I received a revelation that Dawodu is the original Yoruba name for David instead of Dafidi as transliterated from English-language Bibles. I have recently wondered at the kind of formula used to transliterate Biblical names eg Miriam - Mary - Meri - Moremi, Joshua - Jesus? - Yoshua - Yahushua, Jebus - Jebu and many others. Anyway, below is the proof of Dawodu for David as currently displayed on the wikipedia sites for David and Daud respectively:

David (Hebrew: דָּוִד, דָּוִיד, Modern David Tiberian Dāwîḏ; ISO 259-3 Dawid; Strong's Daveed; beloved; Arabic: داوود‎ or داود‎[note A] Dāwūd)

Daud (Arabic: داوود‎) is a male Arabic given name corresponding to David. The Persian form is Dawood. Other variant spellings in the Latin alphabet include Da'ud, Daut, Daoud, Dawud, Davud, and Davut.

My take is that since many of the people occupying the Levant today may not be the original speakers of the languages therein then they just might not know the actual meanings of the words they use. The name David is an example as it is said to mean beloved - probable guesswork.

I now pose a challenge here on Nairaland.

What is the meaning of Dawodu?
What is the oriki for those bearing Dawodu?
Who will do the honour of editing the wikipedia pages for Dawodu and David accordingly with information gleaned from the answers to the first 2 questions and possibly using this thread as reference?

By the way who Gave you the Revelation? Google or God or Dawodu? Rotflmao #justjoking

my brother @op

dawodu is the muslim form of david.

dafidi is also correct since its a transliteration of the name david.

v is absent in yoruba, i believe. Its pronounced f instead.



you received a revelation?

Jewish people pronounce "David" as "Dafid"

i think the v turns to a w same as with arabic, in the Jewish pronounciation.

or it remains v.

don't you mean Dauda?

tpia@:

i think the v turns to a w same as with arabic, in the Jewish pronounciation.

or it remains v.

It might be "Dafid" since Steven is actually pronounced "Stefen" in Hebrew. But I was also thinking, isn't the name Daoda or Dauda?

all are variations of the name daood or dawood from arabic.

dauda, dawood, daood, dawodu, etc etc.

they all mean david.

odumchi:

It might be "Dafid" since Steven is actually pronounced "Stefen" in Hebrew. But I was also thinking, isn't the name Daoda or Dauda?

steven is the english form of a greek name, from stephen, or stephanos.

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?allowed_in_frame=0&search=stephen&searchmode=nl

In Yoruba, Dafidi is correct. Dafid is not.

I was referring to Hebrew as Voodoo was not Yoruba.

tpia@, are you arguing that Dawodu is meaningless in Yoruba or that Dawodu is an imported name amongst the Yoruba?
Is it not true that the Yoruba meaning has to do with the heir or royal first-born son?
Isn't there a female version of that name - Beere (Funmilayo Ransome-Kuti)?

Dawodu in Yoruba has a meaning and normally refers to the eldest son.

No good online sources other than Wikipedia.

But you can find a reference to Dawodu in this Nigerian Supreme court case.

http://www.nigeria-law.org/Alhaja%20Suara%20Yusuff%20%20v%20%20Mrs%20Yetunde%20Dada%20&%203%20Ors.htm

"being the eldest surviving son is the Dawodu and head of late Chief J. O. Laniyonu family under native law and custom."

Search for the name "Dawodu" in the above link.

Can't we derive the actual meaning by breaking it down into syllables as is done for other names like Opeyemi etc? In my opinion eldest son seems like scratching at the surface. My Yoruba is not yet okay else I would have made some attempts.

VoodooDoll, the link you provided is very educative; thanks. The way the name was addressed as the Dawodu almost made it portrayed as a title. I guess the name is in the same category as Taiye/Taiwo and Kehinde which are regarded by the Yoruba people as names of the bearers as given directly from heaven.

Most Yoruba names are shortened from phrases,

My Yoruba is poor as well but here goes:

Dawodu could be "Eni ti a da wo du, " which I think means the person we first saw a lot of. "Wo" means "to see or look after"

Same way "Eni ti a e wo" : Taiwo

Please learn instead of trying to teach.

I'm not aware of dawodu being used to refer to any eldest son in yorubaland- kindly provide definitive proof so i can stand corrected.

Dawodu is the yoruba muslim name for david.

I hope you're aware there's such a thing as a yoruba muslim name?

I thought you started the thread with david and dafidi. How did it become about an eldest son.

Tpia, pls do not mistake Dauda or Daud for Dawodu, Dawodu is the male 1st born of the family, while Dauda or Daud is muslim name. Beere is d 1st female child.

^^

1. reread the first sentence of the original post. I think you meant to address the op.

2. never heard of dawodu being a title. I'd need some more solid evidence besides wiki and the one link.

3. anyone who is aware of such should please let the rest of us know.

Go and find out the name of Fela Anikulapo-Kuti's parents and if they were muslims. His dad's name was Dawodu and his mother's was Beere - they were called by those names respectively for being the first 2 students of Abeokuta Grammar School. Beere is the female version of Dawodu. Whether you accept it or not is not my problem. The Truth remains the Truth whether or not you agree.

You might want to go through VoodooDoll's link once again:

VoodooDoll:

Dawodu in Yoruba has a meaning and normally refers to the eldest son.

No good online sources other than Wikipedia.

But you can find a reference to Dawodu in this Nigerian Supreme court case.

http://www.nigeria-law.org/Alhaja%20Suara%20Yusuff%20%20v%20%20Mrs%20Yetunde%20Dada%20&%203%20Ors.htm

"being the eldest surviving son is the Dawodu and head of late Chief J. O. Laniyonu family under native law and custom."

Search for the name "Dawodu" in the above link.

PAGAN 9JA, Isn't the Maker/Possessor of heaven and earth the Ruler, and Oduduwa the ancestor?

Ancestor of the Rulers?

That is not the focus of this thread. Rather, can you confirm whether or not Dawodu is a name indigenous to the Yoruba or whether it was imported?

what does salami mean?

Amor4ce,

When you say you received a revelation, I understand what you mean. These other folks are not in the dimension you are talking about.

Anyway, yes, Dawodu is a first born son or heir while Bere is the female equivalent. Yoruba is an ancient Hebrew tongue that is not even spoken today in Middle East. It was the tongue of the original Hebrews - Canaans! In that tongue, Bere means a begining or a start.

Prophet David was the seventh child, not the first, so what could explain the ame David for him if the two cultures share the meaning? David may not have been his birth name. Abraham was given a new name, so was Isaac, Jesus had Imanuel as part of his name. David may be a rename to confer on him a first heirarchy.

You got it!
You posted a comment elsewhere and I took it up as sort of a challenge; I asked the Source for the same page promoter and the divine response I got was the Dawodu-David name. Getting the to the root of the name Dawodu will really help us to understand better the person of Oba Dawodu.

I have wondered if he had the same mother (Edomite?) as his brothers and his name could have been his actual name from birth (naming as seems to be widespread today is quite different from the way it was done back then).

Those in the middle east today say that David means beloved, now I ask myself if the name Dawodu implies that many of them are not the original speakers of the tongues they speak today.

An/The Igbo version is Anochie meaning royal heir.
Do Edo people also bear Dawodu?

Some Edo people, Igarra to be specific, also bear Dawodu according from what I read on the Dawodu facebook page.

Daodu seems to be the proper pronunciation and the meaning is

Ẹni to da Odu lẹ

The One who established/founded/set down/gave us the Odu

or

The One who casts the configuration of the Odu

The translation above can be shortened to Ẹni to da Odu or quite simply as Da Odu without the message therein getting lost to those already familiar with the Yoruba language and customs.

I learned something today. Fab thread, OP.

Amor4ce,

When you say you received a revelation, I understand what you mean. These other folks are not in the dimension you are talking about.

Anyway, yes, Dawodu is a first born son or heir while Bere is the female equivalent. Yoruba is an ancient Hebrew tongue that is not even spoken today in Middle East. It was the tongue of the original Hebrews - Canaans! In that tongue, Bere means a begining or a start.

Prophet David was the seventh child, not the first, so what could explain the ame David for him if the two cultures share the meaning? David may not have been his birth name. Abraham was given a new name, so was Isaac, Jesus had Imanuel as part of his name. David may be a rename to confer on him a first heirarchy.

Negro,

Bros, You're a very interesting guy. lol.

Is the above in line with the word Mogaji or Mogajiya for the title of Olori Ebi? Do you know? Thanks.

Thanks isale_gan2. As for Negro_Ntn's comment about whether or not David was the birth name, I would want to first find out what sort of Odu configuration/signature would have been shown during his Esentaye.