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Rubbermaid (f)
Please Ban Me Before Nairalanders Kill Me With Their Ninglish
« on: September 26, 2007, 03:34 AM »

Dear Seun - Nairaland Moderator,

This is a formal request asking that you ban me [quickly] from your forum. Please do so before the level of English Ninglish used here kills, maims, or adulterates my own command of proper English grammar.  Cry

Following my recent visits,  I have left Nairaland wondering what in heaven's name is happening in Nigerian classrooms? What has happened to those days of yore when you were drilled until you mastered correct usage of English grammar by Primary three?!

For example,  I clicked on the discussion item at the top of the 'hot list' today and almost suffered a fatal blow when the poster started with "Have you ever sit, " I understand occasional 'slip-ups' however, the repeated instances on this forum has lead me to believe that these folks just never learned proper English,  or have not bothered to keep up by reading well written literature or revisiting early lessons from time to time (and as needed).

I am now officially fed-up with Ninglish and would like to turn-in my Nairaland membership before irreparable damage is done. I will now be  moving over to the Nigerian Village Square. Nigerians there seem to have better control of the language. Ironically, they seem to make better sense too.

Respectfully,

Rubbermaid.

PS - English is your friend. Blame those who made it our national language. Peace.




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afrodixie
Re: Please Ban Me Before Nairalanders Kill Me With Their Ninglish
« #1 on: September 26, 2007, 07:14 AM »

Well, please do not take it to heart.  It is the state of the Nigerian educational system.  Education is not a priority for Nigerian "youths and agbayas" since "yahoo" English can catch more mugus around the world!

How is things BTW? Wink
crazykid (m)
Re: Please Ban Me Before Nairalanders Kill Me With Their Ninglish
« #2 on: September 26, 2007, 09:19 PM »

If I was the admin I would have willingly granted you your request
finekid (m)
Re: Please Ban Me Before Nairalanders Kill Me With Their Ninglish
« #3 on: September 27, 2007, 10:04 PM »

@ Rubbermaid,
Ok, I ban you! Just kidding Grin
But I concur that many Nigerians are so not so good in the use of English language. 
Nikkykinky (f)
Re: Please Ban Me Before Nairalanders Kill Me With Their Ninglish
« #4 on: September 28, 2007, 04:01 PM »

Factually, I agree with the poster's request.  I would also suggest that each member post his/her picture for everyone to see.  Even if we do not get to meet one-on-one, we get to place the face to the write-up.  I believe this will bring about some decorum and sanity into the way we write and what things we post for others to read.

This should be an intellectual forum and should be treated as such.  Our discussions and exchange of correspondence/jokes/information/thread should depict who we are.

Please something positive should be done and in good time too.

Thank you.
tollu (f)
Re: Please Ban Me Before Nairalanders Kill Me With Their Ninglish
« #5 on: October 03, 2007, 11:25 PM »

Epele o, eyin oyinbo. what will those of us that doesnt hear english do? she na our fault say we no hear?
do horse one big favor, teach us tutorials. we dey wait you o. Ninglish
Gettolove (m)
Re: Please Ban Me Before Nairalanders Kill Me With Their Ninglish
« #6 on: October 04, 2007, 09:08 AM »

Quote from: tollu on October 03, 2007, 11:25 PM
Epele o, eyin oyinbo. what will those of us that doesnt hear english do? she na our fault say we no hear?
do horse one big favor, teach us tutorials. we dey wait you o. Ninglish

are you still complained about those of you that DOSENT hear english, what of some of us that did not hear at all Grin Grin Grin



I am an NACIRFA.
Grammar no be my language
tollu (f)
Re: Please Ban Me Before Nairalanders Kill Me With Their Ninglish
« #7 on: October 04, 2007, 09:17 PM »

I tire o my brother! Nobody has took me up on the taughting of tutorials.
I dey wait una Tongue
niceuzor
Re: Please Ban Me Before Nairalanders Kill Me With Their Ninglish
« #8 on: October 05, 2007, 09:38 AM »

Hello poster,plz can you be our Nairaland English teacherEmbarrassed
Rubbermaid (f)
Re: Please Ban Me Before Nairalanders Kill Me With Their Ninglish
« #9 on: October 07, 2007, 07:59 PM »

No. I can't teach anybody English - it's not my job. I save my skills for my professional presentations, thesis, and other communications.
Additionally, it looks like those who need to improve their language skills are not bothered enough to take advantage of classroom lessons, or dedicate themselves to self-help solutions.

Ironically, we wonder why so many Nigerian graduates are treated like crap when they apply for jobs.  Prove this, prove that,  line up, take a test, touch the sky, hop like a toad, etc.

Bad English is the reason! If many can graduate from Universities with such poor grammar then of course, all bets will be off in assessing the quality of their credentials.
surugede
Re: Please Ban Me Before Nairalanders Kill Me With Their Ninglish
« #10 on: October 07, 2007, 10:14 PM »

the first time eve had a chance, she blamed the serpent.
Gettolove (m)
Re: Please Ban Me Before Nairalanders Kill Me With Their Ninglish
« #11 on: October 09, 2007, 11:33 AM »

Quote from: Rubbermaid on October 07, 2007, 07:59 PM
No. I can't teach anybody English - it's not my job. I save my skills for my professional presentations, thesis, and other communications.
Additionally, it looks like those who need to improve their language skills are not bothered enough to take advantage of classroom lessons, or dedicate themselves to self-help solutions.

Ironically, we wonder why so many Nigerian graduates are treated like crap when they apply for jobs. Prove this, prove that, line up, take a test, touch the sky, hop like a toad, etc.

Bad English is the reason! If many can graduate from Universities with such poor grammar then of course, all bets will be off in assessing the quality of their credentials.

bros wetin b your own sef, na must make person sabi spik ninglish?
what i think is important is for one to be productive and responsible.
i go beat you if you talk anything again Angry

Very soon we go enforce make una dey speak pidgin english
apocalypse (m)
Re: Please Ban Me Before Nairalanders Kill Me With Their Ninglish
« #12 on: October 10, 2007, 08:52 PM »

If I fire and you dodge I don't care , na the beginning of craze be that.
apocalypse (m)
Re: Please Ban Me Before Nairalanders Kill Me With Their Ninglish
« #13 on: October 10, 2007, 08:58 PM »

I think we are doing pretty well with your own language.I'd like to see an Englishman take a course in yoruba and see whether he'll master the language without killing our beloved language.
Talk am as una fit talk am jare,nobody dey perfect
fuzek
Re: Please Ban Me Before Nairalanders Kill Me With Their Ninglish
« #14 on: November 11, 2007, 12:59 AM »

Quote from: Nikkykinky on September 28, 2007, 04:01 PM
Factually, I agree with the poster's request. I would also suggest that each member post his/her picture for everyone to see. Even if we do not get to meet one-on-one, we get to place the face to the write-up. I believe this will bring about some decorum and sanity into the way we write and what things we post for others to read.


 Shocked I saw d picture on your profile and it helped me place your face in my write-up Tongue
How many faces do u need to have in your mind to help u wit write-ups Huh
BTW how many profiles do u view Huh Undecided
Na wa!
U1 (m)
Re: Please Ban Me Before Nairalanders Kill Me With Their Ninglish
« #15 on: November 11, 2007, 03:28 PM »

Sorry to say this sister,but English is not our mother tongue,so we are not afraid to misuse,adulterate and fabricate words[not an excuse for lazy folks though].Shame should only come in if we are unable to speak the mother tongue.Just my opinion,besides,it's a democracy. Cool Cool
T@meD0 (m)
Re: Please Ban Me Before Nairalanders Kill Me With Their Ninglish
« #16 on: November 12, 2007, 01:07 AM »

Quote from: Rubbermaid on October 07, 2007, 07:59 PM
No. I can't teach anybody English - it's not my job. I save my skills for my professional presentations, thesis, and other communications.
Additionally, it looks like those who need to improve their language skills are not bothered enough to take advantage of classroom lessons, or dedicate themselves to self-help solutions.

Ironically, we wonder why so many Nigerian graduates are treated like crap when they apply for jobs.  Prove this, prove that,  line up, take a test, touch the sky, hop like a toad, etc.

Bad English is the reason! If many can graduate from Universities with such poor grammar then of course, all bets will be off in assessing the quality of their credentials.



E pele o mama Grammarian! "I save my skills for my professional presentations, thesis, and other kumu nene kumu nene."  Just bcus (Yes, I spelled the word "because" incorrectly) na you first manage go school get degree, the tin don enter your head come make am swell.  na (And yes, I started a sentence using a lower-case) people like you go see person for outside and quick to judge them from the way they talk.  I'm not arguing the fact that there are lazy and choose-to-be-ignorant people out there.  Mind you, ignorance comes in all shades of color and amongst all nationalities.

Now, for you to come here and insinuate that people on here are either uneducated or semi-educated is not only insulting but shows how judgmental and a self-righteous a-hole you really are.  I'm sure you're probably one of the few that are quick to say they're ashamed of being Nigerians sometimes. Abeg oga moderator Seun, ban this yeye dey smell jare; na peopu (another incorrect spelling for you to note) like am go dey do like say them no dey shit. 

By the way, how did you know that only Nigerian graduates are treated like crap when they apply for jobs.  What substantiating proof do you have to back up your claim.  Has it ever occurred to you that they could be discriminated against not because of how they speak or by their color? As a black man in this country (USA) you have to be twice as good as the other person to be reckoned with, racism is still everywhere in case you're sill in your little I'm too good fantasy Island.  Have a great day! Peace!

Oh!  lest I forget Ms. Grammarian, the word etc is not grammatically correct when used in ending a sentence o; I is just says I should let you no ma.  Loosen up!  Chikena!
  Grin
ufuoma24 (m)
Re: Please Ban Me Before Nairalanders Kill Me With Their Ninglish
« #17 on: November 12, 2007, 12:54 PM »

Instead of coming up with divurgent excuses and thesis for our inabilities, i suggest we work towards finding a solution to the ridiculous situation that we nigerians now find ourselves in.

True, we are africans but ENGLISH happens to be our lingua franca. perfection is an illusion but we can at least strive to do better in our usage of the language.
DBash (m)
Re: Please Ban Me Before Nairalanders Kill Me With Their Ninglish
« #18 on: November 30, 2007, 11:27 PM »

I have no problem with the good point you raised Mr. Rubbermaid, it's only that you made it look a bit crucifying. You should know that there is no such thing as a perfect Englishman when it comes to the flow & gramma of English language. I also have a problem with you sounding like a reservative by saying that you cannot teach anybody, that you are saving all you know for your presentations, etc.
If you know the law of multiplication, you will know that the more you give the more you get & If you hold on only to your self, the little you have will even begin to vapourate away, no matter how much you try to update yourself through books & attending classes.

What I can say is that "Let there be an openness in everyone that would want to ask any question(s) to always go ahead & do that"
I believe there are enough good fellows here or should I say good Nairalanders who would always respond to such questions without hesitation

I believe we are Brothers & Sisters here!!! One Love!!!
tope_teadr (m)
Re: Please Ban Me Before Nairalanders Kill Me With Their Ninglish
« #19 on: December 01, 2007, 12:32 PM »

Guy's, no one is perfect. We all hv defects in our ways, and GOD didn't make any one perfect.
tope_teadr (m)
Re: Please Ban Me Before Nairalanders Kill Me With Their Ninglish
« #20 on: December 01, 2007, 12:32 PM »

Hey, no one is perfect. We all hv defects in our ways, and GOD didn't make any one perfect.
bgees (m)
Re: Please Ban Me Before Nairalanders Kill Me With Their Ninglish
« #21 on: December 02, 2007, 12:43 AM »

As long we understand these people,then i think there is absolutely no problem.
This sort of point you are making only came up in my primary and secondary school days.but during my time at d univ.we ignored these people who made grammatical errors.my point is that your are being very immature and inconsiderate.if you were educatd in a good way,it doesnt mean its d same for others.
You are not perfect with the english grammar(i am sure)  many english men are not.
Many famous novelist,journalist and reporters make mistakes so who are you?
In school,i learnt so many things about d society and its limited resources,so we all can't have equal opportunities.
Whats our purpose in life?is it not to make a difference?
You talk of nigerian graduates being turned down due to lack of their proficiency with d english language.thats not true to a large extent.i've met bank branch managers,med.doctors and engineers from home and abroad who are on top of their games and who are not very good with english.
If they make a point with their posts,then there is no problem.


If u leave nairaland today,no one would miss you.
souless
Re: Please Ban Me Before Nairalanders Kill Me With Their Ninglish
« #22 on: December 03, 2007, 02:37 PM »

This is a forum for the love of God. As long as people are understood what's all the hoopla about writing correct English, have you gone on any of the sites that are US based? Why don't you go tell them to correct their grammar errors. You people just waste time on things that are totally inconsequential.

sylvex (f)
Re: Please Ban Me Before Nairalanders Kill Me With Their Ninglish
« #23 on: December 03, 2007, 06:48 PM »

Missy/Mister, speaking of grammartical blunders did u check your thread for grammartical errors before posting? The fact that u av a good command of English Lang dosen't make u a good grammarian & neither does it give u the audacity to stick-out your tongue and lash-out at others. if u know or feel u've got the command of the lingua franca why not publish a Dic so others would learn or better still tutor us. Sure, we all know the state of our schools including the tertairy institutions is a major problem affecting our youths because good grammaarians are not empolyed to tutor the students and neither is our govt helping matters.


basically, from your write-up it's pretty obvious u must be an English tutor if not a lecturer.
bgees (m)
Re: Please Ban Me Before Nairalanders Kill Me With Their Ninglish
« #24 on: December 03, 2007, 07:43 PM »

Matter of factly,her post is not correct.there are some grammatical error in your post.
sylvex (f)
Re: Please Ban Me Before Nairalanders Kill Me With Their Ninglish
« #25 on: December 04, 2007, 08:56 AM »

bet, missy/mister grammarian is going to find cool errors (grammartical) in that post, I promise it will not only maim u,  it will castrate u if u are a male or mutilate u if u are a female. Grin Grin Grin
diva_naija
Re: Please Ban Me Before Nairalanders Kill Me With Their Ninglish
« #26 on: December 04, 2007, 09:13 AM »

@ Poster.- So is u can spoke English lik this eh,another manns langag 4 that mata?? plaes tesh me cus me i can'st kno how ta spoke it o,but i uncanstand every Nairalanders bullet Grin.

Why do ya hav ta wait ta be banned anyway Huh You can ban yrself jare n save yrself before ours inglish killed u patapata o.A words is enof 4 hte wiser Grin
ademiife (m)
Re: Please Ban Me Before Nairalanders Kill Me With Their Ninglish
« #27 on: December 04, 2007, 04:43 PM »

rubbermaid,

the fire you set on this thread has become a cataclysmic conflagration!

for me, i found your piece amusing and not offensive; and you made sense too!
i'd assume you know as folks we take things differently, and many folks don't find
criticisms funny.

i subscribe to using good english: hard as we may try some of us will not come to a mastery
of that language. none the less, no one should give up in this effort. but how do we learn
if we don't practise constantly? how do we improve if there's no one willing to teach? do you really think there's one who doesn't want to communicate fluently?

very true that english is our lingua franca, [it's very interesting that the lagos state legislature is seeking to make yoruba the official language in the legislative chamber, according to news report].

instructively, even the mother tongue[s] that many of us clamour for, how many of us
can truly and effectively use it [them]? sometimes, it appears we're living in a borrowed
world of borrowed cultures and philosophies; borrowed world of traditions and technologies.

things are really complicated than some of us trying to make them simplistic. i'll say let's really try hard as much as possible to improve in our use of english, it's a world wide web and others are reading [to benefit] too.

is the roof still on fire? i no fit s[h]out eeh!
OlowoTee (f)
Re: Please Ban Me Before Nairalanders Kill Me With Their Ninglish
« #28 on: December 04, 2007, 05:57 PM »

Quote from: ademiife on December 04, 2007, 04:43 PM
rubbermaid,

the fire you set on this thread has become a cataclysmic conflagration!

for me, i found your piece amusing and not offensive; and you made sense too!
i'd assume you know as folks we take things differently, and many folks don't find
criticisms funny.

i subscribe to using good english: hard as we may try some of us will not come to a mastery
of that language. none the less, no one should give up in this effort. but how do we learn
if we don't practise constantly? how do we improve if there's no one willing to teach? do you really think there's one who doesn't want to communicate fluently?

very true that english is our lingua franca, [it's very interesting that the lagos state legislature is seeking to make yoruba the official language in the legislative chamber, according to news report].

instructively, even the mother tongue[s] that many of us clamour for, how many of us
can truly and effectively use it [them]? sometimes, it appears we're living in a borrowed
world of borrowed cultures and philosophies; borrowed world of traditions and technologies.

things are really complicated than some of us trying to make them simplistic. i'll say let's really try hard as much as possible to improve in our use of english, it's a world wide web and others are reading [to benefit] too.

is the roof still on fire? i no fit s[h]out eeh!

this your ninglish, na wa o. i fear o. I beg which one be "cataclysmic conflagration"  Grin .

I no fit laugh too.  Grin
diva_naija
Re: Please Ban Me Before Nairalanders Kill Me With Their Ninglish
« #29 on: December 04, 2007, 06:02 PM »

Quote from: OlowoTee on December 04, 2007, 05:57 PM
this your ninglish, na wa o. i fear o. I beg which one be "cataclysmic conflagration" Grin .
I no fit laugh too. Grin

He's got ta impress the Rubbermaid  Grin  Grin   Grin i canst raed read his inglish sef  Grin too muchy grammer  Grin  Grin   Grin
OlowoTee (f)
Re: Please Ban Me Before Nairalanders Kill Me With Their Ninglish
« #30 on: December 04, 2007, 06:11 PM »

the vocabularies in his post tire me oooooo. . . Grin

Rubbermaid just got to be impressed by fire by force. . . . just kidding


@Rubbermaid
Please, don't leave us Nairalanders , we are still brethren. Wink . . .Don't let ningrish seperate us!  Kiss
pmdaboh (f)
Re: Please Ban Me Before Nairalanders Kill Me With Their Ninglish
« #31 on: December 04, 2007, 07:08 PM »

I am an African American woman married to a Nigerian man, and prayerfully he will soon join me.  When I first came on Nairaland and read the way many Nigerians were writing and expressing themselves, I really thought it was another language (broken down).  Until I read what Rubbermaid wrote today, I had no idea that was suppose to be English.

I agree with Rubbermaid that many Nigerians need to improve their written language, but I think "refusing to participate any further on Nairaland because of it" is pompous--to say the least.  Perhaps if Rubbermaid wrote consistently in correct grammar, then others will see the need for improvement and know how to correct their errors.

Being an educator, Business Education Teacher and Department Head of Technology, I admire the written and spoken word.  Being able to present yourself in a professional manner is of the utmost importance when applying for various positions, for you not only represent yourself, but you are also representing that company or organization.  However, I believe Rubbermaid was very harsh in the way she addressed the issue. 

My husband is Ijaw, and I am learning to speak and write in Ijaw.  As Americans, we should not think the "world is English, and if anyone wants to communicate with us, they better learn English".  I love learning Ijaw, and I know one Yoruba word (o da ro/goodnight).  I was VERY IMPRESSED with how many languages Nigerians know how to speak. We Americans learn English (by birth) and other languages that are incorpoated in our school curriculum.  But because we do not use those other languages learned in school on a regular basis (French, Spanish, Chinese, German and others), we lose the ability to speak them.  Yet Lagos, Nigeria, who has so many rich cultures dwelling together, is full of diverse languages.  This was one thing I LOVED about Lagos, Nigeria when I was there for two weeks.  I GREATLY ADMIRE the way Nigerians can speak in several languages, and it has birthed a desire in me to learn more languages too.

Yes, many Nigerians need to learn to write and punctuate English correctly, but "WE ALL NEED IMPROVING" in something in life.  No one is an exception to that--not even Rubbermaid.

Patricia

Be tuwapereh (tuwapereh/blessed in Ijaw)!
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