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yemivictor (m)
Why Do Igbo Girls Use Paper?
« on: October 19, 2007, 01:17 PM »

This thread isn't meant to be derogatory in any way but just out of curiousity, and of course, with all due respect to our eastern brothers and sisters, i had the priviledge of serving my fatherland in the east and from my observation, i noticed that igbo people usually do not usually make use of conventional toiletries in the convenience.

In other words, am saying that they make use of paper, and the health hazard involved in this is that the used pieces of paper are usually stored in a basket beside the water closet. That is for those that don't have out-houses i.e. toilet facilities seperate from the main builing, usually pit latrines or what is known as "shalanga" in western parlance. Out-house users are also not exempted.

I mean, even in homes where their parents are graduates and you'D expect some level of exposure and hygiene, right? It's the same story.

All attempts at making enquiries about this failed. So, am throwing this open to Nairalanders for delibration. please remember, this thread is not meant to be offensive in any way and meaningful contributions are encouraged. Thank you.
Busta (f)
Re: Why Do Igbo Girls Use Paper?
« #1 on: October 19, 2007, 04:22 PM »

Quote from: yemivictor on October 19, 2007, 01:17 PM
this thread is not meant to be offensive in any way and meaningful contributions are encouraged. Thank you.

Kanda generalizing if u ask me.  Undecided
Siena
Re: Why Do Igbo Girls Use Paper?
« #2 on: October 19, 2007, 04:57 PM »

@ Yemivictor: And your research was based on your own experiences, huh?

A pretty narrow minded conclusion to draw.
omoge (f)
Re: Why Do Igbo Girls Use Paper?
« #3 on: October 20, 2007, 02:55 AM »

wow!!!! blimey!!! wonder shall never end.

Poster,

some use water to wipe after off loading,  so what do you say of that?
nwando
Re: Why Do Igbo Girls Use Paper?
« #4 on: October 20, 2007, 03:07 AM »

could it be that the family you are talking about had no water to flush so they use paper?
Now a thread about Igbos have resulted from this. Shocked Shocked

I heard Yorubas are very dirty and use their bare hands to wipe their baby's bottom after a bowel movement and would just wipe the hands off on their wrapper and sell you akara with the same hand.
I even hear they have a long open gutter between the "face me I face you "yard and after defecating they just pour a cup of water to move the doo doo away from their doormot.
Now is that a fact?

If indeed a yard had the above quality and a dirty woman selling akara displayed poor hygiene,does that describe Yorubas?
In other words did she do it because she was Yoruba or because she was dirty?

Now you see how stupid your thread is?
Siena
Re: Why Do Igbo Girls Use Paper?
« #5 on: October 20, 2007, 08:54 AM »

Quote from: nwando on October 20, 2007, 03:07 AM
could it be that the family you are talking about had no water to flush so they use paper?
Now a thread about Igbos have resulted from this. Shocked Shocked

I heard Yorubas are very dirty and use their bare hands to wipe their baby's bottom after a bowel movement and would just wipe the hands off on their wrapper and sell you akara with the same hand.
I even hear they have a long open gutter between the "face me I face you "yard and after defecating they just pour a cup of water to move the doo doo away from their doormot.
Now is that a fact?

If indeed a yard had the above quality and a dirty woman selling akara displayed poor hygiene,does that describe Yorubas?
In other words did she do it because she was Yoruba or because she was dirty?

Now you see how stupid your thread is?

Exactly. Folk just start random threads, without thinking.

@ Yemivictor: I hope you learn something from this, such threads have a habit of snowballing, think, think again, then start a thread.
almondjoy (f)
Re: Why Do Igbo Girls Use Paper?
« #6 on: October 20, 2007, 05:27 PM »

Quote from: yemivictor on October 19, 2007, 01:17 PM
This thread isn't meant to be derogatory in any way but just out of curiosity, and of course, with all due respect to our eastern brothers and sisters, i had the privilege of serving my fatherland in the east and from my observation, i noticed that igbo people usually do not usually make use of conventional toiletries in the convenience.


In other words, am saying that they make use of paper, and the health hazard involved in this is that the used pieces of paper are usually stored in a basket beside the water closet. That is for those that don't have out-houses i.e. toilet facilities separate from the main building, usually pit latrines or what is known as "shalanga" in western parlance. Out-house users are also not exempted.

I mean, even in homes where their parents are graduates and you'D expect some level of exposure and hygiene, right? It's the same story.

All attempts at making enquiries about this failed. So, am throwing this open to Nairalanders for delibration. Please remember, this thread is not meant to be offensive in any way and meaningful contributions are encouraged. Thank you.

@yemivictor

Thank you very much for this bit of "news" item.  Guys also indulge in this too may I add.  I really needed this to digest my breakfast this morning.  You are a clown! Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin

Well I believe there are "shalangas" in all areas of Nigeria.  Infact, one of my relatives---by marriage----Ibo speaking coincidentally--between--- still has one till today in their family house.  I think I used one when I visited the capital of Delta state. And yes, there were gururu paper wraps all over the place with different tattoos of dried poop all over them. Cheesy


When I was growing up, I had the misfortune of losing my "flashlight" in one of those holes---somewhere in Illah--another igbo-speaking area. Tongue   We had to use "papers" then too.  But I believe we have come a long way from the "shalanga" era.  But I know for a fact that some still exist as of today.  This particular one I speak of ---located at  "cable point"  has not been removed from the Delta state Capital. Since that particular family house is still there! Cheesy

Since there are not many public conveniences along the road in Nigeria, I have had to improvise my own "shalangas" as I traversed the length and breath of Nigeria. On one occasion I realized it was someone's kitchen after I had finished my business.   The was a cooking fire with a pot on it, a few feet away.  May God forgive us all! Grin
Ivvie
Re: Why Do Igbo Girls Use Paper?
« #7 on: October 20, 2007, 09:11 PM »

Give the fellow a break.  He was only asking and sincere about his conclusion.  I don't want to believe he is lying  neither do I want to conclude that it's the practice.  I actually believe his side of the story and a certain group of people carry out this practice.  By the way, it doesn't make one less of a person, does it?
toshmann (m)
Re: Why Do Igbo Girls Use Paper?
« #8 on: October 21, 2007, 01:25 AM »

knowing how sensitive tribe and tribalism can be in nigeria, i don't think one should be a graduate to know that certain words are better left unsaid and certain conclusions (especially stupid and unscientific ones) are better left within one's self.

i ventured into this thread b/c i saw what i thot was some humble honesty in the poster but the poster has just touched a sensitive issue by suggestin, albeit unwittingly that a tribe is filled with nasty babes.

tell that poster that it is not only a wrong conclusion but also she should be more careful in the future with sensitive stuff. but let's keep tribal fire out of this apparently innocent but potentially fatal mistake
rdokoye
Re: Why Do Igbo Girls Use Paper?
« #9 on: October 21, 2007, 03:28 AM »

There's so much hatred in this forum it's unbelievable. Any anonymous visitor scanning through these treads would find it difficult to believe that all the posters are members of the same nation.
Ivvie
Re: Why Do Igbo Girls Use Paper?
« #10 on: October 21, 2007, 03:33 AM »

So, it's true.  I don't know too much about tribalism and its sensitivity but I guess the poster was wise enough to ask at this forum.  

Tosh'

I think you have spoken right.  
nwando
Re: Why Do Igbo Girls Use Paper?
« #11 on: October 21, 2007, 03:43 AM »

Quote from: Ivvie on October 20, 2007, 09:11 PM
Give the fellow a break. He was only asking and sincere about his conclusion. I don't want to believe he is lying neither do I want to conclude that it's the practice. I actually believe his side of the story and a certain group of people carry out this practice. By the way, it doesn't make one less of a person, does it?

Are the people he witnessed using paper to wipe after a doo doo because they are Igbo?
are there no non Igbos that have used paper to wipe
In other words are Igbo people averse to using toilet paper (when star paper mill that makes toilet paper is at Aba)
Can I conclude that all Yorubas shit into the Lagos lagoon or that creeks around Lagos is the Yoruba toilet because some individuals who live around there do so?

beats me that you'll believe a story that makes no sense.
Any one with commonsense that hears such a story should ask themselves "is there anything about an Igboman or woman that forbids toilet paper"

why do I even bother Cool Cool Cool
nwando
Re: Why Do Igbo Girls Use Paper?
« #12 on: October 21, 2007, 03:50 AM »

Quote from: rdokoye on October 21, 2007, 03:28 AM
There's so much hatred in this forum it's unbelievable. Any anonymous visitor scanning through these treads would find it difficult to believe that all the posters are members of the same nation.

Nwanne m it is nauseating.
And as long as I've been here,sadly,its always a Yoruba man or some imbecile called mohadana that comes up with these smear threads about Igbos.
I am sick and tired of these idiots passing off as Igbo experts.

I have heard it all and somehow they all seem to know of my culture more than myself.
yesterday it was Igbo girls like money or Igbos are 419ers,Igbos are ritualists,and Igbos abuse their kids,today it's Igbos don't use toilet paper
Maybe tomorrow I'll hear that Igbos men have large breasts and wear bras.
Ivvie
Re: Why Do Igbo Girls Use Paper?
« #13 on: October 21, 2007, 06:27 AM »

@Nwando

You don't have to perceive it that way.  Have an open heart towards it.  It's just a discussion.  How would you feel if I asked you how jeans felt on your waist when you first wore one (being an African).  More than likely, you wouldn't like it.  This happened to me when I returned to Louisiana after 12 years.  Speaking like a Nigerian with different point of views, I was asked questions like that.  Living on trees, speaking monkey languages etc.  I knew they didn't know any better and I answered them accordingly and warmly.  The same too goes to this fellow asking.  He'D be convinced.  For him/them asking, it means there is a benefit of a doubt somewhere that it may not be true.

Igbo has some significance to american history and to their mind broadness, nigerians are igbos.  Talking about breasts, you sure 'nough don't want to hear what I've been questioned about by a so-called educated white studying biochemistry.

Be positive about most things and be warmly.  You'll be surprised how far this will take you.  One thing you should understand is that for them asking you those kind of questions, it means they have accepted you.  There's still going to be plenty more non-logical question that would need to be answered.  You aren't going to fuss every time and vent your anger openly.  If you happen to resort to that level of judgement, then they have taken the better part of you for the moment.

There is a lot of brotherly love as men in Nigeria or as Nigerians.  Let's exercise it more rather than lashing insults.
earthrealm (m)
Re: Why Do Igbo Girls Use Paper?
« #14 on: October 21, 2007, 07:47 AM »

hmmmmmmmmmmm
nuthing aint impossible in nairaland,
tot u said u visited a family, or rather an ibo family?, y limit it only to gals?

the issue of using paper n using water has com a long way,
its more like any issue of exposure n education, n also poverty,
some folks just can't afford tissue paper u know!, n it cuts across all tribes!!!,

its just like the issue of tampons  n tissue, <naaaaaaaah, i  don't want to go there Shocked
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almondjoy (f)
Re: Why Do Igbo Girls Use Paper?
« #15 on: October 21, 2007, 03:44 PM »

Quote from: Ivvie on October 21, 2007, 06:27 AM
@Nwando

You don't have to perceive it that way. Have an open heart towards it. It's just a discussion. How would you feel if I asked you how jeans felt on your waist when you first wore one (being an African). More than likely, you wouldn't like it. This happened to me when I returned to Louisiana after 12 years. Speaking like a Nigerian with different point of views, I was asked questions like that. Living on trees, speaking monkey languages etc. I knew they didn't know any better and I answered them accordingly and warmly. The same too goes to this fellow asking. He'D be convinced. For him/them asking, it means there is a benefit of a doubt somewhere that it may not be true.

Igbo has some significance to american history and to their mind broadness, nigerians are igbos. Talking about breasts, you sure 'nough don't want to hear what I've been questioned about by a so-called educated white studying biochemistry.

Be positive about most things and be warmly. You'll be surprised how far this will take you. One thing you should understand is that for them asking you those kind of questions, it means they have accepted you. There's still going to be plenty more non-logical question that would need to be answered. You aren't going to fuss every time and vent your anger openly. If you happen to resort to that level of judgement, then they have taken the better part of you for the moment.
There is a lot of brotherly love as men in Nigeria or as Nigerians. Let's exercise it more rather than lashing insults.

Good job--you are so so mature----And don't forget to use a good sense of humour to approach most issues in life! It is not what you are called that matters but what you answer to!  Life is a beach--lay back and relax in the sun!


When you become too sensitive to every issue that is thrown up in your face--it only means there are insecurites underneath you are trying to cover up by being overly defensive!  Life is a sport---play hard while you have all the fun you can!  Nothing is worth the stress!
omoge (f)
Re: Why Do Igbo Girls Use Paper?
« #16 on: October 21, 2007, 05:56 PM »

Paper using is something that's common in Nigeria. I can say so because I have lived in many parts of nigeria. it's very common way of cleaning off the pie hole  Grin

The northerner uses water though some people still use paper  Wink.

I think it is poverty. Person never see money take chop na tissue paper person go buy?  Grin

I'm sure some don't even wipe. Just off load and off you go  Wink
spoilt (f)
Re: Why Do Igbo Girls Use Paper?
« #17 on: October 21, 2007, 06:11 PM »

That one starts such a thread on nairaland is just so downright bizarre! i'm out!
ifyalways (f)
Re: Why Do Igbo Girls Use Paper?
« #18 on: October 21, 2007, 06:25 PM »

poster its better you tell us where you visited,when you visited and how you managed to do your own toilet while there Huh Shocked
romeo (m)
Re: Why Do Igbo Girls Use Paper?
« #19 on: October 21, 2007, 08:15 PM »

what about the men? and the children? or you didn't notice them ? half witted dumb ass!!

tell me your tribe and i will tell you how they do it and i am quite sure that using paper is better than than using bare hand
nwando
Re: Why Do Igbo Girls Use Paper?
« #20 on: October 21, 2007, 08:23 PM »

his name is yemi so I don't think he's from Yenegoa.

wonders shall never end
janami (f)
Re: Why Do Igbo Girls Use Paper?
« #21 on: October 21, 2007, 08:37 PM »

@poster
this is where i will bless u. u shld come to jos and see these girls in action. Maybe someone cn talk to them about a little hygiene Tongue
nwando
Re: Why Do Igbo Girls Use Paper?
« #22 on: October 21, 2007, 08:51 PM »

lets look at his post critically.

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This thread isn't meant to be derogatory in any way but just out of curiousity, and of course, with all due respect to our eastern brothers and sisters, i had the priviledge of serving my fatherland in the east and from my observation, i noticed that igbo people usually do not usually make use of conventional toiletries in the convenience
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Ok here an assertion was made that Igbos don't use conventional toiletries

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In other words, am saying that they make use of paper, and the health hazard involved in this is that the used pieces of paper are usually stored in a basket beside the water closet.


In case you missed it the first time,Mr yemi makes it even clearer.


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That is for those that don't have out-houses i.e. toilet facilities seperate from the main builing, usually pit latrines or what is known as "shalanga" in western parlance. Out-house users are also not exempted.

I mean, even in homes where their parents are graduates and you'D expect some level of exposure and hygiene, right? It's the same story.

It gets even more interesting.
They use the paper in outhouses and in house toilets unlike other Nigerians
secondly,Igbo graduates are not exempt from this type of unhygenic Igbo  ,unheard of in other parts of Nigeria.

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All attempts at making enquiries about this failed. So, am throwing this open to Nairalanders for delibration. Please remember, this thread is not meant to be offensive in any way and meaningful contributions are encouraged. Thank you.

How nice!
You're just carrying out a simple research about this bizzare behaviour of Igbos and since no Igbos have given you a sensible reason why they prefer exercise books to toilet paper,you thought nairaland may help.
You have indeed come to the right place and this Igbo girl is about to take you under her tutelage.
Now listen,here we go!

Once upon a time,a group of Igbos had gone to the toilet.
They sat on the toilet bowl and emptied everything including their ascending and descending colons.
As they picked up a roll of star tissue to wipe,believe it or not the toilet paper grew thorns,teeth,some even grew pointy whiskers.
Before the people could say "okija" the toilet roll grew lips and started talking.
The group all in unison screamed and ran out the loo en masse
The news spread like wild fire from Ogwashiuku to Abakaliki and the king of Igboland made an unchangeable decree
That decree like the law of the Medes and Persians was that no Igbos should ever be caught with toilet paper.


Exercise books and news papers from then on was the order of the day.
Igbo girls even took it to a whole 'nother level  using corn husks sprinkled with  saw dust.

So Yemi,that is the secret revealed this 21st day of October 2007.
I hope I've been of help in unravelling this mystery.

I just hope other Igbos can forgive me for spilling this hidden tribal secret.
Long live nairaland

darfur (m)
Re: Why Do Igbo Girls Use Paper?
« #23 on: October 21, 2007, 09:09 PM »

romeo why did you let off our secret Angry can't you keep ya mouth shut for one second Angry now all these people will know that we use paper in the toilet wherever we may be. even here in london we use paper, those in the US use paper, those who work in the toilet roll factories don't use the toilet roll they produce, they use paper, even andy uba and alex ekwueme, okocha, kanu, onyeka onwenu, ojukwu, pius anyim , darfur, nnamani etc all use paper

romoe why did you let off this secret that has worked for ages Angry

we shall see Angry
nwando
Re: Why Do Igbo Girls Use Paper?
« #24 on: October 21, 2007, 10:47 PM »

actually it was me nwando that let the cat out off the paper bag.
But you can take it out on romeo and his Juliet Grin(nnenne)
romeo (m)
Re: Why Do Igbo Girls Use Paper?
« #25 on: October 21, 2007, 11:02 PM »

Quote from: darfur on October 21, 2007, 09:09 PM
romeo why did you let off our secret Angry can't you keep ya mouth shut for one second Angry now all these people will know that we use paper in the toilet wherever we may be. even here in london we use paper, those in the US use paper, those who work in the toilet roll factories don't use the toilet roll they produce, they use paper, even andy uba and alex ekwueme, okocha, kanu, onyeka onwenu, ojukwu, pius anyim , darfur, nnamani etc all use paper

romoe why did you let off this secret that has worked for ages Angry

we shall see Angry

abeg Sudan see my armpit hair no dey am oooooo Cheesy Cheesy

Quote from: nwando on October 21, 2007, 10:47 PM
actually it was me nwando that let the cat out off the paper bag.
But you can take it out on romeo and his Juliet Grin(nnenne)

hahahaha them go kill you ooo (Nnenne get fans  for this thread oo)
nwando
Re: Why Do Igbo Girls Use Paper?
« #26 on: October 21, 2007, 11:09 PM »

lol
almondjoy (f)
Re: Why Do Igbo Girls Use Paper?
« #27 on: October 22, 2007, 01:02 AM »

These Igbo people don come again oh! Shocked  Even papa biafra "romero" don report for duty!  Biafra warlord! Please everyone has used "paper" at one time or the other in this life time.  Too bad the focus is the "igbos" for the poster.  Nothing to lose sleep over.  Most of the ones making noise here do not even have running water in their villages or the so called cities!--- No be operation "drop and go" una dey practice for there?  No paper sef!

willy*2
Re: Why Do Igbo Girls Use Paper?
« #28 on: October 22, 2007, 10:29 AM »

Quote from: almondjoy on October 22, 2007, 01:02 AM
Most of the ones making noise here do not even have running water in their villages or the so called cities!--- No be operation "drop and go" una dey practice for there?  No paper sef!
Operation drop and go Grin Smiley Smiley Grin
romeo (m)
Re: Why Do Igbo Girls Use Paper?
« #29 on: October 22, 2007, 12:36 PM »

Quote from: almondjoy on October 22, 2007, 01:02 AM
These Igbo people don come again oh! Shocked  Even papa biafra "romero" don report for duty!  Biafra warlord! Please everyone has used "paper" at one time or the other in this life time.  Too bad the focus is the "igbos" for the poster.  Nothing to lose sleep over.  Most of the ones making noise here do not even have running water in their villages or the so called cities!--- No be operation "drop and go" una dey practice for there?  No paper sef!

hmmmm wetin come be your name now? almendra or Almond? when will you stop hiding and come out like men do?

hahahaaha some no get running water and them dey talk about paper  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
laudate
Re: Why Do Igbo Girls Use Paper?
« #30 on: October 22, 2007, 02:48 PM »

Quote from: yemivictor
This thread isn't meant to be derogatory in any way but just out of curiousity, and of course, with all due respect to our eastern brothers and sisters, i had the priviledge of serving my fatherland in the east and from my observation, i noticed that igbo people usually do not usually make use of conventional toiletries in the convenience.

In other words, am saying that they make use of paper, and the health hazard involved in this is that the used pieces of paper are usually stored in a basket beside the water closet. That is for those that don't have out-houses i.e. toilet facilities seperate from the main builing, usually pit latrines or what is known as "shalanga" in western parlance. Out-house users are also not exempted.

I mean, even in homes where their parents are graduates and you'D expect some level of exposure and hygiene, right? It's the same story.

All attempts at making enquiries about this failed. So, am throwing this open to Nairalanders for delibration. Please remember, this thread is not meant to be offensive in any way and meaningful contributions are encouraged. Thank you.

Um, let me guess. . . .you walked through the length & breadth of Igbo land, and discovered that there was no conventional toilet facilities with water cisterns, or that every house lacked a functional toilet? Please what is the basis of this warped hypothesis that you pasted up here? Undecided

Just what exactly are you trying to prove? Abi, you haven't seen pit latrines in other parts of Nigeria? Huh
You claim that your post wasn't meant to be derogatory, yet every line reeks of derision. *Hiss*

Quote from: nwando link=topic=87065
Nwanne m it is nauseating.
And as long as I've been here,sadly,its always a Yoruba man or some imbecile called mohadana that comes up with these smear threads about Igbos.
I am sick and tired of these idiots passing off as Igbo experts.

I have heard it all and somehow they all seem to know of my culture more than myself.
yesterday it was Igbo girls like money or Igbos are 419ers,Igbos are ritualists,and Igbos abuse their kids,today it's Igbos don't use toilet paper
Maybe tomorrow I'll hear that Igbos men have large breasts and wear bras.

Hehehehe. . . . . .na wa o! The way people attack whole ethnic groups instead of addressing specific, vital issues, is becoming rather rampant, here. Angry May God save us all!

Um, maybe someone should do an analysis to see how many negative posts have been posted about Igbo folks by non-Igbo, as well as how many negative posts have been made about non-Igbo people, by other Igbo folks. Once that is done, the next stage would be to compare the ethnicity of the posters of such "anti-ethnic groups" rhetoric, to get a clearer picture. Then, we can start banning and disbanding the posters of such negative stuff.  Sad Until that is done, no one should draw generalised references.

Tommorrow, we will wake up and wonder why Nigeria is not making progress? ???I weak o! It is precisely because of things like this. Sad
mellow (m)
Re: Why Do Igbo Girls Use Paper?
« #31 on: October 22, 2007, 03:17 PM »

My sister, Talk of retrogressive statement and you meet a true Nigerian
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