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babymine (f)
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mikun (f)
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As someone must have mentioned , submission only applies to you if you are a child of God and want to do His will.
Submission does not come naturally to anyone- (at least not to me, it took me almost a year to back down), believe me it is hard and I have only been married for 5 years. You might need God's help to be able to do this at least I did.
You need to always remember that you are not doing it for anyone but for God.
You also need a Godly husband that will not take advantage of this.
Ladies if you are married to a man who really loves you and you trust, you will not have any problems being submissive.
It is not that the man will be making all the decisions and not value your opinions, but he makes the final decision.
If you are so certain that your man is about to make a bad decision and he is not prepared to listen then get on your knees and pray, the Lord can change his mind or turn things around. You don't get anything by nagging, controlling etc
That is why ladies you need to be very wise in choosing who you get married to .
The Lord will help us all
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TV01 (m)
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Faith & experience talking!
We want to weds would do well to take heed.
Thanks Sister Mikun.
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gidig (m)
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This topic of women submitting as unto the Lord an men loving their wives as Christ love the Church will be sincerely misuderstood if you do not unerstand the concepts of rights and resposibility.When the instruction was given to the women to submit, it was their responsibilty to do so and it has nothing to do with how their husbands treated them.Similarly, a man must love his wife irrespective of her submission because that is the instruction given to him.
What creates the crisis(for those looking for excuses is that they deman the right from their spouse for him/her to obey the word of God when they should be focused on their obeying the instruction given to them as either husbans or wife. If you look closely, the men don't have it easy o! To love their wife as Christ love the church.To really understand that kind of love,imagine you are (for real) the Jesus Character in the Passion of the Christ.Yes o! That kin of Love!!!
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Up Nigeria
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I personaly believe the context of all the biblical "submission" meaning has been lost in translation. I believe it , that this "submission" refers to giving the man the benefit of the thought when both parties differ, especially in enviroments where might is required to "keep safer" . this becomes clear when you realise that in those time it was more of a "mans world" bothe physically and to an extent spiritually.
When Paul made his statement aboutwife submiting to the hus band sex, was most likely only 1% of it. We have to see beyound the bed to grasp the whole meaning of this thing. Remember that as times change so does translation of the bible. Though I am an active Christian, I must say that it is limiting to look at this whole issue from the biblical point only, ANY WAY NA SAMLL CORRECTION I DE GIVE I NO MEAN TO STROKE ANY GUY, SO, JUST READ MY GIST AND HOPEFULLY "DIG MY MEANING, UP NIGERIA
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my2cents (m)
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Up Nigeria (and others), This may be opening a totally new can of worms, but I don't agree with your (paraphrasing) "since times have changed, so has the bible". I don't have the quote, but I am sure someone can support me when I say that (again, paraphrasing), though heaven and earth may pass, the word of God will not. Whether or not we agree on the "submission" thing, we should all be wary of being guilty of what the bible says in revelation about (yes, a paraphrase, once more  ) not adding/subtracting from the bible. In particular, we shouldn't just pick one passage and stick with it, we have to consider the context and compare to other passages and then make a connection. , and thatz my 2 cents |
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dakmanzero (m)
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please o
this is a forum full of Nigerians o
no child support in Naija. If u kill ya wife na u own am
to be bringing up 'submissive' or 'not submissive' grammar here will just cause problems
we don't need those cans of worms open o! naija wives have enough wahala as it is.
I have friends who are afraid to marry because of the state of mind of d Naija man. Just today i recieved an email about rampant spousal abuse among nigerians in diaspora.
If i was a woman i would not marry a naija man ooooooo. D risk is 2 great. submissive? i don't know what that means!!!
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my2cents (m)
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dakmanzero, now u r just straight stereotyping. Tell your friend, that what matters is not whether or not the man is naija, but that the man is a good man, period. There are abusive men all over the world. Other cultures are races have submissive wives, they just don't use the word submissive I blv as has been stated in earlier threads on this topic, submissive doesn't mean slavery or bondage. A woman should be allowed to say her piece and contribute, but in the end, the man should make the final call. There is a difference b/w a man who does this and a man who doesn't let his wife speak at all. Also, submissive doesn't mean that if the husband comes back from work at midnight that the wife should be up and ready to make the man his dinner. Geez, if you think this way, what do you have to say about 1 Corinthians 14:34-35, which states that a woman needs to be silent in the presence of men? You are treading on very turbulent waters, my friend. No shoot the messenger o! Na Paul write am, no be me |
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dearzi (f)
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One of the major problems we have in the home is that both parties--men and women, don't OBEY instructions, Christ said men should love their wives as He loves the church (Eph 5:25), and women don't submit to their husbands (Eph 5:22-24). I think in this generation we're so happy to veer off from the truth and begin to believe this new age nonsense of women libration! we've never been slaves, so what are we being librated from??? i know women in ministry, who are mums, wives and career women, and are submissive to their husbands--believe me their homes are pure bliss, but the homes where the women are shouting liberation--na so so wahala! men become insecure, hence they begin to look outside, women become too focused on their own identity, breeding young women just like them. We have men who become married to their careers in the name of making a living, if both parties would stick to biblical principles the divorce rates won't be this high. It's really important who one marries, that's why i don't encourage people to run off and marry anybody, you have to have one mind (Amos 3:3), with one mind submission and love won't be an issue. I'm a young woman, soon to be married, and i already have a mindset where submission won't be a problem because that's what God wants from me, we as Christians submit to God out of love not out of fear, so we need to apply that principle to our men also. I think why our generation finds submission hard is because they're buying into much of the new age realities, not like it's not good, but let God's word be true and everything else a lie. We, as women, need to know what God has placed in us and use it, not just using our phyiscal attributes as some are in the practise of. But when you know who you are as a woman--the only position that's similar to the Holy Spirit (called along side a man) you'll know that the man's habits won't be an issue, especially when you know how to get on your knees, men are not always right, that's where we come in--to take the issue to God in prayer, mind you, your husband has to be likeminded, if not more work for you!
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LadyB (f)
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hi all. nice to see peoples thoughts on this topic. as the saying goes- u can never stop learning . is either u obey the word or u don't . simple really- wives summit to your husband.
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