The Many Faces Of The Nigerian Prostitute - Agaracha Must Go!

Are you jealous of them?

Maybe you want the prostitutes to be banned because they are making money and you are not.  Leave them alone.

Thanks Skidoc. Seun has no clue!

Prostitution is a form of work.  Work is all about providing a service that someone wants.  The men want sex and the prostitutes are providing the sex for a fee.  That is work.  It is better for those men to sleep with prostitutes than to ruin the lives of young girls who are not prostitutes by seducing them just to get sex.

Yep,  drunk, dizzy, both, or just more interested in shock tactics.

In anycase, he does make a valid point ie that it's a form of work.

So, Seun, how about the sugar-daddy and 'Abuja Babe' syndrome? I'm interested in your unique take on that one. 

What I can infer from your posts above is that:

1.) Because this moral decadence called prostitution seemingly protects minors/young girls, then it is okay. Note the word "seemingly" because your theory is not practical. The presence of prostitution does not protect any young girl at all.

2.) When the young girls grow older, they can also become prostitutes so that they can in turn protect their younger ones as well. And it goes on and on like that. Huh?

You say they are providing a service that someone wants and we should leave them alone. But I know you can never be happy to have any female member of your family do that kind of work. In essence, your take on this is that "As long as no female member of my family is doing it, they can carry on, let's leave them and mind our own business. I don't care. ."
This is total selfishness.

In view of the fact that it is highly unbecoming of an intellectual like you to hold this shallow point of view, I would discard your previous posts on this topic and assume you were sleep-typing.

The grown-up prostitutes know exactly what they are doing.  They have considered the risks and benefits and concluded that their profession is one worth pursuing.  So who am I to pour sand in their garri?  This is not selfishness, this is called minding your own business. 

We need to learn to mind our own business in this country.  For instance I am an atheist, and some people say they want to force me to be going to church.  Is that love, or is it intolerance?  Same thing applies to prostitution and homosexualism.  If the prostitutes are being forced into prostitution, that's a different matter.  But if they are choosing it on their own volition, please leave them alone.  Let them carry on with dignity.

Actually Seun, it is everyones business, directly or indirectly it does comes around.

I wholly agree with skidoc that it is morally decadent. And I denounce it.

However for the sake of this, here's what I say to those who think this is viable work and should be approached as such.

Because of the potential public threat (as in spread of disease) in this profession, I believe that if anyone chooses this type of work, then they should be (1) Publicly Registered, and their HIV/AIDS + other STD status made known. Their client list should also be made public (2) They should be held responsible if their services become injurious to another person. I would hate to think that an innocent by-stander (example my wife) could be potentially harmed because a service I unethically chose to purchase or freely indulge in was (unbeknowst to me) defective.

We can't go around serving nerve gas to people even if they are willing to pay for it so why should these people be allowed to serve up potentially dangerous products to an unsuspecting market.

And yes, this is US-centric but I can't even unknowingly buy pesticide that might injure my child or my pet. It has to be disclosed. If you are talking business, then OK, let's treat them as a business. Regulate!

Oh, and BTW, we are begging people to help us combat HIV/AIDS in our country but we don't want to work together to curtail the spread (shaking head in disbelief). 

http://allafrica.com/stories/200603170429.html

"Campbell said Approximately, $163.1 million is also to be provided this year, through the President's Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief,  The $163.1 million to be provided this year through the President's Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief, aims at providing comprehensive HIV/AIDS prevention, treatment, and care programming. Under the plan, Nigeria received $86.3 million in 2004 fiscal year and more than $100 million last year." 

Campbell said "the disease has reached pandemic proportions, with an estimated 3.6 million Nigerians infected. This is the largest burden of HIV/AIDS in the world after South Africa and India."

If you start cracking down on prostitutes, all you will do is drive them underground where you won't be able to reach them to encourage them always to protect themselves.  In their desperation for money, since they have been deprived of their means of livelihood, it will be easier to convince them to have sex without protecting themselves.  It is reported that 83% of sex workers in Nigeria now insist on condoms.  We need to figure out how to increase that number to 100%.  I don't believe in depriving people of their means of livelihood as long as they are not harming others.  Forced prostitution is bad, teenage prostitution is bad, but leave the grown-ups alone.

This is the point I'm trying to make. They are harming others! And seriously too.

Long answer to your question Seun: Prostitutes insisting on using condoms is a step in the right direction but it is not fool-proof so the risk of infecting (harming) others is still there.

I think seun is right in this issue. Educate them to use condom and don't deprive them the means of their survival. Indian girls are going through the same situation now. Microsoft and wife advised them to use condom. The women were proud prositutes and i think its kind of legal in india,

If u don't like it, just go your way, as simple as that, There are so many reasons to keep prostitution of which i will mention few

- Seun said that instead of sleeping with innocent girls, sleeping with these women can reduce the chance of sexually transimitted deases

- There is nothing like cheating involved becasue u sleep with them knowing that there is no string at attached

- Man no be wood, if a man is single and don't want to mess up with innocent girls emotion, prositutes are the answer

- Some people enjoy multi partners and that is their choice

- Prositutes do escort services for occasions, it makes a guy look good when he goes out on vacation with a girl, or would u just go alone if you're single? its gona get boring, we all know it

- Even though these are true, I personally will not sleep with a prostitute becasue it is against my moral stance, however i will not prevent others who want to, it is a matter of choice,  and everyone is a sinner no matter the way u look at it

Yep. ,  its not a fool proof method of not infecting everyone because. . . . . . you can get HIV lots of other ways.  Guess what would've happened if every single person having sex with anyone else disclosed whether or not they had a disease, and everyone got monthly checkups for such.  Then, everyone having sex can choose not to have sex with someone who has a particular disease/STD/etc. 

Wouldn't this have resulted in a world where it was close to impossible to get AIDs from sex?   If you are attempting to make the argument that enforcing protection when having sex and disclosure is WRONG. . . you clearly don't understand the problem you're attempting to solve.

I'm surprised that many of you have kind words for prostitutes and their profession, so many adjectives here and there have been used to qualify things that should be frowned at. I believe everyone has his/her own point of view, but you see, this is a small-scale of what goes on in the Nigerian govt circle. They would rather qualify what they should condemn, and then, we the masses would start complaining, saying that we have a bad government, bad leaders, and be blaming all those politicians for been corrupt etc. What is all these calling-a-spade-an-eating-spoon, qualifying-black-as-grey talk that is going on here? Doesnt it show corruption?

Back to the topic:
@Seun

To say prostitution is a form of work is accepting that armed robbery and thuggery are forms of gainful employment too. The difference is that one is done with consent, the other is by force. A rich man needs thugs to run his errands, and here are young boys who will provide him their service, knowing fully well that in so doing, they might cause bodily harm to humans. Later on, after years of such employment, such thugs in training will now form their own gang too, abi,

Okay Seun, let me put it to you:
should you have a junior/senior sister who has no clue what she wants to do with her life, Instead, you see her in the company of boys/men here and there. Later, you begin to hear people talking about her, about how many men she has slept with etc, You might even hear of her suggar mommy clearing all the deals for her, and your mind bears you witness that she is a prostitute,

please tell me, would you close your eyes at her way of life? Would you rather advise her to continue, make sure that she uses a condom or wont you sit her down and talk reality into her brain? would you feel-alright in her company? maybe she comes to your house to eat or take a bath after a rendezvous with her man? if she doesnt want to listen, wont you call family members into the matter? now, you can continue the mathematics here, now would you still agree that prostitution is a form of work?
I said it before in a previous post, too much of the Western mentality is ruining Nigerian moral fabric. For the fact that prostitution is accepted in the western world doesnt mean that we should accept it.

@seun

Many of these so called agarachas have children. How would you prevent such vile parents from training their children in the way they should go. Could such a prostitute woman give a female child any training that would prevent that child from becoming a prostitute too. I thot its like mother like daughter?

@seun
we should also leave the armed robbers and those draining the nations reserves to carry out their business in peace. What is the definition of "peace", is it immediate or one that wouldnt have future consequences. If we leave prostitutes to carry out their business in peace, then we are leaving Marriages and Families to crumble in pieces

How many of our grand-fathers and grand-mothers would even agree to prostitution? How many of them died of aids?, not even to know what it was? where was STD in their time? At least they married all the wives they wanted to, but at least, their children were not bastards like many walking the streets today. Even Solomon had a lot of Concubines, - on record, which were at the least accounted for,

@seun

ehen, so we are now differentiating between grown-up prostitutes and the young ones:
- that the young-ones don't know what they are doing when they leave home supposedly for school, but go somewhere else?
- they don't know what they are doing, leaving home in a school-uniform, and hiding another scanty attire in their bag?
- they don't know what they are doing by standing on the roadside eyeying potential customers?
- that they don't know what they are doing when they negotiate for the financials?
- in fact they don't even know what they are doing when the passion of sex takes over?
- you know they don't even know what they are doing when they return home and tell lies that they went to school,
yes they don't know what they are doing.

Its only the older prostitutes that know what they are doing. Please, what is the upgrading age when a young prostitute can upgrade and become old, so as to know what shes doing?

I think if you don't pour sand in their garri, you should be held responsible.

And what is our own business - watching the foundation of morality get destroyed?  Cmon, lets wake up. this is why Nigeria is the way it is, because too many people mind their own business.

@babanla
thank you. It is everyones business.

Rather than saying concluding that Prostitution is viable work, rather than encouraging such women/girls to "protect themselves", I say they should be ENCOURAGED to come out of the lifestyle. If something is not good, it should be stopped, not managed. A sick person should be encouraged to get well, and not to manage the sickness.

@seun
Seun, for saying this one, I really feel like vomitting,
okay so daddy is going out on Saturday night and he says to mommy: "sweet-heart, im going out. I want to go and find a prostitute to sleep with tonight, don't bother waiting for me, i'll meet you and the kids in Church in the morning".[i][/i]
 And if you were the pastor of such a church and you knew that your beloved brother was in such a bondage, how would you advise him? whether you are a Christian or Muslim, even if you are an Aethist, would you just say, 'O boy, always use condom o'

Seun, I believe such is an ideal scene for a normal family. Would you wish such for anyone?

If you don't believe in ,
- then don't deprive armed robbers from their means of livelihood,
- don't even deprive women than are into child-trafficking of their means of livelihood, since the children are the source of income, abi, and
- don't deprive all the looters in nigeria of their means of livelihood,
-  don't deprive the 20-naira policemen of their means of livelihood,
- don't deprive rapists of their means of enjoyment,
- don't deprive kidnappers and ritualists of their means of livelihood, you might want to also suggest some potential humans to such as a means for better livelihood,
- don't deprive the delta peeps taking hostages everyday and destroying oil pipes of their means of livelihood,
- don't bother to deprive the oil companies of their means of livelihood, since they pollute drinking water, destroy farmlands etc, in their quest for petroleum. Even with all their effort, fuel price still increases, but don't deprive them of their means of livelihood
- anyone can help me continue this list,

If there are no prostitutes, we wont be talking of managing diseases. Can we totally prevent the prostitution scourge, Yes, but it will take real hardwork. How many are ready to do it? not those who think its ok for others to engage in and not for themselves.  Is prevention not better than cure? would you rather opt to cure AIDS than to prevent it? rather than encourage those women to insist on a condom, encourage them to opt for a better way of living, NOTE: Prostitution is the product of a wasted mind. THose women harm themselves, their soul, their body, their spirit, they harm their clients, they harm their neighbours, their friends, their relatives who will live in shame and their unborn children. they harm everyone, even you.
There is no prostitute that had something more dignifying to do that wont quit prostitution. Ofcourse, many are enslaved already, but at the subconcious of every human being is the quest to live a dignified life. So rather than justifying their behaviour and their way of life, those of us who are opportuned to live a better dignified life than they do(and for which we can call them prostitutes), the onus is on us to encourage them to leave the cadre of shame, and climb up into the ladder of dignity. Regardless of the money, a woman selling peanuts on the street for a daily survival, to me is of more repute than a prostitute selling her body for money.

@larger20
I wonder, could give your own flesh and blood, a female relative of yours one of the reasons you have posted so that she could take your advice and join the prosti-wagon?

If you wont open your eyes and mouth and take poison, if you wont give it to one of your own, whether or not he/she be physically blind to have sight and knowledge of the repercussion of your gift, why would you give such a gift to another human like you for which you see his/her acceptance of your gift as of no consequence to you?

I hereby rest my case!!!

eh, and kimbawhat other means of earning a living do you have for these people?

Perhaps I could pay them to be my personal rugs, lying down on the ground so I can walk on them and not get my shoes dirty.  Before you can go around encouraging all the prostitutes around you to try their luck at other things . . . you kind of need to have things for them to try.

Or I suppose you'D rather they starve than earn a living. . . because you have not proposed one possible alternative for a person with no other marketable asset and no funds with which they could learn anything else.

Or let me guess. . . you will say they should save the money they earn as prostitutes and use it towards a degree. . . which requires them to work as prostitutes. . . .