Official Thread of Free-To-Air Satellite TV (Part 1)

Regarding MBC Persia and Press TV both on 7w:

One thing I have noticed is that both are on Atlantic Bird 4 instead of either Nilesat 101 & 102; it may just be that AB 4 is as/more easily received in the south as/than the Nilesats and/or that some AB4 transponders are difficult in the North. Here in the UK, I cannot receive AB 4 transponders though I can receive most V (no H) transponders from the Nilesats.


Regarding JSC+1 etc

These are open today via DCW (similar to Biss) keys. Any receiver with an up to date patch and a Biss/DCW menu should be able to clear them presently.


Regarding olofofo's Starsat

It seems that receivers sold in Naija are patched by the sellers before being sold. Take the Strong receiver: it can only work with 6969 or 8282 after being patched; but many people buy it, do not patch it themselves, yet find 6969 working; this is simply because it was patched already when they bought it. So olofofo's starsat might have been patched by the time of purchase. Although, I would like to know whether the Starsat cleared JSC with Irdeto or DCW keys; olofofo might be able to tell us that by browsing through the keys menu.


@ toxnaija

hope you feel strong soon again


@ enitan

Next time you post a picture of your receiver's keys menu, it is better to post a slot with no keys in it; or you coulld even have cleaned the keys from the 'Premiere' slot that you used since you are never likely to receive Premiere (19e) in Naija.

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@ Toxnaija.

Sorry to hear that you were not feeling very well the last few days. I hope you recover fully pretty soon.  

Regarding Olofofo's StarSat Receiver, Enigma excellently took care of that.

On the subject of Fibre Dishes. Are those locally made in Nigeria? How smooth are the inside surfaces of these Dishes? The last time I saw some locally fabricated dishes, it appeared there were lots of irregualrities on the surfaces of those dishes. Considering they are light weight and  resistant to rust, I tend to be leaning towards buying one in my future purchase. How much would it cost to secure 3M Fibre Dish in Nigeria?

This Question is not FTA related!!!

Is there any Private Message (PM) Feature on this Board/Forum. For the life of me, I can't seem to find the DAM* feature on this board!!!

@all

this is the one that i have, the earlier one is the one i saw in the market today

http://sat-receiver-world.com/producer/starsat/starsat-sr-x3100cu.html

@ enigma,
thanks for giving me a reply based on keys input on my decoder, the thing there is that it wont make any difference if i use a blank one or not, the major problem i'm facing is that it has only 16keys and not 32keys space as that of strong, how can i convert the 32bits to 16bits, thats the point am driving to.

@ all,
If 3 satellites are on the same angle like that of nilesat101,102, and atlantic brid 4 so likewise intelsat7/10ku, it is not possible for all these to be at the same degree, there'll be a slight difference in angle between the those satellites.
I will post the angles in my next setup.

And also, concerning the suggestion someone posted some hours ago, concerning we guys here setting up a face-to-face forum come this december, i brought that suggestions some months back and i dont know if almost everyone concur. Cos if we most likely do, then a committee should be setup, so that the earlier we start the preparation the better the event will turn out to be.

@ toxnaija,
i got ya feeling, it was not the cause of the rift that matters to me but how you went about it . If you must have some ill-feeling towards me, i think that should have been done in a more vital way which is invariably through phone but you didnt do that, and you posted it on the forum.You made me look like someone who has gone haywired and looking for popularity based on my findings. And i was like, as close as we are you can still do that, i just went beserk and couldnt control my emotion, i felt betrayed just like Jesus felt when Judas betrayed him, but HE kept calm but I didnt cos HE(jesus) is not an ordinary human being like I do. So mistakes is inherent in us.
I went way too far in the choice of words i used against you, and i will definitely apologize for that(i.e those words i used against you, and not the hopeful result of my research).
If possible i would have modified my post on that, but i dont do that, am someone that hold myself responsible what anything i say and do, and what am doing now will serve as a record that i've wronged you greatly with the words i used against you.
It's now left if we want to make this like before or even better, that is between us. You must not put your trust in your fellow human being, that doesnt me you must not trust them. I hope you understood that?
I felt like if you dont reply to my post based on my wrongdoing, i WILL NEVER mention that again.
When there's a dispute between two parties, and if the two paries are to be reconciled, they must first admit on their wrongdoing, whether you like it or not, we both have a share in this blame.

@ vickoy23,
I just couldnt believe i said all those words to you, just find it in your heart to forget about everything, and lets all keep moving this thread to a greater height.
I hope all is well now?


@ mide2008,
I dont think you were included sha, but all the same we all miss your contribution on this forum, we all here are waiting patiently for your comeback (IPADABO ABIJA)

@ BADARU1,
WHATS KICKING IN YOUR END?

@ OLA,
how far with that accommodation stuff now, i've been busy these days now?

@ olofofo,
wetin do your nilesat installation?

I will really advise every satellite ethusiasts to have a n old model strong decoder for tracking usage esp 4650 or 4652, thats the problem olofofo is facing now, once you have that then you can now get any number of other brands of decoders

@all

for all those with 1.8m motorized and with access to Eutelsat w6, there's an encrypted Movie channel called Aflam on 11653 V 15714. They show a mixed array of movies both in English and in French. and they have a publicly available BISS key, Google it and enjoying viewing.

@all
turn your FTA pictures to near High Definition transmission by getting a component video cable, most of the new strong decoders comes with this connection. it is way better than the normal AV cable. need i mention that most flat screen, LCD, Plasma TVs and Home theater systems  come with this connection as well.

@eniitan

Me I no vex at all. I just believe the comm breakdown took a lower turn which I was not comfortable with at all. I actually had composed some stuffs for your attention but had to save it away in my pc and just let the thread continue on it's primary objective - FTA. From my end, no troblem (i.e trouble plus problem) at all.

@tox9ja

even though the tongue and teeth share the same apartment, they sometime do misunderstand each others rhythm in the process of achieving a common goal - getting the delicious meal into the stomach. See it in this light.

Meanwhile how is your health? I never knew u were ill. I believe you have recovered fully. Will give u a call later.

@linksman

Sorry I did not reply your text. I am on a one man way against the telecom companies. they have milked us too much so I am on no recharge card protest for now. lol. will call you once we reach a compromise on our dialog - me and the telecom coys.

@Mr. gem

i had to access my barber's HITV menu and I found out that diseq menu is on it. I could not do much on it since he has no multiple dishes. I would have to go lay my hand on one and bring it home for experiment purpose. With the menu I saw, diseq should work. will let u know my findings. keep trying from your end too.

@banky77

That is the truest talk of the millenum. That forum, if organized, would bring a revolution to FTA in Nigeria. This forum is full of resourse persons who can make things happen. Where do we start from? i should think a commitee shuld be set up asap with BIG JOE himself been the chair been the author of this forum. What do u think

@all
I once posted my prophecy on this thread that I foresee a TP rising out of this forum. I have to modify that prophesy to be TPs. I can see it happening once FTA awareness becomes a wild fire because of this forum. Let's get  started Jo.

Today is supposed to be Daarsat's big day but i am yet to lay my hand on any new dev. Any news out there? I am still news hunting though.

All,

Just 24hrs away from this thread and it feels like forever. my starcomms subscription expired and i didn't know, thot i still had 2 more weeks, so i have been off the grid, i have finally sorted that one out sha, hopefully for the next one month, i will be totally linked to the net through what might be broadband (still have to experience it fully) from a neighbouring cyber cafe.

Jujukemist,

Finally someone feels my pain, knowing someone else receives mbc persia on 2.4m dish in Ibadan and i can't receive it with1.8m in KD, even though i receive other channels is really frustrating, but i have read through the various explanations given, what still puzzles me though is that we receive atl bird 4 well enough because the strongest freq on the entire nilesat setup is 10758, and it is on atl brd 4, but another thing is even though that is the signal we use for tracking initially because it is the highest, we then have to tilt the dish slightly away from that position to get the other 2 birds, this causes a slight reduction from the signal quality from atl bird 4, so even though we get the strongest TP, we might not necessarily get the others, maybe tilting the dish to the best position for atl bird 4 might bring in mbc persia, but that will then raise the question on whether it is worth to forsake all the other beautiful tps just for mbc persia, but like u said, we have to explore, just got your mail, i'll call u now.

Toxnaija/Enitan

That is the way to go, please continue along this line. all the best. sorry about your health toxnaija.

Olofofo,

i just checked my bulk mail and saw your post, only prob is that clicking on the link doesnt open the images, it only takes me to their home page. are there forces working against me with respect to JSC?

Enitan,

i see u and baba enigma have already discussed everything on keys, i'll take my time and read the posts carefully and see if there's anything else. all the best,.

ch 55 is back       daarsat??

Yeah Gangsta

Go to the page for AB 4 on Lyngsat and you will see that it has two beams. 10758 is on the ME beam whereas both Press TV and MBC Persia are on the Wide beam. Click on each beam and see how far each beam extends to Northern Nigeria and compare.

The only other thing is why is toxnaija able to receive it? First, the size of his dish; second, it is possible that certain parts of Western Naija enjoy positive prorogation of the AB4 Wide beam signals.

In fact, these considerations show why it is simply false to assume that the number of dishes pointing at a particular satellite can increase its signal strength. It is simply not scientifically possible.  Related story: one time, a neigbour of mine here thought my 90cm dish with several LNBs was the reason why her DTT TV was not working well; I explained to her it was not scientifically possible; she remained adamant until I looked at her set-up only to find that her scart plugs were not connected properly; once, I fixed that she had perfect signals and apologised profusely.



A bigger dish is always going to be better at receiving signals from a satellite for someone outside the footprint or in a fringe reception area.

all,
thanks for the care.I am gradually returning to full health though I had to take a break.mide2008 too is just recovering too.The Showtime 02 keys can also open Bloomberg,apart from Disney.Aflam morocco's keys are also out in biss encryption.Open the key menu on Strong using 8280 to get biss.

Enitan,
no qualms.My gang members and I have decided to finally bury the hachet but you must come to Lekki roundabout naked at midnight on Saturday for some etutus,like you always see in Nollywood.Bring along 7 Humax decoders,7 Showtime cards and the heads of OBJ and Yar'adua still dripping with blood.I can tell you how to catch baba in Abeokuta though I love him.Ignoring this etutu is at your peril ooooooo oko Chioma,abi another one don take over.One of our secrets eh?

wahwah,
wetin be ch.55?

Gofitech,
thanks for the call.any new bird or frequency?If not for you and mide2008,there would have been total blackout on Premiership.2m Maroc Nat is the only reliable access now and the e tv feeds on 0.8w which joins Supersports occasionally.2M Maroc's line-up for football this Saturday  SAMEDI 11 OCTOBRE:10h50: Transworld Sport 11h45: Futbol Mundial 20h15: Champions League Magazine(GMT).

Enigma,
I cant wait to meet that your neighbour.I remember when my dishes in  Abeokuta were installed some years back,all my neighbours were very happy thinking that the signals will enter their tv sets from the space directly.Some even thought I was using the dishes to broadcast my tv news to the studios in Lagos and Abeokuta.I spoke with mide2008 on the more dishes issue,he too felt that it is not electromagnetically possible.sorry for the vocab.I was reminiscing on my Physics days which got me into satellites.

jujukemist,learn to believe people ,this forum is for people who maKe research and post the information for the benefit of others,i said on this forum that i have mbc persia and you seem not believing me ,No sweat,believe it or not i am enjoying it at home right now MBC PERSIA FOR EVER.That is to tell you this forum its not for big people but small people like us can also contribute to some extent,thanks to Badaru who bring the best in me on Nilesat.I never handle big dish on my own ,i only tried w3a 7 degree and i nailed it since then the moral to nail that Nilesat has been there for me and i did,if it were to be in the Army badaru will be General while i will be lance corporal but it doesnt mean lance corporal cant become a General .Learnt to believe people,NO BE FIGHT O.

I was about to say I did not subscribe to that Idea. How did you prove it.

Naah, pointing many dishes at a satellite does not increase the signal coming from the satellite!

As biggjoe asked, how did you prove the theory?

@Enigma,
I have learnt never to say never. However, I have found it very difficult to believe that a geosynchronous satellite will adjust its beam because downlink stations have increased.

Now,
Before the debate is thrown out of context, let me point out again that what Badaru was said to have suggested was that multiple dishes pointing to a particular satellite will increase the signal beamed to a particular area and NOT that pointing many dishes at a satellite will increase the signal coming from the satellite. I did it a course in the uni. on satellite transmission and in fact on all microwave frequencies.

I will find it much easier to believe that the signal strength  might increase because of high demand from down link stations. The satellite makers can make provisions for that; and not that the signal that has been naturally weak at a particular area (because the area is off the footprint) will increase.

However, with all my assumptions, I cannot say its impossible. Oyibo is always  redefining that word, impossible.

Yeah biggjoe I get your point

1. If the claim is that more dishes pointing at a satellite can somehow scientifically increase the signal strength coming from a satellite, then the answer remains no.

As I understand it, this is the claim that is being made repeatedly by a few people; this claim I continue to disagree with. If this is not the claim being made, I will be glad to see a modification and I will respond as appropriate


2. If the claim is that from an economic perspective, the more dishes pointing to a satellite can mean that the owners/operators of/on the satellite find it worthwhile to point their satellite beam(s) in the concerned direction, then this is a point that I myself have made several times on this thread and on other FTA threads here.

But from my understanding, no. 2 above is not what is being claimed; my understanding is that the claim is for number 1.

Even if the claim is for number 2, Nilesat owners/operators have not consciously increased signal/beam to Nigeria. Look, even on both 36e and 68.5e where you have operators doing business in Nigeria only limited or spot beams can be received in Nigeria. Or does anyone think that only the DSTV/HiTV bouquets are on 36e or only MyTV on 68.5e?