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britgirlee (f)
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[font=Lucida Sans Unicode][/font] Firstly hello Nigeria hello Niralanders , I'm British born but I am Nigerian brought up by a middle class Nigerian parents . I must say extremely well. My topic for conversation is: Why do some Born and bred Nigerians think British born Nigerians have no African Values>?>> Poor assumptions are generally made over where we'stand' in the acceptability factors as in some cases we cannot speak the required African language etc but does that make us unacceptable I for one i must admit can cook most Yoruba dishes can dress in my native dress and look stunning hold down a house a home car and other, And have the greatest respect for family values. However i cannot speak the language but understand it when spoken. Just your honest thoughts would be nice, 
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chiboyz (m)
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thanx for letting us know you are British born and bred. we never see one before.
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britgirlee (f)
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thankyou for your reply, but its a general question not meant to offend. when you have more time a more articulate response would be nice
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Siena (m)
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thankyou for your reply, but its a general question not meant to offend. when you have more time a more articulate response would be nice
I understand where you're coming from. I've given up trying to work things out, and trying to convince Nigerians born in Nigeria, it all depends on what your parents were like. But still, I'm happy. Get over it, and just be yourself, life's way too short trying to justify your upbringing, and why your parents language may not come naturally to you. 
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britgirlee (f)
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Thankyou for your reply, intresting response , however i must stress that I am totally comfortable and confident in 'myself' just gets v fraustrating at times
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Kobojunkie
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[font=Lucida Sans Unicode][/font] Firstly hello Nigeria hello Niralanders , I'm British born but I am Nigerian brought up by a middle class Nigerian parents . I must say extremely well. My topic for conversation is: Why do some Born and bred Nigerians think British born Nigerians have no African Values>?>> Poor assumptions are generally made over where we'stand' in the acceptability factors as in some cases we cannot speak the required African language etc but does that make us unacceptable I for one i must admit can cook most Yoruba dishes can dress in my native dress and look stunning hold down a house a home car and other, And have the greatest respect for family values. However i cannot speak the language but understand it when spoken. Just your honest thoughts would be nice,  Well, ask them how much of these africans values they adhere to themselves. We have more Africans in Africa who want to pretend they are Born offshore than are outside of Africa. Ask them what those values are and if they themselves know to keep them. It is one thing to know of values, and many do but do they keep them cause if they did, why is africa the way it is today with teenagers already thieves on an international level right there in africa.
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britgirlee (f)
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Such a strong reply but totally honest unfortunately  I definately will be passing the responses I have received on this discussion
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chuckdee4 (m)
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As an individual u cannot be held responsible for the environment u were born in, so if people decide to hate on u, because of your different orientation then mess it. The fact that haven been born somewhere else your still trying to make an effort to connect with your people says enough of the kindda person u are, if born n bred naijas can't see that then thats their problem. Why hate on u anyway, its not like u had a choice on where u would be born.
Haven said all of this not many Nigerians would hate on u, just a silly few but in general the fact that u don't claim to be British (Like some Nigerians do) is enough for any born and bred Nigerian to accept u into their fold
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britgirlee (f)
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chuckdee, love the response and yr absolutely right, but it is a wide birth of nigerians in this country that do behave in such a sad way, the classic when passing by or even standing with a nigerian those who don't know me will start to speak in yoruba thinking i don't understand, etc talking about you assve yr invisible, im sure people in my position will 2nd what i say it is in a way 'racist against yr own kind'  i hope to educate those responsible, ps were in essex are you 
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chuckdee4 (m)
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Well stupid people will always exist on earth, i know what it feels like having people talk about u right in front of u assuming u don't understand. There's two sides to it; u can't really tell who's from where by looking at them, but talking about someone like that is just wrong (Like i said, stupid people will forever exist).
Racism/tribalism amongst our own is something that has always been there, its a shame because we're all Nigerian and the fact that u grew up else where doesn't make u less of a Nigerian, people do need to be educated but i think certain people should be made aware that Nigerians in diaspora bring something totally different to the table, which they sure could do with.
Having said all of that there are a great deal of Nigerians who wouldn't treat u any differently irrespective of where u grew up
I could go on and on but i'll can it, by the way i stay in Barking (More of E.London)
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britgirlee (f)
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spot on, purfleet up the road,
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chuckdee4 (m)
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small world huh 
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mutter (f)
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I can understand the way you feel writting this thread. I grew up in nigeria with a White mum years ago and people where always making jokes. Speak Igbo so we can hear and then laughing at my accent. The result I had real hangups about speaking. A shame because later I wasn´t in the east and the opportunity was lost. Some Nigerians here when they talk let out comments like - "you would´t understand because you are not a full Nigerian". I have to laugh I could sell them in Nigeria. They do not even have half an idea of living in Nigeria or about the culture. It just boils down to prejudice and nothing else. But to tell you honestly I never have this problem with reasonable people just some daft ones. I
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britgirlee (f)
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mutter
thanks for your veiw and yes ive been there and had all the comments when i was in nigeria and i was in a boarding school for 3 years but hey times have moved on
still exists but learnt how to give a good argument stand up for my self and educate the non believers
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komekn (m)
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To the Jews I became like a Jew, to win the Jews.---- To the weak I became weak, to win the weak-- I have become all things to all men so that by all possible means I might save some. Apostle Paul, 1Corinthians 9.20-- Versatility is an attribute and a life skill and advantage and sometimes a life saver. Lots of guys born and bred in the UK speak Yoruba and have never touched down in Niaja before. For me when in Hansworth or Mosside I speak Patois (Patwa) the language of self preservation unless you want to get mugged or shot. Its been real helpful in Liberty city Miami as well. When in Niaja de warri go come out full swing No Shakin! This is the language the area boys of gidi fear and respect in case i provoke. When in the Delta or Deta its Wa -do. Yet I was born in the UK and went to school there, before venturing to Niaja, and still live in the UK. When at school you would have had the option to learn French, German, Italian, etc if you can not learn an Indigenous language at least learn broken so you can belong well, in the uk there's at least 3.5m people of Niaja origin. No Excuse!!
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britgirlee (f)
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 komenken you make no sence and im not into bible bashers If your trying to say when in rome do as they do say it But the question is what exactly are you trying to say 
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JustGood (m)
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There is certainly a difference between a British-bred (not necessarily born abroad) person and a Nigerian-bred person. They have different thought processes and paterns as a result of their cultural environments. It does not make one either less of a human but it means that there are some/many values that they will differ on.
Even when people have lived abroad for a long time, it changes some of their perpesctives to things. Some positive and some negative.
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JustGood (m)
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many people on this forum will fail badly if they were to be tested on intelligence levels. I do not see the original poster saying that she was hated for not being Nigerian enough. Will you say people hate you when they tell you you are not British?
Why is it that every disagreement or non-compromise has to be equated to hatred?
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romeo (m)
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To the Jews I became like a Jew, to win the Jews.---- To the weak I became weak, to win the weak-- I have become all things to all men so that by all possible means I might save some. Apostle Paul, 1Corinthians 9.20-- Versatility is an attribute and a life skill and advantage and sometimes a life saver. Lots of guys born and bred in the UK speak Yoruba and have never touched down in Niaja before. For me when in Hansworth or Mosside I speak Patois (Patwa) the language of self preservation unless you want to get mugged or shot. Its been real helpful in Liberty city Miami as well. When in Niaja de warri go come out full swing No Shakin! This is the language the area boys of gidi fear and respect in case i provoke. When in the Delta or Deta its Wa -do. Yet I was born in the UK and went to school there, before venturing to Niaja, and still live in the UK. When at school you would have had the option to learn French, German, Italian, etc if you can not learn an Indigenous language at least learn broken so you can belong well, in the uk there's at least 3.5m people of Niaja origin. No Excuse!!
what he said is very correct @britgirlie he made a lot of sense or maybe you are too blind to see them, with over 3 million Nigerians living there you can still learn to speak your indigenous language if you desire that a lot because many have done it and i have little respect for people that know nothing about their origin, but that's not your case because you can do the food, dress up, and even understand the language (just a little bit of effort more to speak the language), i have seen white girls that have never been to Nigeria speak igbo language and one in particular even writes it in msn messenger and there is no excuse for a Moon born and bred person of Nigeria origin not to have a little bit of Nigerian values
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britgirlee (f)
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|Almond girlee how are you , thank god its the weekend!! This was the very first topic i posted understand what your saying //// African values in the sense culture respect understanding Nigeria i.e do you know your country and diffrent tribes , its easy to presume that every one understands what you mean its an eye opener on this forum , feel like you have to break things down in to very simple terms for some individuals to understand. But I must admit love yr hard core responses taken tips for my self 
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britgirlee (f)
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what he said is very correct Romeo not blind at all my dear every individual is diffrent bravo for the Caucasians that can speak igbo!! But at least i have instilled my Nigerian cultures and values and no exactly were |I am from  @britgirlie he made a lot of sense or maybe you are too blind to see them, with over 3 million Nigerians living there you can still learn to speak your indigenous language if you desire that a lot because many have done it and i have little respect for people that know nothing about their origin, but that's not your case because you can do the food, dress up, and even understand the language (just a little bit of effort more to speak the language), i have seen white girls that have never been to Nigeria speak igbo language and one in particular even writes it in msn messenger and there is no excuse for a Moon born and bred person of Nigeria origin not to have a little bit of Nigerian values
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britgirlee (f)
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There is certainly a difference between a British-bred (not necessarily born abroad) person and a Nigerian-bred person. They have different thought processes and paterns as a result of their cultural environments. It does not make one either less of a human but it means that there are some/many values that they will differ on.
Even when people have lived abroad for a long time, it changes some of their perpesctives to things. Some positive and some negative.
many people on this forum will fail badly if they were to be tested on intelligence levels. I do not see the original poster saying that she was hated for not being Nigerian enough. Will you say people hate you when they tell you you are not British? Why is it that every disagreement or non-compromise has to be equated to hatred? Just GOOD THANKYOU 100 TIMES OVER I wish i could quote you on all my threads . The sad shame of it is this topic is indirectly looking at the British/American/Other discrimination by 'our own and it has come very apparent in this topic and other topic s I have posted  Just goes to show I guess 
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