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olabowale (m)
Re: The Important Of Fasting To Muslim
« #224 on: November 19, 2007, 05:09 PM »

@Pilgrim.1: You are very funny. Islam have been firmly established, for over 1400 years. All the Arabs and the Jews already agreed that it is immovable. This was while England the country you now live in and educating you, is still in its darkest of dark ages. You from Nigeria, with a flare for controversy, thinks you know Ruh differently from what Muhammad said to the Jews it is.

Do you know what Ruh is then? Please help the Jews out, who did not have any responsecontrary to Muhammad's answer to them. They never again tried to ask him any question about Ruh again. They knew, before hand that they would  not like the answer they got and they received exactly what fitted their evil intent. Read my entry and discuss it with your Church leaders. Ask them if they know what Ruh is? Then ask them if they know what Ruh Qudus is?


Everyone , who has any understanding of Islam knows that Ruh Qudus is Malaika Jibril. Everyone knows that Ruh in the verse 85 if Isra is SOUL, which makes mankind alive.
olabowale (m)
Re: The Important Of Fasting To Muslim
« #225 on: November 19, 2007, 05:42 PM »

@Pilgim.1: Its okay. You live your christianity to the fullest. Then if you desire to hang your hope on a man's death on the cross, who did not go willingly to that death and cried out for why he was abandoned, then be my guest. I on the other hand, prayed that i will die in the hope that my Lord, Who is always merciful will have mecy over us all.
Your verse 71 is well known to all of us. It is you who is afraid. Not the muslims. For instance, I was never afraid to die, but never pray for it. It will be forbidden. We all have to pass on the bridge over Hellfire. The non belivers will fall into hellfire and InshaAllah, the true believers will pass over it in the speed commensurating with their believe and good deeds.

When you read that verse, if it does not affect your heart, then wait and I will wait. Allah will be the judge of all.Then, verily, We know best those who are most worthy of being burnt therein.) Then, at this point Allah attaches one piece of information to another. The meaning here is that Allah best knows which of His creatures deserve to be burned in the fire of Hell and remain there forever and who deserves to have his punishment doubled. This is as He says in the Ayah that was previously mentioned,


[قَالَ لِكُلٍّ ضِعْفٌ وَلَـكِن لاَّ تَعْلَمُونَ]


(He will say: "For each one there is double (torment), but you know not.'') [7:38]


[وَإِن مِّنكُمْ إِلاَّ وَارِدُهَا كَانَ عَلَى رَبِّكَ حَتْماً مَّقْضِيّاً - ثُمَّ نُنَجِّى الَّذِينَ اتَّقَواْ وَّنَذَرُ الظَّـلِمِينَ فِيهَا جِثِيّاً ]


(71. There is not one of you but will pass over it (Hell); this is with your Lord, a decree which must be accomplished.) (72. Then We shall save those who had Taqwa. And We shall leave the wrongdoers in it, Jithiyya.)

olabowale (m)
Re: The Important Of Fasting To Muslim
« #226 on: November 19, 2007, 05:55 PM »

@Pligrim.1: This is Ruh and Nafs, being the same thing, in the Surah of maraim. I don't know if you know how many meaning a simple word may have, based on the usage of that word. In your native tongue, Yoruba Orun, can mean sleep, dead of night, smell, wrinkling, Sun, etc.

Until, you ask the arab muslim the usage of Ruh in that verse, and they agree with you that it means spirit and nt soul, you have lost. Yet you can never have Ruh Qudus, other than Jibril.

                                                                                                The Ruh and the Nafs

As-Suhayili mentioned the dispute among the scholars over whether the Ruh is the same as the Nafs, or something different. He stated that it is light and soft, like air, flowing through the body like water through the veins of a tree. He states that the Ruh which the angel breathes into the fetus is the Nafs, provided that it joins the body and acquires certain qualities because of it, whether good or bad. So then it is either a soul in (complete) rest and satisfaction (89:27) or inclined to evil (12:53), just as water is the life of the tree, then by mixing with it, it produces something else, so that if it mixes with grapes and the grapes are then squeezed, it becomes juice or wine. Then it is no longer called water, except in a metaphorical sense. Thus we should understand the connection between Nafs and Ruh; the Ruh is not called Nafs except when it joins the body and is affected by it. So in conclusion we may say: the Ruh is the origin and essence, and the Nafs consists of the Ruh and its connection to the body. So they are the same in one sense but not in another. This is a good explanation, and Allah knows best. I say: people speak about the essence of the Ruh and its rulings, and many books have been written on this topic. One of the best of those who spoke of this was Al-Hafiz Ibn Mandah in a book which we have heard about the Ruh.
pilgrim.1 (f)
Re: The Important Of Fasting To Muslim
« #227 on: November 19, 2007, 06:16 PM »

@olabowale,

Quote from: olabowale on November 19, 2007, 05:09 PM
@Pilgrim.1: You are very funny. Islam have been firmly established, for over 1400 years. All the Arabs and the Jews already agreed that it is immovable.

For 1400 years, Muhammad's duplicity ruled the lives of the Arabs - because he himself had said that they were the most ignorant of folks in that part of the hemisphere:

   Qur'an 9:97
   The Arabs of the desert are the worst in Unbelief and hypocrisy,
   and most fitted to be in ignorance of the command which God hath
   sent down to His Apostle: But God is All-knowing, All-Wise.

Now, with that kind of weapon and mindset, Muhammad found it easier to lead gullible and ignorant Arabs by the nose as he sold them his pretentious "revelations". . . until the Jews exposed him for the false prophet that he was! Now, I don't think Muhammad considered that "funny", because (as I have said several times), his burning hatred for the Jews followed him to his grave.

Even when Muhammad had attempted several incoherent "prophecies" against the Jews (such as 'Allah' transforming them into apes and pigs), his prophecies were yet a humongous failure - and that failure has trailed the Muslim world for 14 whole centuries!

Haba! Oga olabowale, if Islam has a reputation of dubious gimmicks to the Arabs for 14 centuries, you can imagine how fooled they have been! Fortunately, many of them are coming to realize that they've been gooned, and therefore are finding their way out of the religion of the Quraish prophet.

Quote from: olabowale on November 19, 2007, 05:09 PM
This was while England the country you now live in and educating you, is still in its darkest of dark ages. You from Nigeria, with a flare for controversy, thinks you know Ruh differently from what Muhammad said to the Jews it is.

Hehe-Haw-Haw! Grin  My dear olabowale, let me remind you: Muhammad did NOT know dot about the RUH!! The gentleman was so smart he tried to professionally duck it under one of his numerous "revelations" from 'Allah' - and for all that, he did not give any coherent answer!

Let me remind you of the fact from your own quote:

Quote from: olabowale on November 19, 2007, 02:45 PM
(Say: "The Ruh (the spirit) is one of the things, the knowledge of which is only with my Lord. And of knowledge, you (mankind) have been given only a little.'')

If Muhammad know anything about the Ruh, he would not have claimed that its knowledge was ONLY with 'Allah'. As such, the bloviates of Muslim commentators cannot excuse the fact that 'Allah' never revealed it to Muhammad! They are just trying to fill in the gaps for him - as they did in trying to smuggle him into the Torah and the Injil (and again the Jews exposed him)!  Grin


Quote from: olabowale on November 19, 2007, 05:09 PM
Do you know what Ruh is then? Please help the Jews out, who did not have any responsecontrary to Muhammad's answer to them. They never again tried to ask him any question about Ruh again. They knew, before hand that they would  not like the answer they got and they received exactly what fitted their evil intent. Read my entry and discuss it with your Church leaders. Ask them if they know what Ruh is? Then ask them if they know what Ruh Qudus is?

So typical, olabowale. . . so typical of you. Grin  How many times have I proffered incontrovertible answers and proof of the fact that Muhammad did not know what the Ruh was - and the several Muslim translators have been confusing themselves all the more (as Parwez) on that issue. If Muhammad did not know the Ruh, is it his confused followers that would fill in the gaps and smooth over his inconsistencies?

Quote from: olabowale on November 19, 2007, 05:09 PM
Everyone , who has any understanding of Islam knows that Ruh Qudus is Malaika Jibril. Everyone knows that Ruh in the verse 85 if Isra is SOUL, which makes mankind alive.

So, according to your "new improved®" bloviates up there ↑↑, there are a few things that Muslims are supposed to be slaking their scholarship on? Let see:

According to you:

     Ruh Qudud is Malaika Jibril - but where do you ever refer to Jibril as SOUL (Nafs)?

     Earlier you quoted a reference to say that Nafs ("soul") refers to "the Ruh that is joined to a body" → →
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      The Ruh and the Nafs

      . . . Thus we should understand the connection between Nafs and Ruh; the Ruh is not called Nafs except when it joins the body and is affected by it.

As such, when you said that "Ruh in the verse 85 if Isra is SOUL," have you not openly defeated your argument already when your own Muslim translators render the word Ruh in that verse as SPIRIT?!?

Abeg, olabowale, go think am well. . . because it seems you have run out of gas and now beginning to expose your own inconsistencies. You be Arab?!? Grin
nwando
Re: The Important Of Fasting To Muslim
« #228 on: November 19, 2007, 09:50 PM »

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Quote from: olabowale on Today at 01:45:18 AM
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And for those who had a field day, of laughter: the Qur'an is only in Arabic. Any writing therefor, in another language is only what the writer may think the meaning is. You live in England, and other parts of the the west, eg. You. S., ask annoynemously by your phone calls to Mosques. If I need to know anything in Igbo language, I will ask an Igbo person whose mother tongue is igbo language.

This is the funniest thing about Islam.
This alone should make anyone seeking the truth,run away as fast as possible.
How can allah be all knowing yet he can only understand arabic?
what kind of god is he?

You claim the Koran is only in arabic yet you use English versions to try to convince me when in your own words they are practically useless!
Only allah knows what he and Muhammad meant yet we have little boys in Kano banging their heads and reciting what they don't understand.
Allah I understand is also tonal deaf
He only understands a certain arabic dialect
what a "genius"
poor slaves Cry

My God is omnipresent,hears all tongues,hears even your thoughts and imaginations.
He is not limited by anything
That is the God I serve.
Sometime ago I remeber olabowole telling me there are plans for an Igbo Koran.
How useless!!
Who shall interprete that to poor old allah  when he is yet to understand picthall and shakir in plain English why complicate his already complicated state by putting g and b together in a word.
ojigbi jigbi
nwando
Re: The Important Of Fasting To Muslim
« #229 on: November 19, 2007, 10:29 PM »

http://www.answering-islam.org/Green/seven.htm#compare
http://www.answering-islam.org/Green/seven.htm#history

who says there's not different arabic Korans.
Think again.
which one does allah understand ?
olabowale (m)
Re: The Important Of Fasting To Muslim
« #230 on: November 20, 2007, 10:09 AM »

@Nwando: If you understand and speak Yoruba, I will be writing to you, in Yoruba language, the meaning of Qur'an. Unfortunately, on the other hand, I do not speak and do not understand, Igbo language. It could beeen the language of choice between you and me. You of all people know the difference between a word in one language and what its supposed to mean in another language.

I am bery sure thare are some words in Igbo that has many meanings, depending on its usage, and there will be a thing that could be described by many different words. English is a language that you and me can communicate in and it is one of the few languages that are impacting the world, presently.

Stop being disgenious, because you are trying to win an argument. Regardless of however beautiful a wrapping is, if you have garbage in the gift box, it will stink, at the end. Again, your tunnel vision outlook to the world and to your own soul is showing, by your statement that Allah does not understand any other language than Arabic! Nay, your words are blasphemous, at best. You should restrain from such vile and naive statement. If this is the way you used to cajole innocent Aisha to your religion, she will soon come to realise that she is on a reacherous path.

Nothing will come out of deceit that regret. When I prostrate my face in Salah, I ask whatever I want, in supplication to my Lord, in the language of my mother. Thats Yoruba and Allah hears all things. I am not worshipping a God that has limit in His power. That belongs to the christians. I worship just One God. You worship a threplet God!

My God is never wary and is always full of power. Yours, as you claim, did not know the nature of what he had created. So he had to come and get the experience, just like his creations, before he can make decision and judgements! Thats a very weak god you worship there!

I did not twist the hand of Zainab, your sister, before she accepted Islam. I did not paint a picture of fallacy to her either. God opened her heart. Let the same happen to you. If Jesus, as we read in the Bible, cried something before he gave up the ghost, on the cross and had earlier prayed for that samething to take the cup off his head, I think that you should be worshipping that something instead of Jesus.

You and the rest of christianity will be in the group that Jesus will deny in the day of Judgement. You will be from those who performed miracles by his name and called him Lord, yet he will not help you on that day that is very certain to come. Everyone shall taste death and everyone shall be recreated for the day of Judgement.

As much as I love you, you have a cross to drag, and Alhamdulillah, I have no cross to drag. Cross will benefit you nothing.
olabowale (m)
Re: The Important Of Fasting To Muslim
« #231 on: November 20, 2007, 01:11 PM »

@Nwando: I went to your Khaled's answering islam website. Below is what your beef is? It is not a problem, for any muslim. Even to an unlettered muslim like me. The first thing you should get into your mind, is that Qur'an, is an oral document. You do not have to know how to read letters before you can recite it. A good illustration, is a baby who is a reciter at the age of say, between 4 and 6.

Secondly, there is room for dialect or accent accomodation. For example, an asiatic reciter, from India will say va instead of wa. Yet he sees wa in his Qur'an. The Yorubas and so many of the west african tribes will say sa instead of sha. Yet what they see in the Qur'an is sha. Khaled, through to his sleight of hands gimmick as a magician, is trying to keep you and the likes of you in ignorance, which in the end will lead to hellfire.

He knows, as an arab, that wa, fa, qaf are represented by the same letter. The arabs of macca and madina, during Muhammad (as), the primary audience, did not need the vowel and pronounciation as to enlongate the arabic character to know what it is and what is before or waht is after.

It is the same thing with you, if some one is writing igbo, whether in shor t hand or without the accent, you will not have difficulty to understabd, the word and what word  follows or after it.

I will IshaAllah analyse this difficulty that khalid, the magician has conveniently put forward to continue keep you on the side of the group that will definately fail in the day of judgement. Yes, it is true that you are not a fighetr, but your love is not without condition. For not being a fighter is your gimmick. You carry a big ammonition in your heart and i will not be fooled by your exterior.


There are in fact many more Readers and Transmitters than those listed above. The table below lists the commonly accepted Readers and their transmitted versions and their current area of use.

The Reader The Transmitter Current Area of Use
"The Seven"
Nafi` Warsh  Algeria, Morocco, parts of Tunisia, West Africa and Sudan
Qalun  Libya, Tunisia and parts of Qatar
Ibn Kathir al-Bazzi
Qunbul
Abu `Amr al-'Ala' al-Duri  Parts of Sudan and West Africa
al-Suri
Ibn `Amir Hisham Parts of Yemen
Ibn Dhakwan
Hamzah Khalaf
Khallad
al-Kisa'i al-Duri 
Abu'l-Harith 
Abu Bakr `Asim Hafs  Muslim world in general
Ibn `Ayyash
"The Three"
Abu Ja`far Ibn Wardan
Ibn Jamaz
Ya`qub al-Hashimi Ruways 
Rawh 
Khalaf al-Bazzar Ishaq 
Idris al-Haddad 
Abu Ammaar Yasir Qadhi, An Introduction to the Sciences of the Qur'aan, United Kingdom: Al-Hidaayah, 1999, p. 199. 

What the above means is that the Qur'an has come to us through many transmitted versions. There are more versions than those listed above but they are not considered authentic. The different versions are judged in the same way that Hadiths are judged; some are judged to be weak and some strong. Not all of these versions are printed or used today but several are.

All these facts can be a bit confusing when you first read about it. If you are feeling that way don't worry; it's normal. To make things simple we will now look at two Qur'ans from different parts of the world which are printed according to two different transmissions. We will compare two Qur'ans to see whether or not they are identical as the Muslim quote referred to at the beginning of this article claimed. The Qur'an on the left is the most commonly used Qur'an and is according to the Hafs' transmission. The Qur'an on the right is according to the Warsh' transmission and is mainly used in North Africa.

  When you compare these Qur'ans it becomes obvious that they are not identical. There are three main types of differences between them.

Graphical/Basic letter differences
Diacritical differences
Vowel differences
   

Let us now look at examples of these differences. The following examples are from the same word in the same verse, however, you will notice that on some occasions the verse number differs between the two Qur'ans. This is because the two Qur'ans number their verses differently. Thus surah 2:132 in the Hafs Qur'an is the same verse as surah 2:131 in the Warsh Qur'an.

GRAPHICAL/BASIC LETTER DIFFERENCES - There are differences between the basic printed letters of these two Qur'ans. It was these letters that Uthman standardized in his recension of the Qur'an [1].

THE QUR'AN ACCORDING TO THE TRANSMISSION OF IMAM HAFS THE QUR'AN ACCORDING TO THE TRANSMISSION OF IMAM WARSH

surah 2:132 (wawassaa)
surah 2:131 (wa'awsaa)

surah 91:15 (wa laa yakhaafu) 
surah 91:15 (fa laa yakhaafu)

surah 2:132 (himu) 
surah 2:131 (hiimu) 

surah 3:133 (wasaari'uu)
surah 3:133 (saari'uu)

surah 5:54 (yartadda)
surah 5:56 (yartadid)

The above examples show that there are differences between the basic letters of these two Qur'ans.

DIACRITICAL DIFFERENCES - Arabic uses dots to distinguish between certain letters that are written the same way. For instance the basic symbol  represents five different letters in the Arabic language depending upon where the diacritical dots are placed. For the above example, the five letters with their diacritical dots are as follows:  baa',  taa',  thaa',  nuun,  yaa'. However these dots were a later development of the Arabic script and were not in use when Uthman standardized the text of the Qur'an. Thus the Uthman' Qur'an did not have any dots to record the exact letter and pronunciation. The text could be read in several ways and was in this way ambiguous in places. It served as a guide for the different Readers of the Qur'an, but not as a complete guide because the diacritical dots were not yet in use. The two Qur'ans that we are examining come from two different Readers and so have two different oral traditions. These traditions have their own unique system of where the dots (and vowels) should go. Here we see another difference between these two Qur'ans for they do not have the dots in the same place. We see that for the same word these two Qur'ans have the dots in different positions thus making different letters. (Remember that verse/aya numbering differs between these two Qur'ans.)

THE QUR'AN ACCORDING TO THE TRANSMISSION OF IMAM HAFS THE QUR'AN ACCORDING TO THE TRANSMISSION OF IMAM WARSH

surah 2:140 (taquluna)
surah 2:139 (yaquluna)

surah 3:81 (ataytukum)
surah 3:80 (ataynakum)

surah 2:259 (nunshizuhaa)
surah 2:258 (nunshiruhaa)

From the above examples we can see that there are many dots that are different between these two Qur'ans. The oral traditions are not the same.

VOWEL DIFFERENCES - In the Arabic script of the modern Qur'an the vowels are indicated by small symbols above or below the basic printed letters. Like the diacritical dots, these vowel symbols were a later development in the Arabic script and were not in use when Uthman standardized the text of the Qur'an. Thus the vowels too were not written in the Uthman' Qu'ran. With the vowels we see another difference between these two Qur'ans, for on many occasions they do not have the same vowels used for the same word. Consider the following examples of how the vowels differ between these two Qur'ans.

THE QUR'AN ACCORDING TO THE TRANSMISSION OF IMAM HAFS THE QUR'AN ACCORDING TO THE TRANSMISSION OF IMAM WARSH

surah 2:214 (yaquula)
surah 2:212 (yaquulu)

surah 2:10 (yakdhibuuna)
surah 2:9 (yukadhdhibuuna)

surah 2:184 (ta'aamu miskiinin)
surah 2:183 (ta'aami masakiina)

surah 28:48 (sihraani)
surah 28:48 (saahiraani)

Some Muslims claim that the differences between the diacritical dots and the vowels are not the result of the ambiguity of the Uthman' text but that the "accepted variants" are all part of the revelation of the Qur'an. Thus there is not one way to recite the Qur'an but many ways - many different oral traditions. Other Muslims though disagree with this; they say there is only one way to recite the Qur'an and that the variants come from The Readers [2]. Regardless of the answer to this question the fact remains that there are real differences between these two Qur'ans and that is what we are considering in this article. There are differences in the basic letters, diacritical dots, and vowels. These differences are small, but they do have some effect on the meaning.


Your guy, khaled, who has not seen fit to change his name, to say Paul, is knowingly distorting the Qur'an. Let me give you a good illustration in Yoruba language, so I advice you to ask your Yoruba friend, about the validity of my illustartion.

Shola, sola, , with or without, a dot below the s and or o, still means a name of  a person. Looking at it, from untrained eyes or somebody who is bent or deceit, will proclaim that these are differerent things. No they are the same and Qur'an is an oral document. Afterall, Muhammad, the one who received it from Jibril, did not know how to read or how to write.














combatant
Re: The Important Of Fasting To Muslim
« #232 on: November 20, 2007, 08:17 PM »

@Olabowale


May Allah increases your knowledge and grant you good health

@Nwando (Babyosis), david, pilgrim, cgift, mrpataki etc

Quit this your answering-Islam website that would never offer you light but darkness and accept the truth and religion of Islam just like Jesus did.

The truth is very glaring but will want you to know that you will never be able to deny the fact that you heard and know about Islam before your death.

A word is enough for the wise Cheesy

Have a lovely day.
nwando
Re: The Important Of Fasting To Muslim
« #233 on: November 21, 2007, 04:40 AM »

olabowole,

Your arguments are not new,they are basically useless to me.
As for your Zainab,all she needs is prayers and  5 minutes with a Christian like me and you'll see her hijab fly out the window Grin
I'm sure she must have family members firing prayers on her behalf
Bring her to Nairaland and let her eyes be opened to the fraud before her.

I can understand how a woman could convert to any religion to please her man.
Christ is still knocking at the door of her heart and if she was taught the ways of Christ as a child,it's only a matter of time.
She will not depart from the truth,the seed was sown long ago,it only needs watering.
Mark my words.
nwando
Re: The Important Of Fasting To Muslim
« #234 on: November 21, 2007, 04:45 AM »

Quote from: olabowale on November 20, 2007, 10:09 AM
@Nwando: If you understand and speak Yoruba, I will be writing to you, in Yoruba language, the meaning of Qur'an. Unfortunately, on the other hand, I do not speak and do not understand, Igbo language. It could beeen the language of choice between you and me. You of all people know the difference between a word in one language and what its supposed to mean in another language.

I am bery sure thare are some words in Igbo that has many meanings, depending on its usage, and there will be a thing that could be described by many different words. English is a language that you and me can communicate in and it is one of the few languages that are impacting the world, presently.

Stop being disgenious, because you are trying to win an argument. Regardless of however beautiful a wrapping is, if you have garbage in the gift box, it will stink, at the end. Again, your tunnel vision outlook to the world and to your own soul is showing, by your statement that Allah does not understand any other language than Arabic! Nay, your words are blasphemous, at best. You should restrain from such vile and naive statement. If this is the way you used to cajole innocent Aisha to your religion, she will soon come to realise that she is on a reacherous path.

Nothing will come out of deceit that regret. When I prostrate my face in Salah, I ask whatever I want, in supplication to my Lord, in the language of my mother. Thats Yoruba and Allah hears all things. I am not worshipping a God that has limit in His power. That belongs to the christians. I worship just One God. You worship a threplet God!

My God is never wary and is always full of power. Yours, as you claim, did not know the nature of what he had created. So he had to come and get the experience, just like his creations, before he can make decision and judgements! Thats a very weak god you worship there!

I did not twist the hand of Zainab, your sister, before she accepted Islam. I did not paint a picture of fallacy to her either. God opened her heart. Let the same happen to you. If Jesus, as we read in the Bible, cried something before he gave up the ghost, on the cross and had earlier prayed for that samething to take the cup off his head, I think that you should be worshipping that something instead of Jesus.

You and the rest of christianity will be in the group that Jesus will deny in the day of Judgement. You will be from those who performed miracles by his name and called him Lord, yet he will not help you on that day that is very certain to come. Everyone shall taste death and everyone shall be recreated for the day of Judgement.

As much as I love you, you have a cross to drag, and Alhamdulillah, I have no cross to drag. Cross will benefit you nothing
.

You sound desperate to win.
Don't close the door and lock yourself out.
I don't convert people.
It is the work of the Holy Spirit and if He could convert Saul of Tarsus,a killer of Christians,you ,my friend are a walkover.
Now go enjoy your Zainab,you'll soon be singing "amazing Grace" alongside her
I hope I'll still be on nairaland to give you a big welcome home. Smiley
debosky (m)
Re: The Important Of Fasting To Muslim
« #235 on: November 21, 2007, 04:51 AM »

Quote from: nwando on November 21, 2007, 04:45 AM
You sound desperate to win.
Don't close the door and lock yourself out.
I don't convert people.
It is the work of the Holy Spirit and if He could convert Saul of Tarsus,a killer of Christians,you ,my friend are a walkover.
Now go enjoy your Zainab,you'll soon be singing "amazing Grace" alongside her
I hope I'll still be on nairaland to give you a big welcome home. Smiley

 Grin Grin Grin

that would be a sight to behold!

Why would you take Jesus' word about him denying some people seriously and not believe he is the only Son of God sent to save us?

You can't pick and choose my brother, either you believe or you don't. You get no points for sitting on the fence.
nwando
Re: The Important Of Fasting To Muslim
« #236 on: November 21, 2007, 05:14 AM »

Isn't that the typical Muslim way.
They tell you the Bible is corrupted yet they see Muhammad in the Bible and quote words from the same "corrupted texts" when it suits them.

Na today we start to see Awusa with bow and arrow?
davidylan (m)
Re: The Important Of Fasting To Muslim
« #237 on: November 21, 2007, 05:28 AM »

Quote from: combatant on November 20, 2007, 08:17 PM
Quit this your answering-Islam website that would never offer you light but darkness and accept the truth and religion of Islam just like Jesus did.

Where did "Jesus" accept the "truth" and cult of islam? During one of mohammed's epileptic fits?

Quote from: combatant on November 20, 2007, 08:17 PM
The truth is very glaring but will want you to know that you will never be able to deny the fact that you heard and know about Islam before your death.

Which "truth" is glaring? The truth that allah cannot find his torah and injil? the truth that mohammed had no idea where he would end up after death?
Yeah, the truth is very "glaring".

olabowale (m)
Re: The Important Of Fasting To Muslim
« #238 on: November 21, 2007, 03:50 PM »

@Nwando and davidylan: Here and now. Hear ye, oh my people in Christianity: Your Bible is a watershed from its original. Its like a completely tasteless, liquid that was lemonade, before it encounter its so many dilutions! Though, it has a somewhat cloudy color, but it has lost a great deal of its lemonade taste and its lemony fragrance. Could you sincerely call that lemonade? The answer is no. Can a naive and innocently ignorant fellow takes it as a good quality lemonade? Yes, if all he has ever tasted is always the watered down batch, and never had tasted a good make of the stuff before.

Ojibi jibi, this is for you my friend.
olabowale (m)
Re: The Important Of Fasting To Muslim
« #239 on: November 21, 2007, 04:10 PM »

@Nwando: God's own country? What happened to the country that gave your bloodline its character? where you received, almost all the education you ever have? That belongs to the devil now? Don't sell your people short, my dear! Every land belongs to God Almighty. No one will enter paradise or condemn to hell, because of his or her country or gender. At least these and color of your skin and many others are irrelevant to God. It is your God Consciousness and obedience to His commandments and laws and doing good for His pleasure are the qualities that will matter to God! Don't be naive.

The whole of Igboland is mine to capture, by the will of Allah God the Almighty. He is the Lord of the Igbos and well as the Americans. there is no true discrimination with Him about these two lands. I will make plenty of Igbo men and women, Muslims. You my friend, I can see you prostrating your face now, you and your beau and your children and the rest of the extended family. Allahu akbar kabira, will be beautiful from your lips

Allah, Who gave Muhammad victory over Makkans, without shedding any blood in the conquest, will make Igboland Islamic. It is easy for Him
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