Who Is Fooling Who?

Popular and unpopular have the same parents; what ever goes up in the sky also comes down on the floor when the time is right.

Just chill and wait.

let them continue to bark while Ribadu is praised worldwide.

despite the low profile the efcc has enjoyed in the present YA administration, blaming ribadu begs the question of the issue being discussed. in a very polarised nigeria in terms of development, it is amazing how we take garbage from our so called leaders and when there is an opportunity to call them to order and account for the misappropriation of funds, some of us see it differently. perhaps those few will be pleased to wake up tomorrow only to discover that the status quo has diminished 10 fold.

i don't understand why the the EFCC should be singled out in this respect, from my understanding there are other agencies involved in the WAC - ICPC, CCB, or better yet the police, i'm sure we'll have an endless swipe at the latter  .

Can you please explain to Nigerians:

1. why we can not boost ICPC to do whatever it is you think EFCC are not doing?

2. Why must it be outright scrap of the EFCC?

3. Is continuity a crime???

paddyman, in the interest of national peace and security please translate whatever you say in english so we can all tag along. ok.

Mckren
I will answer all your questions, unlike what you've shown us in the past.

Question#1
why we can not boost ICPC to do whatever it is you think EFCC are not doing?

Please double check my record on Nairaland. I've recommended this idea in the past; infact I was the first one that introduced the fact that implementing EFCC was never a good idea.
ICPC could have been empowered instead of implementing the second organization. Please go and check the description of both organizations' duties and you will quickly realize that there was no reason to create EFCC.
But OBJ had his plans.
REASON: ICPC members are old schools, very educated, full of experience and can never never be intimidated by the president. The president knew this and he also understood that ICPC as a political tool wouldn't go well.
Hence, he went ahead and introduced EFCC, and gave the upper hand to a single entity, but he retained the main remote control, which he pushed when ever he felt like it.
This is how EFCC became a pure political tool.

Question#2
Why must it be outright scrap of the EFCC?

My man, nothing personal, but it is known by many, world wide that as long as EFCC is involved with war against corruption, Nigeria as a nation will never never move forward.
REASON: It is obvious that OBJ is still pretty much in control, it is also still obvious that the main targets are the insubordinate ones, the ones that did not listen or obey OBJ's insensitive rules.
How can we be successful if fighting corruption is all about being selective?
Furthermore, abolishing EFCC all together also means abolishing the opportunities for governors to use OBJ as an excuse. It will make things a lot clearer and eradicate all these unnecessary/ unwanted obstacles.

Question#3
Is continuity a crime?

As long as EFCC continues with this style of operation, we will also continue to sing that old song for many many years to come with absolutely BIG ZERO to accomplish.
Infact, I feel that EFCC is giving this thieves enormous opportunities and reasons to remain free.

Looks like you did not understand my question let alone answering it, question 1 was hoping that you will tell us why boosting ICPC to do more while maintaining the EFCC is not an option???


BigB1

I have tried as much as I can to say words that you wont find offensive these days, I simply have no clue why you are celebrating the ICPC that has nothing to show in the WAC while vilifying the EFCC.


Political or not, those EFCC probed has questions of corruption to answer. Except you are telling me that EFCC should not probe anybody who is a reknowned politician.

Look, one of the tennets of democracy is freedom of speech. This freedom of speech includes the right to tell people what they don't want to hear.
You have every right to say exactly what you dislike about the EFCC, even it is they standing between you and your business interests. Then it is up to Nigerians to figure out whether they will rather support your "business" or "vilify EFCC for ilegitimately obstructing your business".

Most Nigerians are educated, even an 18yr old undergraduate will easily figure out the defects in most of your arguments, that you think you can promote such a view of the world in 21st century Nigeria is contemptous to say the least.

We cant rule out the little done by ribadu just as well cant also rule it out that he has been sooooo selective

That will be BigB1's happiest day on earth. Unfortunately for him, enough Nigerians are "awake" and do
understand the role the EFCC is playing.

Lets for argument sake assume that OBJ's son who just graduated from law school bought a house for about $500,000 (N60million), and IBB son is alleged to own 24% of Globacom, which one of these cases should the resources of EFCC (funded partly by foreign countries) be devoted to investigating? 

I am not sure how much Globalcom is worth, but its safe to bet that a 24% stake in Globacom can easily translate to over $240 million (over N30Billion).  Should the resources of the EFCC be spent in trying to repossess a $500,000 (N60Million) asset for the state or should it be spent on chasing the $240million (N30billion) assets?

For all it was worth, it was nice reading that IBB's son was arrested! Never before had any son of the
mighty Nigerian leaders been detained. Acts like that and more are the reason while the majority of
Nigerians support the EFCC and the IBBs, Atikus, and the AGF wants it scrapped - they are ruffling the
right feathers!

"Big B1

Go and form your own EFCC, but if you cant, please go and wipe your anus with sand paper.

@BigB1 - you have my apologies.


Did you use really the word strategy?  As for what is the difference between a man that stole
2 Toyota Corolla and Lambhorghini, let's put your question in a much clearer context. The least
expensive Lamborghini is about $200,000 (give or take) which will fetch about 8 Toyota Corolla
(at about $25,000 each).  Now, $240million of IBB's son stake in Globalcom will buy about 480
type of houses that OBJ's son bought. If indeed we are concerned about strategy, I ask again,
should the EFCC spend $500,000 to recover $500,000 or will it make more strategic and economic
sense for them to spend $500,000 or even $1million in recovering $240million?

Iyke-D:

FYI: your argument is not the issue.
Here is one of the issues: "You do not arrest a man before looking for evidence to prosecute him.  It is the other way round.”

Furthermore, it is very sad and a big shame that this is how most of us see things. And this is also one of the reasons why we find absolutely nothing wrong with the way EFCC operates.
Unbelievable!

It is not about kobo and naira; it's about doing your job accordingly, professionally, lawfully and fairly (all belong to the same parents).

and stupid?

It is absolutely impossible for folks to have a reasonable discussion with out mentioning that name "IBB".
Damn, the man has been gone for many many years and still many just can't leave that name alone.

Why don't you just ask EFCC to go and arrest IBB?

The last time I checked, EFCC as a failed organization is still the main idea of this discussion; let's remain focused, IBB did not implement this organization.