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floyd
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Hi guys, I’m new to this forum and would like to give a big thumbs-up to the originator and the members.
I need to make a sort of lifetime career/educational decision and need inputs from as many people as possible.
So, I have 2 different student visas to study for an MBA. One is for the US (University of Florida) and the other is for the UK (University of Buckingham,). I’m meant to commence studies at either countries January 2008. I have a Bsc in Business Administration and 4 years of experience. Now, my question is which option should I choose based on the following criteria: 1. Possibility of getting a good job after graduation 2. Ease of eventually obtaining permanent residency 3. Quality of life
Thanks in advance for your contributions.
2 options - US and UK. Which one should I choose? Very Urgent!!!
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omogidi234 (m)
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If you already have a student visa for UK Congrats. I will advice you to opt for UK. I know for sure In Scotland you have 2 years to work legally after your studies. The rest of the UK put in motion something similar to that in July 2007 but it is just 1 year. However, you know the difference, you can evade tax In the US until you are caught while you cannot evade tax in the UK. You know the implication of paying tax from the little you have. I am sure you will know that is the reason why our people in the US can spend pay "anyhow" so to say unlike the ones in the UK. The choice is yours.
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shimfe (m)
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Guy if your claims are true. I 'll advice u opt for the US.Better quality Of life & any certificate from US has a far greater wieght than any part of the world.B4 u graduate u can find out from how to organise a stay, Congratulations & good luck
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wed123 (m)
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@ poster: WTF? are you considering the UK when you have a US visa? seriously? Are you f***ing nuts or what? O.k, I'm sorry, but I had to let the steam out. My dear friend, US is the "last bus-stop" and most people in the UK will give everything to move over to the states. I'll choose the states in a heartbeart. You're welcome man.
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eryck (m)
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1. Possibility of getting a good job after graduation
You will definately get a good job after graduation in either UK or US but i guess UK is known for better education than any where else in the world. 2. Ease of eventually obtaining permanent residency
Each country has its own immigration rules, but UK is known for its stringent rules. Based on that US is better. 3. Quality of life
Both has good Quality of life, but i know the fun in US cannot be compared to uk,it all boils down to your life style & what u want. Weigh your options IF I WERE TO BE IN YOUR SHOES I WILL OPT FOR US of A (land of many opportunites) How did you get both visas @ dsame time.    when peeps can't even get ONE lol ALL BEST MAN!
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Omonla (f)
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Much respect to the UK.
But if it was me, I would choose USA. Especially if you are paying for your education with conversion from Nigerian Naira and no scholarships. US schools are definitely cheaper, and Eryck has said it all for everything else.
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Bossman (m)
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I can only speak for the US. But each country has its advantages and disadvantages.
First of all, Univ. of Florida is a very good school. So, you will not have problems getting a job after getting an MBA from there. Secondly, the US probably has more opportunities for you after graduation, and it's likely easier to get permanent residence. Bottom line, it's easier to make it in the US than in the UK.
On a last note, you will probably see a lot of UK folks that would not mind moving to the US, versus the other way around.
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floyd
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Looks like more people are inclined towards the US so far. However, you know the difference, you can evade tax In the US until you are caught while you cannot evade tax in the UK.I am sure you will know that is the reason why our people in the US can spend pay "anyhow" so to say unlike the ones in the UK. The choice is yours.
Tax evasion?  funny criteria but I get your point all the same. I think I like the idea of "spending pay any how"  How did you get both visas @ dsame time.    when peeps can't even get ONE lol I pursued both visas simultaneously. I got the UK visa first though, and I feel it was a sort of catalyst to my getting the other one. Like the guy @ the US embassy asked me why I wanted to study in the US despite having a UK visa and I just told him that I felt US schools had a higher standard  . The dude nodded his head, smiled, and said “that’s right” (with so much pride). And that was it.
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eryck (m)
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Like the guy @ the US embassy asked me why I wanted to study in the US despite having a UK visa and I just told him that I felt US schools had a higher standard The dude nodded his head, smiled, and said “that’s right” (with so much pride). And that was it.
Thats one way round @ American Embassy (Americans and their EGO  ) Some1 was also given his visa @ American embassy because he said "of all my friends am the only person that has not visited America so i want to go and see how it really looks like". 
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bowa (m)
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Am so glad for you for having what thosands of people are dying for.All the same the two are both kool,but i'll want you to make research on the school that is most respected in the course you're going for.It's not about the fun of the country that matters,it's about what they've got to offer.best of luck
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shescute4 (f)
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lucky u.i'ld prefer the US.and as others have said,i guess the US will be your best bet.anyways,in whatever u do,all the best. 
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ksa2much (m)
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congrat on your visa approval well i will advice u to go for the us stuff because dere is much benefit indere please kindly mail me got sometin to discuss wit you my email add is ksa2much@yahoo.com thanks
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Democrat (m)
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Floyd
I am sorry, But i do not think you have either Visa. If you did you will not be having this conversation.
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floyd
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Floyd
I am sorry, But i do not think you have either Visa. If you did you will not be having this conversation.
Do you have to be sorry? 
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yodiyokun (f)
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It's either you do not have the visa or you have not done your research.
If you have done your research, we will not be having this conversation, this is a no-brainer.
US PERIOD.
As i dey Canada so, I still dey do US visa lottery
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debosky (m)
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yodiyokun where in Canada are you @? maybe we can hook up 
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almondjoy (f)
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You will have to investigate the school systems in the different countries to make a wise decision. Many schools have a system of "payment for degree" programmes and Uk and USA have such schools. If it is an accredited University within the system, then it does not matter if it is the UK or the USA as long as you get a sound education.
If you were talking of "socio-economics" and opportunities for the future as an immigrant not a student--that is another different matter.
As for getting job opportunites with an "MBA" after graduation. That is tricky since the market is flooded with MBA holders and unemployment rate is very high due to many factors including "prejudice". Most people do not trust "Nigerians" in the "business sectors"---world wide----- for reasons we all know about.
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floyd
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Omonla, eryck, Bossman, omogidi234, bowa, shescute4 , bignsirim, yodiyokun, almondjoy: thank y'all for your inputs.
For those who have suggested that I do some research, well, this is part of the research, or is it?. It's not like I lack knowledge of the two countries but I want to hear (and confirm) the facts from as many people as possible. And I'm getting a clear picture of it.
@ ksa2much: what is the something you want to discuss with me? We can discuss it right here.
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EloSela (f)
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@Wed123
'O.k, I'm sorry, but I had to let the steam out. My dear friend, US is the "last bus-stop" and most people in the UK will give everything to move over to the states. I'll choose the states in a heartbeart. You're welcome man.'
Er no thanks!
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awon boiz
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@poster congrats o!!!na US b d koko, moreso, one of my guy de that university gangan wey u de head, e de do im phd dere and e tak say 9jas yapa small for dere (atleast u no go feel lonley) d weather sef de tight plus u go get job after school, infact u must get  so floyd, WELCOME to da States 
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proo212 (m)
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@EloSela. Many Thanks! Not everybody wants to live in the US! Land of opportunities agreed but I'd rather stay here thank you very much. I'm sure you're very happy where you are. so am I P.S I'll take Canada over the US any day, @poster. If you have a good school in either country I'm sure you'll be OK. You can also go to INSEAD, IMS, ESCAP, ESMT and you'll be fine. But looks like in the US everyone has an MBA 
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imback (m)
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i think canada is the place to be now. 
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Sweet T (m)
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No place like The good 'ol USA ! especially Los Angeles, city of angels.
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omega25red (m)
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Well on advantage of being in the UK is the medical benefits you can get it for cheap but staying after your visa runs out you would have a hard time getting permanent residency it took my dad like 14yrs if not more in the US education is good but getting around undocumented is easier as in nobody will stop you in the street and ask you for your papers and try to deport you i heard that happens in the uk and you have so many chances to get ahead in the US it seems almost imposible as an illegal in the UK
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darfur (m)
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guy make i tell you something, relax for naija. this na honest yarns. the UK will reduce you to sub human levels psychologically and if you are not fortified with a thick skin you wont be able to stand it. i hear the US is even worse. this is an unfortunate prejudicial combination of being black and being african. add together the fact that you are nigerian, male,young(?) then you see that the system willl be seriously against you.
let me not discourage you. pursue your dreams, but i felt you need to know where you are heading to. so that you don't suffer a shock on arrival which may take 6 months to recover from.
honest thoughts of mine
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almondjoy (f)
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guy make i tell you something, relax for naija. this na honest yarns. the UK will reduce you to sub human levels psychologically and if you are not fortified with a thick skin you wont be able to stand it. i hear the US is even worse. this is an unfortunate prejudicial combination of being black and being african. add together the fact that you are nigerian, male,young(?) then you see that the system willl be seriously against you.
let me not discourage you. pursue your dreams, but i felt you need to know where you are heading to. so that you don't suffer a shock on arrival which may take 6 months to recover from. honest thoughts of mine
Laff wan kill me oooooooooooooooooh! Which other sub human level do you need to experience after living in Nigeria?  Mind you, they guy said he is going to school. Anything wrong with schooling abroad? 
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Sweet T (m)
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@Darfur
What year did you get deported from London? You sound so angry !
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olrotimi (m)
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would be blind dumb decision going back to uk after you were deported.but why can't your bum settle in naija 
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prince_onx
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OK Guy! You can NEVER EVER EVER have 2 student/study visa for 2 different Countries at the same time. Unless you're using two diff passport/names not to talk of US and UK same time. I can't even believe people are responding to this! GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
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darfur (m)
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@Darfur
What year did you get deported from London? You sound so angry !
@swee t angry? did i sound angry? wow  i was just talking. just my opinion. that's all. reason why i say it is this. . . many people are doing fine in naija and they think when they come here it'll be business as usual. . . . but it is not so. they get sooo so pissed and mad. but not like me, i was a poor dude in naija so when i came here there was no pride in me to stop me from doing whatever i have to do to get along but not these guys who are ?"big men" in naija. they complain so much that i pity them. by the way why do nigerians always change topic in the middle of an argument to degrade the other person who has a different opinion
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Sweet T (m)
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@Darfur
That is exactly the problem, EGO ! Nigerians have huge ego problems, Western world is about equality and there is no " Ranka dede" from any subordinates. It's really tough, living in Nigeria. Even if you have money, there are armed robbers everywhere, the political systems is highly unstable, there is even higher level of discrimination among the tribes, too much jealous and envy. I'm not saying western world by all means but atleast, they give you a chance to survive and get ahead. I don't know about London, but the USA gives you a very good shot at achieving your dream if you are legal. USA has offered me what Nigeria denied me.
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