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Horus (m)
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 From this images we see many craft that resemble modern day flying machinesAncient Egyptians were Black Africans,invented aircraft, the theory of evolution and an exact science of precognition and other psychic phenomena. They build Pyramids and temples of knowledges. The Black Egyptians were also 'masters of precognition, psychokinesis, remote viewing and other underdeveloped human capabilities'. Such psychoenergetics was no mere magic but 'an exact science in Egypt'.  Submarine Helicopter These images were found on the ceiling beams of a 3000-year old New Kingdom Temple,
located several hundred miles south of Cairo and the Giza Plateau in Egypt Pharaoh Mentuhotep IISource: http://www.crystalinks.com/ancientaircraft.html |
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mrpataki (m)
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It is bogus to make such a statement on a general scale. However, when compared on certain standards, it can be evidently seen that the Westerners are intelligent than Africans in some respect.
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redsun (m)
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On average,white people are dumber than blacks,that is why in the midst of so-called plenty they still lack,suicide and killing others seems to be the answers to life problems,they are more like robots programme to believe and act the same,that is why they are in perpetual traps of the manufacturers and lenders,a circus world where the mind is stagnant.Blackman problem is just basically brainwashed precedence and antagonism from the same white people,who hate rivals,an outstanding quality of ignorance,always trying to subdue others because it makes them thick,apart from that nothing to offer.Technicality is just a tiny aspect of intelligence,there is more to intelligence than see the eye,
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debosky (m)
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. . . and redsun's incisive and intelligent contribution is to say the opposite - Blacks are more intelligent than Whites! Classic!  the claims of the 'whites' is that the Egyptians were 'white skinned' not black. So the evidence of Horus is not conclusive. Besides, having a better start does not necessarily make you more intelligent, you may just have had less issues such as cold and frost bite to dull your intellect, Africans have had pleasant weather all year round for centuries, and yet no great civilization remains. There is more to this issue that meets the eye - Is Africa's current backwardness linked to lower intelligence, or can it be easily explained away as the 'colonial/slave trade' effect? |
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redsun (m)
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deboski,you are just one them ever faithful believer,what is opposite of what,can you quantify intelligence?if not for fundamental deprivations and make beliefs,like you are made to believe you are dumb,generational curse that refuse to away because you refuse to change.I am not a part of it,i see diffrently,whether you like it or not,and you will be better of,if you do too. Reality is relative.Little suprise,you live in onitsha,which is more like piggery,all you need is common sense to clean up and put it shape,not special intelligence.
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Horus (m)
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the claims of the 'whites' is that the Egyptians were 'white skinned' not black. So the evidence of Horus is not conclusive.
Not conclusive for what?because the white man said so? Whites have an inferiority complex,they know that the Ancient Egyptiant are Black Africans. And the picture below,black or white skin?  Queen Tiye
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redsun (m)
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Thank you Horus,look her thick lips and bulging eyes,black and rugged as ever and proud of it.
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almondjoy (f)
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It is bogus to make such a statement on a general scale. However, when compared on certain standards, it can be evidently seen that the Westerners are intelligent than Africans in some respect.
Thanks for the soft landing. Please make that all standards and all respects for a harder landing towards reality! No sugar coating it. You might want to give your own examples to prove the Laureate wrong you know instead of basing our arguments on primitive sentiments. |
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davidylan (m)
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No argument, ancient Egyptians were black. . . evidence from writings, sculptures and hieroglyphics abound to support that fact.
Are we less intelligent than westerners? Maybe maybe not.
Now lets be truthful to ourselves . . . one thing that makes westerners stand out from us is their level of confidence! It is simply amazing to watch a 5yr old white boy/girl with the kind of confidence i never had when i was 15.
In our society we are taught to bow down to elders, keep silent, speak only when spoken to. We are not encouraged to think in school, exams are all about cram and pour . . . nothing to stimulate the mind and exercise the brain.
The brain is a dynamic organ, the more you exercise it the better it becomes. It is not by accident that virtually everything we call technology today was invented by the white man. Even if you argue that blacks also made inventions the question would be where? Any black man IN AFRICA ever made a scientific discovery?
Why? Because we are not thought to think!!! We leave school and the only thing we think of is money (we pretend and label it jobs), you see engineers in banks, yoruba teachers in Chevron and Economics graduates doing a masters program in computer science just to make money.
Is the white man smarter? No! We are all created equally, however the way we exercise our minds as we develop is what stands the white man out from the black man. They can think, be creative, explore puzzles . . . we consider all that unecessary so long as we "respect" our elders.
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almondjoy (f)
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Red Bullshit!!!!!
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naija_diva (f)
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i bet an oyibo made that test.
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FSU
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The poor man has just apologised on CNN, stating that his comments were misquoted. I had been shocked by his assertions because I know that potential genes for intelligence amongst humans have not been discovered, talk less of being functionally characterised. Recently, the Max Planck Institute for anthropology and primate research discovered genes controlling apects of cognition in humans and our evolutionary ancestors, the great apes. These genes were different between humans and the apes, an indication of our superiority to apes.
The human genome (complete genes) has long been fully sequenced. I do not know if it was an Oyibo or black human whose blood sample was used for the genome sequencing. Until differentially-expressed genes are analysed concurrently from Oyibos and from blacks, and the genes for intelligence functionally analysed from both races, Mr. Cricks assertion remains scientifically baseless.
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almondjoy (f)
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------------And the quest for proof and evidence continues! Now he has apologized according to you, it makes it all go away even when you stand in front of the mirror and are reminded of the first class buffoonery of the "subject race"! No need brov! It stares us in the faces daily---can never hide from it!
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redsun (m)
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almondjoy,you seems to think there is only one pattern of thinking,stagnant mind,what is intelligencel?survival,staying alive whole which everway and multiply,if you wish to.Life is dimentional,you approach it in diffrent ways,but make it yours, because you are the one and only,no body is better than you unless you are a begger,which most black establishments do, due to misconceptions.No one thinking is fallable,imagine what the so-called advancement and intelligence is leading the world to,self-inflicted armagedom, obesity, cancer, a.i.d.s,famine,out right war,not even what we call primates fights the way we do,they are more intelligent than us,because they live in harmony,if not for man that torments them,bloody earthquakes and hurricanes,suicide bombing,paedophila,name it, it is not working.Reinterpret motherfuckers.
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Seun (m)
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Hmmm. Hungry people are less intelligent than prosperous people. Is this even debatable?  |
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beneli (m)
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@ Seun.
Yes, it is debatable.
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redsun (m)
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In the abundance of water,the fool is thisrty,diffrent taste and diffrent lacks.Man will always be a fool to nature,the mystery is life itself,discover.
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redsun (m)
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Thank you davidylan,you said it all.
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Kobojunkie
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No argument, ancient Egyptians were black. . . evidence from writings, sculptures and hieroglyphics abound to support that fact.
Are we less intelligent than westerners? Maybe maybe not.
Now lets be truthful to ourselves . . . one thing that makes westerners stand out from us is their level of confidence! It is simply amazing to watch a 5yr old white boy/girl with the kind of confidence i never had when i was 15.
In our society we are taught to bow down to elders, keep silent, speak only when spoken to. We are not encouraged to think in school, exams are all about cram and pour . . . nothing to stimulate the mind and exercise the brain.
The brain is a dynamic organ, the more you exercise it the better it becomes. It is not by accident that virtually everything we call technology today was invented by the white man. Even if you argue that blacks also made inventions the question would be where? Any black man IN AFRICA ever made a scientific discovery?
Why? Because we are not thought to think!!! We leave school and the only thing we think of is money (we pretend and label it jobs), you see engineers in banks, yoruba teachers in Chevron and Economics graduates doing a masters program in computer science just to make money.
Is the white man smarter? No! We are all created equally, however the way we exercise our minds as we develop is what stands the white man out from the black man. They can think, be creative, explore puzzles . . . we consider all that unecessary so long as we "respect" our elders.
But DavidLyan, Doesn't the fact that the ancient Egyptians were actually black and intelligent sort of boot your point then that it has to do with where you are raised and all that ?? IF it is the case that the Ancient Egyptians were brought up to think for themselves and they actually put it to use. WHY DID THEY STOP?? @DavidLyan , and Why is Egypt of Today not as great as the Egypt of yesteryears?? Let me use a better example, even with slavery and what not. The black community in America produced a lot of intelligent and superb minds. These were people raised in slavery, people who knew nothing but slavery But they were able to make a huge impact on the world, regardless of the situation around them. People like Carver ( peanut man), Sourjourner truth , Booker T washington and the other lady who happens to be the first American woman (even though she was african american) to become a millionaire back then. Is the level of intelligence really based on your external factors such as surroundings or how many computers you have access to as a kid?? Or is that just HOGWASH??? |
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Kobojunkie
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Rubbermaid (f)
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Are Africans Genetically Less Intelligent Than Others
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DNA pioneer suspended after he's quoted saying blacks not as intelligent as whites. This is not the first time a celebrated intellectual has made such a comment about the black person's intelligence. In this recent (scandalous) instance, Nobel laureate James Watson tells British newspapers that:
he is “inherently gloomy about the prospect of Africa” because “all our social policies are based on the fact that their intelligence is the same as ours – whereas all the testing says not really”, and I know that this “hot potato” is going to be difficult to address. His hope is that everyone is equal, but he counters that “people who have to deal with black employees find this not true”. He says that you should not discriminate on the basis of colour, because “there are many people of colour who are very talented, but don’t promote them when they haven’t succeeded at the lower level”. He writes that “there is no firm reason to anticipate that the intellectual capacities of peoples geographically separated in their evolution should prove to have evolved identically. Our wanting to reserve equal powers of reason as some universal heritage of humanity will not be enough to make it so”.
While I am angered by Watson's suggestion, the scientific part of me still wants to know the facts! What do the facts say about the African's intelligence?! Do facts suggest that we are genetically, intellectually inferior?
I love the fact that instead of REACTING LIKE SOME RAGE-A-HOLIC, you instead wanted to get down to do some research on what facts there are out there for and against his claim. That alone shows you if nothing else, you are an intelligent person @RubberMaid |
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almondjoy (f)
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almondjoy,you seems to think there is only one pattern of thinking,stagnant mind, what is intelligencel?survival,staying alive whole which everway and multiply,if you wish to.Life is dimentional,you approach it in diffrent ways,but make it yours, because you are the one and only,no body is better than you unless you are a begger,which most black establishments do, due to misconceptions.
No one thinking is fallable,imagine what the so-called advancement and intelligence is leading the world to,self-inflicted armagedom, obesity, cancer, a.i.d.s,famine,out right war,not even what we call primates fights the way we do,they are more intelligent than us,because they live in harmony,if not for man that torments them,bloody earthquakes and hurricanes,suicide bombing,paedophila,name it, it is not working.Reinterpret motherfuckers.
Ah-ah? What is all this?  Is this your interpretation of my point of view? No further comments then!  |
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Horus (m)
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This is all about the colonial mindset. We must remember that the Nazis said the same thing about the Jews during their oppression. This is no different. People of African heritage are in a state of continuous oppression by the West and the oppressors have always used academia as a tool and justification for their condescension.
The West, beginning with Ancient Greece, has STOLEN much of their traditions of which they are so proud from Africa, particularly Egypt. Now they have the audacity to lie and to look down upon those from whom they have ruthlessly and wickedly stolen. May justice rain upon them for their vicious acts.
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redsun (m)
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By and by,it is appalling the state of africa and black world as a whole,america,caribean, europe,south america,australia,india,name it,backwardness and antagonism seems to follow us,no doupt,people think we are sub-humans which we are not, it is just moral laxity and heaven knows what.
I think IQ test should be introduced in all school and establishments in africa,it kind of help people to understand what the brain stands for by emphasing on it and putting to task,it helps to identify the ones that need intensive couching which almost everybody needs,especially public office holders.
I never new how technical i was,until i started trying.if you shy away from it,then it seems as if you can't do it.Creativity is the bane of li
fe,continuity,it doesn't have to sophiscated,but let it be.
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Kobojunkie
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By and by,it is appalling the state of africa and black world as a whole,america,caribean, europe,south america,australia,india,name it,backwardness and antagonism seems to follow us,no doupt,people think we are sub-humans which we are not, it is just moral laxity and heaven knows what.
I think IQ test should be introduced in all school and establishments in africa,it kind of help people to understand what the brain stands for by emphasing on it and putting to task,it helps to identify the ones that need intensive couching which almost everybody needs,especially public office holders.
I never new how technical i was,until i started trying.if you shy away from it,then it seems as if you can't do it.Creativity is the bane of li
fe,continuity,it doesn't have to sophiscated,but let it be.
What do you understand Dawson said ?? @Redsun. Do you think he was speaking of IQ scores??? Does Intelligence to you have to do with IQ scores?? |
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redsun (m)
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Brain power,the brain controls your intelligence,if it is not working,it means you are not exercising it,it's dormant,so.
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Kobojunkie
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Brain power,the brain controls your intelligence,if it is not working,it means you are not exercising it,it's dormant,so.
I don't believe that is what Dawson was speaking of though @Redsun. If you read one of the articles, I believe the one posted in the times, there was a paragraph about how the rest of the world has been approaching africa's need for AIDS from one way and how the world may need to realize that they may need to approach things differently. That is not to say that africans do not have book smarts of brain power or africans are morons. NO, that is not what the man is talking of at all. I will give you an example, in the western world, there is this idea that if you give a man fish, you feed him for a day but if you teach him to fish, you feed him for a lifetime. That model seems to work well for them but has so far not worked in many of the african nations mainly cause of poor management and corruption. I am of the belief that we would rather become rich today than invest in working to make tommorow better for ALL persons. Now, I am not sure if his theory has any genetic roots to it but I believe we all already see the trend in black nations where most of them have continued to do so poorly even with advancement in technology and science. I am sure he has met Africans with High IQ levels and what not but I do not believe that is remotely close to what he is refering to. We have been given fish and also know how to fish, but why are we not skilled fishermen |
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redsun (m)
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In as much as dawson could be a crazy supremacist scientist,he is a realist too,any right thinking person might have the same quetion in mind with the situation of africa and black world in general.
But i see it as more of continued brainwashing,persecution and suppression of black man,because there is something in blackman that is very natural and supreme that whiteman can never have,not withstanding his quest for universal domination,which in real sense for the wise is just mirage.
Even with our little despostion,they are still mad at us,imagine if we have it all as a race,the world will be at peace due to our unoffensive nature.Arise blackman arise.
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redsun (m)
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Even if they call us monkies,what do we call ourselves?even monkies are smart enough to evolve in their own natural enviroment,left to me white man does not have any natural trait of any known creature,born to hate,destroy and despise,they are more like alians to nature.The question is,do have to take people like that seriouslly or ourselves and make the children proud.
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Kobojunkie
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In as much as dawson could be a crazy supremacist scientist,he is a realist too,any right thinking person might have the same quetion in mind with the situation of africa and black world in general.
But i see it as more of continued brainwashing,persecution and suppression of black man,because there is something in blackman that is very natural and supreme that whiteman can never have,not withstanding his quest for universal domination,which in real sense for the wise is just mirage.
Even with our little despostion,they are still mad at us,imagine if we have it all as a race,the world will be at peace due to our unoffensive nature.Arise blackman arise.
I am glad you see the truth in what he said there. I am not really one of those who believes in white supremacy and that whole WHITES ARE OUT TO GET US VICTIM MENTALITY either. I believe they are human beings like you and I and we all have the same capabilities and endowments regardless of genetic makeup. Sort of like the Parable of the ten Talents in the Bible. Just cause a man has less talents than another does not mean he can only achieve less than the other guy can. I was not raised believing that I am black and hence different from another, so I do not share the whole WHITE opression and brainwashing beliefs. Infact from where I stand, I actually see it as the blacks placing that burden on their own selves with their belief that that exists and I am one crying that we need to stop trying to blame the whites and focus all that energy more on fixing what is wrong in our house. I see Africa and I do not see whites made africa but africans reduced africa to what it is today. How people keep bringing whites into the equation daily ?? only God knows how they arrive at such. I believe the man hit on a nerve but I also believe denying a problem exists and insulting him and calling him names for pointing out the obvious is not going to make the problem go away within the next 10 years. If we instead take it on ourselves to make sure that in 10 years, this man and so many others who think like he does but have not been able to say it, will have to change their minds, I believe that is the best way for us. |
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nwando
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Any one that agrees with that assertion ought to be shot!
While I know that intelligence is a whole lot more than passing exams,I have schooled in Naija and I have schooled in the USA and believe me if I studied for my exams in Naija like I did here,I would have flunked out of the University in the first year.
I have met enough intelligent black men and women to know better than agree with this nonsense.
Do we have other major problems in Africa of course yes but definitely not due to lack of intelligence.
Let those like almondjoy who are ashamed of their blackness change name and bleach their skins
or turn into Michael Jackson kpa kpa
The fact that we have tons of black scientists,inventors and notable men and women in noble professions prove me right.
If given the same platform,blacks have certainly outperformed many of their white counterparts in many areas.
I don't know the circles some of us move in so some could be talking from personal experience.
I don't have that experience.
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Kobojunkie
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Any one that agrees with that assertion ought to be shot!
While I know that intelligence is a whole lot more than passing exams,I have schooled in Naija and I have schooled in the USA and believe me if I studied for my exams in Naija like I did here,I would have flunked out of the University in the first year.
I have met enough intelligent black men and women to know better than agree with this nonsense.
Do we have other major problems in Africa of course yes but definitely not due to lack of intelligence.
Let those like almondjoy who are ashamed of their blackness change name and bleach their skins
or turn into Michael Jackson kpa kpa
The fact that we have tons of black scientists,inventors and notable men and women in noble prefessions prove me right.
If given the same platform,blacks have certainly outperformed many of their white counterparts in many areas.
I don't know the circles some of us move in so some could be talking from personal experience.
I don't have that experience.
The Man was not speaking of Book Smarts or intelligence as in number of professionals or whatever it is people keep repeating. Can't we just read what he REALLY SAID FOR WHAT IT IS and look at it from where it really should be?? Anyways, as for agreeing with him, I can not cause I do not know if the problem we seem to have in africa has anything to do with genetics and considering the reaction so far, I hope not cause I already know a lot of people who would take advantage of it and basically claim it is reason for them to remain where they are. But I am mainly for us to stop reacting to this as if we are hooligans and start reacting the right way to situations such as these. People usually work to PROVE their detractors wrong but instead we rush to call for an apology and at the end of the day, instead of taking advantage of an opportunity to STAMP OUR FEET AND SAY NO MORE AND ACTUALLY WORK TO GET OUT OF THE GUTTER WE ARE IN, we go back to our plush comfort rooms as soon as the situation has died down , waiting for the next person to come by and say exactly the same thing so we can silence him again and go back to the same old seat, nothing changed. |
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nwando
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The 79-year-old geneticist said he was "inherently gloomy about the prospect of Africa" because "all our social policies are based on the fact that their intelligence is the same as ours - whereas all the testing says not really".
He said he hoped that everyone was equal, but countered that "people who have to deal with black employees find this not true". @ kobojunkie what is this? they are not 'frying hamburger 'smart? |
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