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Hero (m)
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PLEASE watch this movie!! It's about an hour long but very, very educational and truthfully telling of the story of how sadistic the system of the American Slavery institution was, and help one to understand just how the effects of such an humiliating system could in fact be breached into the livelihoods of the descendants of these Africans whom where forced to go through its humiliating elements of degradation. It gives a vivid and insightful picture of just why ((WE)) African-Americans will NEVER, EVER "just forget about the past, and move on", as so many folks not of our ranks keep telling us we should do. NO!! We will keenly keep conscious of our past, and move on with it, as we have always done for decades past. Our history is the glue that bonds us as one!! Without it, we would had been easy targets for those whom wished to succeed in "balkanizing" us into factions for self ruin like what was done to the Afro-Brazilian and other black populations of Latin America. It's a shame how so many Africans have just "forgot about their past" and moved on, only to be living an lacklustre existence today because of that devastating choice imposed upon them by their white conquers. I dread the day that such a thing should ever happen to us African-Americans, for that it has been our remembrance, acknowledgment, respect, and strength of our historical and world renowned past, from the atrocious to the astounding, in which we have always helled on to for strength, insight and determination to, as we say, keep keeping on, in this land in which we were brought to as sickened, starving slaves, yet evolved into a savory statute of American and world society. NOW I present to you: http://knowledgeisthekeyradio.com/gbut/gbut1_player.swf
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davidylan (m)
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hero, i'm still speechless! 
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Hero (m)
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hero, i'm still speechless!  Yes, it's one thing to hear about the atrocities in which we AfAm's ancestors went through and tell us descendants to "just forget about them and move on", but when one actually sees with their own eyes just how the system was literally institutionalized within the social existence of the AfAm population right from the roots as slaves and onward, it's only then that people can begin to see that when we and others state that the way we are, act and function as a people is directly connected to the way we were literally bred to be, they can see and understand how this is so. As the movie shows in such crystal clear form; we were literally bred to be a dysfunctional people. Illicit sexual conduct, leading to fatherless child rearing was driven into our state of being by our white masters of old, all in an effort to bring about ever greater numbers of dysrooted, dysfunctional slaves to build, run and strengthen their economic might with. We were bred like cattle, to be their non-dependent, obedient slaves. Education was eliminated from our grasp by the ever lingering threat of death for man, woman and even child, in which dared to even mention the word, not to mention crack a book or even pick up one for that matter. Therefore to protect ourselves against this lingering threat, we suppressed the importance of education upon our generations, demonized it as an evil to be avoided and more. Many ask why do we AfAm's respect and cater to our mothers so much more than our fathers, well the answer is also found in our roots. As I mentioned, often on the plantations the slaves whom worked it were bred like cattle, men of various types were sent around impregnating various women of various types, so to produce certain desirable types of offspring needed to do certain types of jobs around the plantation, or in which could fetch the owner a hefty price at the auction block. Little regard was given to the want or need for the development of family units, as long as the black "winches" around the plantation kept popping out them strong healthy "Pups" for massa at mass, that's all that mattered, and in this regard the man played little role in the average slave childs life, the women were all that mattered in their lives growing up. They were the undisputed backbone of the plantations. They worked the plantation fields with the kids, ran the big house with the kids, fed them, clothed them, taught them, protected them, disciplined them and more as a community group from the cradle to the grave, of every single person to have ever existed on the plantation, and that includes the whites as well. All the men did was work, work, work, work, work, work, work, sleep, eat, impregnate all the girls, work some more and then die. Some people talk about how many of us often refer to each-other as nigga, well this is no new phenomenon folks, and Nigga is not a word invented by us, but by our white oppressors of old, and over a century upon century upon century, of being referred to, addressed as, and documented with nothing but the title of Niggers or "Nigga" in southern draw, as was often the case, it was only natural that we too, having learnt our ability to speak English from our oppressors whom only referred to us as Niggas, Niggras or Niggers, would also refer to ourselves this way ((Officially)), and just like all the rest of the negative elements pressed upon us in our existence on the plantations, this too carried over into our existence as partial freeman. Remember; the body can be freed alot easier than the mind!! Now I can go on and on with this, but instead of doing that I'll just say this; most of every single functional element in which we AfAm's present to the world, both negative and positive, can be directly traced back to our roots, existent back on the plantations of old. If you want to find out why it is that we do such and such, the answer can be easily found via taking a good investigation into our existence back on the plantations, and the slave coded system they functioned under, back when Cotton was King and 'Tobacca' was Tops.  400 years of hardcore, militaristically implemented, dysfunctional behavior, can not be wholly eradicated from a people within less than 100 years in a state of partial freedom and rights. In all actuality, the distance in which we have come thus far in such a small amount of time, is actually an amazing feat to have achieved. To go from a people of absolute nothingness, near animals in existence, to that of world renowned artist' gollor, prime leaders in the most powerful government on the face of the earth, military as well, inventors of thousands of of some of the worlds most valuable things, world renowned doctorates, and developers of many of the most world renowned popular musics known to man, holders of the world's 9th largest pocket of wealth, worldly acknowledged sporting Juggernaut  , and so much more, all in a span of less than 100 years is astonishing when one stops to really think about it.
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Jakumo (m)
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Hero, having lived in today's societies both in the United States and in sub-Saharan Africa, I have witnessed frequently and first-hand far more oppression, injustice, mob "justice" and random unsolved killing in Africa than I would see in anytown America even if I lived there to be a 100 years old. The mayhem I refer to is wreaked by a black person or spontaneously formed mob of black Africans against an often innocent black victim, with not a caucasian in sight. I make reference to this quiescent state of near anarchy in many African nations today to remind myself that no race deserves to be assigned sole blame for historical or present day injustice and brutality.
The video-taped beating of Rodney King by Los Angeles sheriff's deputies made global headlines in the 1990's and was a catalyst of real change for the better in the LAPD, with quite a few of the force's old guard getting the boot. Then and today in Nigerian cities, policemen deliberately and routinely open fire at motorists who fail to pay small-change bribes. Unidentified cadavers left by ritual killers and hit-and-run drivers rot in the African sun alongside main highways, and are refered to by Nigeria's expatriate population as Delta Bravo's, as in Dead Bodies. If the level of civilization of a society can be gauged by the respect that society accords the remains of its dead, then the numerous Delta Bravos along Nigeria's highways bear silent testimony to what successive black-run governments have thought of their subjects.
Hero, nobody can dispute the historical fact that the genocidal slave trade of black Africans to Europe and the Americas, along with the concurrent and subsequent segregation, lynchings and oppression, are some of the most calculating and evil crimes in human history. It is with regards to the question of whether that pogrom of slavery should continue to loom so large in America's social consciousness that my view differs slightly from yours. With African-Americans' hard-earned right to vote attained nearly a half-century ago, and with most forms of overt racism expunged from the nation's legal statutes, couldn't an argument be made that the current generation of Americans of all races live comparatively more secure lives, blessed with greater opportunity for education and career advancement and protected by a substantially less biased law enforcement and legal system than existed at any time in the past ? Sure there is a long way to go before America can speak honestly of absolute equality among the races, but progress has been made and the injustices of the past are to an extent being addressed by the US government. That is a lot more than can be said for some black-ruled African countries I could name.
Lastly it bears mention that inter-tribal wars in Africa's dark past, along with the attendant capture of slaves as the spoils of such fratricidal conflicts, were a very significant contributory factor that fueled the slave trade by providing early European explorers with an easily exploitable and pre-existing practice of commercialized savagery established by the black man himself. This consideration alone lends credence to the notion that some of history's bloodiest chapters might be better off left closed and forgotten once the relevant lessons have been learned with a view to preventing a repeat of mankinds blunders.
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Drusilla (f)
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Jakumo,
First of all I miss your wisdom. So come back around. Secondly, I consider it a misunderstanding that Africans can not understand why we do not appreciate all that we African Americans have compared to those in Black governments in Africa.
We are also Americans. And Americans are taught that government belongs to the people. So Americans do not stop at half-way right and pat themselves on the back.
We continue our push for all the way right. All of my life I grew up with the idea that it is our job as African Americans to bring humanity into this world.
This we have done at least for ourselves and a large part of the Diaspora. We must spread it to our brothers in Africa. We won't find success, until Africa rests. Smile.
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Horus (m)
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Africans weren’t brought right here to this country (America). They were first dropped off in the West Indian islands, in the Caribbean. Why? This was the breaking in grounds. They would break them down there. When they broke them, then they would bring the ones whose spirit had been broken on to the hells of America. They had all kinds of tactics for breaking them in. They bred fear into them. It is written in one book how the slave maker (kidnapper) used to take a pregnant African woman and make here watch as her man would be tortured and put to death. Some of those slave makers had trees that they planted in positions where they would bend them and tie them, then tie the head of a Nubian man to one, his hand to the other and his legs to two more, then he’d cut the rope. When he cut the rope, that tree would snap him up into four different parts. That’s why when you get in front of the caucasians, you start to scratch, you start grinning, and you don’t know why, it was bred into you.
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Hero (m)
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The toucher tactics for breaking in resistant slaves is on target, although I've never heard of the tree antics being carried out; though your information about how all slaves were taken to the Caribbean before being brought to North America is false. Did you even watch the move, or actually read into the historical presence of slaves in this nation? The movie, and historical readings on the American slave structure, clearly shows that--- first of all, the majority of slaves to have ever existed in the American colonies and the the proceding US--- were born and raised right here in this nation, and 60% of those who were not, were brought here directly from Africa and sent through "breeding and breaking farms" located just outside of the major southern ports of the day at Charleston, SC, Wilmington, VA, Norfolk, VA, Baltimore and more.
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Horus (m)
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although I've never heard of the tree antics being carried out And?If you never heard of something you assume that it is false? your information about how all slaves were taken to the Caribbean before being brought to North America is false. Then your informations is false. read into the historical presence of slaves in this nation? The movie, and historical readings on the American slave structure, clearly shows that--- Books written by who?caucasians? Movie done by who?caucasians? --- were born and raised right here in this nation I was not talking about thoses who were born in this nation,it is clear in my post. and 60% of those who were not, were brought here directly from Africa And what about the rest: 40%who where not?
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Drusilla (f)
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Hero,
The link does not seem to work anymore. Can you put up another?
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JustGood (m)
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Some of those slave makers had trees that they planted in positions where they would bend them and tie them, then tie the head of a Nubian man to one, his hand to the other and his legs to two more, then he’d cut the rope. When he cut the rope, that tree would snap him up into four different parts. That’s why when you get in front of the caucasians, you start to scratch, you start grinning, and you don’t know why, it was bred into you.
Utter Rubbish!!! Is that really what you do when you see caucasians? You feel yourself as confronting a superior figure? That's not what I do.
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Hero (m)
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And?If you never heard of something you assume that it is false? No. I never assumed anything, I was simply making mention of the fact of that I've never heard of such an incident taking place, though I'm not refuting that it may have happened. You should stop acting as if your always victim; at least that's how you've presented your self here on this board thus far. Then your informations is false.  What are you, a kindergartner or something?  Anyway, prove it, cause I've got proof that I'm right and you're not. Books written by who?caucasians? Movie done by who?caucasians? Some were some weren't, the color of a person skin has no legitimacy in the context of the work they present. I've read works by blacks in which made my skin crawl in that they were filled some of the most self degrading information I've ever heard about the history of black-America and other blacks and people of color around the world. Stuff in which one would most likely only expect a white supremest utter out their mouths. Then on the flip side I've read works by whites in which presented some of the most down to earth on point perspective about the racial poleification of this nation and the world at large and their roots, historical references on the slave trade and other dynamic topics in which they covered to a par and in some instances even better than many black scholars have done. Victim mentality is like venom in your system, it numbs the mind and keeps it from functioning in a complacent manner, disallowing you to get out of the rut you're in and slowly or quickly strangles the life out you. I was not talking about thoses who were born in this nation,it is clear in my post. Oh nooo, you've got me over a barrow now.  NOT.  You clearly are feeling a bit delusional from that victim venom you've got in you clouding your brain. Here let me help you get your bearings back. What you CLEARLY stated in your post was this, Africans weren’t brought right here to this country (America). They were first dropped off in the West Indian islands, in the Caribbean. Why? This was the breaking in grounds. They would break them down there. When they broke them, then they would bring the ones whose spirit had been broken on to the hells of America. Do you CLEARLY remember stating that?--- I'm sure you don't, but trust me it is what you said, you can go check if you'D like. Now, as you can clearly see, you were clearly stating false information in which I clearly recognized as being clearly false and I proceeded to clearly clear your clearly false statement clear up. Have I made myself clear?  And what about the rest: 40%who where not?  Humm, obviously I didn't make myself too clear, did I? I stated that the vast majority of those who were not born in the US came here directly from Africa, and the remainder percentage who did not, came from the Caribbean, particularly Haiti for the most part.
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Horus (m)
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@ Hero You should stop acting as if your always victim Well you called me a liar!!so i have to retaliate!! Oh nooo, you've got me over a barrow now. NOT. You clearly are feeling a bit delusional from that victim venom you've got in you clouding your brain. Here let me help you get your bearings back. What you CLEARLY stated in your post was this,
Quote Africans weren’t brought right here to this country (America). They were first dropped off in the West Indian islands, in the Caribbean. Why? This was the breaking in grounds. They would break them down there. When they broke them, then they would bring the ones whose spirit had been broken on to the hells of America.
Do you CLEARLY remember stating that?--- I'm sure you don't, but trust me it is what you said, you can go check if you'D like. Now, as you can clearly see, you were clearly stating false information in which I clearly recognized as being clearly false and I proceeded to clearly clear your clearly false statement clear up. Have I made myself clear? You are sarcastics by thinking that i have memory problem. I was only talking about those who came by boat.If they bring them to america after the breaking,by boat this mean that they are NOT born in America so i was not talking about thoses who are born in America.(read my first post)Where is my false statement?why you call me a liar? did I? I stated that the vast majority of those who were not born in the US came here directly from Africa, and the remainder percentage who did not, came from the Caribbean, particularly Haiti for the most part.
You was not accurate at all,it is me who mentioned the Caribbean,you was just saying that my statement is false.You are mentioning the Caribbean, and particularly Haiti only now (read all your previous post before calling me a liar again) I have no benefit in misleanding my own people.
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Horus (m)
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@JustGood (JustBad) Utter Rubbish!!! Then you must be a Rubbish and should be treated as a Rubbish Is that really what you do when you see caucasians? You feel yourself as confronting a superior figure?
I did say you,not me. Where did a say that i think that they are superior when i know that caucasian are recesives genes.
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