mahn y are u so paranoid , i never accused u of using a pirated windows , i just asked if u buy anything windows or u download them from illegal site, and instead of giving a straight answer u just went on about how 419 culture don kill nigerians finish, well i let that pass ,
Not everyone around you has your latent ability to defraud.
man i don't defraud, who his dissing now ?
I work for a living and i'm easily able to afford genuine versions of Windows OS. I use a VAIO laptop, and it came pre-installed with Windows Xp with the SP2 built in. All my friends and colleagues have similar setups. So it's extremely offensive, not to mention stupid to assume stuff like that.
mahn thank god for u but how many people in nigeria can afford to pay 22,000 for a an original windows vista,or 10,000 for original win xp , thank God for Otigba, if not for them and computer village , linux would be King in this country,
the point u miss is that piracy is the number one factor that sustains windows in many developing countries in the world, it shields people from the real cost of using windows, even those that have the money don't have the means of payment , so u get an os for say 22,000 (i.e vista) then u discover that u still have to buy an office program for $200 (office 2007) that is like fifteen thousand naira ,ok since there are free AV programs u are lucky, but when it comes to buring cds u are not so lucky u have to pay about 14,000 naira for a program like nero ,ok let me stop at that , but do the maths 22,000 +15,000+14,000 = 5,1000 , that is is the price of a good deskop , so tell me how many Nigerians can afford that, and what is the sense in making an os that cost 22,000 and does not come with an office program and a burning software , not even an anti virus, when u can get an os for free, that comes with this features and more by default, so if that is not exploitation , then what is,
There's nothing EVIL about developers developing for money. many do it for passion AND money, and they are not mutually exclusive. Money makes the world go round, and people expect to get paid for their efforts. It's as simple as that. Go ask your precious Mark Shuttleworth how he made his money, if not from a capitalist system.
i never said there was anything evil in developers making money for what there do, ijust said that free open source alternative are better than their expensive over bloated windows counterpart, e.g k3b is better than nero, gimp and inkscape work better for me than photoshop and corel draw , so i will be a mungu for paying for sumtin i can get for free, or don't u think ?
Linux remains a viable alternative to Windows, and the fact that it's free is a great alternative. But calling people 'mugus'
i never called any body a mungu , i just said i wasnt a mungu , cus i can't pay for something that i can get for free
because they recognise the advantages Windows has over linux (in their own opinions) is not only silly, but extremely immature. As i said before, not even Linux's inventor (Linus Torvalds) goes into bashfest mode the way you guys do
hey hold it there , recognise the advantages of windows over linux , hhahahahahahah , the people u claim to recognise the advantage of windows over linux many of them have not even tried linux before, or those that did used things like redhat,arch linux,or gentoo , these are distros of linux that even me dey fear, there are linux for gurus , u see linux is very big there are different distros , each to your needs , i prefer ubuntu and i tell u windows has nothing near that, ubuntu floors windows , before i tried ubuntu i spent many times reading about it, even then when i started it took some times geting used to the linux way, that is life u just have to spend some times learning new things, that does not mean that windows is better , it just mean that linux was new to me, many new user feel that the success of their linux depend on how windows like it works for them, but with little time they adjust , my room mate in school , my girl friend, strangers i met in internet cafes have all begged me to install ubuntu on their system, and when i do there make it their default os, many of then are just amazed at how things work so seamlessly, infact very few people have seen ubuntu on my system and have preferred windows to it,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linus_Torvalds
Unlike many open source icons, Torvalds maintains a low profile and generally refuses to comment on competing software products. Torvalds generally stays out of non-kernel-related debates. Although Torvalds believes that "open source is the only right way to do software", he also has said that he uses the "best tool for the job", even if that includes proprietary software.[9
really ? but that is strange cus i once heard him say "I don't actually think that something like Vista will change how people work that much," Torvalds told Computerworld. "I think it, to some degree, has been over-hyped as being something completely new and I don't actually think it is, "One of the things we will probably notice is the hardware requirements for Vista are obviously much higher, and that could end up helping Linux just because people notice that you can run Linux on machines and have it work very well even if that same machine couldn't run Vista at all," he said, "
http://www.linuxworld.com.au/index.php/id;261269498;fp;2;fpid;1 basically i always jump into any linux windows debate cus that it was one of such debate that made me giv linux a try , so who knows i just might bring u too over , hmmm that would be very nice,
I use Windows Xp, and as far as i'm currently concerned it does the job for me. It also allows me do something i cannot replicate on Linux: Play modern 3d games. Until when you guys can succeed in properly emulating Direct X 9 and allow me play Call of Duty 4 and gears of war on ubuntu, for me it remains a no-go area.
hmm u are right about the games bro , we have games to on linux but we can't stand what there have on windows, but WTF , I still have my vista partition, u see that is just another advantage of linux it allows u to dual boot windows wont give u that option doing installation, so thanks to linux i can always use windows and a slave os for gaming, about emulating direct x , i laugh again , we don't need to bro linux uses open gl which does a good job, it is just that many gamers prefer to port their games to direct x cus the market is big, not bcus open gl is inferior if u doubt , check out compiz that shit murders your bloated areo effect( that needs 1gb ram to run) to high heavens and it would work on 256 of ram, and compiz uses open gl ,
i installed Ubuntu on my Ps3 for study purposes. But it does take some considerable work to get many things working properly in linux, so on that count i'm rather comfortable with windows.
to start i never saw ps3 as one of the hardware were ubuntu can be installed, ubuntu is for desptops! there are working on a version compatible for ps3 , if u need a linux for ps3 get yellow dog , if u don't want probs why don't u read about ubuntu how to install on a system dual boot, things are may be hard if u have never used linux before but u can read guides online and it would help u, linux is not windows, so there4 it does not work like windows does not mean its hard or things are hard to setup, no, it just mean that u try to do thing the windows way, try linux with a open mind read guides on line on understanding the basics once u do and u get started u are done, then u can start having fun, look if u give windows to a person that has not seen it before he too would have probl;em getting things going, how to install programs and unistall them how to use control panel might be a problem for him, same with ubuntu its not hard at all , u just have to understnd how things run on it,
Microsoft and Apple are companies that try to make a profit for themselves and their shareholders. To do this they sell their proprietary OS for money. I do not consider that to be exploitation. Why would i? You cannot get windows anywhere else for less, if you could, that would have been exploitation. You can get a very different alternative for free, but that doesn't mean exploitation. the fact that i can borrow Tupac CDs from a friend and rip them to my iPod for free doesn't mean that iTunes music store is exploiting me when it offers me Tupac songs to download at 99 cents.
look vista is exploitative , its just a windows dressing of windows xp , with a better security , that was copied from linux and a gui stolen form apple. but poorly implimented. that is why it is having all the problems, so after the initiall plan for vista failed , bill just called some kid from visual styles to develop a gui, and added security features stolen from the design of unix, spend billion on marketing, arm twisting the computer companies to stop shipping xp, added drm, and whala , u have a new operating system form micro $oft, splited into basic,home,enterperice and ultimate, the smallest cost 22 thousand naira, add the price of an extra one gb of ram plus the little cal we did earlier , then u might just get what i mean,
You might want to think, to ask yourself why it took exposure to a community of generous people before your own generousity was unlocked.
yeah u are right i was a stingy bastard on windows before until ubuntu delivered me and made me generous ,
Go find out how much Bill Gates (the person you zealots bash the most) has given to charity. Find out how many billions he's spent in the research for cures to numerous deadly diseases, not least of all the newly resurgent and drug resistant tuberculosis.
omo that is really loudable, but u want to know why we bash him,
we the guy is always on the nick on linux threaten us with lawsuits about how we stole everything from windows , from the mouse ,to some other things we wont talk about, man do u know how many lectures that man has said shit about linux, omo i wont lie we diss him very much, cus he does the same to us ,
Every so often, linux users on different linux forums blithely urge me to leave windows Xp and move to linux. they urge me to emulate windows in VMware if i really need the windows experience. Now i wonder, the Windows Xp that many of you guys emulate in VMware, is it legally purchased? Because, if it is it's also costing you money like the rest of the windows 'freaks'. if it isn't then where's the moral high ground to condemn people that buy pirated windows OS in alaba? Grin
just like u we use the installation disks that came with our windows lappy for virtualisation , and i only use my virtualised windows for show off, i am completely independent of windows,
Bottom Line?
There are valid reasons why i cannot make a full switch to linux at this point in time.
man bring your lappy let me install and pimp ubuntu for u, them no go force u, before u switch, come i have used windows i know everything there is to know in windows, abi no be windows? wetin u wan tell me about am, but there are a million things i can show u on linux, that would leave u WOW!, give it a try mahn , not on a ps3 o , on a real desktop , like that your sony vaio lappy hmm that would be yummy,
time. Millions of people around the world find windows to be adequate for their needs and are quite willing to part with the money to purchase it.
wrong many people don't part their money to buy windows, it always comes preinstalled with their laptop and systems, so there don't really have a choice, many havnt even heard of linux cus we don't do advert , linux does not believe in making advert, there prefer to spend the money on making the linux kernel work better, so as a result many people don't know about linux, and the few that do still have the wrong notion that linux is for only gurus, and that it has no gui, but a friends mum runs linux,a truck driver in kenya runs it,i run it, my girl friends uses it, a friends who is more of a club boi than a geek uses it, all becus some one told them about it, the first time i heard ubuntu i tot it they were a computer maker, until someone told me about it on Nairaland, so u see many people use windows cus there don't know that they have an alternative, not bcus the feel
windows is best,
you've gotten an alternative, good for you. but leave windows users alone.
i don't use it mahn, i don't need it, but i have to bring more people to the light and to do this i have to make them realise that there is something better than windows
Windows users spend some time fixing security issues, rebooting and contending with the odd crash. linux users spend een more time chasing down dependencies and running command line code to get things to work the way they want.
wrong again, not about the windows, about the linux, there is a prgram called synaptic that would install all your program and its dependencies while u sip a cup of tea, i even heard there want to bring something like that to windows, and for the very few programs not in synaptics u just have to double click on them and there would download the dependecies for u ,and about the copmmand line u can run ubuntu without using command, everything is point and click, even then the little command u have to learn are easy and u can copy and paste,
i don't know where u get your facts from but , they do not represent the current state of ubuntu linux
Bottom line is not one of these OS (including Mac) is perfect. use what you can afford.
that i agree
but don't forget my offer , lets end this debate, i fit come your house then we try out ubuntu and vista side by side,
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