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Jakumo (m)
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Nubian there is a lot of truth to your assertion that a rich individual of any race would generally be targeted by far less prejudice than a poor person. Some years ago a top-ranked black American boxer was asked by a reporter if racism still amounted to a concern in his life. He replied that his mountain of dollars was green, and that was the only color that mattered in the final analysis.
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Free (f)
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To be honest this is a ridiculous conversation. Someone goes out a with a couple of grouchy black women and decides to let them speak for an entire continent and the black women i know this guy who is only attracted to white girls just because they dress skimpy, am not going to get mad at that, Its really is about who you love, not their race, but no one should look down on the black woman for being strong and standing up for her self. And not all white women are quiet, understanding, easily walked over. One must realize that in countries where black people have gone through dehumanizing, intransigent and debilitating racism, there is a historical memory of pain that is passed on. Not too long ago, even in the 80's there were places that a black man was in danger if he were seen with a black woman. The problem wasn't so much when a black woman was involved because she was not seen as a threat to the white men, All in all just wanted to clarify that black women should not be looked down upon in comparison to other races, we deserve to be elevated and treated like the queens, mothers, saviors that we trully are.  (theres noting like a strong black women)
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Free (f)
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the proud black women, aint nuttin gon change that
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Yewandé (f)
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Hi ya all I'm a white woman and I agree with Chinani, I don't give a monkeys toss what colour people are as its whats in your heart that really counts I think the post at the top gives a view from both sides but an angry one. @ Seun I'm not offended in any way by what Ive read since some of it is in fact true as white people don't seem to set such store by virginity which is lucky since if we did, none of us would be married, its about the last thing we find important about a relationship and I certainly wasnt a virgin when I got married but Ive been intrigued by the cultural difference of this aspect, are we more easy than black girls? I have never slept with a girl so I couldnt hope to answer that one, but I will say this, Ive been approached by more than ONE black man in the last year and one is actually married and just wants a fling but I said no of course, though I'm curious about his , lunchbox  and wonder if its true what us white women all hear :-) (On that score I shall be honest and say I might venture there next if I get the chance as I'm now newly separated) . I'm a bit shocked that statistically we kill our kids more!! Mind you I have a 14 year old, I can see where that might be attractive I think Davidylan was trying to even the score a bit myself, in favour of the white ladies but I thought the first post was in fact as was said, very insightful, fancy saying white women are better than black!!!  I can't imagine even THINKING like that, ignorance is truly bliss, bless her heart eh? . Lunchbox aside a black man who was too self assured he was "all that" would bore me rigid and Ive yet to meet one who wasnt obsessed with the size of his privates, I live in hope
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Jakumo (m)
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Yewande if the myth about black mens' endowments were true, there wouldn't be many male porn stars of other races. I suppose there could be some very realistic looking third-leg prostheses out there, to account for the random racial make-up of porn star swordsmen, but more likely any given man's genetic luck of the draw in dong size bears no relation to his racial origin. Someone ought to conduct an exhaustive survey some time, but the trouble with that would be getting men to tell the truth about how they measure up.
I'm afraid I'll be writing you a citation for again repeating that wild claim that white girls are more promiscuous than girls of other races, because of the known fact that the teen-age pregnancy rate for African Americans stands at about 4 times the pregnancy rate for caucasian Americans teenagers. That figure hasn't changed for years, and it obviously stands at odds with any morality charges aimed at white American teenage girls.
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Linda M. (f)
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;DThe originator of this post says, "Don't be mad with us White women because so many of your men want us, " My friend, quite frankly, while you were writing this message, many of your husbands, brothers, fathers (YES - FATHERS!!!), boyfriends and male friends were getting it on with US! Sistuh, we have options, too! You are not alone when it comes to "taking a walk on the wild side"! You listed some Black men who have married and/or dated White women. Well, here's my list: White men who have married and/or dated Black women: Vic Damone (Diahann Carroll) Hugh Grant David Bowie Ron Pearlman (he was the beauty, YOW!!!) Mick Jagger Robert DeNiro Christopher Knight Ted Danson Black women who have married and/or dated White men: Iman Janet Jackson Mariah Carey Grace Jones Pearl Bailey Diahann Carroll Shari Belafonte People get with people because they like them. Which is why I have had the pleasure of dating men of all races - White, Black, Hispanic, Hispanic/Asian, American Indian, I liked them all. To whomever wrote this: you, too, can be as happy as I have been if you stop seeing your (and other White women's) relationships as some twisted form of competition, and start to enjoy the people in your lives for who they are.
Peace, Linda D. Martin
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TYPOP (m)
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Hi ya all I'm a white woman and I agree with Chinani, I don't give a monkeys toss what colour people are as its whats in your heart that really counts I think the post at the top gives a view from both sides but an angry one. . . . @Yewandé How come you answer to Yewandé if you are white? I thouhgt that was a yoruba name (yoruba is a tribe from Nigeria)
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Yewandé (f)
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@Jakumo  Hey man I don't watch Porn so I shall take your word for that one, I don't know nor care of the proprtion of white and black ldies who get pregnant since to me that doesnt reflect the truth as to who is more promiscuous (sp) Maybe the figures you recounting the US relate to abilty to pay for contraception not promiscuity? Ive never been to the US either I just say as I see and know as a white woman, Ive been as promiscuous(sp) in my life as the next man and I played them at their own game for a while( what fun NOT) my husband when we met was a virgin (not that he told me till later)and he darn well knew I wasnt and he liked that! I think I'm less critical of this aspect in other people since its not really any of my business who sleeps with who and how many times. Ive only been pregnant four times by the same man all but the first was planned, but Ive had sex just a teeny bit more than four times! ( with more than four men even) Education money and availablity of contraception counts for a lot, maybe this hides so called "loose women" maybe it just allows women to play the same game as men play (some men) but pregnancy is a marker for very little. In my opinion the white lady quoted in the first post has issues in her heart, I would hope she was not representatiive of your average white woman, if she said what she said to me, Id tell her as much myself. Jakumo, I'm disheartened by what you say about black men not all packing a six pack sized member, I shall now have to re-think my strategy then! Typop I changed my name by deed poll from my english name to make it legal here. I picked it because I liked it I like Africa and because of its meaning, its maybe a boring story and not maybe one for this thread!
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Yewandé (f)
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@Typop Where the hell did your name come from then LOL
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TYPOP (m)
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@Yewandé Just wondering. 
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chinani (f)
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@ Yewande I was a keystroke away from spraying hot venom on Jakumo for his post but you retorted everything he said to my satisfaction. And you were much nicer than I was prepared to be.  Also, many doctors/anthropologists, etc. have tried to measure & compare privates sizes but the trouble is that apparently men measure from different "origins" and angles when measuring. I read that some start measuring from the "base" of the shaft and some don't. YeaI think that explanation makes more sense if you're a man or are more familiar with penises than I currently am. Also, no one can decide whether or not to measure an erect or "resting" privates and then when to measure on it. They say that penises that are bigger when "resting" don't "grow" as much when erect. But since they were bigger begin with they could still be bigger or the same size as a privates that is smaller when "resting". The myth is not based on observation though. It's based on fertility charms "found" in Africa by colonists/missionaries. The fertility charms take many forms like wooden statues of men with exaggerated penises are popular all of Africa and South America. Since Europeans believed that the climate changed a human's blood they decided that Africans were always "hot" (i.e., sensual, oversexed, hypersexual, etc.) Not surprisingly, the same thing is thought of Latinos. Not w/ privates size but as passionate lovers. I'm all for experimentation if you can handle it mentally, physically, and all. So you should "try" it. Not endorsing sex just observation.  There's a book out called Hung : A Meditation on the Measure of Black Men in America. I read an excerpt and it was very interesting. What I've heard is that black men who aren't as well endowed try much, much harder to please b/c their conscious of the public obsession w/ their privates. I live in America by the way, so maybe it's just a yankee thing.
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Yewandé (f)
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@ Yewande I was a keystroke away from spraying hot venom on Jakumo for his post but you retorted everything he said to my satisfaction. And you were much nicer than I was prepared to be.  Also, many doctors/anthropologists, etc. have tried to measure & compare privates sizes but the trouble is that apparently men measure from different "origins" and angles when measuring. I read that some start measuring from the "base" of the shaft and some don't. YeaI think that explanation makes more sense if you're a man or are more familiar with penises than I currently am. Also, no one can decide whether or not to measure an erect or "resting" privates and then when to measure on it. They say that penises that are bigger when "resting" don't "grow" as much when erect. But since they were bigger begin with they could still be bigger or the same size as a privates that is smaller when "resting". The myth is not based on observation though. It's based on fertility charms "found" in Africa by colonists/missionaries. The fertility charms take many forms like wooden statues of men with exaggerated penises are popular all of Africa and South America. Since Europeans believed that the climate changed a human's blood they decided that Africans were always "hot" (i.e., sensual, oversexed, hypersexual, etc.) Not surprisingly, the same thing is thought of Latinos. Not w/ privates size but as passionate lovers. I'm all for experimentation if you can handle it mentally, physically, and all. So you should "try" it. Not endorsing sex just observation.  There's a book out called Hung : A Meditation on the Measure of Black Men in America. I read an excerpt and it was very interesting. What I've heard is that black men who aren't as well endowed try much, much harder to please b/c their conscious of the public obsession w/ their privates. I live in America by the way, so maybe it's just a yankee thing. This book is a neccesary item for my bookshelf, its kind of legendary stuff to know about black mens thingys but I saw one on a post here I think it was "would you go for an action man or one witha big privates" something like that anyway that photo I thought proved my point in two ways 1) More than a mouthfull 2) obsessed owner so proud he had to post it! but I didnt blush  *only a bit*  "Not endorsing sex just observation" Chinani iHey darling, if I was to have one of these to observe Iassure you Id soon have seen enough for the next stage to begin! LOL Ive just woken up cold on a settee and Ive missed BST so Ive lost an hour and when I have woken up properly I shall come back and reply sensibly, what a nice reply, and you came to my defence ( or was going to bless your heart  )
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Jakumo (m)
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Chinani if it is not asking too much, could I at least have a little hot venom spewed on me. It sounds like it might be pleasurable in a kinky sort of way. Also I am a little curious as to how it is that I qualified for a venom bath. Was it because I revealed that not all black men wield a foot-long dong ? If so please accept my most heartfelt apologies for casting doubt on such a time-honored myth.
I hereby volunteer to perform a few thousand hours of community service, if that will spare me the full wrath of your judgement, and I also pledge never to say another disparaging word about black pekkers, whether they be monstrous or mouse-like, till my dying day, or till you state here in writing that my sins are forgiven.
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Yewandé (f)
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LMAO@ Jakumo  I thibnk you should photograph your pecker so we can best judge your assertion on this myth or no myth Its Mothers day in England so I have to be busy, I shall come back though Chinani, 
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nubian (m)
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Chinani if it is not asking too much, could I at least have a little hot venom spewed on me. It sounds like it might be pleasurable in a kinky sort of way. Also I am a little curious as to how it is that I qualified for a venom bath. Was it because I revealed that not all black men wield a foot-long dong ? If so please accept my most heartfelt apologies for casting doubt on such a time-honored myth.
I hereby volunteer to perform a few thousand hours of community service, if that will spare me the full wrath of your judgement, and I also pledge never to say another disparaging word about black pekkers, whether they be monstrous or mouse-like, till my dying day, or till you state here in writing that my sins are forgiven.
JAKUMO - i think the kinky sort of punishement chinani should give u is measuring your launch box and sending the results to yewande, !!!!, if u like a little spanking chinani may also give u some - on your bare butt - she wearing all the kinky stuff , i see ladies wear in all those kinky x rateds. yewande - i find it most intruiging and interesting , u being a wht briton and bearing a typical yoruba girls name  . As for your curiousity about the size of the blk lunch box - i hope u will be bold and open enough to tell us when u finally find out your self .I must say am however apprehensive because u may need to experiment with quite a number to have a good research paper and come up with a final analysis.This is because u may need to try about 5 - 10 blk lunch boxes , for some are big, some are small and some are medium.But if u try about 10 , then u can judge if they are generally bigger than wht lunch boxes  . Eye actually blive there are size differences between the lunch boxes of the different races - i think am sure the oriental asians pack a very, very small punch .Ive noticed this from x rated films. and ill tell u, quite a number , i have watched  . Am also curious about oriental asian women - i wonder what they will be like inbetween the sheets - but they are sooooooo flat assed , thats my problem - and i generally like my partner to have some booty behind  . Therefore i have not been keen on discovering what the jap , chinese , malaysian thai or what ever lady will be like - if however any crosses my path carelessly be sure this lion will pounce and find out what slant eyed meat tastes like  . As for the wht lady , ive found she is very similar to the blk girls .The few differences i noticed are : The milky skin colour instead of the chocolate/cocoa colour .The honey pot with straw/silky hair instead of the curlier pubic hair of the blk woman - the smaller backside , but then even some blk ladies do have small back sides.I found no other "TECHNICAL" differences or perhaps i wasnt observant enough. Maybe jakumo and some other guys / girls know of differences i didnt notice Yewande, i wait to hear very soon when u find out - if its myth or reality that the blk man is bigger down there 
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chinani (f)
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@ Jakumo No, you no longer get or deserve a hot venom bath. Though perhaps you never deserved it and I am a bit too, er, passionate.  My potential response had nothing to with any privates talk. In fact, I think we said similar things on that issue though I would never use the wankers of porn stars as evidence or proof positive.  @ Nubian You've seen quite a lot of porn. Though I'm sure those XXX videos were just field research.  But, wouldn't the female equivalent to privates size be clitoris size? Not the size of the booty!? Ha! Men! How I adore them. Instead of looking at the anatomical equivalent, they look at what pleases them most. Well, I can not blame you. Speaking for your future girlfriends let me say that even if you don't compare the size of clitorises by race, do give the clit some attn.  @ Yewandé  Happy Mother's Day! 
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chinani (f)
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I am that for sure. So I'm now printing out your ice cream notes for future instruction. Did I just type that ALOUD!?! 
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Zahymaka (m)
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In the end, I'll say only love matters -- or an occasion where both sides are in for a fling. I never seem to understand why people are so particular about "race" -- I've been attracted to people from around the globe (Chinese, Americans, Romanians, Nigerians, Ghanaians and currently I have a crush on a Nepalese girl).
A man is a man no matter what race he is -- he's still got all the "equipment" and vice versa. As the saying goes, "all women are the same after the sun goes down." It applies to men too.
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Jakumo (m)
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Zahymaka, that saying : " All women are the same when the sun goes down " has a nice ring to it. May I take this opportunity to add the fittingly anonymous quote " Regardless of the color of the wrapping, it is all pink on the inside "
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Zahymaka (m)
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You're very right Jakumo. 
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Yewandé (f)
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I'm sorry I must have forgottento track this thread! Wow I can't believe what I have missed!!!! Nubian "yewande - i find it most intruiging and interesting , u being a wht briton and bearing a typical yoruba girls name . As for your curiousity about the size of the blk lunch box - i hope u will be bold and open enough to tell us when u finally find out your self .I must say am however apprehensive because u may need to experiment with quite a number to have a good research paper and come up with a final analysis.This is because u may need to try about 5 - 10 blk lunch boxes , for some are big, some are small and some are medium.But if u try about 10 , then u can judge if they are generally bigger than wht lunch boxes " . Pardon me if I take my time to get used to being alone first, before I rush for a black lunch box  I is a lady you know!!  Would I dream of being open ansd reporting to you when Id sampled at least 10 (once Id recovered LOL)oh go onthen I spose I would for you hehehe I'm post haste to this ice cream post, for sho! I need to have my spirits lifted higher and this sounds like the thing hehehe Chinani I bow down to you girl with this quote " Speaking for your future girlfriends let me say that even if you don't compare the size of clitorises by race, do give the clit some attn." This had me laffing my ass off, way to go girl, Zahymaka Yeah as long as they "go down" a lot I'm cool!
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la_vivi (f)
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ONLY A BLACK WOMAN Can work full time while finishing school, raising respectful and intelligent children, be active in the PTA, be the pastor's secretary, and the choir president and a make it all seem effortless
ONLY A BLACK WOMAN Can make a $1.00 out of 15 Cents ONLY A BLACK WOMAN Can go from the boardroom to the 'hood and "keep it real" in both places.
ONLY A BLACK WOMAN Can slap the taste out of your mouth.
ONLY A BLACK WOMAN Can put a Black man and his non-Black date on pins and needles just by walking into the room. ONLY A BLACK WOMAN Can live below poverty level and yet set fashion trends.
ONLY A BLACK WOMAN Can fight two struggles everyday and make it look easy.
ONLY A BLACK WOMAN Can make a child happy on Christmas Day even if he didn't get a darn thing.
ONLY A BLACK WOMAN Can be admired and fantasized about by men of other races and know that when she does cross over it's done out of sincerity, not a political move. ONLY A BLACK WOMAN Can be 75 years old and look 45!
ONLY A BLACK WOMAN Can make other women want to pay plastic surgeons top £££ or $$$ for physical features she was already born with.
ONLY A BLACK WOMAN Can be the mother of civilization.
So Black Sisters We re blessed
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nubian (m)
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@la vivi – I am a black man who loves his race passionately; I also admire and respect the fortitude and strength of the black woman. I feel a lot of pain at the problems of the black race. I therefore feel we should not get sentimental and “boast” about the problems of our race , it makes no sense if we “boast” about the difficult and poor socio economic conditions of 80 % of the black race. This is not a thing to be proud of at all – we must face the truth, pick our selves up by the boot straps and better our lives – not boast about things we should be ashamed of  - HERE ARE MY VIEWS ABOUT SOME OF YOUR STATEMENTS - ONLY A BLACK WOMAN Can work full time while finishing school, raising respectful and intelligent children, be active in the PTA, be the pastor's secretary, and the choir president and a make it all seem effortless Our women shouldnt be working full time, and trying to finish school : this is the hall mark of a person "who did not make hay while the sun shined", - someone who did not go to school at the right time ,propably because her folks could not afford it , or she wasnt just serious with scholl when she was younger , or she got pregnant too early.This is a common problem in black families - black parents should only bring the number of kids they can care for in to the world , black kids should be serious with school not doing drugs , getting into gang warfare ,and all kind of shit that distracts black youths from school.Black girls should stop geting pregnant while in school , forcing them to drop out or break their education for years - this bad stereotype of the black race has to stop, we need to stop it - not boast about it - combining school with work is not an easy task ,no matter how effortless the black woman makes it seem 
ONLY A BLACK WOMAN Can make a $1.00 out of 15 Cents ONLY A BLACK WOMAN Can go from the boardroom to the 'hood and "keep it real" in both places.
just what do your mean by the "hood" - the black hood brings up images of dangerous black neighbourhoods - drugs, guns , gang warfare by teenagers , poverty etc - our hoods should improve to become at least upper middle class neighbourhoods with "aje bota" children - we have to work hard to improve our socio economic status.Why should a black woman come from a board room( bieng in a board room implies she is well educated and upper class) to a typical steroetype black hood ? . Black hoods have to change for the better - our destinies lie in our hands - the white boys wont improve our hoods for us.
ONLY A BLACK WOMAN Can slap the taste out of your mouth.
Are you saying the stereotype image of the black woman as - agressive , argumentative and confrontational is true  
ONLY A BLACK WOMAN Can put a Black man and his non-Black date on pins and needles just by walking into the room. ONLY A BLACK WOMAN Can live below poverty level and yet set fashion trends.
All women of all races can put their men on "pins" and "needles" if they find them with a date of another race. Can live below poverty line and set fasion trends - sweet heart , why must we live below poverty line lets strive to break this poverty line jinx among our people - black women don't deserve poverty - we must enhance our living standards. Besides the truth is - you can set fasion trends if you are poor - fasion is a glamourous industry - the most fasionable things cost a lot - we would simply be consigned to the dustbin of "cheap fasion" 
ONLY A BLACK WOMAN Can fight two struggles everyday and make it look easy.
just why should life be tougher for our women , such that they fight two struggles everyday ; is this something to boast about  ??
ONLY A BLACK WOMAN Can make a child happy on Christmas Day even if he didn't get a darn thing.
why should our children not get a darn thing on christmas day ?? - why should we be soooo poor that we give our kids a poor christmas - baby we need to improve our earning power so that our kids have better childhood memories of christmas - not memories of "how hard mummy tried to make the christmas seem ok even though we had nothing" - our kids don't deserve that kind of childhood , and black people can be rich if they work hard - lets shake of this stereotype of poverty - not boast about it 
ONLY A BLACK WOMAN Can be admired and fantasized about by men of other races and know that when she does cross over it's done out of sincerity, not a political move.
All men fantasize about women of all races - its sexual racial curiousity - i even think that women too fantazize about men of other races.As for cross over reasons -its a mixed bag of love , curiousity or a political move - it just depends on the individual lady - but i agree that lots of them white boys fantasise about blk women - what i can't stand is their sexual explotitation of blk women - u know what i mean ?? ONLY A BLACK WOMAN Can be 75 years old and look 45!
lol - sweetheart - are you saying the white sisters age faster ?? - me thinks its just a function of genes , how well a lady fights aging and well or harshly life has treated her. 
ONLY A BLACK WOMAN Can make other women want to pay plastic surgeons top £££ or $$$ for physical features she was already born with.
Dont bank on this baby - beauty is in the eye of the beholder - not all women of other races would want the features of a black woman - just as not all black women would want the features of women from other races - are you sure all other women of the other races want our typical - thicker lips , coarse curly hair ,big bum bum , and fleshier build , - do you think we want the skinny , flat bottomed , very thin lipped ,chicken like skin of the white woman ?? or the tiny , extra flat assed , slant eyed loks of the oriental woman - beauty is in the eye of the beholder my dear la vivi - i am sexualy curious about other races , but the ultimate for me is the fleshy , bigger assed , juicy lipped generally bigger busted blk woman - THE NUBIAN QUEEN - THE EBONY PRINCESS - They come in all shades of black from sooty black , to milky caramel , from cocoa brown to coffee colour .However to say that all others want our feautures is self deciet 
ONLY A BLACK WOMAN Can be the mother of civilization.
So Black Sisters We re blessed - My dear vivi - black sisters are blessed , but lets be realistic and down to earth - it makes no sense to boast about our short comings - BLACK SISTERS I LOVE YA ALL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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chinani (f)
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@ NubianJust wanted to add a few things: I never got anything on Christmas  b/c my parents don't believe in the commercialism of that holiday. To them, it's a religious event. So there's nothing wrong w/ a child not getting a present. He/she will grow to understand it and will prolly not be materalistic. Don't want to be nitpicky but that part made me think of myself. Also the 2 most popular plastic surgery procedures for women right now are (1) breast agumentation and (2) butt implants. While white women get the most plastic surgeries. Other popular procedures are BOTOX and --- (forgot the word but it's those lip injections that give you pouty lips). So you see, it's not incorrect to say that "white" women try to achieve a "black" form w/ a firgure (say 36-24-38) and the "thick" (read: full) lips. Also, hair weaves, which were popularized by black women are all the rage right now, just look at HOLLYWOOD and the fashion runways. Well, that's my contribution. My out.
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Jakumo (m)
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Nubian, I look forward to reading your posts for they never bore and ALWAYS educate. Thank you for that point-by-point rebuttal that so comprehensively shreds La-Vivi's romanticised poetry of meaningless and irrelevant generalizations. You are a gentleman and a scholar indeed.
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chinani (f)
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You are a gentleman and a scholar indeed. "A gentleman and a scholar indeed"? Dear friend, would you also like his hand in marriage; he's a bachelor. j/k 
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Jakumo (m)
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Chinani, marriage to Nubian is out of the question for me as he happens to be of the wrong gender. You will of course be the first to hear if I suffer a brain injury and decide to turn gay, though I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you.
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chinani (f)
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I won't hold my breath. Your objection gender prerequisite is duly noted. Sweetly: You just sounded so smitten. 
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davidylan (m)
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Excellent post @Nubian,
I am growing sick and tired of "strong" black women making false generalisations of how strong they are in the face of "lack and intimidation". Why must poverty be associated with black women?
Why are do more black girls get pregnant and have to drop out of high school? Must a black woman school and work at the same time as when she has kids? where was she when her Asian and white agemates where getting degrees? and as for the big ass and pouty lips, not ALL white women or white men are interested in that and neither are all black men too. i for one like things in moderation!
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