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Afam (m)
Website Review - Just Nigeria Entertainment
« on: October 08, 2007, 03:34 PM »

Hello,

Could anyone review the website www.justnigeriaentertainment.com and post comments, criticisms and suggestions?

The site is being setup to become an entertainment information portal for Nigerians with heavy emphasis on Nigeria Entertainment.

Basically there is no limit to what can be implemented on the website.

So, if you have an idea you think is cool, just let me know and it will be implemented.

On the web, it is all about data manipulation, think it, we actualize it.
tundewoods (m)
Re: Website Review - Just Nigeria Entertainment
« #1 on: October 08, 2007, 06:03 PM »

Quote from: Afam on October 08, 2007, 03:34 PM

So, if you have an idea you think is cool, just let me know and it will be implemented.

On the web, it is all about data manipulation, think it, we actualize it.

I'm certainly not impressed with what i've seen up there,it lacks creativity reqiired for an entertainment related website.
Your last line in your post caught my attention.On the web creativity and asthetics play a major role just as content delivery and layout.

Go back to the drawing board,get some one to do your interface layout to add the much needed touch of style.
Take a cue from Point's just completed website www. talkofnaija.com.
Afam (m)
Re: Website Review - Just Nigeria Entertainment
« #2 on: October 08, 2007, 07:26 PM »

Thanks a lot. I will remember to take all your comments into consideration.

Back to drawing board.
boraddo (m)
Re: Website Review - Just Nigeria Entertainment
« #3 on: October 08, 2007, 07:29 PM »



i suggest u check mtv or other nigerian sites for concepts

www.naijahub.com or  www.naijajams.com are my favorite nigerian entertainment sites,
Afam (m)
Re: Website Review - Just Nigeria Entertainment
« #4 on: October 08, 2007, 08:14 PM »

Quote from: boraddo on October 08, 2007, 07:29 PM

i suggest u check mtv or other nigerian sites for concepts

www.naijahub.com or  www.naijajams.com are my favorite nigerian entertainment sites,

Thanks.

I did check mtvbase.com and mtv.com yesterday and the level of user interaction was not as high as I would expect an entertainment website to be.

www.naijahub.com is nice but again I believe the web is moving away from organization centric to user focused activity, every where web strategies are being redefined.

www.naijajams.com is a blog and believe me the news section and the forum section of www.justnigeriaentertainment.com have enough features to cover that.

I am not a web designer and I never hide the fact that programming is my area of specialty but the reality staring one in the face is that many of us do all the design on discussion forums and not on actual web projects.

I am a firm believer of usefulness, ease of navigation and speed on the web.

I am willing to visit any entertainment website and learn one or two things from there.

Thanks for your comments, I really appreciate them.
juintade (m)
Re: Website Review - Just Nigeria Entertainment
« #5 on: October 08, 2007, 09:23 PM »

@poster

i am must say congrats for the brief decision to undertake such a project. But common let us face it, the website is not up to standard, dont mean to insult who designed it, but my dog (if i had one) would do better.

Someone did talk about mtv.com, i think there site is a bit to heavy to be entertainment site.

A good site i would recommend you look at are

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/default.stm
very accessible and fast loading with minimal/close to none flash component

http://www.eonline.com/
well designed with links on the front page to the relevant section

I am not sure what your devine goal is for the site, maybe you might want to share it with us

out of curiosity are you using a Content Management System and what programming platform are you using
Afam (m)
Re: Website Review - Just Nigeria Entertainment
« #6 on: October 08, 2007, 10:15 PM »

Quote from: juintade on October 08, 2007, 09:23 PM
@poster

i am must say congrats for the brief decision to undertake such a project. But common let us face it, the website is not up to standard, don't mean to insult who designed it, but my dog (if i had one) would do better.

I guess your dog (if you had one) would do better working on the your website and your blog.

Quote from: juintade on October 08, 2007, 09:23 PM
Someone did talk about mtv.com, i think there site is a bit to heavy to be entertainment site.

A good site i would recommend you look at are

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/default.stm
very accessible and fast loading with minimal/close to none flash component

http://www.eonline.com/
well designed with links on the front page to the relevant section

I am not sure what your devine goal is for the site, maybe you might want to share it with us

out of curiosity are you using a Content Management System and what programming platform are you using

Out of curiosity? If you cannot make out the programming platform then it shows you don't know anything about programming platforms, sorry.

Thanks anyway for your comments.
xanadu
Re: Website Review - Just Nigeria Entertainment
« #7 on: October 08, 2007, 10:27 PM »

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But common let us face it, the website is not up to standard, don't mean to insult who designed it, but my dog (if i had one) would do better.

Whoa - if you really meant to insult the designer, I wonder what your comments would have been?
juintade (m)
Re: Website Review - Just Nigeria Entertainment
« #8 on: October 08, 2007, 10:41 PM »

@poster.

Honestly, let me start by apologising if you think i insulted you, I do seriously apologise.

But lets face it, if you cant take insult and crticism then I suggest you dont ask for website review, i do apologise seriously for my previous post and for this one.


If you are intelligent enough you would notice that I did not design the blog, idiot it was done on google platform, hence my dog would not be able to desgin that.

Secondly the latest web i deployed is well out of your league to design, but one thing i know is that my dog would do a better job that you would in  a life time.

the front page of your site was to boring for my to navigate to the next page, but eh i took the time out to view it and realise it was php(does that now mean i know programming, lol, dumb)

Maybe you need to seperate style from content by putting all your CSS in an external file.

Maybe you should add more content and complete the site before you start asking for review and please learn to accept criticism

Afam (m)
Re: Website Review - Just Nigeria Entertainment
« #9 on: October 08, 2007, 10:56 PM »

@juintade,

I take criticisms well. If I don't I wouldn't have asked for them.

I handle insults well too, I guess that is why you are responding a second time.

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Maybe you need to seperate style from content by putting all your CSS in an external file.

Do you just say things you don't understand? The styling is in an external file but I guess you really don't know what the the statement you made means in reality.

Quote
Maybe you should add more content and complete the site before you start asking for review and please learn to accept criticism

I agree with you on this one. I have perfected the art of accepting criticisms just as I have perfected the art of responding to insults and believe me I know the difference between the 2.

And don't go about believing that insulting people is part of what comes with criticisms.
boraddo (m)
Re: Website Review - Just Nigeria Entertainment
« #10 on: October 08, 2007, 11:03 PM »

i guess my point was not clear enough, "steal"  creative design/graphic  concepts from beautiful sites,  .and apply your programming skills to bring forth great functionality, 
Etin (f)
Re: Website Review - Just Nigeria Entertainment
« #11 on: October 08, 2007, 11:07 PM »

@juintade

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But lets face it, if you can't take insult and crticism then I suggest you don't ask for website review, i do apologise seriously for my previous post and for this one.

Insult is an English word which means to treat or speak to insolently or with contemptuous rudeness; affront.

Criticism on the other hand means the act of passing severe judgment; censure; faultfinding.

As a professional Test Analyst I can assure you that reviewing a website is not equal to being insulting and no one has to take your insults. It is very possible
 to be objective without resulting to abusive words.
I find this:
Quote
Honestly, let me start by apologising if you think i insulted you, I do seriously apologise.

the opposite of :

Quote
If you are intelligent enough you would notice that I did not design the blog, idiot it was done on google platform, hence my dog would not be able to desgin that.

juintade (m)
Re: Website Review - Just Nigeria Entertainment
« #12 on: October 08, 2007, 11:22 PM »

@poster

just passing my time, but i am glad u are responding. lol

I said put 'ALL' you css in an external file. I am intelligent enough to see that you have an external file, but a mixture of HTML and css still mixes on a page(and i wont be surprise if there are more)

the page i am referring to is: http://www.justnigeriaentertainment.com/j_cat.php?cat_id=2

<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1" />
<title>Just Nigeria Entertainment | Musicians</title>
<link href="models.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" media="all" />
<style type="text/css">
<!--
.style10 {
   font-size: 24px;
   font-weight: bold;
   color: #000000;
}
-->
</style>
</head>

<body>
<table width="900" border="0" align="center" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="0">
  <tr>
    <td colspan="3"><link href="models.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" media="all" />
<style type="text/css">
<!--
.style2 {color: #FF9933}
-->
</style>
<table width="900" border="0" align="center" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="0">
  <tr>


hope you can check the codes and lets see who is in reality



Quote from: Afam on October 08, 2007, 10:56 PM

I agree with you on this one. I have perfected the art of accepting criticisms just as I have perfected the art of responding to insults and believe me I know the difference between the 2.


wont we all like to say have perfected the art of accepting criticism and responding.lol
juintade (m)
Re: Website Review - Just Nigeria Entertainment
« #13 on: October 08, 2007, 11:38 PM »

@etin

my excuse always is that english is not my first language. So i guess i should revise my state to
"if you cant take crticism dont ask for review" excluding the insult. thanks for that.
Egavlas (m)
Re: Website Review - Just Nigeria Entertainment
« #14 on: October 09, 2007, 02:56 AM »

Hi afam,

just look for a  graphic designer and do a sort of collabo with the person since your forte is programing.

Entertainment is what it is *Entertainment*.

Most entertainment sites lay a lot of emphasis on the aesthetics and all the glitz.

Its not a news publishing site and thats probably why you are getting all the bashing.

The design has to be entertaining. Good luck
Afam (m)
Re: Website Review - Just Nigeria Entertainment
« #15 on: October 09, 2007, 08:22 AM »

@juintade,

Thanks for the styling comment, will remove them as the css page contains all the styling I may need. My mistake for not removing them before now.

Your comment on use of english being an excuse is nonsense, you don't insult and at the same time want to compare insult with criticism.

@Salvage,

Thanks. Any link to an entertainment website you have seen that the design is cool?

As regards a graphic designer, until I see a good one I won't gamble with getting one as many people claim to be graphic designers and yet don't have any to show. One should be able to show at least a sample of work done otherwise you will end up paying people for doing nothing.

@boraddo,

Thanks. I believe that is the surest route now as I can easily recreate any design even though coming up with designs is not my area.
Afam (m)
Re: Website Review - Just Nigeria Entertainment
« #16 on: October 19, 2007, 04:47 AM »

I guess it pays to accept criticisms even harsh ones with open mind as I have come to agree with almost all the criticisms on this site and decided to go back to the drawing board.

Can anyone take a look at the site and comment on it, functionality wise.

I am certain the site is not perfect and as such there is room fro improvement but the focus remains having a single portal where information on anything entertainment can be accessed.

www.justnigeriaentertainment.com
smartsoft (m)
Re: Website Review - Just Nigeria Entertainment
« #17 on: October 19, 2007, 06:36 AM »

haba ! his not a designer but a programmer what i undertand about afam is that he likes doing his stuff himself,  haven't you heard this before ? "if you want something to be done good, do it yourself." so it just that you guys don't understand who he his well. as for me i know him anyway.

Abeg oga afam continu ja re at least the justwebservice website his a nice concept from him
Afam (m)
Re: Website Review - Just Nigeria Entertainment
« #18 on: October 19, 2007, 11:36 AM »

@smartsoft,

I think harsh criticisms sometimes are better than friendly ones and one should avail himself or herself the opportunity of facing them.

As a programmer I can replicate any good design although coming up with designs isn't my take so things will only get better after all the world is moving towards simplicity and functionality as far as web projects are concerned.
somze (m)
Re: Website Review - Just Nigeria Entertainment
« #19 on: October 19, 2007, 02:42 PM »

Its too official . . . if you know what I mean  Wink
Loosen it up a bit

Header
  • The look of the title is boring, you need to change that
  • Dont like the fonts
  • Dont like the menus, shorten them and use drop down menus. Also the spacing between them are not equal
  • The search box is much too large, check other music sites and see what i mean
  • Take the login . . . to the extreme right

Finish with the header and lets take a look at the rest of it.
onydchic (f)
Re: Website Review - Just Nigeria Entertainment
« #20 on: October 19, 2007, 03:08 PM »

Hm, where to begin. As can be expected Nairaland. Useful reviews are rare and far-between. I usually dn bother reviewing such sites, but you seem like you want to make a difference so,

First, I believe what's killing many nigerian websites is this mentality of multi-tasking and it's-mine-so-ill-do-it-alone. If you know you have weaknesses in design, then why don't you get someone who's focal point IS design, instead of creating something's that sub-par, and justifying yourself?

The site, I don't know. If you don't have an eye for aesthetics at all, then you can't understand the way i feel. EVERYTHING's WRONG. If it has all the functionality in the world and it's not easy on the eyes, people will get bored and walk away, not expectin much. Kinda like a bashed up car with fancy features.

1. The colours. What exactly is the colour scheme? I always say this, before u start throwing up a css, it helps tp create a graphic of what you ultimately want the site to look like. Photoshop is my tool of choice. Play around. Try to avoid using so many unrelated colours. Cos thats the only way i can describe using orange and maroon in one place. Try online colour scheme choosers if your not too good with complimentary colours.

2. The gradient header and footer thingy? No. Just no. Nothing screams unprofessionalism like graphics that look like they were created in MS Paint.

3. The different navigation bars are inconsistent in width. Why aren't they straight and alignned at the edges?!?

4. Fonts too big and too drab. Refrain from using Arial. It's easily one of the dullest fonts EVER. IMHO. Try stuff like Tahoma, Verdana, Georgia, and Trebuchet MS for dynamic text, then try other fonts for headers titles that won't change often (which can be saved as images). http://dafont.com. Just dont go crazy.

5. It's boring. Thought it was an entertainment site? Add more graphics, use rounded edges for corners, put images, SOMETHING. I dont think you've visited enough sites, or you would have seen what im talking about.

6. For goodness sake please do away witht that HUGE orange ad. Ads shouldnt be so distracting from the content. It's annoying.

7. Just start design again. I didn't talk about functionaity cos thats not my area. I strongly suggest getting a graphic person.

Peace.

http://onydchic.blogspot.com
http://aboutdisgirl.deviantart.com

Afam (m)
Re: Website Review - Just Nigeria Entertainment
« #21 on: October 19, 2007, 06:26 PM »

Quote from: somze on October 19, 2007, 02:42 PM
Its too official . . . if you know what I mean  Wink
Loosen it up a bit

Header
  • The look of the title is boring, you need to change that
  • Dont like the fonts
  • Dont like the menus, shorten them and use drop down menus. Also the spacing between them are not equal
  • The search box is much too large, check other music sites and see what i mean
  • Take the login . . . to the extreme right

Finish with the header and lets take a look at the rest of it.


Thanks for those comments, I will change some of the things you pointed out especially the 'too official look'.

You and I know that you cannot satisfy every one and online people will never like the same thing no matter how you try to find a common denominator, this is a fact of life so we must live with it.

Once again, thanks.


Quote from: onydchic on October 19, 2007, 03:08 PM
Hm, where to begin. As can be expected Nairaland. Useful reviews are rare and far-between. I usually dn bother reviewing such sites, but you seem like you want to make a difference so,

First, I believe what's killing many nigerian websites is this mentality of multi-tasking and it's-mine-so-ill-do-it-alone. If you know you have weaknesses in design, then why don't you get someone who's focal point IS design, instead of creating something's that sub-par, and justifying yourself?

The site, I don't know. If you don't have an eye for aesthetics at all, then you can't understand the way i feel. EVERYTHING's WRONG. If it has all the functionality in the world and it's not easy on the eyes, people will get bored and walk away, not expectin much. Kinda like a bashed up car with fancy features.


1. The colours. What exactly is the colour scheme? I always say this, before u start throwing up a css, it helps tp create a graphic of what you ultimately want the site to look like. Photoshop is my tool of choice. Play around. Try to avoid using so many unrelated colours. Cos thats the only way i can describe using orange and maroon in one place. Try online colour scheme choosers if your not too good with complimentary colours.

2. The gradient header and footer thingy? No. Just no. Nothing screams unprofessionalism like graphics that look like they were created in MS Paint.

3. The different navigation bars are inconsistent in width. Why aren't they straight and alignned at the edges?!?

4. Fonts too big and too drab. Refrain from using Arial. It's easily one of the dullest fonts EVER. IMHO. Try stuff like Tahoma, Verdana, Georgia, and Trebuchet MS for dynamic text, then try other fonts for headers titles that won't change often (which can be saved as images). http://dafont.com. Just don't go crazy.

5. It's boring. Thought it was an entertainment site? Add more graphics, use rounded edges for corners, put images, SOMETHING. I don't think you've visited enough sites, or you would have seen what im talking about.

6. For goodness sake please do away witht that HUGE orange ad. Ads shouldnt be so distracting from the content. It's annoying.

7. Just start design again. I didn't talk about functionaity because thats not my area. I strongly suggest getting a graphic person.

Peace.

http://onydchic.blogspot.com
http://aboutdisgirl.deviantart.com



Thanks for your comments. Your preferences will certainly not appeal to many people all over the world so you must also realize that what you prefer may be what others dislike.

I clicked on your blogs and wanted to see one or two things I could pick from there but the color combinations were harsh to my eyes. Does that mean that you don't know how to choose colors? Maybe that is not the case so my point is that as regards preferences especially with colors there will never be an agreement except for what I believe remains the best in the world - black text on white background because that combination is the most readable combination that cuts across both old and young people as regards the eyes.

The content in bold above is interesting and I will use this opportunity to discuss them.

First, I believe what's killing many nigerian websites is this mentality of multi-tasking and it's-mine-so-ill-do-it-alone. If you know you have weaknesses in design, then why don't you get someone who's focal point IS design, instead of creating something's that sub-par, and justifying yourself?

Your belief is wrong because you don't know why a dedicated web designer is not working on the project. I have setup web projects for clients in Nigeria, UK and the US and the websites are doing well. I believe so much in simplicity and functionality and on the web these are the things that matter. Websites that are not task focused don't survive.

To make things easier, point to an entertainment website that you believe you like based on your own preferences so that others will look at it and learn from the site. It is very possible that I did not search enough but I doubt if you have an entertainment website that incorporates as many features as what you have on the site.

The site, I don't know. If you don't have an eye for aesthetics at all, then you can't understand the way i feel. EVERYTHING's WRONG. If it has all the functionality in the world and it's not easy on the eyes, people will get bored and walk away, not expectin much. Kinda like a bashed up car with fancy features.

Just kindly point me to a website where EVERYTHING IS RIGHT and we will take it from there.

Believe me, I have taken your advice as regards what I could change on the website but those things I have strong reasons to object to I have equally stated so do not imagine that I do not appreciate your comments, I do but we must be realistic about our expectations.

Thanks for your time.
my2cents (m)
Re: Website Review - Just Nigeria Entertainment
« #22 on: October 19, 2007, 06:39 PM »

All,

Let's not forget, anyone who gets this web solution is not bound to the design.   Just like joomla, I would imagine that Afam will allow the client buying this to customize it.

The point of this site, in my opinion, is the functionality.  I would probably look more into that and not the design.  Again, referring to joomla (I can say this cos I am currently learning how to customize it), it's all about the functionality and how you can best leverage it to meet your needs.  In my opinion, the functionality is solid.  Just like the Just Web Services software which he practically gave someone on this forum for free, I think for the amount of work he put in, he did great.

As always, my 2 cents.
uspry1 (f)
Re: Website Review - Just Nigeria Entertainment
« #23 on: October 19, 2007, 10:59 PM »

Maybe they do not know the different between graphical entertainment site and entertainment portal site.

Afam, I do believe in simplicity and functionally to bring customers attractively.

Good job in programming on entertainment portal site. If graphic design is not your bag, i suggest to have partner with artistically visual designer who know how to incorporate your programming dynamically.

Like me in the past,  I was hired by old-fashioned traditional graphic designer who do not know nothing about web programming---all i do is sliced his graphic work to be employed actions/behaviors resulting in my programming on the website much easier and quick-turnaround project. He does not want to upgrade his graphic skills dramatically due to his age---near retirement.

He paid me so handsomely that was suppose 50/50 or 70/30 split, it was my 100% earning, because he was the one sent me 18-months accelerated Visual Communication school. After I earned my 2004 bachelor degree with my 3.90 GPA Summa Cum Laude replacing my 1999 Web Development certification, he disappeared with no forwarded address that i wanted to thank him.
Afam (m)
Re: Website Review - Just Nigeria Entertainment
« #24 on: October 20, 2007, 04:21 AM »

Quote from: my2cents on October 19, 2007, 06:39 PM
All,

Let's not forget, anyone who gets this web solution is not bound to the design.   Just like joomla, I would imagine that Afam will allow the client buying this to customize it.

Thanks for your comments but something tells me not to sell this, maybe www.afamite.com that is being redesigned gradually.

I hope to retire from active web development at age 40 so would not mind making advertising money from the site all the time. Grin

Quote from: uspry1 on October 19, 2007, 10:59 PM
Maybe they do not know the different between graphical entertainment site and entertainment portal site.

Afam, I do believe in simplicity and functionally to bring customers attractively.

Good job in programming on entertainment portal site. If graphic design is not your bag, i suggest to have partner with artistically visual designer who know how to incorporate your programming dynamically.

Like me in the past,  I was hired by old-fashioned traditional graphic designer who do not know nothing about web programming---all i do is sliced his graphic work to be employed actions/behaviors resulting in my programming on the website much easier and quick-turnaround project. He does not want to upgrade his graphic skills dramatically due to his age---near retirement.

He paid me so handsomely that was suppose 50/50 or 70/30 split, it was my 100% earning, because he was the one sent me 18-months accelerated Visual Communication school. After I earned my 2004 bachelor degree with my 3.90 GPA Summa Cum Laude replacing my 1999 Web Development certification, he disappeared with no forwarded address that i wanted to thank him.

Thanks for your comments. I believe your first sentence summarizes the whole issue.

Basically all the entertainment websites I have been asked to visit don't have much to offer apart from say a flashy home page. From soundcity.tv to mtvbase.com the story if the same, others implement basic forum and news sections apart from pictures of artistes and non dynamic chart system.

Simplicity and functionality will rule the web (it is already doing so right now) and what this means is that your website must be fast, easy to use, useful etc

I am on the look out for a good designer not just someone that knows how to use flash because I can use flash well.

Many thanks for your time and good luck.
onydchic (f)
Re: Website Review - Just Nigeria Entertainment
« #25 on: October 21, 2007, 02:40 PM »

I admit im a bit fascinated by your reply. I dont claim my blog is perfect ,  but white text on black background is as stark a contrast as black text on white. Besides, I'm aware there are problems with my design, and you're the one that asked for a review.

If you're not going to take advice in good faith, why ask for it? You're doing that jusification thing again. I dont have a problem with functionality. I'm sure your site is swimming with it.  My point IS that it LOOKS POORLY designed. There are a lot of design errors you really should take into account. Did you even read the other points I mentioned?

Honestly I cant really think of an entertainment site, right now cos I dont visit many, but visit sites like Technorati, Netscape, Facebook, hell, even Google. Flash and colours arent flying across the page, but they look like the layout was well thought through. Tables are aligned,  ads are non-distracting, pictures are adequately padded, colours are consistent. And you know what? They are functional. Highly functional.

Let's not get carried away with this 'functionality is key' concept. Your site still has to look appealing.
Afam (m)
Re: Website Review - Just Nigeria Entertainment
« #26 on: October 21, 2007, 05:55 PM »

Quote from: onydchic on October 21, 2007, 02:40 PM
I admit im a bit fascinated by your reply. I don't claim my blog is perfect ,  but white text on black background is as stark a contrast as black text on white. Besides, I'm aware there are problems with my design, and you're the one that asked for a review.

I asked for a review, I got them, agreed with many and objected to a few. Asking for a review does not mean that all the comments must be accepted or that feedbacks must be correct.

My comment on your blogs was to show that you can never have any consensus on what the best design is or would be even if you tried to have very basic denominators.

Quote from: onydchic on October 21, 2007, 02:40 PM
If you're not going to take advice in good faith, why ask for it? You're doing that jusification thing again. I don't have a problem with functionality. I'm sure your site is swimming with it.  My point IS that it LOOKS POORLY designed. There are a lot of design errors you really should take into account. Did you even read the other points I mentioned?

Again, I don't know if the only way you will believe that I took your advice if for me to agree with everything you stated. I won't do that because I have clearly pointed out what I object to and why.

If it is poorly designed as you claimed why don't you point to a website that you think is cool by your own standards. My dear, we all have things to learn from one another and believe me no one in the area of web development or web design can claim to know it all.

Quote from: onydchic on October 21, 2007, 02:40 PM
Honestly I can't really think of an entertainment site, right now because I don't visit many, but visit sites like Technorati, Netscape, Facebook, hell, even Google. Flash and colours arent flying across the page, but they look like the layout was well thought through. Tables are aligned,  ads are non-distracting, pictures are adequately padded, colours are consistent. And you know what? They are functional. Highly functional.

Let's not get carried away with this 'functionality is key' concept. Your site still has to look appealing.

So, visiting Technorati, Netscape, Facebool and Google will bring ideas that will turn the poor design into a good design even when these sites were set up for entirely different purposes using different web strategies?

I am not against the site looking appealing but a website that is not appealing but highly functional is far better than a website that is very appealing but not functional. On this statement lies my idea of a successful website.

This is supposed to be an entertainment portal where users can and should find information easily without any problems.

Many thanks for your time but I am not bound to agree with everything you put down just as you obviously disagree with some of my positions.
somze (m)
Re: Website Review - Just Nigeria Entertainment
« #27 on: October 22, 2007, 09:16 AM »

have you made any changes to the site?
Afam (m)
Re: Website Review - Just Nigeria Entertainment
« #28 on: October 22, 2007, 12:20 PM »

Quote from: somze on October 22, 2007, 09:16 AM
have you made any changes to the site?

Considering the fact that you were one of those that offered criticisms I had thought your best route would be to check the site to confirm if changes have been effected or not.

So, saying YES or NO does not make sense as the link to the website is clear and functional.
somze (m)
Re: Website Review - Just Nigeria Entertainment
« #29 on: October 22, 2007, 12:25 PM »

Afam
The day you will change eh, I'll think it was your sister doing the posting  Tongue

Na wa o, I'm actually helping you here ok? I'm not getting paid and i'm not jobless. Get that in your head and we can move on  Angry

I'll click the link 
onydchic (f)
Re: Website Review - Just Nigeria Entertainment
« #30 on: October 22, 2007, 02:36 PM »

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Na wa o, I'm actually helping you here ok? I'm not getting paid and i'm not jobless. Get that in your head and we can move on 

@ somze
i don't understand o.

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So, visiting Technorati, Netscape, Facebool and Google will bring ideas that will turn the poor design into a good design even when these sites were set up for entirely different purposes using different web strategies?

I am not against the site looking appealing but a website that is not appealing but highly functional is far better than a website that is very appealing but not functional. On this statement lies my idea of a successful website.

This is supposed to be an entertainment portal where users can and should find information easily without any problems.

Many thanks for your time but I am not bound to agree with everything you put down just as you obviously disagree with some of my positions.


Afam,
u realise you've got some attitude problems, right?

I've given reviews to other people on this site, and i never got this kind of attitude. I don't care if you agree with all of my points, but your replies are bad. Like i said before, if you don't want the truth, why are you asking for it? You've managed to give lip to everyone that has tried to help you out. It's childish and ungrateful. Yes, your site is 'functional', WE GET IT. But are you the first person? There are 100s out there, and yours will never get far if it can't stand out. I'm very aware those sites I put up aren't entertainment sites, and i said so before. If you could get off your high horse for a moment, you would see that I was pointing you, however, to sites that had millions of users nonetheless, and got far on minimalist designs and high functionality. And that's the issue. I wanted you to take a cue from there. It doesn't have to be an enertainment site.

So please get over your pride, or whatever it is that's ailing you and stop attacking me, and everyone else for that matter.
Afam (m)
Re: Website Review - Just Nigeria Entertainment
« #31 on: October 22, 2007, 03:33 PM »

Quote from: somze on October 22, 2007, 12:25 PM
Afam
The day you will change eh, I'll think it was your sister doing the posting  Tongue

Na wa o, I'm actually helping you here ok? I'm not getting paid and i'm not jobless. Get that in your head and we can move on  Angry

I'll click the link 

I cannot change from good to bad.

I never claimed you were getting paid neither did I state that you were jobless. My post was straight to the point. You reviewed a site and after some days rather than check the site to see if the site effected changes you were asking if the changes have been effected.

Quote from: onydchic on October 22, 2007, 02:36 PM
@ somze
i don't understand o.


Afam,
u realise you've got some attitude problems, right?

I think I agree with you that I have some attitude problems but yours is worse. You did a review, I agree with some and disagreed with others and you turn around to get angry. What does that make you? Someone without attitude problems or what?

Quote from: onydchic on October 22, 2007, 02:36 PM
I've given reviews to other people on this site, and i never got this kind of attitude. I don't care if you agree with all of my points, but your replies are bad. Like i said before, if you don't want the truth, why are you asking for it? You've managed to give lip to everyone that has tried to help you out. It's childish and ungrateful. Yes, your site is 'functional', WE GET IT. But are you the first person? There are 100s out there, and yours will never get far if it can't stand out. I'm very aware those sites I put up aren't entertainment sites, and i said so before. If you could get off your high horse for a moment, you would see that I was pointing you, however, to sites that had millions of users nonetheless, and got far on minimalist designs and high functionality. And that's the issue. I wanted you to take a cue from there. It doesn't have to be an enertainment site.

May be the people you've given your type of reviews agreed with everything you stated whether you were right or not, sorry, I am not that type. I do give reviews to websites too and even to foreigners so do not mistake my asking for review for not knowing what works and what doesn't work on the internet.

What is the truth? You jump from one issue to the other. Let me put it bluntly, you are aware of all the best ways to design a website and yet you have failed to implement any of them on your blogs, why? Are you comfortable with sub standard websites while advising others?

Make no mistake about it, I give as much as I take. I have treated your comments with respect and if you think that you can bulldoze your way into my accepting comments that are wrong then you better wake up from that sleep.

Quote from: onydchic on October 22, 2007, 02:36 PM
So please get over your pride, or whatever it is that's ailing you and stop attacking me, and everyone else for that matter.

I never attacked you, I usually respond to posts in kind.

Pride? If that was my problem I wouldn't ask for reviews. With my level of experience on the web and programming I could churn out code like mad without asking anyone for feedback.

However, I know that 2 heads are better than one, hence my decision to always ask for reviews for projects I set up but never for even a second think that I must accept all the feedback whether they make sense or not.

The problem we have in Nigeria is that we always want to advice people but almost never ready to accept advice.

My advice to you is this, before you accuse anyone of anything check whether you are the source of the problem because sometimes our attitudes will blind us to the extent that we only see faults of others while assuming that we are perfect.

If you cannot handle sincere comments then don't bother helping people with your advice.
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