ekt_bear:

Regarding Northern Yoruba, from reading the Willinks report they weren't really unhappy with the North. They were able to get a lot of those civil service jobs since they were better educated than your typical northerner.

Anyway, I'm not too obsessed with them these days. If they prefer the North, so be it.

i know a wealthy Kwara Yoruba family which got their start from a business loan given to them by the govt of Ahmadu Bello. the loan was actually a grant becos they never paid back. a lot of Yorubas got scholarships too.

To the rude ones among you, it is SIR Ahmadu Bello.  The observation that the Igbos are the type of people whose desire more or less to dominate people isw spot on. The said desire is pathological and we can observe the phenomenon right here on NL.  I mean, observe how Onlytruth portays this trait day in day out. BTW the said desire is not necessarily a bad thing.

ndu_chucks:

To the rude ones among you, it is SIR Ahmadu Bello.  The observation that the Igbos are the type of people whose desire more or less to dominate people isw spot on. The said desire is pathological and we can observe the phenomenon right here on NL.  I mean, observe how Onlytruth portays this trait day in day out. BTW the said desire is not necessarily a bad thing.

My friend why are you always committing logic jumps? How did you jump from me wanting Igbo to copy your great Northern leader "Sir" Ahmadu Bello on the singular issue of military, to domination in ALL (per your devious import) things in Nigeria? Anyway, at least you agree that dominating the lowest ranks in the military is not a bad thing. That is honest enough coming from you.

lagcity:

i think it is becos Igbos don't know how to be successful and modest. i have come to understand that Igbos aren't trying to be rude when loud, they just don't know any other way.

The guy claimed domination of the civil service.
why are u trying to make excuses for the guy ?

One of Nigerias founding fathers,  
I am sure Awo would never make such statements.
but who knows what he thought.
And who knows what other non-igbos think

lagcity , you must be joking.

Even when you talk of business, how many kwara people in corporate business now. this is base on the backward and injustice they got from northerners , it affected them so bad.

Dominance is in human nature, growth is in human nature, why should the Igbo man be criticised for working towards making himself better.

Does working hard turn out to be greed?


I think the only place I might be negative is in going to a persons house to dominate him/her.  However, with the entity called Nigeria giving every man or woman of the country equal right to exist anywhere and make a living, then the Igbo man has the right to seek growth(in the tribal sense domination).

RoadStar:

The guy claimed domination of the civil service.
why are u trying to make excuses for the guy ?

One of Nigerias founding fathers,  
I am sure Awo would never make such statements.
but who knows what he thought.
And who knows what other non-igbos think

i am talking abt why ppl single out Igbos. is it because they have very prominent tribal marks or because they tend to be very loud when successful? you don't have to answer that .

RoadStar:

The guys had an inner hate for Igbos.
Igbos were the only ones he refered to by Name.
The rest of Nigeria he refered to by their regions.
He did not say Hausa, Yoruba, Fulani.
When he said "other Nigerians", I understood that to mean "non-Igbo"

That this is coming to light at Ojukwus death
And I was one of those who criticized Ojukwu

And to know that Ahmadu Bello is a Hero and role model to Millions of Nigerians
Igbos are really in trouble.
Na everyday my eyes dey open  

Believe me a lot of Igbos don't understand what Ojukwu did for us. I am glad that all these are coming out after his death because if he were still alive, they won't come out.

Ojukwu was the only visionary from the East who acted appropriately on his vision. Others may have had the same vision but they never got the opportunity to act out on them, while others (like Nzeogwu) acted the wrong way.

If Only Zik was like Ojukwu.  

musiwa,,.:

lagcity , you must be joking.

Even when you talk of business, how many kwara people in corporate business now. this is base on the backward and injustice they got from northerners , it affected them so bad.

abeg go and sit down somewhere. u r not making sense . show me a map of Yoruba Northerners selling Akara while other Northerners are going to universities.

Onlytruth:

Seconded at bolded, but I have more to say.

I have a lot of respect for Ahmadu Bello because he truly understood HOW to get what he wanted in or out of Nigeria. He had a great perception of the FACTS of Nigeria. He never deceived himself for one day.

I still marvel at how only he understood the importance of dominating the lowest rank infantry of the Nigerian army. I'm truly shocked and bewildered that other Nigerians, especially my Eastern Nigerian folks who dominated the officer corp of the army then didn't see the need to at least co-dominate the lowest ranks as well.

From the East, there are always truck pushers, illiterates, motor park touts, thieves, and all types of never do wells who should have been pushed into the army, but somehow this didn't happen.
Dominating the officer corp without dominating the lowest ranks is very dangerous, and we paid dearly for this during the crisis of 1966.

So, I will always respect this man no matter what.

Ahmadu Bello was not responsible for that. He never really accepted the British Army because of the defeat of the Caliphate in 1903. The British realised that and pushed their agenda initially through Balewa and later, through Ribadu. The Federal Defence Council in 1957 made a series of questionable decisions, the challenge of which by Awo, would cost Awo not only the position of PM but a seat in jail.

Firstly, the FDC implemented a quota system for the Rank and File of the Army which gave 50% to the North, 25% to the East and 25% to the West which was later revised to 21% for the West and 4% for mid-west after mid-west was created.

Secondly, the FDC decided to stop sending nigerian cadets to Teshie, Ghana and decided to form the Nigerian Military Training School in Kaduna

Thirdly, entry requirements to officer corps were reduced to allow the North catch up with the East and West. Northern policticians then started drafting Northern students from secondary schools such as Barewa college Zaria. The first Northern officers all went to Barewa college. Gowon, as a young officer and former student, was usually sent to Barewa college as part of the recruitment drive. These drives recruited individuals such as Buhari and Murtala Mohammed.

Lastly, the British Government had a secret Defence agreement in exchange for an airbase in Kano to support Middle East operations. Awo blew the whistle on this arrangement which was abrogated by Balewa after a series of events.

It is worthy to note that the West did not complete its 20% quota because Yoruba Muslims were denied entry to the Army for obvious reasons The Hausa-Fulani equally shunned the Army (perhaps for similar reasons as Bello). That was why the Norths 50% quota was met by the middle belt and the Kanuri.

One more point; the first commissioned officers by year of entry were Bassey, Ugboma, Ironsi, Ademulegun, Shodeinde, Maimalari, Lawan, Ogundipe, and Adebayo. However, the first of these to attend Sandhurst were Maimalari and Lawan. When British General Foster's tenure as GOC ended in 1962, there was a clamour for the indeginisation of the Army to be complete with the appointment of a Nigerian GOC. Ironsi and Ademulegun were the most senior officers but were overlooked in favour of another British officer, Welby-Everard. Ribadu stated that after Welby-Everard's tenure in 1965, a Nigerian would be selected. By 1965, Maimalari had earned enough promotions to overtake Shodeinde and be in contention with Ironsi, Ademulegun, and Ogundipe as the first Nigerian GOC. However, Welby-Everard felt Maimalari was still too junior to be GOC in his recommendation.

Katsumoto  stop telling lies on the internet.  The north was the first to join the army. so there was no catching up to do. The issue is the north hog alot. Ahmadu Bello has a tip top that says , I am first a northerner before a nigerian. he has his reason. 90% of nigeria feel this way too.  So you may blame Ahmadu Bello, what about the other nigerian.this is how they too feel.

discrimination is an open thing in Nigeria,    It is out of discrimination that some people in the north feel that after Jonathan , they should come to power. how possible. when the North had power with Umaru yar adua for 3 years. Jonathan an easterner is having power. any logical person will tell you. that the west is the next to have power.

^^ Becomerrich, most people on NL know that you are hilarious but if I had to chose between whose account to believe on this issue, the answer is as clear as K is different from M!

Katsumoto:

Ahmadu Bello was not responsible for that. [/b]He never really accepted the British Army because of the defeat of the Caliphate in 1903. [b]The British realised that and pushed their agenda initially through Balewa and later, through Ribadu. The Federal Defence Council in 1957 made a series of questionable decisions, the challenge of which by Awo, would cost Awo not only the position of PM but a seat in jail.

Firstly, the FDC implemented a quota system for the Rank and File of the Army which gave 50% to the North, 25% to the East and 25% to the West which was later revised to 21% for the West and 4% for mid-west after mid-west was created.

Secondly, the FDC decided to stop sending nigerian cadets to Teshie, Ghana and decided to form the Nigerian Military Training School in Kaduna

Thirdly, entry requirements to officer corps were reduced to allow the North catch up with the East and West. Northern policticians then started drafting Northern students from secondary schools such as Barewa college Zaria. The first Northern officers all went to Barewa college. Gowon, as a young officer and former student, was usually sent to Barewa college as part of the recruitment drive. These drives recruited individuals such as Buhari and Murtala Mohammed.

Lastly, the British Government had a secret Defence agreement in exchange for an airbase in Kano to support Middle East operations. Awo blew the whistle on this arrangement which was abrogated by Balewa after a series of events.

It is worthy to note that the West did not complete its 20% quota because Yoruba Muslims were denied entry to the Army for obvious reasons The Hausa-Fulani equally shunned the Army (perhaps for similar reasons as Bello). That was why the Norths 50% quota was met by the middle belt and the Kanuri.

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I doubt that Ribadu was that interested in giving undue advantage to the North in the military.
Of course you are right about the role of the British who set the stage,  but the political arrangement which introduced the obnoxious quota system which gave undue advantage to the North should have been resisted by Zik and Awo. Sir Ahmadu Bello emerged the leader of NPC in 1954, so Tafawa Balewa and Muhammadu Ribadu were his sidekicks effectively. It is like saying the Zik has no say in what NCNC vice presidents did.

The Sarduana may have hated the British military, but he very much accepted it if the North dominated it as planned by Balewa. Moreover a lot of Northern military officers owed their careers directly to the Sarduana.

It was Ribadu that recommended Major-General JTU Aguiyi-Ironsi to become the first GOC of the Nigerian Army in 1965.  This is what K.O Mbadiwe said about Ribadu:

“Ribadu had an unshakable belief in the unity of this country…Never before had the cause of Nigerian Unity been so shaken as during that crisis…Tribalism and separatism featured in their worst form…Despite all the rumours, gossips, undercurrents and evil machinations, Ribadu came out in that heat to recommend to the prime minister the appointment of Aguiyi-Ironsi as the Officer Commanding the Nigerian Army…” (HR Deb, May 4, 1965, col. 1923)

Ironsi was not the NPC candidate. Ademulegun was. Sarduana was furious initially, but had to pipe down in the interest of the NPC/NCNC alliance.

I have said it at several fora that the foundation for the rotten country we are in was laid by the so called founding fathers. None of them deserve to be honoured.

We must as youths build a new Nigeria if we care.

I cannot accept ZIk standard as an Igbo man. I can't accept Ojukwu either. Of course, I can stand the positions of Awo and Saduana both singled me out as Igbo for mis-treatment. that is the truth.

We must outgrow them; our ideas must go beyond their myopic stunt.e.

If truly we are as progressives as youths should be. If truly we are true Christians and Muslims, we must as youths, decide here and now, to be better people.

We must decide to build a Nigeria that is different that what was passed over to us.

We should all come out of our stupid ethnic enclave a embrace a new world and a better future. We should build a new Africa that can stand up to the world and clean up tears of our land.

All have sinned. All tribes in Nigeria have sinned and must repent. PERIOD.

With due respect to all progressives, I am still pleading that we should sit down and negotiate Nigeria.

Nigeria has never been negotiated. The likes of Zik were thinking that wishing away the reality of the complexity of our existence as one country will eventually make Nigeria one.

We are facing the crises of the failure of Zik and his friends to give us an enduring legacy. Yes, he can be the Zik of Africa, but he left his people between the devil and the deep blue sea. I am not interested in Admadu Bello and Awo, they can be hero's of their people, after all their people are well positioned to rule (or is it to ruin Nigeria).

Zik left his people as sheep lined up for slaughter. The slaughtering of our people has never abaited. It will never stop unless we put a stop to it.

I am concerned about the legacy I will leave for my kids. Will I tell them never to live anywhere outside the Southern Eastern states? Will I tell them that all Nigerians are equal but some are more equal than others? Will i tell them to always be ready to be slaughtered if for example America invades Iran?

I want a free country for my children and if that freedom cannot be found in Nigeria, then Biafra is an option.

Yes, the Biafra wound has healed, but the scar is fresh. We are reminded at every turn that we are Biafrans and not Nigerians. It seems the war is still on. It is not news anymore for everyday we hear of how shops, houses and things belonging to my people are burnt. Our people are killed on daily bases with knives used in killing cows.

Am I angry? Yes. Am I upset, Yes?

So do I want 'one" Nigeria? Yes, but that one Nigeria must be a place where my right to exist must be not be trampled upon. I want to leave a good legacy for my children. The clock is ticking for Nigeria.
Let us call a spade a spade: Who is the aggressor? Why do we have this violence every time in the north? What is the source? Can it be stopped? If yes, how?

The Ahmadu Bello rant about Igbo "domination" is simpley an act of jealous on a people who are industrious.

Let no one make any mistake about this: we shall continue this backward journey forever.

Finaly, let me ask this:
Biafra was stopped, so what is the advantage? So that the aggresors will still have "animals" to practice their slaughtering trade on? Whatis the gain of One Nigeria? Our values are different, our visions are miles apart. Why ae we decieving ourselves?

Onlytruth:

I doubt that Ribadu was that interested in giving undue advantage to the North in the military.
Of course you are right about the role of the British who set the stage,  but the political arrangement which introduced the obnoxious quota system which gave undue advantage to the North should have been resisted b[b][/b]y Zik and Awo. Sir Ahmadu Bello emerged the leader of NPC in 1954, so Tafawa Balewa and Muhammadu Ribadu were his sidekicks effectively. It is like saying the Zik has no say in what NCNC vice presidents did.

The Sarduana may have hated the British military, but he very much accepted it if the North dominated it as planned by Balewa. Moreover a lot of Northern military officers owed their careers directly to the Sarduana.

It was Ribadu that recommended Major-General JTU Aguiyi-Ironsi to become the first GOC of the Nigerian Army in 1965.  This is what K.O Mbadiwe said about Ribadu:

“Ribadu had an unshakable belief in the unity of this country…Never before had the cause of Nigerian Unity been so shaken as during that crisis…Tribalism and separatism featured in their worst form…Despite all the rumours, gossips, undercurrents and evil machinations, Ribadu came out in that heat to recommend to the prime minister the appointment of Aguiyi-Ironsi as the Officer Commanding the Nigerian Army…” (HR Deb, May 4, 1965, col. 1923)

Ironsi was not the NPC candidate. Ademulegun was. Sarduana was furious initially, but had to pipe down in the interest of the NPC/NCNC alliance.

Firstly, Awo was against having a Nigerian Army and resisted the creation of the Nigerian Navy and Airforce. He proposed a police unit to deal with rebellion in the country and a National Frontier Force. Both would have had specific mandates and would have been considerably smaller than the Nigerian Army. He believed each region should have its own military but of course, the British saw the reasoning behind his ideas and pushed against it. It was Zik who appeared to be a bystander, accepting all that was proposed by the British which gave advantage to the North. This was done because Bello and other Northerners did not really believe in the concept of Nigeria, Awo didn't either but the British didn't trust him with power.

There is some ambiguity in your statement with regards to the selection of the GOC. Why would Bello kick against Ironsi if he was nominated by Ribadu, his own lieutenant, instead piping down in the interest of NPC/NCNC alliance? What you meant to say was that the NCNC demanded Ironsi even though the out-going GOC recommended Ogundipe and the NPC wanted Ademulegun/Maimalari.

Katsumoto:

Ahmadu Bello was not responsible for that. He never really accepted the British Army because of the defeat of the Caliphate in 1903. The British realised that and pushed their agenda initially through Balewa and later, through Ribadu. The Federal Defence Council in 1957 made a series of questionable decisions, the challenge of which by Awo, would cost Awo not only the position of PM but a seat in jail.

Firstly, the FDC implemented a quota system for the Rank and File of the Army which gave 50% to the North, 25% to the East and 25% to the West which was later revised to 21% for the West and 4% for mid-west after mid-west was created.

Secondly, the FDC decided to stop sending nigerian cadets to Teshie, Ghana and decided to form the Nigerian Military Training School in Kaduna

Thirdly, entry requirements to officer corps were reduced to allow the North catch up with the East and West. Northern policticians then started drafting Northern students from secondary schools such as Barewa college Zaria. The first Northern officers all went to Barewa college. Gowon, as a young officer and former student, was usually sent to Barewa college as part of the recruitment drive. These drives recruited individuals such as Buhari and Murtala Mohammed.

Lastly, the British Government had a secret Defence agreement in exchange for an airbase in Kano to support Middle East operations. Awo blew the whistle on this arrangement which was abrogated by Balewa after a series of events.

It is worthy to note that the West did not complete its 20% quota because [size=15pt]Yoruba Muslims were denied entry to the Army for obvious reasons[/size] The Hausa-Fulani equally shunned the Army (perhaps for similar reasons as Bello). That was why the Norths 50% quota was met by the middle belt and the Kanuri.

One more point; the first commissioned officers by year of entry were Bassey, Ugboma, Ironsi, Ademulegun, Shodeinde, Maimalari, Lawan, Ogundipe, and Adebayo. However, the first of these to attend Sandhurst were Maimalari and Lawan. When British General Foster's tenure as GOC ended in 1962, there was a clamour for the indeginisation of the Army to be complete with the appointment of a Nigerian GOC. Ironsi and Ademulegun were the most senior officers but were overlooked in favour of another British officer, Welby-Everard. Ribadu stated that after Welby-Everard's tenure in 1965, a Nigerian would be selected. By 1965, Maimalari had earned enough promotions to overtake Shodeinde and be in contention with Ironsi, Ademulegun, and Ogundipe as the first Nigerian GOC. However, Welby-Everard felt Maimalari was still too junior to be GOC in his recommendation.

Mind shedding more light on the reason?

what is wrong that he said? it is a known fact that ibos try to monopolise, even some ibos will admit it, just look 419, drug trafficking, prostiution, human trafficking, one ethnic group has a monopoly, sarduna is not being a tribalist but a realist

ikembas death is going to open a lot of things that's how you no great men

@ Katsumoto.

Your posts are very interesting. Would you and (fellow historians like you) mind opening a reference thread where people can read up on Nigeria's pre and near independence history?

ndu_chucks:

To the rude ones among you, it is SIR Ahmadu Bello.  T[b]he observation that the Igbos are the type of people whose desire more or less to dominate people isw spot on.[/b] [s]The said desire is pathological and we can observe the phenomenon right here on NL.[/s]  I mean, observe how Onlytruth portays this trait day in day out. BTW the said desire is not necessarily a bad thing.

namfav:

what is wrong that he said?[s] it is a known fact that ibos try to monopolise, even some ibos will admit it, just look 419, drug trafficking, prostiution, human trafficking[/s], one ethnic group has a monopoly, sarduna is not being a tribalist but a realist

Guys, if u use a bit more of gray matter, you will understand that man is a domineering animal. You have to conquer or be conquered in life. This is the fundamental reason why Igbos were able to rise from the ashes of the civil war to where they are today.

The last time I checked, your Sarduana's north and your people aren't quite anything to write home about economically and academically - two of the most important areas of human development index.

Akanbi_edu:

Mind shedding more light on the reason?

Let me quote a thesis I read to illustrate the point

"Islam’s resistance to western education and its associated provision of the bases of legitimacy for Fulani authority in Hausaland was another criterion that favored its adherents as opposed to adherents of indigenous African religions or even converts to Christianity for recruitment into the colonial military forces. That explains the determination of the British to Islamize the rest of the nationalities that inhabited the upper Niger through colonial education. [b]This assertion raises the question of why the Yoruba Muslims failed to meet the bill for recruitment into colonial military forces. By no means are we saying that adherence to or association with Islam was all that it took for members of a nationality in the Niger basin to qualify for recruitment into the military forces of the supra-national state during colonialism. There are some socio-political
factors that account for why Yoruba Muslims were deemed unsuitable for the military forces at the time. The version of Islam that the British deemed unthreatening to their imperial design in the Niger basin was noticeably conservative in content and approach,
which was why it provided the bases of legitimacy for Fulani authority in the Caliphate society. Islam’s conservative traits produced the situation in which “the cult of the Muslim led to support for men and institutions that were despotic and corrupt” (Gutteridge 1970: 304). There were still versions of the faith that posed threats to both Fulani authority and colonial rule in Hausaland (Adeleye 1972). As soon as it was introduced in Yorubaland Islam was quickly reconditioned by the indigenous ‘norms’, ‘forms’ and ‘practice’ of authority. Yoruba Muslims never looked to the Fulani for guidance in the practice of their faith. A people who adhere strongly to norms that support Participation and Responsiveness in the practice of authority could not be found suitable for recruitment into military forces meant for enforcing Compliance to regimented Directiveness that emanate from an autocratic system of governance.[/b]

THE ROOTS OF POLITICAL INSTABILITY AMONGST INDIGENOUS NATIONALITIES AND IN THE ‘NIGERIAN’ SUPRA-NATIONAL STATE, 1884-
1990: A LONGITUDINAL AND COMPARATIVE HISTORICAL STUDY by E. Ejiogu

VoodooDoll:

@ Katsumoto.

Your posts are very interesting. Would you and (fellow historians like you) mind opening a reference thread where people can read up on Nigeria's pre and near independence history?

That's not a bad idea but it takes some preparation. I will start putting some material together and will start a thread when I am ready and have the time. Thanks

Ojukwu's death is really opening a lot of things about Nigeria!

Example:

The economic and political conditions that gave birth to the ideals encapsulated in the ethos of the struggle for the liberation of the Biafra Republic are still prevalent in the country, the death of Chief Chukwuemeka Odumegwu-Ojukwu, the propounder of the Biafran idealism, notwithstanding.

The patriarch of the Aladura Communion and founder of the National Action Council (NAC), Dr Olapade Agoro, stated this while reacting to the demise of Chief Odumegwu-Ojukwu in Ibadan, on Tuesday.

Dr Agoro said the current poor socio-economic condition of most Nigerians and the “horror living” in the country made the realisation of the Biafran idealism a necessity so as to rescue the nation from the path of self-annihilation it is treading. (Ojukwu’s Biafran idealism still imperative in Nigeria - Agoro/ Tribue/Wednesday, 07 December 2011)

“Not many of us saw Odumegwu-Ojukwu as anything better than a devil, one loathed to be seen and associated with then, when he declared his Biafra secession bid out of Nigeria in 1967. He was hated and derided as evil by almost all living Nigerians for leading Nigeria to war then.

“Unfortunately, however, is the fact that death often gives people the unusual opportunity of opening up the library of knowledge to know and appreciate the real life worth of the dead.

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Katsumoto, you are a liar , britain never kick against region army. The people of Nigeria agreed to region army. It was Gowon who made a U turn. After he agreed.

Katsumoto I know you are a northerner but you dont have a tell lies o make a point.


The Yoruba who were wrong classified as north, suffered so much.

They were denied loan from northern banks , unlike the other yorubas which had access to national bank and wema bank then.

They were denied access to agriculture loan and agric related. because they could not be classified as northerners . Northerners know themself.

I have a friend who had to make false claim as a northerner from kwara or kogi state and change his name to get into ABU. So I know what they went through.

Even they find it hard in the army too , because they cant be classified.

Imagine Bukola saying he want to be president. remember what Northerners did to him. They quickly unclassified him as not correct Northerner, na fake northerner and pick their own children. Papa know him pinkin. Na pinkin no know him papa. Only a fool will continue to live in dream land.

I think Good classification is important.

I will say one thing, my igbo friend make una no vex, Ahmadu Bello also said some truth in that statement. Igbo dont employ anybody except their own. 95% of igbo business only have igbo employee even in lagos. even at alaba market.

it is not a good thing. that statement about igbo people was correct. It is something the igbo people need to change. That how other nigerian feels about igbo people nd they need to change,

but when people act against ibos coming elsewhere to do all kinds of bad things it is bad? no deal doing business with each other, but never shall the north be administered by ibos, as the british try to be allowed, the same way that no northerner will administer in the east, nothing wrong with that

dem_people:


Guys, if u use a bit more of gray matter, you will understand that man is a domineering animal. You have to conquer or be conquered in life. This is the fundamental reason why Igbos were able to rise from the ashes of the civil war to where they are today.

The last time I checked, your Sarduana's north and your people aren't quite anything to write home about economically and academically - two of the most important areas of human development index.

namfav:

but when people act against ibos coming elsewhere to do all kinds of bad things it is bad? no deal doing business with each other, but never shall the north be administered by ibos, as the british try to be allowed, the same way that no northerner will administer in the east, nothing wrong with that

Namfav chill out. You're getting a bit sentimental and emotional about these things. Maybe my memory is failing me here but please remind me a time when Ndigbo wanted to rule the North with or without British influence and help? As far as I'm concerned, Ndigbo have no political interests in the north neither do northerners have in the east.

But if we both feel this way, why is it hard for you to understand that we're better-off going our separate ways?

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dem_people:

But if we both feel this way, why is it hard for you to understand that we're better-off going our separate ways?

I honestly believe that you are in a self destructive denial. The only thing keeping you people from annihilating each other is one Nigeria. The East is not big enough for Ibgos who will return home if the country splits up. Truth is bitter but you must deal with it. olodo

ndu_chucks:

I honestly believe that you are in a self destructive denial. The only thing keeping you people from annihilating each other is one Nigeria. The East is not big enough for Ibgos who will return home if the country splits up. Truth is bitter but you must deal with it. olodo

Megida, I'm still trying to understand this your illogic argument and its weird algorithm.
Lets assume for a second that you are right about your "The East is not big enough. . blah blah" line, how many of us must die in your North before we should head East  to manage whatever "little" land we may have there IN LIFE? 
Have you ever heard of the Igbo adage "Ndu ka aku"? 

Nna, please be honest for once!