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FSU
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It is common amongst some pretencious Nigerians to hear ''Igbos are bad'', ''Igbos are this'', ''Igbos are that''. Yet, Nigeria is not letting them go, when Igbos clearly want out. I thought people ordinarily want to do away with bad things?
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FSU
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This is a short article from a Nigerian on this topic: Lets be honest to our selves for Once!!! Written by oluwale Naturally, Igbos are very strong ethnic group. Nigeria only won the war by the help of Britain. Biafran's have oil blocks in Abia, Imo and now Huge oil in Anambra state. In Orji River they have dam for electricity, in Enugu they have Coal. In Umuleri in Anambra state they have Aluminum, In Ebonyi they have farms for agriculture. In Nnewi they have factories for motorcycle spare parts. In Aba they produce most of the shoes u are using today, don't mind the made in italy they wrote on it. "So lets be honest for once" Nigeria don't want them to go because of all these natural gift and their intelligence in nature. I am a yoruba and every Nigerian will beleive with me that Igbos has everything. Okay let's look at international level, the world bank, the USA fastest computer that is used for internet today, the most skilled doctor and the others, all are Igbos not Hausa or yoruba. For great journalist you have Achebe and Soyinka. So tell me why will Nigeria allow them to go. They are the Main Nigerians others are just fellow Nigerians. I was laughing when I saw one comment posted by one guy. It is quite funny. You don't really know what happened during the war. No country fully supported Biafran. Even some Yorubas soldiers are the people that helped to train biafran soldiers. Let me tell you, If you have Biafran today lots of Nigerians in Yoruba and middle belt will go with them. Think when you have low population with that kind of resources. Then You will understand how rich Biafra will be. Lets stop acting and face reality. Igbos should not be pushed to leave Nigeria. They should be pampered. The same goes to South South who are Igbos but were being separated by federal government in order to divide them. When the time comes everybody will know where he/she belongs to, Please stop pushing them, If Igbos leave, that country will left with shaft. Be wise because the war you think Nigeria won wasn't truly won by them but was won by Britain. An Ignorant man cannot lead professors because He Obasanjo, Gowon and others are all afraid of the Igbos because they are highly Intelligent more than them. "Let be Honest for Once" http://www.vanguardngr.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1552&Itemid=99999999&limit=1&limitstart=1 |
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FSU
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A bad egg should b thrown away abi?
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FSU
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Instead of being allowed to contaminate others.
But in this case, the bad egg is being eaten and yet the shell is held on tightly to.
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texazzpete (m)
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hmm Coulda sworn Wole Soyinka wasn't an Igbo man  And as for 'USA internet fastest computer', that's pretty amusing shyte! |
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willy*2
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Nigeria nay MAD and CONFUSED country,
IBO'S don tell them by day and night, it's no more a secret, that they are not Nigeria's but GREAT BIAFRANS.
But because Nigerias are MAD, CONFUSED, DEAF. they will not let then go.
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OduduwaSon
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Carry go now, who's stopping you.
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dayokanu (m)
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Go now! to your land locked Biafra. As long as you don't encroach on other peoples land. Because during the Civil war Biafra army entered places in the South South,
even Ore in the South West before they were stopped by the Federal Army. Most Igbos don't even want Nigeria to break Go and ask the trader in Alaba if he would
like to relocate to his new country and do Business from Nnewi? Or if Pascal Dozie would like to relinquish his estate in Lagos and relocate Diamond bank in Mbaise?
Or the other Igbo's due to their industry making milions all over Nigeria i think its the lazy, unsuccesful or Politically frustrated ones amongst them that keep shouting of Biafra
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Afam (m)
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@dayokanu,
Nigeria fought to prevent the Igbos from leaving for a reason, what is that reason?
Landlocked? In case you missed your geography lesson River Niger is actually a boundary when you look at the South East, I am sure those training you on ethnic studies failed to teach you that.
Meanwhile, with 3 states producing crude oil (not forgetting that Anambra sits on top of what Nigeria chooses to call strategic reserve), coal in Enugu and other mineral resources in Ebonyi the South East has what it takes to become the most developed nation in Africa in less than 5 years.
I have carefully left out the South South to show that the notion that Biafra cannot survive on its own is pure fallacy. After all we have a full blooded Igbo man as the governor of Rivers State Chibuike Amaechi. Even Delta has its capital in Asaba, an Igbo area, so what are we really talking about?
Coal alone can guarantee steady power supply (the US gets about 40% of its electricity from coal fired power plants) in the South East under 3 years.
With the dredging of the Niger and upgrading of the airports majority of the traffic (both goods & services and personnel) that go through the the Ports in Lagos and MMA will be diverted to the East.
Next time think before you pour out what your masters have been teaching you.
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ow11 (m)
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With the dredging of the Niger and upgrading of the airports majority of the traffic (both goods & services and personnel) that go through the the Ports in Lagos and MMA will be diverted to the East.
what do u mean by dredging? how can dredging the niger river make onitsha or oguta a sea port? uninformed nitwit! where in the world do u have seaports inland? because a river flows by it. tell your igbo brothers in alaba to relocate to Nnewi before talking about a make believe sea port! at least it is more realistic. The Nigerians fought against secession because Biafra would have owned all the oil fields in Bayelsa, riversand Akwa Ibom states plus many more offshore feeding Nigeria today. Don't count on the miserable fields in Imo and Abia state or the 'fabled oil' in anambra to sustain a landlocked state. If u feel igbos can sustain themselves, then let the present governors use their allocation wisely and develop their states. Until then don't think forming biafra would change your situation, lack of accountability would still plague the new state and thus all those 'potentials ' u mentioned would sound like the same 'potentials' Nigeria currently has. |
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willy*2
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The Nigerians fought against secession because Biafra would have owned all the oil fields in Bayelsa, riversand Akwa Ibom states plus many more offshore feeding Nigeria today. Don't count on the miserable fields in Imo and Abia state or the 'fabled oil' in anambra to sustain a landlocked state.
MUMU, BLIND IDIOT. SO, IBO of River State are landlocked, |
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FSU
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what do u mean by dredging? how can dredging the niger river make onitsha or oguta a sea port? uninformed nitwit!
where in the world do u have seaports inland? because a river flows by it.
tell your igbo brothers in alaba to relocate to Nnewi before talking about a make believe sea port!
at least it is more realistic.
The Nigerians fought against secession because Biafra would have owned all the oil fields in Bayelsa, riversand Akwa Ibom states plus many more offshore feeding Nigeria today. Don't count on the miserable fields in Imo and Abia state or the 'fabled oil' in anambra to sustain a landlocked state.
If u feel igbos can sustain themselves, then let the present governors use their allocation wisely and develop their states. Until then don't think forming biafra would change your situation, lack of accountability would still plague the new state and thus all those 'potentials ' u mentioned would sound like the same 'potentials' Nigeria currently has.
This one reasons from his anus. When has being landlocked become a means to poverty? Botswana is the second richest country in Africa. It is landlocked and actually desertified. Switzerland, Luxembourg and Austria are amongst the most developed countries in the world. They are landlocked. Most African countries are sorrounded by huge volumes of water, yet they are the poorest countries in the world Plus, the oil in Igboland is more than sufficient for the Igbo. There is oil and gas in Imo, Abia, Enugu and Anambra. In any case, in the next fifty years or so, oil will become a moribund commodity, as biofuels take centre stage. It is only retrogressive and scientifically undeveloped minds that will continue to hope on dependency on oil. between, what is this nonsense about Biafra wanting Ijaw or the Niger Delta for oil? Who wants to be with an Ijaw man, who are backstabbers anyways? There is enough oil in Abia, Imo, Anambra and Enugu states to satisfy the Igbo. You can find the information about oil in Anambra and Enugu here http://www.rmrdc.gov.ng/states/Anambra.htm and http:// www.rmrdc.gov.ng/states/Enugu.htm. When you add these to the oil in Abia and Imo, it is clear that Igbos do not need Ijaw oil to survive. Thanks to Yaradua for returning 46 oil wells ceded to Rivers state back to Abia. We are grateful. Nevertheless, we want a biafran state that is homogenous (Igbo people only). That is not so much to ask for from a tottering decrepit country (Nigeria) |
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FSU
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what do u mean by dredging? how can dredging the niger river make onitsha or oguta a sea port? uninformed nitwit!
where in the world do u have seaports inland? because a river flows by it.
Apparently this guy is living in stone age. The point is that countries sign bilateral agreements. The pulling of Biafra from Nigeria does not mean that the two countries have become mortal enemies. We are still ECOWAS, afterall. River Niger has to be discussed between the two countries, with Biafran interest on Biafra's mind. |
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Afam (m)
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what do u mean by dredging? how can dredging the niger river make onitsha or oguta a sea port? uninformed nitwit!
where in the world do u have seaports inland? because a river flows by it.
Look for the meaning of sea port, read it, understand it and come back. If that river as you call it can handle a cargo ship then all that it takes to have goods and services shipped directly to the "river" would have been in place. Still hung on the same rubbish about Igbos wanting Ijaw oil? At least all the thieving presidents are not Igbos and the Ijaws the last time I checked are complaining not rejoicing. |
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ow11 (m)
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@Afam and FSU please tell me where a seaport operates inland because a river was dredged.It is just a silly idea that doesn't make sense A landlocked country can be prosperous but i doubt if biafra will because the same corruption ravaging Nigeria will surely ravage Biafra. Your governors are not any better than the governors of other states If oil isn't an issue why are u harping about fabled oil wells in Anambra and enugu? ;DPlease form Biafra,at least when u guys relocate, u'll harvest all ur houses in Kano, Lagos and Portharcourt and replant them in Enugu  |
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FSU
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ow11
I am making oil an issue because you (and people like you) made it an issue in the first place. Human capital is the most potent capital for economic development and you will agree that Igbos have this capital in abundance. As for corruption in Biafra, leave that for the Biafrans to handle. Do not cry more than the bereaved.
I did not discuss the issue of ''sea port'' with you. I know that for a fact a river port can be made out of River Nigeria. With bilateral agreements (Biafra may have to pay some tax or something) the river port can be made more accesible by dredging the river Niger out to the sea. The new Nigeria will need money to run itself, and Igbo business men who need a port inlet will have to pay for it. Igbos business men are capable of this. An extension of the river port will be a dry port, which actually is already being built (in a 100 hectare of land) near Aba in Abia state.
Why do you refer to the oil in Enugu and Anambra as fabled? These oil wells have been kept as ''strategic reserve'' by the Fed govt, just like the US kept many of its oil wells, for the rainy day. Go and read the links I provided. If you cannot discuss intelligently, then no point discussing with you at all.
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ow11 (m)
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Nigeria keeping strategic reserve is like a black man buying sun tan lotion!
when nigeria can not effectively count its population, it is keeping oil for strategic reasons. Just because someone decided to type petroleum on a 'govt' website doesnt make it true. afterall the Nigerian govt told us education for all by the year 2000.
Where did the seismic exploration take place before it was concluded that there is oil in Anambra. How much oil is there. Just because there are blue shales in Lokpanta does not mean the oil is trapped somewhere close by. Presence of oil bearing rocks doesnot mean oil accumulation. This is the same problem with the Fika shales in Borno, Hausa people will not allow us rest about oil in their locality.
Why would a country allow another to dredge a river to open a new port in their country when the former already has a seaport? the instances of inland ports are within a country not quite like the type Biafra would have to do.
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Afam (m)
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@Afam and FSU
please tell me where a seaport operates inland because a river was dredged.It is just a silly idea that doesn't make sense
One good thing about a public forum is that it gives one ample time and space to show the world how stupid one can get. Short of going into a lecture here the content below is from the link someone posted as I noticed you shamelessly avoided the issue when facts made nonsense of your position based on warped sense of reasoning. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Inland port From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia • Ten things you may not know about Wikipedia • Jump to: navigation, search It has been suggested that Inland harbor be merged into this article or section. (Discuss) The term inland port is used in two different but related ways to mean either a port on an inland waterway or an inland site carrying out some functions of a seaport. Contents [hide] * 1 As a port on an inland waterway * 2 As an inland site with seaport function o 2.1 Advantages of inland location * 3 Examples on inland waterways * 4 Examples of inland sites * 5 See also * 6 References [edit] As a port on an inland waterway An inland port in the wide sense, as used in common speech, is simply a port on an inland waterway such as a river, lake or canal. The United States Army Corps of Engineers publishes a list of the Top 20 Inland US. Ports for 2003 and for this purpose states that 'Inland Ports' are ports that are located on rivers and do not handle deep draft ship traffic. The list includes familiar ports such as St. Louis, Pittsburgh, and Memphis.[1] [edit] As an inland site with seaport function The term inland port is also used in a narrow sense in the field of transportation systems to mean a rather more specialised facility that has come about with the advent of the shipping container in international transport. Rather than goods being loaded and unloaded in such ports, shipping containers can just be transferred between ship and road vehicle or ship and train. The container may be transferred again between road and rail elsewhere and the goods are only loaded or unloaded at their point of origin or final destination. Shipping containers allow some functions traditionally carried out at a seaport to be moved elsewhere. Examples are the functions of receiving, processing through customs, inspecting, sorting, and consolidating containers going to the same overseas port. Container transfer at the seaport can be speeded up and container handling space can be reduced by transferring functions to an inland site away from the port and coast. Distribution may also be made more efficient by setting up the link between inland site and seaport as, say, a high-capacity rail link with a lower unit cost than sending containers individually by road. The containers are still collected from their origins or distributed to their ultimate destinations by road with the transfer happening at the inland site. An Inland Port' is just such an inland site linked to a seaport. This kind of inland port does not require a waterway. It is often written with initial capitals to indicate a difference to the common usage. Key features of an Inland Port are the transfer of containers between different modes of transportation (intermodal transfer) and the processing of international trade. This differentiates an inland port from a container depot or transport hub.[2] The term inland port may also be used for a similar model of a site linked to an airport or land border crossing rather than a seaport. The definition of inland port in the jargon of the transportation and logistics industries is: "An Inland Port is a physical site located away from traditional land, air and coastal borders with the vision to facilitate and process international trade through strategic investment in multi-modal transportation assets and by promoting value-added services as goods move through the supply chain". — Center for Transportation Research, University of Texas.[3] Inland Ports may also be referred to as dry ports or intermodal hubs. [edit] Advantages of inland location Handling cargo containers at inland facilities (where land and storage space may also be cheaper) can cut the time container ships spend in port and speed the flow of containers between ships and the land transportation system of trucks and trains. The idea is to move the time-consuming sorting and processing of containers inland, away from congested seaports. When a ship is delayed in port, it's not making money. An inland port could also speed the flow of cargo between ships and major land transportation networks, which would carry goods to the rest of the country. ++++++++++++++++++ |
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ow11 (m)
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One good thing about a public forum is that it gives one ample time and space to show the world how stupid one can get.
Short of going into a lecture here the content below is from the link someone posted as I noticed you shamelessly avoided the issue when facts made nonsense of your position based on warped sense of reasoning.
A mad man spewing fuckery! Read my post again! then respond sensibly |
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Afam (m)
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A mad man spewing fuckery! Read my post again! then respond sensibly
According to NINETOFIVE That is the irony, when it gets to proper reasoning, people starts to see ghosts.Man, it seems that you are already seeing ghosts. I no fit break de matter down pass this one as I don't understand greek or latin. |
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Afam (m)
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Tribal issue just like a magnet has attracted laudate who hates anything Igbo but not bold enough to put it down, only supporting those that have negative things to say about Igbos.
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laudate
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Tribal issue just like a magnet has attracted laudate who hates anything Igbo but not bold enough to put it down, only supporting those that have negative things to say about Igbos.
What do you mean by "tribal issue just like a magnet has attracted laudate who hates anything Igbo but not bold enough to put it down??" Since when has it become an offence to visit a thread that deals with tribal issues? If it was wrong to do so, then tell me what are you doing on this thread? And who is 'not bold enough' to put what down? If I have anything to say, I'll say it without caring whose ox is gored. So what exactly is your problem?  Why don't you direct your attention to the person who has been making all the comments up there? I thought your 'elders' council' had a meeting the other day, asking you to ignore Laudate. So why are you now belly-aching again?  Am I owing you? *Hiss* And finally, please provide conclusive proof to support your sordid, illogical allegation that "Laudate hates anything Igbo," to use your own words, instead of searching for flimsy excuses to take potshots at me. |
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Afam (m)
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I thought your 'elders' council' had a meeting the other day, asking you to ignore Laudate. So why are you now belly-aching again? Am I owing you? *Hiss* Seems you don't sleep well these days. What's with elder's council and asking me to ignore you? I don't take instructions from people on this forum so focus your energy on the right person abeg. And finally, please provide conclusive proof to support your sordid, illogical allegation that "Laudate hates anything Igbo," to use your own words, instead of searching for flimsy excuses to take potshots at me.
Just like an armed robber asking police to provide proof that he was actually in the act when he was arrested. |
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laudate
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Seems you don't sleep well these days. What's with elder's council and asking me to ignore you? I don't take instructions from people on this forum so focus your energy on the right person abeg.
Oh dear. . . .you mean you missed out on that thread? Let me find the link! http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-72296.0.htmlJust like an armed robber asking police to provide proof that he was actually in the act when he was arrested.
This analogy doesn't fit in here. It simply shows you know very little about the law. Armed robbers are not just arrested by the police without any evidence. Anyone arrested on mere suspicion, has the liberty to file a lawsuit for wrongful detention. So stop misjiving. The question is a simple one. Provide proof, not unfounded, empty allegations, and stop beating about the bush!! Where is the evidence of hatred in my posts? Or did you pluck it out of thin air? |
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davidylan (m)
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Every where Afam just dey fight. This guy must be an agbero in real life. |
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Kobojunkie
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lmao !!!!! :d ;d :d ;d :d ;d
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Afam (m)
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You are correct even though the thread had to do with your group, not just you alone. Will never waste my time on you as a person. This analogy doesn't fit in here. It simply shows you know very little about the law. Armed robbers are not just arrested by the police without any evidence. Anyone arrested on mere suspicion, has the liberty to file a lawsuit for wrongful detention. So stop misjiving. The question is a simple one. Provide proof, not unfounded, empty allegations, and stop beating about the bush!! Where is the evidence of hatred in my posts? Or did you pluck it out of thin air?
Do you know the meaning of evidence? An armed robber in a police station can claim to be walking by when the police arrested him even if he was caught in the act. People agree to crimes mainly due to fear not the ability of the police to provide evidence. Still looking for evidence of hatred in your posts? Keep looking, maybe you will find it, maybe you will not, who knows? @davidylan, It is better to fight than to tell lies. So, it will pay you today if you start fighting and forget about lying. You can allow Kobojunkie to add your lies to his own so that his arsenal will be fully stocked. |
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