"Don't Touch Me!" She Shouts, after Deliberately Brushing Me

Cimonn is gone. I need to find my square root too. I have beenonline since i woke up. it's already noon..

oh my Goodness, whats up with you "Justmoi"? Ok yes i don't understand English, and yes i am trying too. Thank you.

What i was saying there, exactly was that i do have to refer back to a dictionary to understand the usage of a specific word.

Ok give me a break. You seem to enjoy pointing our peoples mistakes and judging them. Are you flawless?

@ Cimonjorr, here is the problem; you narrated a "personal experience" and asked for people's opinions on it. I gave my opinion based on the limited information that you presented. All I suggested was that to avoid situations like the one you described, it maybe better to approach couples with whom you are already friends or to approach single women.

You got all touchy and claimed that I recommended you 'chance' the man for his girlfriend.  Where did you get that from? You also alluded that you would not be predisposed to approaching an unaccompanied, single woman at a club because she more often than not would be a lady of easy virtue. This is not the prevalent view/culture in the western world. Mind you, there may be exceptions to this. That is why I asked you, where the event happened and what the culture at that location is. I am still waiting for a response to that. 

Maybe, female patients of mental institutions carry on conversations with themselves and go around "brushing" and saying "don't touch me" to guys who have done nothing, whatsoever to them. But the average girl on the street does not do that. That is why the veracity of your story was questioned. You did say in one of your posts that, "Girls are prone to this kind of behavior" My question to you is, what are you trying to say, or maybe it should be, where do you hang out?

Not until you replied to Seun did you state that, if the girl had been nearby to overhear the conversation, then maybe she may have been justified in taking offense, but that she wasn't. The fact is that this is new and important information that was not supplied in your original post. If it were in your original post, then there is a possibility it might have affected my response, but the fact is that it wasn't. There was nothing offensive about my post. It had nothing to do with the battle of the sexes, but was an honest response based on the information I had received (as of then). So, why did you have to get all huffy and puffy, misinterprete me etc etc? Unless and until we get over this hump, then no, you and I can never get to the "main thrust of your post"

Now if you are the kind of guy that want's people to tell you what you want to hear as opposed to the truth, then maybe you should have narrated the story as a hypothetical situation. Then all this sensitivity would not have arisen and you wouldn't unjustifiably feel that you were being attacked.

Your blanket claim that I am in support of violence by women is just hogwash. Any intelligent person - which you are not - would realise that I support it only in certain cases. For example, when a woman is in danger of being raped or to fend off a groper(which would constitute self defense). I don't give a hoot about your opinion, so feel free to keep same.

In your response to my advise that approaching an attached couple that are strangers to you, might pose certain problems, you responded: "...If the guy had said hell no!! or something along those lines, then I would have let them be ...And as it went, the guy was not adverse to my approach..[hell, it would have been better than walking up to the girl and asking her, trying to disrespect his presence ..???or don't you think so?"

My answer to you is that, no I don't think so. The girl is entitled to respect just the same as the guy and in a situation where it is not possible to accomplish both, then move on to plan B. The question you asked and the statement you made are to be expected only from an uncivilized male chauvinist pig with neanderthal tendencies. The 'missing link', perhaps? I know that some of the above may not apply to you, but then again,(to borrow your words of wisdom??) "I do not know you very well."

Personal attacks are not allowed on this forum, please.

I understand that we may get offended without meaning to, but we should not allow our 'fights' to last for more than 2 posts before settling our differences.  If a fight lasts for more than 2 posts I may simply delete the entire exchange.

So, Cimonjorr, don't be offended at me and Justmoi.  And Justmoi, Cimonjorr is a pretty nice person.

This is getting rather kind of personal... isn't it?? 


You know what...

In this case, I'm going to.. for the first time.. agree to disagree with you..

You obviously have your opinions.. I have mine...

All this talk hasn't shed any insights into why this kind of behavior is displayed by some ladies on occasion.. I wish it was only limited to just this incident, then maybe there would have been some cogence to your theories.. However, it has been observed by me on more than one occasion.. and yes, also during the "personal experience" on the night in question.. which was why I started this thread to find out if there was something more to it.. possibly an inner defense mechanism kicking in or something...

Your sheer persistence in ignoring the facts as they have been presented, and preference for slighting on my person may be justifiable by you; but frankly has become tiring.. We have exchanged quite a volume of chit-chats on this topic, and are getting no where... I still do not see your point in not addressing the issue I have put forth for discussion, and in continouosly selecting portions of my replies and using them out of context..


Here is the quote that you "suggested" [apparently my use of the word "recommend" to describe this is also "part of the problem"] that a guy 'chance' another guy for his girlfriend..
If you had taken time to have a rational reading of my posts, you'll see that  that statement I made falls squarely under the 'hypothetical' senario I was trying to use as an example of how people interelate in order to settle issues and differences as human beings.. through dialog.. polite exhange of words.. But no.. as usual, you take a portion of what I've written and twist it to your satisfaction..

Since you've asked, the incident took place at an "African" night club.. All the parties involved were Africans..


Ok.. now in how many more ways is it possible to say this..

The Lady In Question Was Not Around When I Was Having A Conversation With Her Boyfriend..

I have told you this before.. I have said so again.. and I have not supplied any more information to the description of the incident as it originally occurred.. She was not there when the conversation between her boyfriend and I took place.. Hence couldn't have heard or overheard the conversation..

(Please Nairalanders, if there's another possible way to say this which I haven't explored, please assist.. I really don't know of any more ways possible to say this in english.. )


Well, your sentiments here are noted, and appreciated.. After all, they are your opinions.. I would still like to know how this applies to the incident which occurred here, (as it was neither a case of raping or groping..)

As I have said before, all this pedagogue has not shed any insights into why this behavior occurs.. We have been going round in circles, with much talk over peripherals.. The main issue, to me, hasn't even been scratched.. But at least I'm happy in one respect.. You haven't come out to deny categorically that some ladies have behaved like this on occasion.. So, at least, our fellow Nairalanders wouldn't feel that this was all "made up".. (fabricated)..

Rather than decending into a slanging match with you (you claim that there's nothing offensive in your post replies to the thread, but I assure you I can fish out several places where you have definitely been less than complimentary..), I'D rather hear from others who may either support your position, support my observations, or have their own thinging and opinions on the matter..

It has really been nice interacting with you on this issue.. Really been intellectually stimulating.. maybe we'll meet in some other threads to come..

Have a nice one...



ps... Seun, Tayotina..

Really, I'm not offended.. It's nice at times to have conversations which "extend beyond the ordinary" as long as basic etiquette is maintained.. I appologise for sending this in a bit late (I was still working out a suitable reply to her post ), and this will be my last response on this war..

However it would be nice if we could all respect each others' person..

Thanks for the character recommendation.. I really appreciate it..


Saint... 

Tina, me too ooo....I thought she was male, not till yesterday. Props to a sistah..she did her thing!

  Not realy cimon. But she tried.

Yay.. U are here.

@ Ra..

Thanks..

I must appologise if the tone of my post sounded like I was generalizing.. I know that this sort of behavior does not apply to all ladies.. (and hopefully not the ladies of the Nairaland.com forum)..

However, I have observed this sort of behavior from ladies.. on different occasions.. and it lead me to create this post..

I mean, fair enough, there's no law that says that a lady "must 'gree' a guys own" if he approaches for conversation, whatever unterior motives he may have.. however, a polite "no thank you" can do a lot.. much more than a "GERROUT FROM MY SIGHT! ! ! "...

And besides, it's much more classy... 

Thanks again..



Saint...

Honestly,  I didn't consider this,  because she definitely didnt look it, and she wasn't slurring her words or acting  in such a manner,  I'D have said that I think she was reasonably sober, 

Still, thanks for all the comments, 

Its quite funny, the way some of us jump to conclusions. A girl, one girl, acts like a wierdo and its news. A female senator slaps a male senator and it is uncivil. But when its a hot fight between two men, some people will claim they are being 'macho'.

some of u are saying, 'don't mind them, that's how they behave'. IS that how ur mom behaves, is that how ur sister(s) behaves. Now u will be quick to claim u have female folks who are angels. Listen Y'all. Learn to look at a lady first as human, then as a woman. That way, it makes you understand that some people are just immature or seeking attention, like i think its the case in the story. There are a thousand and one girls who will not do that (as I am one) so don't jump into conclusions. It is called hasty generalisation. And you have a bad picture of women.

Now, I know social construct has a role here as we cannot live apart from societal dictates but there is an extent to which we all contribute to our neighbours' reaction. Or what else do you really think Women liberation is really about? for me, it is a 'fight back' against ills and evils. And just like Shakespeare's character, Othello. U all can make the burden of women better. asking how? Now, try recount on this thread, an act, by one woman, just one, each one of your. Recount an act that has changed your life. That way, you'll see, what angels God has placed around you.
Ciao

LOL am not surprised jare, women fronte too much , their wahala is too much.

Am sure she wanted u to touch her , but did u na

". . You people wanted equal rights, well u got it. Now stand there and enjoy it!!"                                                            
                       -Tony Hancock when asked to give up his seat to a woman on a bus.            

i guess u'll appreciate people messing up your day in the morning if it hadnt bin a friday,innit?

@aisha
In this case her "No" meant "Yes", because it wasn't like the guy brushed on her, she did all in the name of "Attention". And plz stop taking this things serious, u are to up tight for ma jare.!!!! Biko

@calf
On a normal day I would have gone kolomental, but friday happens to be a day I love the most.

That girl is either mentally unstable or she's playing a new game which only she is aware of.

Can't stop laughing.She's really a girl and not a lady.u shld not expect anything less from her.
        omo na mental case.