Pilgrims, Did Jesus Read The Bible?

@pilgrims


We don tire for your going in circles without saying anything, you may a personal issue with babs, I am less concerned. Come to think of it, you of all people have been portraying yourself as an intellect, sending posts in all threads and even the one that is none of your business and here you are being asked questions, decided to turn it to personal issue. Wo baby, Babs is here for dialogue and needs your response.

It is very glaring that the bible you are having now is not the same message Moses and Jesus came with because it was compiled years after their demise and none of the so called authors were inspired hence the glaring contradictions.

So please leave babs out of this and answer those questions.

 

@olabowale,

The few minutes I have left online will be enough to rush through yours:


I would simply say that your understanding is deeply flawed. If you don't understand an issue, ask Christians what it means - and never assume to interpret the same Bible which you Muslims have rejected and do not believe in.

Jesus' presence has always been with Christians. He said so by Himself, and other verses confirmed the same:

(a) Matt. 18:20 -- "For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them."

(b) 1 John 4:13 -- "Hereby know we that we dwell in him, and he in us, because he hath given us of his Spirit.

(c) 1 John 3:24 --  "And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us."

If you persist in your problem of the Muslim attitude of making selective reading (choosing some to accept and rejecting others of equal importance), there's really no point of entry for you to engage in discussing what you have already made up your mind to DENY!

Olabowale, denying the Bible is of no value to me - it has never worked for me, and will never do so. When you are ready to be honest enough to acknowledge the simple truth that you find in the Bible, then we shall have occasion to discuss.

For now, I'm simply not interested in keeping up this gimmick of being  entertained by Muslim denials in order to accredit the Qur'an. That is a hideous duplicity - and yes, such attitudes will only destroy any guarantee of certainty I might have had in Islam!!

Pilgrims, Did Jesus Read The Bible?

@enitan2002,

There's no shame, but you should leave the blabbing machine to fool himself to the full. It is not as if there are no answers at all to his so-called question; but I have refused to offer him any more answers until he grows up and begins answering questions as well from others. Which one of you would suppose that several times when he proffered questions, pilgrim.1 has not answerd them? Why are you guys pretending to look the other way and allow him to continue in his duplicity?

I've stated quite simply the reason why I would not entertain his Islamic fraud UNTIL he stops the hideous game of "oya answer me first. . . after that, you MUST answer more questions" - when he himself NEVER seeks to answers questions apart from plaglarizing materials that are not his own and LYING that they are his "replies"?

Bros, I'm just having a break; but I'D advise you to simply crawl out and let the blabber sup up his imbroglio to the full. When he obliges answers to questions presented to him, I will then give him answers for any further concerns he may cop out from whereever he ferrets them.

Ciao.

Pilgrims,if there is no shame just answer the question.

I am NOT religious,so I am NOT muslim and NOT christian,so stop lying.
Pilgrims, Did Jesus Read The Bible?

(http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-90634.0.html#msg1648091)

Check the above and see why I will answer the question as soon as your jokes are done with. You can come back and pose the same question - and confirm the fraud you are. Please let us see you confirm it!

How can the bible read the bible?

@pilgrim.1

I went to that link you supplied but saw no answers to those questions

Have a lovely day

Lol . . . . I got tired of dealing with the bros long ago - after i discovered that he "deals with FACTS NOT Be-LIE-EVEs"
Or better yet, "Be lying to the sons of Eve"
_{Men, wetin eye no go see.}

hopefully.

Did Jesus Christ read the Gospel?

The Gospel is about the life of Jesus Christ, remember the Holy Bible is divided into two, The Old Testament and The New Testament.  So in essence, some of His Miracles and His Sayings are just confirmations of prophecies in the Old Testament.

What else do you want to know?

@Ndipe: The verse in the NT, that says Jesus went about the places preaching the Gospel, what does that verse mean? It is not teaching the OT and definately not teaching about his life, according to you. Since the four gospels in the Bible, never mind others equally important, but the christians refused to accept, are about his life. Which Gospel did he teach then?

My proofs are from the Holy Bible@Jerrymania.

@Cgift: Go look into your book. See the many discrepancies. Within the NT, paul disagrees with Jesus and others who knew Jesus. Well we do not have the writing of Jesus or the Gospel that he preached about the places he went. So Paul and others like him are the latest in town. Even then, christianity has no single Bible as the standard bearer from the onset. The muslims just have look and point to you. Between your rank, there are so many diffrent types, one not totally agreeing with another. Even your learned are saying that, while they dispute amongst themselves.

How then you are saying all these things? Tell me from the Bible, what should be the response of the community to illegal sex, even though consentual, what about rape, stealing when there is no need ti do that, what about  any form of immorality? Just one!

In the OT, the rules of communual relationship is changed, even though Jesus did not dare todo it, except to fulfill it. All its jots, etc. Then paul changed the rule and pattern of Jesus, which then allowed him to change the Laws of Moses, etc. maybe thats how you Yoruba, who is not from the children of israel got in under amazing grace. There used to be a film of that title, in the past.

Who is unjust, the one who changed the laws of God which were given to prophets, or the prophets who delivered and followed the Laws? The laws which a later prophet never dared to change, but fulfilled even the jot in the laws. Yet this Eraser of God's laws claimed the prophet that fulfilled even the Jot in the laws is God Almighty!

@Cgift: Evidently, the typical Yoruba christian, which you are, does not know that there are norther Christians. Islam, contrary to the belief of Nigerians, is not a northern Nigerian religion. The religion is not even Arab people religion. These two people are not 100% muslims.

Unfortunately, you just talk and have no cultural sense. My children, are cultured in a manner that, InshaAllah, will not steal, and there is no fear of them being amputated.

However, in Islam, Allah's mercy is limitless, hence a first time offender is not usually exposed. However, when the type of bad behaviour, like stealing, becomes a second nature of the thief, he becomes careless. Hence, he has no moral compass to distinguish this evil behaviour from what is morally sound. God Almighty, may, if He wills, expose the thief, to be caught, in the act of thievery. The amputees, are not first time offenders. If the Northern Nigerians muslims practise Shariah, properly, there is no blame in the judgements handed down. I do not live in Nigeria and am not a scholar of Islam to seriously comment.

What I know, however, is enough to make me live a relatively honest life. I do not engage in any of the others may engage in. For sure, there is a rule that the Muslims have to follow; it involves in Shariah court, witness and hearing procedure before decisions and carrying out the justice, about any offense.

You failed to realise that Jesus himself did not throw any stone at the woman, he used wisdom and mercy from his Lord Allah to extracate, from the peril. Yet the condition of Jesus , all along was that all the laws and rulings given to Moses were to be fulfilled including the littlest of jot! Moses law called for the stoning. So why didn't Jesus stone the woman, himself? Except, there was part of Moses law that allows for mercy and Jesus used that part, which the Jews had always neglected. Afterall, Moses expressed mercy, from his Lord, Allah, toward Pharaoh, for a while, before the drowning at the sea.

In any case, if Jesus, showed mercy on the poor and helpless woman, it was not Jesus' sole perogative. It was from his Lord, who had instructed him so.

Muhammad and his supporters, upon conquering Makka, did not visit a wholesale slaughter upon his former arch enemy, who as a people ran him and his supporters out their native city. He declared general amnesty over the city and that has never been equal in the history of mankind! It is a whole city, full of people who had offended him and treated him terribly.

Yet, Muhammad, like Jesus in the Qur'an, was not arrogant and not proud. But gave all the glory th his Creator.

Ironic that some muslims try to incorporate mohammed into The Holy Bible while denying the Authenticity of the Holy Scriptures. Make up your mind!