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nwando
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back to topic:
Possible solutions:
option 1 . this is an option for peaceful christians who advocate tuning the other cheek.leave the north and its barbarians.
Nigeria is an unsafe country. Migrations are for economic reasons. As I said earlier, I´m from ilorin. I have , never worked a day of my life in ilorin. I never intended to. So I´m in lagos - the center of excellent area boys, bribe taking, set u uping killer policemen, go slow armed robbers, overzealous lastma, ferma, FRSC and 'local government ' officials. Its a crazy town. but since I´ve decided that i must get that paper($), I close my eyes to the madness around me, and pray that when and if my turn comes, i make out alright.
Some may say Lagos is a bad methapor. so try PH. MEND, Cultists - yet people still hustle down to PH everyday. They decide that the possibility of getting kidnapped, catching a stray bullet, being arrested for spying are acceptable risks.
that is the reality of nigeria. the north is a voltile place, full of mad almajiris - then what are you doing there? is a business venture worth your life?
A lot has been previously said about Saudi Arabia. My Dad worked there for ten years. Plenty of devout christians worked there as well. no one forced them to go there.they decided on their own that they would work in a place where churches, drinking , and going about uncovered is illegal. they decided that financial security was more important than the luxury of freedom of religious expression.
Nwando has so much to say about the north where she and several of her relatives grew up.why did they choose to reside in a repressive, anachronistic society? is nigeria that small? or did her relatives come to the decision that financial opportunities/possibilities are more important than freedom of religous expression?
'these abokis, they´re very stupid! this N3 shoe they are buying it for N20! ha buisiness good for this place O! wetin? them dey kill us? no worry, God go protect us.No church for this place? that one na small thing. . .'
you're all 'authorites' on islam. you must have know that Prophet Muhammed had to emigrate from Mecca to Medina because of hostilities. In Islam emigration for religious prurposes is one of the best good deeds. i don't know if its the same in christianity- but for devout christains who consider their faith the most important thing in their life- just leave the infidel, barbabrian north.
here is a second , surefire solution -
government backed reprisals in flagrant violation of every UN charter - Jukun style. the government simply calls in soldiers to ´wipe out´almajiris after an incident in which christians are killed. if this happens twice, all attacks will most definetely cease. nigeria will lose face with the UN, Amnesty international, etc, but the christians will be safe. so, what do you think?
this worked in lagos two years ago.some foolish area boys killed a soldier in oshodi.for a forthnight, it was open season on area boys. they vanished from the streets.the soldiers dealt with them. we actually thought the area boy menace was gone forever.sadly, it transpired( that was the story, anyway-that the 'area fathers' made a big cash settlement with the army chiefs, and all was forgeotten/ forgiven).
since education is not achieveable, violence is a better option.this may backfire though,if the culture of arming miscreants( well established down south) is adopted up north.
you better hope no backward northern governors decide to follow the examples of their sophisticated southern counter parts.can you imagine almajiris with guns? everything considered, though, i don't think the northern governors will make that mistake. arming miscreants is what led to the current niger delta crisis. the governors and elite probably realise that if they arm the almajiris, they are shifting power to them.
so all things considered, the reprisal option is the best.preferably within hours after an incident. are the self described 'pacifist' christians ok with that? are you worried about collateral damage?
did you really mean that sincerely. Asking a Nigerian why they chose to live in a part of Nigeria ? Is that your true feelings or are you speaking out of frustration? Anywonder we can't make any headway if this is how far your intelligence can go. Since you asked that question,there may be zillions asking the same but rather than say it by word of mouth,they may grab a machete. Abeg go eat your sallah ram and drink your kunu.  |
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almondjoy (f)
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You can always place your bet on an "oyb" Vs "nwando" encounter. The best there is on Nairaland. Please carry on---the tickets are sold out! |
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nwando
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The guy like me no be small. I'm flattered |
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oyb (m)
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You can always place your bet on and "oyb" Vs "nwando" encounter. The best there is on Nairaland. Please carry on---the tickets are sold out! er . . .admin, wey my cut? |
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focused (m)
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All I know is that Islam is a satanic demonic religion.
Ishmael is a wide ass man. He is against everyone and everyone is against him. Ishmael is the father of Arabs. So all arabs are aggressive, very wicked,against everyone and everyone is against them.
Anyone who adopt their ways will be like them.
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jujukemist (m)
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???ignorance indeed is a disease
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focused (m)
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Jibberish, gabberish bunch of nonesense, frustrated nigerians, tribalistic assholes, intolerant religious bigots and totally totally ignorant fools, too many infact on nairaland.
Why don't you all get a life. Religious conflicts will never end, it has been around from the beginning of creation and will be around till the end of times.
Love it or hate, I'm out.
PEACE!
You are an ignorant Idiot. Idiotic beast. frustrated fool. demonic mother f#cking asshole, dumb faggot asshole. I think you should get a proper life. You cannot stop me from expressing my opinion. If you don't like it, why don't you go and stop all those murderous muslims brothers of yours from killing innocent Citizens all in the name of religion. When are we blacks going to learn? ?, you are showing solidarity to all these arabs who never like black people and will NEVER like black people. They see black people as inferior human beings
The other time, one Northern emir was deported from Saudi Arabia. If it is a Syrian emir or Jordanian emir, would saudi arabian authoritities deport him??
Enough is enough !!! capish!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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focused (m)
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???ignorance indeed is a disease
Jujukemist or what ever rubbish you say you are , I think juju is indeed disstabilising your brain |
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ilugunboy (m)
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omo! this thread na fire for fire, i strayed in and am diving out  |
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Uche2nna (m)
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Just like Watson said, the blacks are genetically inclined not to think -------- A discussion starts off on a thread anmd before You know it the terrorists jump in and start their kolomentality. How can we learn anything if we are continually @ each other's throat? Cant You guys ever disagree without resorting to name-calling?  Watson's hypothesis is still lulling over ma mind. |
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focused (m)
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Just like Watson said, the blacks are genetically inclined not to think -------- A discussion starts off on a thread anmd before You know it the terrorists jump in and start their kolomentality. How can we learn anything if we are continually @ each other's throat? Cant You guys ever disagree without resorting to name-calling? Watson's hypothesis is still lulling over ma mind.
To Ilungunboy and uchenna : I don't agree with Watson and his genetic statements. Well I guess everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I am sure a lot of white people have worst opinion than that. I was only expressing my opinion, before this oduduwa and jujuchemist, started raining their insults on me. If they don't like muslims being called a terrorist, they should do something about it. at least preach some senses to their suicide bomber brothers and sisters God !!!, what kind of religion, doesn't have regard for human life. Enough is enough for all these nonsense |
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jujukemist (m)
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Just like Watson said, the blacks are genetically inclined not to think -------- A discussion starts off on a thread and before You know it the terrorists jump in and start their kolomentality. How can we learn anything if we are continually @ each other's throat? Cant You guys ever disagree without resorting to name-calling? Watson's hypothesis is still lulling over ma mind. Thank you uche2nna you have spoken well like a scientist learned fellow. It is people like focused that causes Watson's theory to be true and cause religious intolerance in this country.He has succeeded to practice terrorism online. If he was born a muslim what would he say? Assuming he has a religion-what has his religion taught him about his muslim brothers who strap explosives and kill themselves and others.Has he bothered to know the driver ideology behind such behaviour. Does he care to know why the muslims in the UAE are diff from the ones in Gaza. Why the muslims in Kano and kad are diff from that of Oyo and Lagos.What do we do to stop the killings in Kaduna and kano.Focused thinks he has the monoply to be spiting fire on the net. No wonder someone came to this thread and dived out immediately,surprisingly it seems he is burning himself leaving the issue behind.Uche2nna, once again thank you for putting the issue in perspective. Foolishness is INTRINSIC and GENETIC. I rest my case |
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focused (m)
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[quoteJust like Watson said, the blacks are genetically inclined not to think -------- A discussion starts off on a thread anmd before You know it the terrorists jump in and start their kolomentality. How can we learn anything if we are continually @ each other's throat? Cant You guys ever disagree without resorting to name-calling? Watson's hypothesis is still lulling over ma mind.] You are an Idiot. You are the osama bin Laden on this forum. I was only expressing my opinnion, and some mannerless beast started raining insults on me. Its a pity that anything a white man says to you, you just accept it. A lot of black people have achieved a lot of things. How can someone called Watson just come and stereotype all black people. They stereotype you and you just accept it. I really feel pity for your life. |
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focused (m)
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Thank you uche2nna you have spoken well like a scientist learned fellow. It is people like focused that causes Watson's theory to be true and cause religious intolerance in this country.He has succeeded to practice terrorism online. If he was born a muslim what would he say?
Assuming he has a religion-what has his religion taught him about his muslim brothers who strap explosives and kill themselves and others.Has he bothered to know the driver ideology behind such behaviour. Does he care to know why the muslims in the UAE are diff from the ones in Gaza. Why the muslims in Kano and kad are diff from that of Oyo and Lagos.What do we do to stop the killings in Kaduna and kano.Focused thinks he has the monoply to be spiting fire on the net. No wonder someone came to this thread and dived out immediately,surprisingly it seems he is burning himself leaving the issue behind.Uche2nna, once again thank you for putting the issue in perspective. Foolishness is INTRINSIC and GENETIC. I rest my case Juju, I am not surprised because juju is disturbing your horrible brain.
You are extremely foolish, you are a complete Idiotic beast.
I will appreciate if you do not respond, you silly twat . |
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Danmasani (m)
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Damn, someone here seems very troubled. Focused, are you troubled?
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I-man (m)
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As mad as an Islamist |
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focused (m)
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Damn, someone here seems very troubled. Focused, are you troubled? @Danmasani : I am not troubled my brother. I am an easy going person. I don't like people insulting me when I try to express my view. All I want is an intelligent discussion, not a catalogue of insults. |
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jujukemist (m)
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As mad as an Islamist Juju, I am not surprised because juju is disturbing your horrible brain.
You are extremely foolish, you are a complete Idiotic beast.
I will appreciate if you do not respond, you silly twat .
All I know is that Islam is a satanic demonic religion.
Ishmael is a wide ass man. He is against everyone and everyone is against him. Ishmael is the father of Arabs. So all arabs are aggressive, very wicked,against everyone and everyone is against them.
Anyone who adopt their ways will be like them.
young man What is intelligent about your posts here? Why is somebody suspecting you to be Psychologically imbalanced? What is intelligent about your statement"All I know is that Islam is a satanic demonic religion."Or you were showing off your advance Ignorance. You think you have the monopoly of online terrorism? Check all the posts, who is really talking intelligently here. Are you better than Osama and his likes? How come you have not responded to the issues i raised earlier? Or perhaps they are not "intelligent" enough.You have the audacity to be insulting people online. Can you do that Face to Face-you this Imbalanced Molecular Ensemble,suffering from proton Abstraction  Is it because Egbon Seun opened your eye by giving you a platform to be mis yarning. Even in your own religion, you showed how shallow you are. You bloody Gentile! Read your Bilble very well Ishmael was blessed by God far much better than you useless Gentile. Except you truly Accept Christ, so that you can become joint heirs to his kingdom-olboy nothing for you. Go to this thread and learn about intelligent accurate discusions.www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-86405.128.html#bot Wawa irn Ka |
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focused (m)
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young man What is intelligent about your posts here? Why is somebody suspecting you to be Psychologically imbalanced? What is intelligent about your statement"All I know is that Islam is a satanic demonic religion."Or you were showing off your advance Ignorance. You think you have the monopoly of online terrorism? Check all the posts, who is really talking intelligently here. Are you better than Osama and his likes? How come you have not responded to the issues i raised earlier? Or perhaps they are not "intelligent" enough.You have the audacity to be insulting people online. Can you do that Face to Face-you this Imbalanced Molecular Ensemble,suffering from proton Abstraction Is it because Egbon Seun opened your eye by giving you a platform to be mis yarning. Even in your own religion, you showed how shallow you are. You bloody Gentile! Read your Bilble very well Ishmael was blessed by God far much better than you useless Gentile. Except you truly Accept Christ, so that you can become joint heirs to his kingdom-olboy nothing for you. Go to this thread and learn about intelligent accurate discusions.www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-86405.128.html#bot Wawa irn Ka
You are making no sense, with what you have written. You are only using big words you don't know the meaning, you pernicious, little oddious vermin. Who do you think you are ? Let me tell you, I can say this to your face and you cannot do anything, and if you attempt to challenge me, I will beat the hell out of you. You are the one who is psychologically imbalanced here. You silly bloody idiot. You are one of the most advanced ignorant beast on this forum, if not for this forum, I don't think, me and you have anything in common. Satanic Beast. Yes, Ishmael is a wide ass man. If you can afford to write big words you don't know the meaning, go and look for the meaning of a wide ass man. f#cking idiot, look at you calling me a gentile. I am not a terrorist, but you are. You are an advanced cyber terrorist. What issues have you raised ? silly idiot. like father (Ishmael and mohammed) like son (jujuchemist). It will be a good idea if beast like you should remove their profile and let know people with good heads |
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olrotimi (m)
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these guys are like their father, the devil.so heartless
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Uche2nna (m)
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You are making no sense, with what you have written. You are only using big words you don't know the meaning, you pernicious, little oddious vermin. Who do you think you are ? Let me tell you, I can say this to your face and you cannot do anything, and if you attempt to challenge me, I will beat the hell out of you. You are the one who is psychologically imbalanced here. You silly bloody idiot. You are one of the most advanced ignorant beast on this forum, if not for this forum, I don't think, me and you have anything in common. Satanic Beast. Yes, Ishmael is a wide ass man. If you can afford to write big words you don't know the meaning, go and look for the meaning of a wide ass man. f#cking idiot, look at you calling me a gentile. I am not a terrorist, but you are. You are an advanced cyber terrorist. What issues have you raised ? silly idiot. like father (Ishmael and mohammed) like son (jujuchemist). It will be a good idea if beast like you should remove their profile and let know people with good heads Now this one got me cracking.  Seriously, how can u genuinely think You will beat the hell out of a person You haven't met @ topic Anyway, like I always say "Insults will not get us anywhere". We just have to find ways to deal with our differences. If You ask me to make one wish for Nigeria, I would just wish for the nation to be carved up. The amalgamation of 1914 is definitely not working. But that is a wish and You know that if wishes were horses------------- But hey, will this even solve the problem. Hell No!!!! No matter waht happens to Nigeria as a nation 2morrow, Ibos will still be living in the north and pari passu for the Hausas or Yorubas. |
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willy*2
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You are making no sense, little oddious vermin. Who do you think you are ?
I can say this to your face and you cannot do anything, I will beat the hell out of you. You silly bloody idiot. if not for this forum, I don't think, me and you have anything in common.
Satanic Beast.
f#cking idiot, look at you calling me a gentile.
I am not a terrorist, but you are. silly idiot.
Wooh |
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dot2002 (f)
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Ethnic Prejudice, Stereotypes, Discrimination, ng is a perfect example of a chaotic system
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laudate
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Hehehe. . . . .I think it is called cyber-fight or shadow boxing. Some people and their funny threats! Anyway, like I always say "Insults will not get us anywhere". We just have to find ways to deal with our differences. If You ask me to make one wish for Nigeria, I would just wish for the nation to be carved up. The amalgamation of 1914 is definitely not working. But that is a wish and You know that if wishes were horses------------- But hey, will this even solve the problem. Hell No!!!! No matter waht happens to Nigeria as a nation 2morrow, Ibos will still be living in the north and pari passu for the Hausas or Yorubas. Even if the nation were carved up today, I still do not see the problem going away. What you would have, would be intra-ethnic conflict on a wider scale. Then you would see the Umuleri man telling the Aguleri man that he should get out of his area. You will probably hear the Ijebu man telling the Ibadan man, that he knows next to nothing about what is going on. And of course, the Jukun man will warn the Hausa man to zip it, because they are merely settlers, not indigenes. Very soon, every hamlet and every street will want its' own country, currency and flag. Until Nigerians learn to respect others, irrespective of ethnic, tribal or religious affiliations. . . .this problem will not end. |
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jujukemist (m)
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My position is this, ignorant muslims and xtians especially xtians have been causing people to die,especially in the north. Such ignorance is even displayed on this thread freely.If the foundation is faulty what can the ritheous do? Peace abeg
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willy*2
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Another Jihad don start for Bauchi
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jujukemist (m)
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Another Jihad don start for Bauchi
They are carrying out the jihad as prescribed in their koran. What can we do. |
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willy*2
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They are carrying out the jihad as prescribed in their koran. What can we do.
Juju, I have said it many times, the only way to stop all this killings by brainless Northern Moslems is by retaliating, if not this their desires to kill the innocent will go on and on. |
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SysUser (m)
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First and foremost, let us get this out of the way, I AM A CHRISTIAN who believes Muslims an Atheits, Agnostics (whether "good" or "bad") are going to Hell. Rigtheousness is not the same as being MORAL.
For any muslim take note that I have muslim relatives, as such I understand the ramifications of the Truth upon those relatives if they die as muslims.
Whether you believe it or not is irrelevant the truth is that, only one of the so called Religions is the TRUTH.
The Good News of Jesus Christ is the truth, Yes JESUS is THE WAY, THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE , If you want further truth that Buddism, Hinduism, Traditional Religios, Islam are all works of the Devil. Search the internet and seek the truth because you will find it. e.g. ISAAC versus ISHMEAL, e.g. ADAM & EVE versus MOHAMMED plus 4 WIVES, e.g. NO MARRIAGE in HEAVEN versus DEAD TERRORIST with VIRGINS in Muslims' "heaven" (actually HELL).
At times you begin to wonder whether or not the god of the muslims is a sex fanatic or not. Jesus himself said there is no marriage in heaven. Yet the so called muslims try and twist the truth that they believe in their own version of Jesus who they call ISSA.
Since as far as I know, The Devil has always been trying to duplicate what God has done, so as to try and deceive people to do wrong things , e.g. when the Isrealites after coming out from Egypt built an Idol, during the so called Christian "Military" Crusades. He tried to duplicate the Good News of Christ by deceiving the lost soul known as Mohammed that he was an angel of light who has brought a message from God to him. (Check the information from people like Walid Shoebat, Zac Anani, Ibrahim Abdallah). Do you now see why there are a lot of dogmas in Islam (e.g. 4 wives, Virgins, killing in the name of allah, referencing the name of an ordinary man called mohammed, violence against any one who rejects islam, violence against anyone who leaves islam "just like a cult group"). I can go on forever trying to prove to you Islam is a Demonic cult. However this mail is not for that.
Finally just remember that before now demonic cults like that of Baal existed (probably still exists) during the time of Elijah, they had powerful forces and convictions just like Muslims of today, they killed those who believe in the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob then just as some Muslims do now. Remember it got to a stage that Elijah had to run out of fear.Yet the truth is that God is always the winner, God is always true and right, God is always love. So understand that during the end of days things would get worse rather than get better.
Back to the main topic , though I am also angry about all these attacks and killings, yet the truth is that that is exactly what the devil wants. The devil wants a Christian to lose every power, right and priviledge he has by making the Christian angry, sad, feeling vulnerable, feeling hopeless, feeling the need for revenge, so that we (Christians) would end up making a mistake, creating more problem by retaliating, hating muslims (instead of praying for them and preaching to them about what is true and what is not).
Therefore contrary to what my Flesh wants:
Concerning the destroying of the mosque in bauchi, Let me say that I condemn the act of destroying the "physical" Mosque (though I completely support destroying every principalities, powers and spiritual wickedness and "spiritual" mosques).
concerning other religious attacks of Muslims on Christians and attacks of Christians on Muslims, I strongly condemn all of them .
I also condemn the crimes and corruption committed by christians in the name of religion, anger, retaliation and other things.
We Christians should be "Peace and be Still" so that we would know that HE IS GOD.
"Ye shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free":
1. It is wrong for A MOSQUE to have been built in a "Government School" because the school is was not a muslim school in the first place.
2. It is demonic for someone to believe that killing a person would make one a holy person, instead it makes you as close to demons as possible.
3. It is wrong for the Christian Students to have allegedly destroyed the Mosque (because the battle is the Lord's, therefore we are not expected to take laws into our hands).
4. It is wrong for Christians to want to retaliate due to frustration and anger.
5. It is wrong for Christians to hate Muslims (understand that they are lost, even though they themselves don't know that they are lost)
Above all things please be at peace that God is in control. Let us understand that it is in the devil's interest if there is war, it is in the devil's interest if True Christians get angry with Muslims so much that they don't preach to them to get born again. The devil knows that violence will bring the dark cycle of retailiation, hence he will try everything to start it in the first place.
Even though we may suffer physical lose during these period let us as Christians know that the Outcome of the Battle as already being determined even before it started. Christians through Christ have already won every battle either with the Devil himself, muslims, islamist, moderates, atheits, agnostics buddist, hinduist etc
Some of them are fighting for control over the physical land (which will pass away, we are enduring for the Crown which would be giving us). The devil (through them) knows that he has but a little time hence he is going about trying to destroy as many souls as possible either through violence, false believe or war
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