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Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part2 by SirP1: 10:02pm On Jan 02, 2012
Ill suggest you transfer the funds into your account, its much easier
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part2 by ooosamede2: 10:13pm On Jan 02, 2012
Please give advice on this!!
I have been given an offer for Msc in Uk, Can I use my Local Government as my sponsor, or they should pay the money into my account
If I can use my Local Government as my sponsor what are the documents I need to submit to the embassy along with my application
Sir P!:

Ill suggest you transfer the funds into your account, its much easier
I spoke to one PS in the local Government Secretariat, He said they don't give statement only letter stating that they are sponsoring me till the end of my course
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part2 by ricardo12: 12:29am On Jan 03, 2012
I am new to this forum but my question is in line with the Tier 1 post study work permit.


thank you for your request for an administrative review regarding our decision to refuse your application as a Tier 1 Post Study Worker in the UK. I have duly considered your grounds for appeal but am satisfied the decision to refuse your application was correct.

You state in your grounds that you have submitted evidence of funds up to and including 26 August but this is not the case. Your most recent account only covers the period to 15 March 2011. You suggest the entry clearance officer should have contacted the bank to confirm the current balance but this is outside their remit and the bank would not have been able to provide the relevant information due to data protection issues. The onus is on the applicant to provide sufficient evidence to support their application and you have quite clearly failed to do that on two occassions. I have therefore upheld the decision.

You are entitled to re-apply at any time.

I have more than the required amount in my UK account but I relied on them to verify from my bank and they mentioned data protection. Moreover, the last sentence confused me the more. Can I really reapply even though it is over one year ago that my certificate was issued to me. I need your advice before they CHOP my money
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part2 by justwise(m): 1:58am On Jan 03, 2012
ricardo12:

I am new to this forum but my question is in line with the Tier 1 post study work permit.


thank you for your request for an administrative review regarding our decision to refuse your application as a Tier 1 Post Study Worker in the UK.  I have duly considered your grounds for appeal but am satisfied the decision to refuse your application was correct.

You state in your grounds that you have submitted evidence of funds up to and including 26 August but this is not the case.  Your most recent account only covers the period to 15 March 2011.  You suggest the entry clearance officer should have contacted the bank to confirm the current balance but this is outside their remit and the bank would not have been able to provide the relevant information due to data protection issues.  The onus is on the applicant to provide sufficient evidence to support their application and you have quite clearly failed to do that on two occassions.  I have therefore upheld the decision.

You are entitled to re-apply at any time.

I have more than the required amount in my UK account but I relied on them to verify from my bank and they mentioned data protection. Moreover, the last sentence confused me the more. Can I really reapply even though it is over one year ago that my certificate was issued to me. I need your advice before they CHOP my money


I think you can re-apply with a year old certificate, check UKBA website for that.
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part2 by ooosamede2: 7:34am On Jan 03, 2012
justwise:


Please give advice on this!!
I have been given an offer for Msc in Uk, Can I use my Local Government as my sponsor, or they should pay the money into my account
If I can use my Local Government as my sponsor what are the documents I need to submit to the embassy along with my application

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Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part2 by justwise(m): 8:06am On Jan 03, 2012
ooosamede2:

Please give advice on this!!
I have been given an offer for Msc in Uk, Can I use my Local Government as my sponsor, or they should pay the money into my account
If I can use my Local Government as my sponsor what are the documents I need to submit to the embassy along with my application


Your sponsor has to show evidence of finance available to you and the letter addressed to the BHC. Or they put the money in your account
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part2 by ooosamede2: 9:40am On Jan 03, 2012
justwise:

Your sponsor has to show evidence of finance available to you and the letter addressed to the BHC. Or they put the money in your account
I have explained in details over and over to the Local Government that they have to attach their bank statement, they keep telling me that they will give me an award letter/scholarship letter that they will be sponsoring my education in the UK, that since it is my Home government that is sponsoring me that i do not need bank statement
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part2 by justwise(m): 9:46am On Jan 03, 2012
ooosamede2:

I have explained in details over and over to the Local Government that they have to attach their bank statement, they keep telling me that they will give me [b]an award letter/scholarship letter [/b]that they will be sponsoring my education in the UK, that since it is my Home government that is sponsoring me that i do not need bank statement

In that case go ahead with it.
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part2 by ooosamede2: 9:58am On Jan 03, 2012
justwise:

In that case go ahead with it.
Thank You Justwise, I do not want to take any chances you are very familiar with VISA system, Do you know if they have any special requirement that i need to submit with my VISA application in this regards? Has it worked for any one you know? In tier 4 students requirement that you are familiar with is it possible to apply without the bank statement?
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part2 by justwise(m): 10:11am On Jan 03, 2012
ooosamede2:

Thank You Justwise, I do not want to take any chances you are very familiar with VISA system, Do you know if they have any special requirement that i need to submit with my VISA application in this regards? Has it worked for any one you know? In tier 4 students requirement that you are familiar with is it possible to apply without the bank statement?

A scholarship award letter from your local govt should be enough in place of bank statement as long as that award letter can be verified through an official channel by the BHC. When you are given a scholarship by a govt i don't necessarily expect them to attach bank statement, an official letter explaining the details of the scholarship and why you deserved to be given one will do

You should inform your school that you are being sponsored by your local govt and the award letter forwarded to them as well.
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part2 by justwise(m): 10:13am On Jan 03, 2012
One more thing. . . check your school website about payment system as regard to people being sponsored by an organisation or govt.


And read UKBA Tie 4 policy guidance about people being sponsored by their home govt, there are some helpful info there.
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part2 by ooosamede2: 10:19am On Jan 03, 2012
justwise:

One more thing. . . check your school website about payment system as regard to people being sponsored by an organisation or govt.


And read UKBA Tie 4 policy guidance about people being sponsored by their home govt, there are some helpful info there.
Thank you checking it out will let you know what i got from the website
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part2 by justwise(m): 10:28am On Jan 03, 2012
ooosamede2:

Thank you checking it out will let you know what i got from the website

OK.
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part2 by ooosamede2: 10:41am On Jan 03, 2012
justwise:

OK.
I have gone through the website there is nothing i could find helpful
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part2 by ooosamede2: 11:08am On Jan 03, 2012
ooosamede2:

Thank you checking it out will let you know what i got from the website
I have gone through the school website there is nothing useful there in regard the sponsorship stuff
and i have checked UKBA Tie 4 policy guidance they did not make mention of any financial documents that is needed to be submitted
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part2 by justwise(m): 11:17am On Jan 03, 2012
ooosamede2:

I have gone through the school website there is nothing useful there in regard the sponsorship stuff
and i have checked UKBA Tie 4 policy guidance they did not make mention of any financial documents that is needed to be submitted


They did, read from . . . MONEY THAT CAN BE USED. . . 163

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitecontent/applicationforms/pbs/Tier4migrantguidance.pdf
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part2 by justwise(m): 11:20am On Jan 03, 2012
Reading through it again i noticed that you need evidence of money available to you as well as the letter as i stated before
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part2 by ooosamede2: 11:39am On Jan 03, 2012
justwise:

Reading through it again i noticed that you need evidence of money available to you as well as the letter as i stated before
The evidence of money held must be of cash funds in the bank (this includes savings 163. accounts and current accounts even when notice must be given), as a loan letter or official financial or government sponsorship available to the applicant. Other accounts or financial instruments such as shares, bonds, overdrafts, credit cards and pension funds are not acceptable, regardless of notice period.

Means i have to show bank statement, Am i right?
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part2 by justwise(m): 11:49am On Jan 03, 2012
ooosamede2:

The evidence of money held must be of cash funds in the bank (this includes savings 163. accounts and current accounts even when notice must be given), as a loan letter or official financial or government sponsorship available to the applicant. Other accounts or financial instruments such as shares, bonds, overdrafts, credit cards and pension funds are not acceptable, regardless of notice period.

Means i have to show bank statement, Am i right?

The line in bold says it all. Show that to your local govt and see if that will convince them.
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part2 by ooosamede2: 12:04pm On Jan 03, 2012
justwise:

The line in bold says it all. Show that to your local govt and see if that will convince them.
it was not stated if the Local Government have to keep the money in the bank for 28 days. What do you think about that ?
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part2 by justwise(m): 12:22pm On Jan 03, 2012
ooosamede2:

it was not stated if the Local Government have to keep the money in the bank for 28 days. What do you think about that ?

I don't really see the issue of 28days being applicable to a sponsor like local govt.
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part2 by ooosamede2: 12:29pm On Jan 03, 2012
justwise:

I don't really see the issue of 28days being applicable to a sponsor like local govt.
Thank you very much for your support, I pray i am able to convince them for their statement. I will keep in touch
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part2 by justwise(m): 12:39pm On Jan 03, 2012
ooosamede2:

Thank you very much for your support, I pray i am able to convince them for their statement. I will keep in touch



All the best of luck.
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part2 by ooosamede2: 5:51pm On Jan 03, 2012
justwise:


All the best of luck.

The information below is from this website http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/visas-immigration/studying/child-students/evidence/money/# you can check it out
Evidence of an official financial sponsor or government sponsor Close

If your Tier 4 sponsor is giving you any any official financial sponsorship, it can include details of this on your confirmation of acceptance for studies (CAS). You do not need to provide any documents as evidence of this official financial sponsorship. If you do not know whether your CAS contains this information, you must ask your Tier 4 sponsor.

In any other circumstances where you are being given official financial sponsorship, you must provide send us a letter of confirmation from your official financial sponsor. The letter must be on the organisation's official letter-headed paper or stationery, and must bear the organisation's official stamp. It must show:

*
your name ;
*
the official financial sponsor's name and contact details;
*
the date of the letter;
*
the length of the sponsorship; and
*
the amount of money that the official financial sponsor is giving to you, or a statement that it will cover all of your course fees and living costs.
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part2 by justwise(m): 6:39pm On Jan 03, 2012
ooosamede2:


The information below is from this website http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/visas-immigration/studying/child-students/evidence/money/# you can check it out
Evidence of an official financial sponsor or government sponsor Close

If your Tier 4 sponsor [/b]is giving you any any official financial sponsorship, it can include details of this on your confirmation of acceptance for studies (CAS). You do not need to provide any documents as evidence of this official financial sponsorship. If you do not know whether your CAS contains this information, you must ask your Tier 4 sponsor.

In any other circumstances where you are being given official financial sponsorship, you must provide send us a letter of confirmation from your official financial sponsor. The letter must be on the organisation's official letter-headed paper or stationery, and must bear the organisation's official stamp. It must show:

*
your name ;
*
the official financial sponsor's name and contact details;
*
the date of the letter;
*
the length of the sponsorship; and
*
[b]the amount of money that the official financial sponsor is giving to you
, or a statement that it will cover all of your course fees and living costs.



In this case they are referring to scholarship given to you by your school. Your school is referred to as Tie 4 sponsor
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part2 by ooosamede2: 7:41pm On Jan 03, 2012
justwise:

In this case they are referring to scholarship given to you by your school. Your school is referred to as Tie 4 sponsor
Thank you very much Just wise for answering my questions and very fast
How should my Local government write my supporting letter and the award/scholarship letter what should be included as per the BHC requirements things to include in their letter
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part2 by justwise(m): 8:33pm On Jan 03, 2012
ooosamede2:

Thank you very much Just wise for answering my questions and very fast
How should my Local government write my supporting letter and the award/scholarship letter what should be included as per the BHC requirements things to include in their letter

I'm pretty sure that your local govt will know exactly how to word those letters but all i can say is that you need two pieces documents from your local govt.

One is the scholarship award letter to you and another one is supporting letter addressed to the ECO from your local govt, confirming that you have been awarded a scholarship by them, details of the scholarship and reason(s) why you are the deserving winner of the scholarship. Both letters should state whether the scholarship is a full one or half scholarship, by that i mean whether the scholarship will cover all your school fees and maintenance fees or half of it.
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part2 by ooosamede2: 9:35am On Jan 04, 2012
justwise:

I'm pretty sure that your local govt will know exactly how to word those letters but all i can say is that you need two pieces documents from your local govt.

One is the scholarship award letter to you and another one is supporting letter addressed to the ECO from your local govt, confirming that you have been awarded a scholarship by them, details of the scholarship and reason(s) why you are the deserving winner of the scholarship. Both letters should state whether the scholarship is a full one or half scholarship, by that i mean whether the scholarship will cover all your school fees and maintenance fees or half of it.
Please JUSTWISE someone from the BCIE sent the email below but i totally do not agree with him
Dear Osamede,

Thanks for the enquiry. Please be informed that the UK Border Agency does
not recognise Local Govts as financial sponsors. Only the Federal Govt of
Nigeria is qualified to sponsor you. The option available to you now is to
convince your local govt to pay the money into your account or that of your
parents. Anything short of this will earn you visal refusal.

--

British Canadian International Education(BCIE)
Port Harcourt Office Manager
80 Aba Road, Opposite Government Crafts Development Center
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part2 by justwise(m): 2:48pm On Jan 04, 2012
ooosamede2:

Please JUSTWISE someone from the BCIE sent the email below but i totally do not agree with him
Dear Osamede,

Thanks for the enquiry. Please be informed that the UK Border Agency does
not recognise Local Govts as financial sponsors. Only the Federal Govt of
Nigeria is qualified to sponsor you. The option available to you now is to
convince your local govt to pay the money into your account or that of your
parents. Anything short of this will earn you visal refusal.

--

British Canadian International Education(BCIE)
Port Harcourt Office Manager
80 Aba Road, Opposite Government Crafts Development Center


If they said that local govt can't sponsor you then let them pay the money into your account since the scholarship is given to you already. It will save you alot of trouble that way.
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part2 by ooosamede2: 3:59pm On Jan 04, 2012
justwise:

If they said that local govt can't sponsor you then let them pay the money into your account since the scholarship is given to you already. It will save you alot of trouble that way.
I have called the embassy several times they cant tell me if my Local Govt can be my sponsor they keep telling me to check the web,i have sent series of email and they have refused to reply, This Uk System is something Else even America and Canada is not as though as this, i will go ahead and apply and submit it with their bank statement
A Tier 4 (General) student can receive official financial sponsor from Her Majesty’s 172. Government, the Tier 4 (General) student’s home government, the British Council or any international organisation, international company, university or an Independent School.
If one can be sponsored by his company,Uncle, etc i think my Local GOVT can sponsor me, paying the money into my account they might think will abandon my education and run away with their money, you know how Govt thinks. i will go to my Local Govt before monday i will let u know the outcome
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part2 by olujwon: 8:30pm On Jan 04, 2012
Justwise kindly access my case. I submitted my application already, and i only submitted my laminated degree certificate. Thats the only thing stated in my cas. I also submitted my bank statement with a cover note from the bank. Now the thing is all i need to show in my account is N2.6m, my account has not gone below N2.9m for over 2months but money goes in and out. Now this is my fear, i deposited some money for my sister, about 1million naira which i took out to help her pay for something cus she wasn't in the country then. the payment took my balance to about 4million naira and wen i took it out, i still had 3m. now my quest is the transactions are on the statement i submitted i hope there won't be any quest about it. And by the way, i still hav a running 2yrs uk visa on my passport hope dat counts for good.
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part2 by justwise(m): 12:12am On Jan 05, 2012
olujwon:

Justwise kindly access my case. I submitted my application already, and i only submitted my laminated degree certificate. Thats the only thing stated in my cas. I also submitted my bank statement with a cover note from the bank. Now the thing is all i need to show in my account is N2.6m, my account has not gone below N2.9m for over 2months but money goes in and out. Now this is my fear, i deposited some money for my sister, about 1million naira which i took out to help her pay for something cus she wasn't in the country then. the payment took my balance to about 4million naira and wen i took it out, i still had 3m. now my quest is the transactions are on the statement i submitted i hope there won't be any quest about it. And by the way, i still hav a running 2yrs uk visa on my passport hope dat counts for good.

As long as the transaction did not affect the 28days counting then u will be ok.

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