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BABEELOVE (f)
Re: Jena6 Injustice In Louisiana
« #32 on: September 15, 2007, 06:32 PM »

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denex
Re: Jena6 Injustice In Louisiana
« #33 on: September 15, 2007, 06:46 PM »

Hey,
        just realised I was no more banned. So I came in to holler a wee bit.


@Seun

        I don't ever stop. That's part of my Bushido code. Anyway, which of your mailboxes work? And phone number? Urgent and tres important.
Afam (m)
Re: Jena6 Injustice In Louisiana
« #34 on: September 15, 2007, 07:29 PM »

@Texazzpete,

You are right in your analysis as regards anyone using derogatory words on a race being a racist.

However, my worry is that you apply logic and objectivity when it suits you.

May I remind you that those that abuse the whites for whatever reasons are as guilty as you are when you discuss issues concerning the muslims or Islam.

It pays to be objective all the time, not just when we are comfortable with the situation on ground.

The piece by the white guy is cool and I also agree with him.

We usually fail to use mirrors I believe a lot of us have at home.

Enjoy the weekend and stay blessed.
Paw-Paw (m)
Re: Jena6 Injustice In Louisiana
« #35 on: September 16, 2007, 08:50 AM »

If una stay naija una for no suffer this wahala. I sorry o but we know they are rascist thats why we don't go to their country. So stop making yanga, if you don't like it carry go.
feelgood (m)
Re: Jena6 Injustice In Louisiana
« #36 on: September 16, 2007, 07:34 PM »

Very enlightening thread this is. can't help but notice that we have students & followers of Malcolm X and Martin Luther King jnr in the house.
Howbeit, racism is wrong from whatever race & I don't support violence or retaliation - twin evils. While the activities of the NAACP on the matter are commendable, dear goodguy, ur suggestion of violence wouldnt help, don't you think?
Meanwhile, lets go it easy on the tirades please. Its a beautiful world!
denex
Re: Jena6 Injustice In Louisiana
« #37 on: September 16, 2007, 08:06 PM »

I think you all should know what happened in Jena before preaching.

There was segregation in the fact that some African American Children were prevented from several locations.

Some students took permission from school authorities and sat under a tree reserved for only whites and the next day there were 3 nooses hanging from the tree arranged by 3 white students. I don't need to explain what that means.

In protest to the nonchallance with which the school authorities handled the matter, several Besig American students organised a sit out under the "white tree". The tree was later cut down.

On the night of the first Friday December 2006, 17 year old Robert Bailey was invited to a Dance that was supposedly a white event. When he walked into the venue he was punched, knocked down and beat down while on the ground by a group of white youth.

Only one of the white students was cautioned and he was asked to apologise. No attempted murder, no court case, not aggravated battery.

On the night of Saturday which was the next day, a white young man in company of two other white individuals pulled a gun on Robert Bailey who was in company of two other African Americans. They wrestled the gun away from the white guy, preventing him from shooting them. They were arrested by the police and charged with theft.

The next Monday, having confirmed that a certain Justin Barker was involved in the gun attack, in light of the taunts made at him, Robert Bailey attacked Barker and a couple of African American friends of his joined in beating Just Barker down.

They are currently facing charges that carry up to 100 years imprisonment.

A 16 year old Mychal Bell who did not take part in the incident, has been lumped up with the other 5 just because he's their friend. He's been in jail for 8 months due to his inability to say a $90,000 (N11.4 million) fine.
The Jury for his case are entirely white. A so-called jury of his peers. His parents were barred from entering the courtroom. Perhaps it too is a white court.

This is the world we live in. Racism is real. Let's stop deceiving ourselves. Everyone has some level of racial bias. Some people even hate their own race. But whichever way, it exists and everyone must be prepared to take action against any political, military, legal or personal attempt to make their race extinct.

The battle-line was drawn more than a thousand years ago so let's stop fooling ourselves thinking all is fine and dandy.

I keep trying to bring to light the fact that it wasn't just Martin Luther King's dreamy speeches that moved the compassion of the USA government into abandoning their apatheid and segregation laws. It was the fear of the violent black power movements and the Nation of Islam that forced their hand to choose the lesser evil.
feelgood (m)
Re: Jena6 Injustice In Louisiana
« #38 on: September 16, 2007, 10:54 PM »

Very logical conclusion, dear Denex. Very logical. But wrong all the same. The assassination of King jnr was an indication that the actions he was spearheading was hurting our white brothers. Elijah Mohammed's nation of islam was no threat - malcolm X was a greater threat than him, yet King's actions hurt more.
Anyway, NAACP is following up on this despicable and condemnable act & I trust, justice will be done.
Racism by any race is evil, I posit
mrnardo (m)
Re: Jena6 Injustice In Louisiana
« #39 on: September 20, 2007, 02:28 AM »

you know this is suppose to be the new south. Show me where it is NEW.
For a public official to say what he said is bullshit and he needs to be impeached and thrown out of office.
Now to the person who posted that one speech about "being proud of being white".
There is nothing wrong with being proud of your race. But unforntianally some assholes have taken it to far and that is why people get upset when white people ex cert there race.
And it is nevedr right to call some one a racial name.
And even more wrong when black people call each other nigger.
Mostly when the average person dose not now what the word really means or stands for.
And you talk about a all white college or WET (white entertainment TV),  there have been white colleges for centuries and  still are. Also The media is WHITE where have you been living under a rock?
Society is is still a WHITE society and always will be.
We are close to getting a black or women for President. But don't get it twisted.
The GOOD OLE BOYS who run this country will not stand for that.
Don't forget they MURDER 4 of the most powerful men ion this country,
Dr. Martin Luther King, Malcom X, John F. Kennedy, And Robert  Kennedy.\
Now if they can and did get away with that what makes you think things will change?

People you must understand Racistism and Bigotry has been around since the begging of time and always be here.
No matter what culture or race you are.
Just deal with it and educate your kids.
And yes Iam a BLACK AMERICAN and DAMN PROUD of it.
analyt82 (f)
Re: Jena6 Injustice In Louisiana
« #40 on: September 20, 2007, 06:58 PM »

It's sadly true that all this is happening, but there are other small towns probably going through the same thing or worse. Michael Basden has been putting together a march that is probably going on now in Gena. There are 100's of thousands of people there. I pray that everything is done in decency and order.
mrnardo (m)
Re: Jena6 Injustice In Louisiana
« #41 on: September 20, 2007, 07:10 PM »

hell not just in small towns. This thing has gone on forever and will continue to go on.
I just implore all of you who will goto this march or goto this small narrow minded town to do one thing, And that is to use your BRAIN first.
If you go in using your fist then you will defeat the purpose and give these bigots the power. Because all they think is that we are animals and savages.
But in no means do you stand and there and not defend yourself.
Remember there are 2 kinds of dangerous minority's.
1, is a minority with a gun and a badge cause he can shot your ass and get away with it.
unless he shots a rich white kid. LMFAO
And 2, A minority with a BRAIN and who knows how to use it.
mizklaasy (f)
Re: Jena6 Injustice In Louisiana
« #42 on: September 21, 2007, 01:10 AM »

frankly, i am not at all surprised by this newly opened topic,i say newly open because its an old topic thats been newly opened,get it.racism go back so many years. what did  u think it dissappeared?just cause people don't openly express there feelings don't mean they don't feel it.this has been going on for decades. i am from Louisiana i currently reside in los angeles, where we openly express our hate lol.but i hope justice is served and another black man's life is not confined to prison that would be totally unjust, but,u gotta remember who runs the world,black people are to busy fighting each other to fight the right fight.i wish black people would get the hint and open there eyes,how many messages do we need people?
toshmann (m)
Re: Jena6 Injustice In Louisiana
« #43 on: September 21, 2007, 04:27 PM »

the truth of america for all its worth is that. . ."america is a white nation founded upon the genocide of another race and the enslavement of yet another race" _________jim wallis

if anybody thinks that racism will disappear he or she must be dreaming. but i feel we must do our best to control it. racism will never end. but we can live with it. let us avoid confrontation as much as possible. for our own good. especially we blacks. i'll rather that march in jena was for correcting the inequality in jobs and poverty eradication etc. as much as i hate white people i would not go and risk a fight just b/c i want to sit under some f-cking tree. if they chose some bloody tree as theirs why not go to another tree? infact here in cardiff, if i enter a club/pub and look around and all i see are white faces i'll quickly get out.

we are living in a world where there is so much racial injustice in terms of jobs, housing, education, poverty etc and we are using all this energy to fight against racism "attached to a f-cking tree". it diverts attention.

13 million children in the US are living in untold poverty (majority of them black children) and all attention is unavoidably going to some f-cking tree. well it has happened already, let the struggle continue for the lad to get justice. but i'm afraid, the african american community has lost focus of hotter battles
naija_diva (f)
Re: Jena6 Injustice In Louisiana
« #44 on: September 21, 2007, 09:02 PM »

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13 million children in the US are living in untold poverty (majority of them black children) and all attention is unavoidably going to some f-cking tree. well it has happened already, let the struggle continue for the lad to get justice. but i'm afraid, the african american community has lost focus of hotter battles
i understand where u are coming from but it has nothing to do with a tree. its the fact that the kids went through some injustice. they getting punished for something stupid and might even go to jail for most or all of their lives. the town that they live in is still some what racist. i know you read articles on it before but this one really cleared it up for me because at first i didn't know what was really going on. but when you see the whole picture you get a better understanding.

Jena 6 National Week of Solidarity Action.pdf
* Jena 6 National Week of Solidarity Action.pdf (111.38 KB - downloaded )
mrnardo (m)
Re: Jena6 Injustice In Louisiana
« #45 on: September 22, 2007, 05:07 PM »

OK I'm sorry Naija_diva but you are wrong it is about a tree.
For years only wht people where aloud to set at that tree and once blk kids do then there are problems. And instead of trying to fix the problem what do they do?, they cut the damn tree down.
What a bunch of DUMBASS. That is not going to solve the problem. The tree is was a symbol. And a cattails to fix the racial probelm in that town.
And yes I have read everything that was publicly printeds and even some things that did not make the paper.
analyt82 (f)
Re: Jena6 Injustice In Louisiana
« #46 on: September 24, 2007, 02:39 PM »

Toshmann and mrnardo, I disagreed with some of your statements.  :-\Before everyone got involved it started out being about a tree, then other events followed until 6 young men were imprisoned.  I wish I could've been at the march, b/c by the time it got there it "WASN'T" about a tree then.  It was about marching for what we believe in as a people. Our rights. Sometimes you gotta start off small before you can tackle bigger issues. We have to let them know that we mean business and that we'll band together to get a point across. Racism will never end, but that doesn't mean we have to lay down and take it either. A tree might be f*$#ing stupid to you, but what about the sit-ins? If you can't sit in one restaurant, then go to ananother?  Did you think those were stupid, b/c all they did was sit there? They changing something, they were making history, they started small and peaceful. But they made a point in time. Change takes time, but it has to start somewhere. Just like poverty, it is a continued struggle that has been here sense the beginning of time. Shocked
naija_diva (f)
Re: Jena6 Injustice In Louisiana
« #47 on: September 24, 2007, 07:37 PM »

Quote from: mrnardo on September 22, 2007, 05:07 PM
OK I'm sorry Naija_diva but you are wrong it is about a tree.
For years only wht people where aloud to set at that tree and once blk kids do then there are problems. And instead of trying to fix the problem what do they do?, they cut the damn tree down.
What a bunch of DUMBASS. That is not going to solve the problem. The tree is was a symbol.
And a cattails to fix the racial probelm in that town.
And yes I have read everything that was publicly printeds and even some things that did not make the paper.

i don'tknow what story you read but no tree was cut down. i don't know if u read the attachment i posted but to cut a long story short, this is basically about injustice and unfairness. every american child knows that if you get into a fight, regardless of why the fight even started knows that you get suspended or expelled. only if you bring a weapon, then the school has the right to call the police. the black kids didn't carry any weapons on them but they end up in lots of trouble, with potential jail time. the principal of that school knew that the white kids put the nooses on the tree and expelled them but their superintendent was basically trying to say, it was for fun so let them go. you don't play or have "fun" with something like that. and that when everything escaladed.
mrnardo (m)
Re: Jena6 Injustice In Louisiana
« #48 on: September 25, 2007, 06:46 PM »

actually if you read everything on this issue you would have read that they did cut the tree down. and the wht kids did not get expelled they got suspended thats a big difference, And any where else in the good ole USA they would of been EXPELLED and charged with a hate crime. Because what they did falls in they category.
I don't know where your from  but here in the USA  we are treeted the same and never will be.
naija_diva (f)
Re: Jena6 Injustice In Louisiana
« #49 on: September 25, 2007, 10:44 PM »

Quote from: mrnardo on September 25, 2007, 06:46 PM
actually if you read everything on this issue you would have read that they did cut the tree down. and the wht kids did not get expelled they got suspended thats a big difference, And any where else in the good ole USA they would of been EXPELLED and charged with a hate crime. Because what they did falls in they category.
I don't know where your from but here in the USA we are treeted the same and never will be.

how about you check my profile because it clearly says dc/md. in case you don't know, that's the district of columbia and maryland. and as for your comment about of them being expelled, they were for like a day but the superintendent of that school dismissed it and just gave them suspension.
chiogo (f)
Re: Jena6 Injustice In Louisiana
« #50 on: October 09, 2007, 07:50 PM »

Hey y'all. I thought i was d only one who knew about d incident, we discussed it in my "Law and justice" class at school.I even wrote an article on it. I feel for those kids, i never knew incidents of racism still occur these days.

For all those arguin', the main issue is not about d noose hung on d tree. That was dismissed as a prank even though d white kids shld have been punished. The issue is that on the street, the 6 black kids were threatened by a white man with a shot gun, the kids tried to defend themselves by wrestlin' d gun out of d white man. Instead of the white dude gettin' arrested for murder threats, the kids were arrested for theft of d gun and d white man was left with no charges. Now, that's racism!! naija_diva was right.
naija_diva (f)
Re: Jena6 Injustice In Louisiana
« #51 on: October 09, 2007, 10:09 PM »

Quote from: chiogo on October 09, 2007, 07:50 PM
Hey y'all. I thought i was d only one who knew about d incident, we discussed it in my "Law and justice" class at school.I even wrote an article on it. I feel for those kids, i never knew incidents of racism still occur these days.
For all those arguin', the main issue is not about d noose hung on d tree. That was dismissed as a prank even though d white kids shld have been punished. The issue is that on the street, the 6 black kids were threatened by a white man with a shot gun, the kids tried to defend themselves by wrestlin' d gun out of d white man. Instead of the white dude gettin' arrested for murder threats, the kids were arrested for theft of d gun and d white man was left with no charges. Now, that's racism!! naija_diva was right.


racism is definetely alive today. u see people in nortthern states may not see as much racism as those in southern states. i live in maryland state, but the dc are. only black people live there and in some part of baltimore because other parts in maryland, especially places that have farm areas, people there are racist. they live in there own neighborhood and have their own flag. technically speaking, maryland is in the south because we are below the mason dixon line, but we don't consider ourselves the south, nor the north.
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