Ethiopian Liya Kebede: Isn't She Gorgeous?

Liya Kebede is an Ethiopian woman who is the first black woman to represent Estee Lauder, And is also on the cover of vogue.

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@ luvu567,how come we have the same siggy?

everyone can be the way you want them to be, its probably her nature that shez lke that so nomatter any amount of food will do anything.am aslo like that but would add when i get older or have a baby cuz it runs in the family, period, shz beautifullllllllllllllllllll

@buckeye, what is siggy

ooooooooooooooo, thank u

off course but the question is, can you do it like me ?

@Txlonghorn, her job is basically to be skinny.

Hmm I disagree. She is far more beautiful than Nnenna. Yes, she has Western features like her nose is long and her face is well-defined. That's why she's more beautiful. It depends on what we all consider beautiful though, but you'll agree with me that the widely accepted type of beauty is the western one, sad but true.

She looks pretty pregnant to me- and wow  she beautiful, love the colour of the dress against her skin. I wish her and her hubby all the best.

@ Mama Mary

Your destined to have pretty grand babies. 


@ Skidoc

No we do not all agree that Western beauty is more accepted or pleasing. Can you support this assertion? I think not. You would need empirical data from the countries/places where we dwell and identify with. This would include Asia and the "East". Nigeria faces "West" in the geographic and broader sense so perhaps this is how you've formed your views.

What popular "West-ern" culture considers to be European is not actually the property of Europeans alone though the "look" is pervasive in their societies. But, I've never met anyone who thinks that a "well-defined" face is a European or "West-ern" look. Wonders shall never cease. . .

the lady get bones

Thank you, Chinani.  I already have a beautiful baby grandson.  I haven't seen him yet.  They are all coming to the US soon from Nigeria.  I read this site to learn about Nigerian culture and attitudes so I can be somewhat informed about the country and be able to share more with my new Daughter-in-law.  I have been reading many books and studying maps and visiting web sites.  I love this site the best.  So many positive and kind people here.  But as to "ideals of beauty", one must admit that it is subjective.  However, as a person of northern European heritage (I'm pink, not white  ), I've always thought dark skinned people are more handsome.

Almost all Ethiopian women are beautiful.  They have beautiful skin and nice ass hair.

I had no idea I was arguing. Anyhow, your reply was utter rubbish.


Please, don't insult me. You stated your opinion and I stated mine. That's it. You are free to enumerate my arguments since they are so many and tell how each is baseless but don't try and put me down with rubbish.


It is because Europeans did not previously think of African women as beautiful. Did that make it so? Tell me, is Liya beautiful b/c she is an Estee model or is she beautiful b/c she is beautiful?

Agbani & Liya are successful b/c of the way they look. They are in the "vanity" business so it makes sense. But, no this does not "prove" anything other than that their beauty is accepted by a French/Euro company. Tell me, are their faces used in Lebanon or South Korea to sell make-up or perfume? If black faces are not used in this area does it "prove" one thing or another.
What a person believes does not make it so. But let me not argue. 



Beauty contests are old. But they are new to Nigeria. Perhaps you are too. . . What has happened in Nigeria is indicative of what happens in West Africa and other African nations. When a new idea/contest comes to a place, it takes awhile for the current people/culture to accept it and participate. For instance, the Miss Nigeria contest wasn't always popular but now it is. Agbani was the MBGN, a contest that did not begin until 1986. Miss World began in 1951. Should I subtract for you?

Let me tell you that the resources and training countries can devote to these girls can influence the outcome b/c it is a "vanity" pageant. So, if a country like Nigeria can not train these girls we will not be successful against other countries. Also, it is not in our culture to prance around in swimsuits, bikins or the like. The culture and people had to change and be open to beauty pagents before they could win, or is this news? If you read up on Agbani you'll find that her father thought about it for along time before he allowed her to even enter. They're several threads about Nigerian beauty pagents on Nairaland, go read.

Do you not know that Black, esp. dark, skin was deemed inferior even in this day and age! Men do not pick models etc. out of the kindness of their hearts they do it to move commerce so a woman's beauty is secondary when you are in places with a racial hierarchy.



No.



If beauty is subjective as I think and as you imply from your post, tell me, which list should I rely on? Yours? My own? Queen Elizabeth's? I'm not going to look for a list that doesn't exist when my opinion is that there is NO one "widely accepted" idea of beauty. There are many simultaneously accepted forms of beauty that can not be quantified due to the nature of beauty and beauty appreciation. For the sake of argument, since I like to indulge as you say, send me a list. . .



If someone said the world was flat would it matter how many people agree? You sound like a man who enjoys jumping on a band wagon and screaming ignorantly with the masses. The emperor has no clothes, but you would compliment him sha!



Is this where your ideas are formed? How can one look "Western"? I can change my clothes but not my nose. Also, women play to gallery.Meaning: they do try to anticipate what men like and do the best with what they have.  This doesn't mean they don't believe in their beauty! Come to Cali and you'll think different. In America the most popular plastic surgeries are breast augmentation and butt implants! (No kidding) And the women who have plastic surgeries most often are white women trying to achieve the BLACK AFRICAN FORM.

Mr. I am not sure which or what type of African women you are acquainted with. Maybe you live in an area where men think like you & the women have inferiority complexes. That has nothing to do with me or the African women I know. Here when people say you look "[my "tribe"]" it's a compliment. . .



Yes it does depend on what one considers beautiful. We agree on that. However you neglected to send me any empirical data on why Western beauty is the widely accepted one. You keep rattling off you opinion which, excuse me, doesn't me much to a stranger.



Yes I'm very well read. In fact, I read so "widely" that I know much of what's written is utter bullshit. Please, sir, don't read "widely", read wisely, you might learn something. You might learn that beauty in Western cultures is not static b/c the cultures are not monolithic and also change etc etc.


Then don't. Your ideas are provincial. None of your ideas are original so your silence won't hurt me.

 
This is all quite tiresome. . .I don't think your ideas are stupid only uninterrogated. Think if a European based company picks a woman with European features to model, does this mean that "Western beauty is widely accepted" or does it mean that the company markets similar faces to their consumers. You're mistaking capitalism for art or empirical data.

Dude speak for youself, so sad to see some of my Nigerian brothers brain washed by the western media.

If una won fight, make una carry am outside of Nairaland pls. Jeez! Every small thing argument.