be removed from the President's fold is Ebele Badluck Jonathan. That canker worm that wants to eat into President Yar'Adua's good works must be discharged and replaced with Donald Duke.



@WARFY BOY

No matter how many times you change your ID, your way of thinking will never change.

The som1 that is that is pocketing a huge sum of [N $] from the export and "import" of Crude Oil (I will like to say here that only a mad man will import crude oil to Nigeria), do you not believe that he will make more by exporting refined petroleum products?

Think well before you post. Abi the woman wey dey harvest and sell tuber of yam and the woman wey dey harvest, cook and sell porridge, who gain am pass?



@tukur2002n

whether you like it or you still like it, Nigeria is moving ahead and we're going to get there together. I am not going to pursue personal or nepotistic benefits at the peril of National Interest. God Forbid! And may that kind of mentality erase from your brain too.



@deor03

All those Niger Delta MILITANTS should be eliminated! Those of us in the outside of the Niger Delta should be trained in rendering Extension Services and sent down to the Niger Delta to liberate the minds of those of our people over there that are peace-loving. And as we are re-educating them, the Federal Government should be delivering INSTANTLY on any promise they send us to make to the people.

However, all militants, High Sea Pirates and Kidnappers must die. Dialogue or peace-talks with them will only give them time to induce new members, then re-group and re-arm.



@babasin

Who told you that the main agenda of Yar'Adua's presidency is the Niger Delta? If that was the case, Yar'Adua will simply sign secession papers and let the Niger Delta go.

Just to add again that Yar'Adua is not reversing OBJ's reforms.

Afterall, OBJ pursued a policy of fixing NEPA before he realised only the IPPs would work. OBJ tried fixing the refineries for many years before he decided to sell.
Would you then say that OBJ too was in fact reversing his own reforms?




Abeg this topic does not have any purpose or even specific direction. Abi una wan turn this one to another North/South, Hausa/Ibo, Christian/Muslim argument again?

ONLY RECENTLY


Lest We Forget,
we are just beginning to crawl out of the pit of dictatorship and feudalism

Lest we forget,
we're just about to start expressing and use our freedoms

It really annoys me sometimes how the minds of Nigerians are easily wiped

Memories of sufferings citizens endured, both military and civilian all evaporated

Sometimes I wonder if it's these same people that were bound and whipped

I really can't believe Nigerians only wanted this freedom for breeding chaos and grief

Complaining at every turn like the Hebrews in the Sinai desert

Preferring the past to the future, renouncing their liberty in the stead of captivity

Choosing this new laxity as an opportunity; digging up ancient and forgotten rivalries

A chance for tribalism, let's beat the drums for divisions between Islam and Christianity

And then the calls for militancy, territorial secessions and kidnappings

Just hope we remember where we were only recently, how far we have to go

We were but slaves, yet now have leashed ourselves by abusing our own freedom

The liberties we cried for, we now condemn, the life that we longed for, we now regret

I'm just taking time to flash those pictures back lest we forget.

even if want to stay for the next 30 yrs no problem

na dem sabi.
Whatever they want to do with this country, they had better be careful coz Nigeria is not a country anybody can mess with.

@denex

Thank you soooo much, na mi, i no change, na only my id change, [sorry for dis] bt i kno no how old u b sha ohh, i kno wan even kno, because my mind tel me say u b smal pikin, DID U WATCH SONI IRABOR LIVE today on AIT, were[b] The Co-ordinator Of The Ijaw Monitoring Group[/b] Comrade Josehp Eva was a guest, com let me tell u 1 tin, n try make research on wetin i wan tlk now, [1] dos REFERIES for Naija no jst spoil on there own ohh, na pipo detroy dem, build there own 4 oversea, so dt d exported crude oil wil b refined in there own refineries abroad, dey always make sure dey move against d motion of repairing d refineries wen raised, Imagine, 4 d sake of Dangote n Otedole, Obasanjo wnted increase the price of fuel 2 N75 4 dem to recover there moni on time, i min dts madness , aprt 4rm dt it will b educative 4 u 2 kno dt it wil nt take SHELL, ChEVRON, AGIP etc ntin to Build [mind u nt repair] refineries in 8 months, they can do it, it wnt cost dem anytin, nt to tlk of repair dt wil only take few months.

OK tel mi y havnt dey repaired d refineries ever since, wat's holdin dem bak, luk i m nt a ful like u may tink i kno wt i m saying, shey u hear hw much mama spika wan use take renovate im house, dt moni go repair our refineris remain u hear, if she no dey dt post she go bold komot dt kin moni 4rm her pocket take go renovate her persona house

Big up broday, if i start to dey tel u som fact u no go fit rid, jst read d link below first, u go learn small on wats goin in N/D

http://www.saharareporters.com/www/interview/detail/?id=46

If moni no dey we go say no moni, moni ful ground remain, n our pipo dey suffer, wait make i ask u first, How u go feel if ur own mama take d bag of fud wey dey una house go put 4 ur neighbor house, make she tell u say make u go dey take from there, n wen u dey hungry ur neighbor go let u kno say d fud no dey, say im children self neva eat, even if u try tel am say na ur mama fud b dt ohhh, im no go answer u, HOW U GO DU? dis is d case wit d N/D, our elders say Peson no fit dey inside wata make saop enta him eyes, witout oil, Testile, industries no go work, yet no single industry for N/D dem go gat to go Lagos kom buy, double d price, n this na wetin dem b d provider ohhh, wake up man, c reality, stop being snetimental okay

m nt against Yar Adua, bt since na OBJ put am 4 there, im neva get say of him own

i will b waitin 4 ur nest post

Warfy boy na wa 4 u ooh, wich 1 make u con dey yarn ike se n/d no be anuda citi nnsie naij. Una dey volnorabl 2 ful cortamet o if u nefa shek dat 1 yt. Una muth dey lke dube anyi na oly dubai. Hw peson go take fnd wourka wey go muld d skie scrapaz, hw peson go 4 get xpasz wey 4m naija's delta; them no dey ike go schol n d funi tin be say where 4 naij wey get xpatz. to be kotinue

@naijaway

bros abeg no ves if i say i undastand wetin u type i dey like b dat

1 MORE TIN, ABEG MAKE WE KOMOT MIND SAY IN THE NEST 20YRS DEM GO BUILD OUR REFINERIES, MAKE WE NO EVEN TINK AM SELF, EXCEPT GOD PITY US.

BECAUSE SOM1 SOMEWERE IS POCKETING A HUGE SOME OF [N $] MONI 4RM D EXPORT N IMPORT OF CRUDE OIL, ITS HIS OWN SHARE OF D COUTRIES WEALTH, IT WAS ASSIGNED 2 HIM SINCE DEM EVEN BORN MI SELF. NOT UNITL DT MAN DIES, HMMMMMM, INSHORT WE GO HOPE HOPE HOPE TILL WE GO DEY HOP, NO B COS, NA WETIN GO HAPPEN

ALL THESE THERE PROMISE NA TRASH, DEM NO GO FULFIL ANY1, IF DEM BELE FOOOL DEM LEAVE US D AY DEM MIT US, 1S AGAIN, EXCEPT GOD PITY US, PITY FROM GOD WILL B OUR SAVIOUR


"Let's continue to pray to God. He is greater than them all".

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I think baba Go slow should be given a chance.Th idea of 15years master plan for Niger Delta was not his.The plan was initiated during Obj's when it was first presented.
What the plan is all about is that to put physical infastructures in the region that would help give the area a big boost would take 15yrs.

I think Mr President needs to be reminded that he is not in perfect shape healthwise, so he should concnetrate in surviving to the end of this tenure before havi prolonged visions.

my guys,let us not be talking too much over nothing.mr president entered the throne just some days ago.He should be given the chance to display his talent.whether he read chemistry or not,that is not the thing at stake.from all indications,he has a track record in leadership.baba iyabo did not make any mistake in recommending him.i have been to his state and have seen alot of his achievements.i am a niger deltan and i think we should solve our own problems not xpecting somebody from another quarters to come and succeed or fail.let us make our home worth living.

Na wa o, come to think of it, we as citizens of Nigeria , we have a part to play.how have we contributed to the development of this Nation- like some of us, we dirty our environment by dumping refuse on high ways n the likes, we are in search of quick money and fraudulence acts,going about with malpractices, or is it Government that does all that? The society herself is corrupt, let us individually be discipline and stand for righteousness. Nigeria will be a land to be envied. Pray n work towards the betterment of this Nation. One love

I don't think it's yet time for us to conclude on the oresent administration.The NDDC plan was developed to last for 15 yrs and that does not mean that Yar'Dua is going to be in office for that 15yrs,it's just a Master Plan.Though we know that Nigeria hasall it takes to make Niger Delta areas look like Dubai,but we have not seen anything at all.I think the best thing we should do is to pray along and watch this govt. believing that it will change the situation of these pple a little bit no matter how small.I think with that they can have some moment s of respite from total neglect.

If Yaradua and likes are serious about developing Niger Delta, they dont need any master plan. It never works in Nigeria.

All they need move Federal Capital to Niger Delta from end of next month: that simple

You will see how rapid developement will be there.

Abuja was nothing in 1985. You see what it has become.

Since Nigeria lack basic trust in each other in developing nigeria.

Let them rotate Federal Capital every 20yrs.

2008-2028: Okrika-Niger Delta
2028-2048: Hadejia- North West
2048-2068: Kishi- South West

@babasin,
yes I concor
rotational federal capital will devcelop niger delta

babasin:



Abuja was nothing in 1985. You see what it has become.

Since Nigeria lack basic trust in each other in developing nigeria.

Let them rotate Federal Capital every 20yrs.

2008-2028: Okrika-Niger Delta
2028-2048: Hadejia- North West
2048-2068: Kishi- South West

think this idea is brilliant,mayb we should give it a try.

I thought they had plans on actually carrying out the rotational federal capital some years back.What became of that?

having a 15 year plan doesnt suggest that he intends to rule for 15 years, use your head. The poster of this miserable and insane thread is suffering from what i term "english language deficiency syndrome." Why are u trying to create turmoil? I suggest that u take a developmental class, u need help with English comprehension.

This man called yaradua the man no strong atall

that man yaradua is supposed to be attacked from every angle,He is very slow and act as if he is intelligent.since he came into the office i don't know what he is doing better than baba Olusegun.Yaradua shoul stop selling Crude oil and build refineries and get out of opec,so that he can be in a better position to know our capacity and manage the country well.We need to be selling crude oil products only!.
He claimed he is an analytical Chemist.why waste time.
He can't stay there for long,something will soon happen and you will see the twist that will remove him from office. I like him but he is supposed to be a very mean man.
If i were Niger deltains i will make sure that every oil installation there is destroyed.So that nigeria will stop selling crude,those guys are stupid to stop and strt kidnapping.

Every day the govt will make money and mismange it,Niger delta is supposed to be built and developed like Dubai.The niger Delta development plan must be created by a White pro in town development,Niger delta is supposed to be like Heaven.
okay you don't have light
no water
no road
no street light
bad money circulation,they carry our money overseas.
no medicine and hospital
bad insurance management
frequent tampering with the finance sector.
so many bad things are happening to us and we are smilling and suffering .

Listen we have to support those so called militants in order to dialogue effectively with the govt. if we have roundtable and peacful dialogue,they will be selling the crude oil,while we are having the roundtable talk.let us fight and die for a good cause and die for the good cause. me am not a foolish person. i no dey foolish. Stop supporting the Govt.Their policy is based on selfis interest. God will punish all those that sell our crude oil and mismanage the fund.Yaradua should save his neck,cause he is in deep problem already existing problem and he can't correct it even it he rules for 100 years.

MP007:

having a 15 year plan doesnt suggest that he intends to rule for 15 years, use your head. The poster of this miserable and insane thread is suffering from what i term "english language deficiency syndrome." Why are u trying to create turmoil? I suggest that u take a developmental class, u need help with English comprehension.

easy oga,Seun probably changed the topic to make it more eye catching.

If Nigerians are pessimistic, Who is to blame? The politician of course. They blab about how they will make Nigeria better than New York if they come to power. But alas, they cannot deliver in simple basic infrastructures and amenities.
How can someone be talking about planning for 15years when they cannot even successfully plan for 12months.

I beg all of them should stop imagining that the citizens are gullible. We are not.

After 100 days in office, they are yet to lay down a plan on how to solve the problem of electricity. All that OBJ administration achieved in that sector is constant naming ceremony for the inefficient government's [b]electric power authority. N.E.P.A, N.E.P Plc, PHCN [/b]very soon we will read about another naming ceremony for the organisation.
Let the Federal Government tell us, what its plan is for the remaining part of 2007. Then they can give us their plan for the year 2008. That is the way it is done in well organized society.

Talking about 2020 while the legislators are busy debating on how much their "speaker" is supposed to use for renovation is simply not convincing.

How can we be talking about 2020 when the ordinary citizens are dying because of deadly pot-holes on our Federal roads. For eight years, the last administration was planning on how they will dualize the Benin - Lagos road. So many lives and goods have been lost and yet, nothing is achieved. Now we are being told of paradise come 2020.

" I beg, let's talk about something much more serious" "Na person wey dey alive go see 2020" " No be person wey in whole family don pafuka say because of in put[b] I pass my neighbour[/b] inside room dose off" (Too many Nigerians have died from fumes from generator).

If he likes let him rule us for 100 years, so far he takes us to the promised land
LIFE GOES ON

If he likes let him rule us for 100 years, so far he takes us to the promised land
How ever life goes on

and the imperialist comes-in:

THE World Bank has given a pass mark to the economic policies of the Nigerian government in the first 100 days of President Umaru Musa Yar'Adua.

which economic policy? the failed naira-episode?

and yaradua already sounding like others before him:

COME 2020, Nigeria will emerge among the world's top 20 economies, leapfrogging from the present lowly 147th position, President Umaru Musa Yar'Adua once again pledged yesterday.

A country that could not generate 3000MW in 8yrs wants to be among 20 best economies within 13years(2020)

hey ve u noticed constant light is this part of Yar Adua's work or is fluke or mistake?