Why Are Nigerians So Tribalistic?

Did you get all that from reading my posts or trying to READ INTO MY POSTS @RichyBlack  Please can we stick to the topic here??? The Fact stands,  I do not agree with his take on TRIBALISM being the problem. I believe She has a right to Decide if He is good enough for her or not and she picked tribal factors to push it on, simple. And Do I hate her for that,  NO cause I believe she has a right to choose as she wants to. Now about the whole some of us have at one time or another thought of bashing another's head in but have practised restraint instead, that has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with freedom of choice as I chose to address it and you know it. Fact remains that she had a choice to make and she made it and he heard tribe was the issue. I am not Boohooing the dude,  I am simply giving my take on it. TO call me Racist?? Well,  that would matter if I believe there is any such thing as race when it comes to humans so in my world,  that word does not apply cause I see all persons as being same and we are all raised differently and look different. I do respect being who are tribalistic and I  helped above, I posted the very dictionary meaning of the word itself. If an indian girl told us that she would not matter her friend cause he is american, I am sure many would understand her, why not understand the case here of this girl refusing this boy cause he is not of the same tribe??


HERE is my take on Racism , since you bring it up yourself. We are all racist to some level, whether we want to accept it or not. Those who focus so much on the topic end up doing their own selves in as I see it as I do Jealousy, both sides Loose. I mean you used the black americans for example vs the whites. I will use it this way. The majority of the blacks I have met who go on and on about how racist whites are do not see the monster eating up at them at all. They are more like bitter people who are consumed by this monster and most everything they think of is under the control of the monster. The racist on the other hand has the same issues, he is seriously limited in his thinking and majority of the time can not see far ahead of where his racist side can. I choose not to even bother myself with thoughts of the monster and so racism, may exist but I instead choose to take situations as they present themselves.

I know we can play the HERO and UNDERDOG game in here but fact remains,  She did not want him and Tribe was her reason. Should he blame TRIBALISM? I would think not but if he wants to do that, that is fine by me but I do not have to Agree with him cause I do not see the world as he does. Do I think the girl did the right thing ?? ABSOLUTELY, why?? cause it is her life and she exercised her right as a human to choice to get involved with someone she did not want to based on whatever standard she so chose to apply in the case and I greatly respect her for that. Simple!!

Well,  if you read what he said, he OVERHEARD the conversation she was having with someone else on the issue. It is not that he actually got first hand details from her as to why. I mean the short we get is that according to what he heard, that is all to it. Even to me that short does not make complete sense, or even enough sense for him to claim tribalism is the issue. For one, he did not even mention where he happens to be.

If she is in Lagos, then I believe she can not be deemed tribalistic at all cause she is among yorubas and at one time or another she WILL HAVE TO converse with other yorubas. If he happened to be in an Igbo area where the only Yoruba's she has been exposed to have not really given her something good to go with, she has a right to decide to completely stay away from yorubas. It could also be that she discovered something about him that she found appalling and decided instead of telling the other employee the truth, to just make him go away by telling him it was just tribe. I don't believe we know enough of the story to actually say TRIBALISM is the issue.

That was a good way to put it @Iya aje


Deep down we are not really a WORLD United,  we are made up of human beings who belong to one creed or another, family or another, tribe or another,  I believe the issue here remains that this dude called Adeniyi has yet to provide us with substantial evidence that tribalism is at fault in this case. From his post, the woman made her choice and he did not even get more information for us. so again ,  Tribalism is not the issue here,  and please learn to respect people's choices no matter what you would prefer instead in cases like this ,  simple!!


She no won talk to you,  would it have been better if she had said something like " Because your teeth crooked" or some other reason there ?? I mean I would expect you as an adult to conduct more research to get to the bottom of the issue. Not jump to conclude what you heard is 100%

What is your point? Assuming the girl is an advocate of tribalism, can you tell me how things would have played differently?

Anyway, I'm encouraged that you're trying to move away from the tribalism-is-good camp. But your new adeniyi83-is-not-telling-the-truth camp is only less worse.

I am sorry if you can not understand my post there. I mean exactly what I stated earlier. STOP BRINGING racism and other issues into it ,  this is not about it for me and I do not care what you think I think of those. I would however like to focus on the topic here and that is the issue of tribalism being at fault here which I still believe is not the case,  Simple!!! if you want to continue to attack my person ,  you are free to continue but excuse me while I get back to getting more information on the main topic the thread is really about !! In all my posts ,  I have yet to mention what tribe I belong to and I really do not care what class you would like to shove me so you can feel better,  .The fact remains,  I do not see what you see as per what Adeniyi posted. Until the man can provide me more than he has, I am sorry I will never see what you seem to see or how you bring racism and the other issues into this. I am sorry !!! I can not help you there !!@Richblack

The way this debate is going, the insults and personal attacks reminds me of the ongoing battle for everyone to be PC. If you are not for us, if you do not AGREE WITH US , you are not FIT TO LIVE/YOU ARE STUPID/ YOU ARE EVIL/ YOU ARE WICKED ,  yet this is coming from people who are trying to claim they are more tolerant than those they are against LOL 

What is your point? Assuming the girl is an advocate of tribalism, can you tell me how things would have played differently?

Anyway, I'm encouraged that you're trying to move away from the tribalism-is-good camp. But your new adeniyi83-is-not-telling-the-truth camp is only less worse.

Richyblack, just save your breath. This is known as the 'beating-around-the-bush' tactic. We can all read between the lines!

Keep in mind that there is really no such thing as Nigeria. There is Yoruba land, Igbo Land, Hausa Land, etc. Nigeria is a creation of British imperialists who deserted the country after rampaging it, stealing it's resources (both natural and human), and imposing their nonsense religion on it's people,. What do you expect when arbitrary boundaries are drawn up irrespective of the fact that the people living within the boundaries may have different cultures languages and customs. We will one day overcome it all, and learn to respect each other.

“Tribalism is tough in terms of definition,” says Professor William Lindeke from the University of Namibia’s Political Science Department. The reason for this, Lindeke says, is because tribalism deals with identity.

“How do you define people?” he asks.
“Some might define themselves through their ethnic group, while others might identify themselves through the language they speak, or where they live. So it’s difficult, especially from a research point of view.”

“Nepotism,” he says, “refers to favouritism on the basis of family, acquaintances, regionalism and such-like. You can practice nepotism based on your country of origin, regardless of tribal relationships.”

Tribalism, on the other hand, is exercised in such a way that someone, for example in an influential position, directs “all benefits, such as employment opportunities or promotions, to the people of his or her tribe”.
In Africa especially, he says, tribalism has been found to be more “dangerously devastating” than nepotism, citing massacres in Rwanda and Burundi as extreme examples of the effects of tribalism.

A second opinion
Lindeke, on the other hand, has a different take on these two terms.
“Tribalism is about the idea of 'us' versus 'them',” he says. “But there are many ways people practice these things.”
 
He defines tribalism as a feeling of belonging to one group as opposed to another, while nepotism is when someone only gives jobs or contracts to people from their own group, however they choose to define this group.

Lindeke says that some people understand the term tribalism in a positive sense, such as when there is a cohesiveness between people who feel they are part of a lineage, either because they have been through the same experiences or come from the same background.

In its worse form, Lindeke says, tribalism or “identity politics” can be used by demagogues or ‘ethnic brokers’ to “manipulate the passions and emotions of other people in order to promote their own power.”