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FSU
Re: Nigerian Build's His Helicopter!
« #96 on: October 24, 2007, 10:16 AM »

quote from Denex
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I believe anybody who is intelligent enough to invent something or create a prototype should have the common sense of knowing how to realise their dream. Even in America, is it the Government that is encouraging these people financially or they are going to corporations that have use for their inventions?

Thank you my brother. What is Dangote, the so-called richest Nigerian doing about this? The Helicopter maker is from his state of Kano. So he should take the lead in providing funds.

No govt sponsorship for any one, otherwise it should be for everyone. Enough of the double standards.

And,  (for the doubting thomases) I still maintain that buses (the so-called Igbo jeeps and buses) are more relevant in addressing poverty in Nigeria than a helicopter. Proove me wrong. Muhammed, do yourself a permanent good: find your way to US or France, and get a mind-boggling job with established airplane manufacturers. Your skill is beyond Nigeria at the moment. Except of course you want to be employed in teaching the Nigerian civil avaitaion authority (NCAA) or the Nigerian Airforce how to repair/maintain aircrafts.
willy*2
Re: Nigerian Build's His Helicopter!
« #97 on: October 24, 2007, 11:21 AM »

Quote from: WesleyanA on October 23, 2007, 05:20 AM
the Igbos made their Jeep, the Hausas contributed an Helicopter.
Yorubas, where are you?!  Cry
Yoruba's bi good Administrator, na them go dey organize and coordinate all they parties(o wambe) and celebrations Nigerians will be having, from North to South. That will be their own contribution for Nigerians because they are specialized on that.
ayomifull (f)
Re: Nigerian Build's His Helicopter!
« #98 on: October 24, 2007, 11:57 AM »

One could still try out a car made in 9ja but to put a life in an helicopter made in 9ja? God forbid! that thing takes all the lives in it if anything goes wrong. I can not forget the experience i had with EAS before it eventually took lots of life. The kind of maintainamce culture we have in 9ja is below standard so one would be gambling with his life trying to fly on such locally made flying thing. Good luck to him and i wish him well in his career but i as a person will never fly the helicopter even for free.
denex
Re: Nigerian Build's His Helicopter!
« #99 on: October 24, 2007, 12:41 PM »

Nothing more to say on this thread.
willy*2
Re: Nigerian Build's His Helicopter!
« #100 on: October 24, 2007, 12:52 PM »

so!!, you pronounced it dead together with the Jihad Helicopter
naijaborn (m)
Re: Nigerian Build's His Helicopter!
« #101 on: October 24, 2007, 01:25 PM »

Quote from: willy*2 on October 24, 2007, 11:21 AM
Yoruba's bi good Administrator, na them go dey organize and coordinate all they parties(o wambe) and celebrations Nigerians will be having, from North to South. That will be their own contribution for Nigerians because they are specialized on that.
@willy*2;;;;why tribalize issues Huh Lips sealed dis is a national thing nd it shuld be addressed as one naija;;;;there's luv in oneness if yu've got any,ok! Tongue

Talkin bout naija's helicopter;;;;my pple,it can only get betta!all dat is needed is a platform to xplore Lips sealed Lips sealed

wot's d hype bout private/govt intervention;dont both sector hav a role to play in nation building Huh Huh
niyyie (m)
Re: Nigerian Build's His Helicopter!
« #102 on: October 24, 2007, 02:03 PM »


Too bad the AFP report did not include photos.

What the guy needs is support from the government. I dont understand why the government does not actively support talents like this guy.  Huh What a country!


naijaborn (m)
Re: Nigerian Build's His Helicopter!
« #103 on: October 24, 2007, 02:29 PM »

@niyyie,  no badmouth naija govt at all    may be yu need 2ask yursef wetin yu n i dey do to helep build dis nation Huh Huh ???evrythin nah govt Huh who be govt sef Huh no be yu n i Huh
jethrokay (m)
Re: Nigerian Build's His Helicopter!
« #104 on: October 24, 2007, 03:31 PM »

The fact is that this gentleman needs an encouragement anyhow it comes, either government or private individual.
If this guy is encouraged with  just half of the money Etteh (House of rep speaker) wanted to use to renovate her apartment alone, the guy will produce better helicopters.

What are we gaining from the speaker's apartment renovation. Nothing
Double N (m)
Re: Nigerian Build's His Helicopter!
« #105 on: October 24, 2007, 03:40 PM »

If only they would encourage him, So far will he go!This is just a fraction of the talent that abounds in this country but all this ingenuity dies prematurely because of people like Madam Speaker and her Cohorts and every other corrupt public official whose sole aim is to destroy the future of this generation.Its just a pity because this boys dream will die unless our government changes and starts supporting the youth!
hipernetix
Re: Nigerian Build's His Helicopter!
« #106 on: October 24, 2007, 03:54 PM »

@posters

Can anyone kindly provide any information on how to get in touch with this guy, we have got a group here in the UK who are interested in the boy for further educational sponsorships and training.

Thank you.
slim49z (m)
Re: Nigerian Build's His Helicopter!
« #107 on: October 24, 2007, 05:14 PM »


  Hey,That a taxi or a copper? hehe,  Grin
almondjoy (f)
Re: Nigerian Build's His Helicopter!
« #108 on: October 24, 2007, 07:19 PM »

Quote from: willy*2 on October 24, 2007, 11:21 AM
Yoruba's bi good Administrator, na them go dey organize and coordinate all they parties(o wambe) and celebrations Nigerians will be having, from North to South. That will be their own contribution for Nigerians because they are specialized on that.

Tee!  Hee!  Hee!  Hee! Hee! Hee! Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Cheesy Grin Cheesy  Please willy willy, laffing gas na poison oh!  You and these your "yahoooba" friends sef. You are becoming like Mohadana--the scourge of the igbos. Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy

So they do not specialize for anything else?  Interesting! Cheesy




Quote from: naijaborn on October 24, 2007, 01:25 PM


@willy*2;;;;why tribalize issues Huh Lips sealed this is a national thing nd it shuld be addressed as one naija;;;;there's love in oneness if yu've got any,ok! TongueTalkin bout naija's helicopter;;;;my people,it can only get betta!all that is needed is a platform to xplore Lips sealed Lips sealed

wot's d hype bout private/govt intervention;don't both sector hav a role to play in nation building Huh Huh

My sentiments exactly!!!!
Digiman (m)
Re: Nigerian Build's His Helicopter!
« #109 on: October 24, 2007, 08:02 PM »




This is sooo bad, the news is not a month old yet and some low life is already trying to make money out of it http://www.minut.ee/comments.pl?sid=07/10/22/215239&cid=85001


Dearest friend

I am doctor Mubarak Muhammad Abdullahi. I am a Nigerian helicopter builder. I build helicopters from fallen down Boeing planes and scrap metal and I make a lot of money.

Recently our corrupt Nigerian government made it illegal to produce aircraft without outrageous licensing fees. I protested this bill but Nigerian police arrested my account at Nigerian National Bank. Fortunately most of my money is held in International Bank Plc. I have over $140,000,000 on my account there.

This is where you come in. I ask you to help me gain access to this money. For this I propose that I wire this money to your account and you send me 65% of this money in cash via mail. I estimate that 10% of this money will be spent on fees and you my friend get the remaining 25% which is $35,000,000 for your service and trust. Remember that this transaction is based on trust and my deep respect in you and your organization.

If you accept my proposal then I will need the following information:
1) YOUR FULL NAMES
2) AGE
3) CONTACT ADDRESS
4) OCCUPATION
5) PRIVATE PHONE NUMBER

Then I will contact you and we can discuss the details.

I look forward to hear from you soonest. Please keep in mind that this transaction must remain confidential at all costs.
Regards,
Doctor Mubarak Muhammad Abdullahi
iykrion (m)
Re: Nigerian Build's His Helicopter!
« #110 on: October 24, 2007, 08:26 PM »

Quote from: ayomifull on October 24, 2007, 11:57 AM
One could still try out a car made in Nigeria but to put a life in an helicopter made in Nigeria? God forbid! that thing takes all the lives in it if anything goes wrong. I can not forget the experience i had with EAS before it eventually took lots of life. The kind of maintainamce culture we have in Nigeria is below standard so one would be gambling with his life trying to fly on such locally made flying thing. Good luck to him and i wish him well in his career but i as a person will never fly the helicopter even for free.

A journey of a thousand miles starts with just one step. Orville and Wilbur Wright certainly started this way.
Mustay (m)
Re: Nigerian Build's His Helicopter!
« #111 on: October 24, 2007, 08:54 PM »

Quote from: Digiman on October 24, 2007, 08:02 PM


This is sooo bad, the news is not a month old yet and some low life is already trying to make money out of it http://www.minut.ee/comments.pl?sid=07/10/22/215239&=85001




* chopper.jpg (91.11 KB, 379x253 )
almondjoy (f)
Re: Nigerian Build's His Helicopter!
« #112 on: October 24, 2007, 08:58 PM »

Heh! Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin
Siena (m)
Re: Nigerian Build's His Helicopter!
« #113 on: October 24, 2007, 10:03 PM »

Quote from: iykrion on October 24, 2007, 08:26 PM
A journey of a thousand miles starts with just one step. Orville and Wilbur Wright certainly started this way.

Maybe, maybe not.

Are you prepared to be a passenger in that helicopter, on it's "maiden flight"?   Grin You'll definitely be famous, and receive a lot of praise, imagine your name emblazoned up there for all the world to see!  Grin

All depends on if you're alive to see it. On a serious note, encouragement is one thing, in any shape or form, but who'd want to be a guinea pig? Not me! My life's way too precious to risk on an untested venture!  Shocked

It's one thing to be a passenger in a test car, the most that could happen is the brakes could fail, you may break a leg or two, but no big deal!  Grin Grin Grin But imagine a helicopter, at the best of times, they're a fair bit more dangerous than fixed-wing aircraft (aeroplanes). If their engine (s) fail, an experienced pilot could still do a crash landing, as long as the wing flaps are still working, the plane becomes a giant glider.

Engine failure in a helicopter is different - no wings to glide with, it'll drop like a stone! The only way is down, and all you'll see is earth rushing up to you!  Shocked Shocked Shocked
iykrion (m)
Re: Nigerian Build's His Helicopter!
« #114 on: October 24, 2007, 11:00 PM »

Quote from: Siena on October 24, 2007, 10:03 PM
Maybe, maybe not.

Are you prepared to be a passenger in that helicopter, on it's "maiden flight"? Grin You'll definitely be famous, and receive a lot of praise, imagine your name emblazoned up there for all the world to see! Grin

All depends on if you're alive to see it. On a serious note, encouragement is one thing, in any shape or form, but who'd want to be a guinea pig? Not me! My life's way too precious to risk on an untested venture! Shocked

It's one thing to be a passenger in a test car, the most that could happen is the brakes could fail, you may break a leg or too, but no big deal! Grin Grin Grin But imagine a helicopter, at the best of times, they're a fair bit more dangerous than fixed-wing aircraft (aeroplanes). If their engine (s) fail, an experienced pilot could still do a crash landing, as long as the wing flaps are still working, the plane becomes a giant glider.

Engine failure in a helicopter is different - no wings to glide with, it'll drop like a stone! The only way is down, and all you'll see is earth rushing up to you! Shocked Shocked Shocked

With necessary supports, financially and otherwise, he will deliver a safe helicopter for us all. This is just his first attempt. If this is improved upon, I bet in the next few years, a much better thing will emerge. Don't you think so?
Digiman (m)
Re: Nigerian Build's His Helicopter!
« #115 on: October 24, 2007, 11:26 PM »

Quote from: Siena on October 24, 2007, 10:03 PM
Maybe, maybe not.

Are you prepared to be a passenger in that helicopter, on it's "maiden flight"? Grin You'll definitely be famous, and receive a lot of praise, imagine your name emblazoned up there for all the world to see! Grin

All depends on if you're alive to see it. On a serious note, encouragement is one thing, in any shape or form, but who'd want to be a guinea pig? Not me! My life's way too precious to risk on an untested venture! Shocked

It's one thing to be a passenger in a test car, the most that could happen is the brakes could fail, you may break a leg or too, but no big deal! Grin Grin Grin But imagine a helicopter, at the best of times, they're a fair bit more dangerous than fixed-wing aircraft (aeroplanes). If their engine (s) fail, an experienced pilot could still do a crash landing, as long as the wing flaps are still working, the plane becomes a giant glider.

Engine failure in a helicopter is different - no wings to glide with, it'll drop like a stone! The only way is down, and all you'll see is earth rushing up to you! Shocked Shocked Shocked

By the time it gets to its maiden filght stage it would have undergone 100's of  test flights under controlled conditions with a qualified test pilot at the controls.

As  for landing a helicopter with a stalled engine  it can be done but you have to undergo proper training, every heli pilot learns this during basic training.


Quote from: Siena on October 24, 2007, 10:03 PM
   
But imagine a helicopter, at the best of times, they're a fair bit more dangerous than fixed-wing aircraft (aeroplanes). If their engine (s) fail, an experienced pilot could still do a crash landing, as long as the wing flaps are still working, the plane becomes a giant glider.


This is not  true with jets, with no propulsion and no hydraulics  and terra firma rushing at you at 9.8 meters per second you might as well  start saying your prayers if you can't get the engines started, light fixed wing aircraft on the other hand are much easier to land with a stalled engine, you can still work the control surfaces because they are not hydrulically operated  like the big jets. I'd be more comfortable  performing an emergency landing in a Cessna anyday, all I need to find is a big enough strip to land on, while making my distress call  Cool.
bibiking1
Re: Nigerian Build's His Helicopter!
« #116 on: October 24, 2007, 11:49 PM »

Okay! I think we have hit the roof and burnt the last of the cables on our long roller coaster debate that of course was fun while it lasted.
Now this is the point where fiction departs reality, and what we see differs from what we HOPE to see,

This man obviously is ingenious, that cannot be taken away from his person.
But where we start DREAMING is when we hope to make something out of this. This is obviously a dead end, This mans so called prototype is not a feasible project to embark upon, both economically and socially.

There are like a million and one hybrid of the helicopter out there in the WORLD, spending money on him to to react history amounts to stupidity and economic foolishness.

As i pointed out earlier, tere are other ways his knowledge can be of use to the Nigerian society, and those are what we should hammer on instead of "pouring spring water into the desert"
Siena (m)
Re: Nigerian Build's His Helicopter!
« #117 on: October 24, 2007, 11:51 PM »

@ Digiman: I agree. I have taken tuition in a Cessna 180 (yes, quite old!)

A Cessna 180 doesn't have hydraulic flaps / spoilers. They were cable operated, and a certain degree of control was still available, if you were unfortunate enough to stall the engine. And of course, it's a turbo-prop plane, and quite light.

Yes, a commercial aircraft, like for instance an Airbus A300 has hydraulically-operated air flaps, with 2 seperate circuits. Very unlikely to lose both circuits, but with all engines stalled, as long as the pilots are careful with the stored hydraulic reserves, it is easier to use available air currents to glide, and there's a good chance the engines can be re-started, as long as there's enough forward momentum.

What I meant was, in the case of a helicopter, if the horizontal propellar (that provides lift) stops, there's nothing to keep it in the air! The vertical prop at the rear only provides forward motion, and it will drive the craft out of control! I can't see how the pilot will bring it down. At least, if the rear prop fails, the craft can at least hover, as long as the horizontal prop remains functional.

That home-built craft will require a lot of testing, before it's allowed to take to the skies. Testing an aircraft is very, very expensive, and this brings us back to the crux of this debate - financial support.
bibiking1
Re: Nigerian Build's His Helicopter!
« #118 on: October 24, 2007, 11:52 PM »

Quote from: oko_wo_obo on October 24, 2007, 08:57 PM
in fact you're number one stupid - look at your ugly picture

Thanks! Grin
almondjoy (f)
Re: Nigerian Build's His Helicopter!
« #119 on: October 25, 2007, 12:52 AM »

Quote from: Siena on October 24, 2007, 11:51 PM
@ Digiman: I agree. I have taken tuition in a Cessna 180 (yes, quite old!)

A Cessna 180 doesn't have hydraulic flaps / spoilers. They were cable operated, and a certain degree of control was still available, if you were unfortunate enough to stall the engine. And of course, it's a turbo-prop plane, and quite light.

Yes, a commercial aircraft, like for instance an Airbus A300 has hydraulically-operated air flaps, with 2 seperate circuits. Very unlikely to lose both circuits, but with all engines stalled, as long as the pilots are careful with the stored hydraulic reserves, it is easier to use available air currents to glide, and there's a good chance the engines can be re-started, as long as there's enough forward momentum.

What I meant was, in the case of a helicopter, if the horizontal propellar (that provides lift) stops, there's nothing to keep it in the air! The vertical prop at the rear only provides forward motion, and it will drive the craft out of control! I can't see how the pilot will bring it down. At least, if the rear prop fails, the craft can at least hover, as long as the horizontal prop remains functional.

That home-built craft will require a lot of testing, before it's allowed to take to the skies. Testing an aircraft is very, very expensive, and this brings us back to the crux of this debate - financial support.

Uwese Brother!--"Thank you brother"--as the binis will say!

Right on!-----Where is the financial support for this?  No where forth coming.  What will Nigerians do next? Use these "maiden or virgin river Niger and Benue" pigeons  masquerading as "Hellishcopters"  to start carrying people without authorization or safety clearance?  What about the waste products from these experiments.  We cannot dispose of refuse dumpsters littered all over the cities in Nigeria and we are talking of high tech---engineering projects?  Financing is only one problem---we still have to worry about the inability to dispose of "toxic" wastes and by-products in the process of "experimentation"!



bolseas
Re: Nigerian Build's His Helicopter!
« #120 on: October 25, 2007, 10:58 AM »


@ Mckren, babasin, presido1, kobojunkie, omoge, debosky, codrojac, davidylan, and others who support dis guy,

i am very much in support of all wht u guys have bin saying so far. instead of naijans to support this guy, they re casitgating him. let us ask dose peeps who are rebuking him wht dey ve manufactured or produced. what if dey are d ones who produced such a thing, and dey are being castigated, hw re dey going to feeel? i just blive dey are either jealous of d guy or they re envying him.

wht if d guy is from Delta state, dey will say a militant is building a chopper to hijack planes
since he is from kano dey called it a jihad chopper
wht if it is frm oyo or plateu states, wht name will dey give d chopper?

the G8 or G9 started this way b4 dey became wht dey re today.

as a reminder, we even bought an old presidential jet (crap) from them at double the price of a new jet. dey are using their technology to deceive and cheat us.

naijans let stop being narrow minded, let stop dese prejudice, d stereotyping, all dese lead us no where.

let us support one another and make naija a great nation.





evergie (m)
Re: Nigerian Build's His Helicopter!
« #121 on: October 25, 2007, 12:54 PM »

@bolseas
You mean we should support this poor boy efforts? If we allow that carton he designed to fly then America should apologize to Iraq because we will have something deadlier than weapon of mass destruction. Who told you we all want to die same way as you? Well, I will not stop you from supporting the young chap, who knows reason(s).

Take my condolence greets before you pass away.   Cry Cry Cry LOL
pilot77
Re: Nigerian Build's His Helicopter!
« #122 on: October 25, 2007, 02:42 PM »

our "Brother's" helicopter will have to have some form of Clutch to disengage the main rotor from the engine should an engine failure occur.He also needs a tail rotor too to conteract the torque generated by the main rotor as they spin.i truly wish him the best of luck Wink
cheers
pilot77
bolseas
Re: Nigerian Build's His Helicopter!
« #123 on: October 25, 2007, 03:00 PM »

 
Quote from: evergie on October 25, 2007, 12:54 PM
@bolseas
You mean we should support this poor boy efforts? If we allow that carton he designed to fly then America should apologize to Iraq because we will have something deadlier than weapon of mass destruction. Who told you we all want to die same way as you? Well, I will not stop you from supporting the young chap, who knows reason(s).

Take my condolence greets before you pass away. Cry Cry Cry LOL

if u re dat poor guy i will still support u.

for d guy to spend d little money he is making from phone repairrs on achieving his dreams,
went thru d troubles of  getting scrap from a crash site,
d little money his father gave him as pocket money, all because he wants to achieve his dream,

i still doff my hat for d guy.

learn to appreciate things no matter hw little dat others did dat u(especially) ddnt do/ve nt done.

Seun (m)
Re: Nigerian Build's His Helicopter!
« #124 on: October 25, 2007, 03:05 PM »

Don't worry about safety, the helicopter has never gone higher than seven feet.
You can fall safely from a height of seven feet - just about the height of a tall man.
naijaborn (m)
Re: Nigerian Build's His Helicopter!
« #125 on: October 25, 2007, 03:22 PM »

Incase yu guys dont kno;dis no be the first of its kind    sometimes around d mid/late 90s i can remember vividly;a guy from yaba tech made an helicopter which was even more gud lookin than dis one   wot happened to him Huh Huh  like d wind,he's gone wit it!

i no fit shout!  cos evn me need help Shocked Grin
bibiking1
Re: Nigerian Build's His Helicopter!
« #126 on: October 25, 2007, 03:28 PM »

Quote from: Seun on October 25, 2007, 03:05 PM
Don't worry about safety, the helicopter has never gone higher than seven feet.
You can fall safely from a height of seven feet - just about the height of a tall man.

then of what use is it?
evergie (m)
Re: Nigerian Build's His Helicopter!
« #127 on: October 25, 2007, 03:40 PM »

Quote from: bibiking1 on October 25, 2007, 03:28 PM
then of what use is it?
I wonder oooooo!
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